diff --git a/book/2005-10.txt b/book/2005-10.txt index 9b63f4e..a3792ce 100644 --- a/book/2005-10.txt +++ b/book/2005-10.txt @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ Your comments on this design would be most welcome. \start To: list -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 12:25:42 -0700 Subject: Master Thesis Subject @@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ the time to check) \start From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Master Thesis Subject Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:52:12 -0400 @@ -6201,7 +6201,7 @@ Martin Rubey writes: \start From: Martin Rubey Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:18:44 +0200 -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Master Thesis Subject Dear Antoine, @@ -18996,7 +18996,7 @@ Received: by 10.48.157.17 with SMTP id f17mr118291nfe; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.4 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:43:32 +0200 -From: David MENTRE +From: David MENTRE David Mentre To: Bill Page Subject: Re: debugging information Cc: list diff --git a/book/2006-02.txt b/book/2006-02.txt index b8740b1..c980312 100644 --- a/book/2006-02.txt +++ b/book/2006-02.txt @@ -1,31 +1,9 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4El4-0008Es-C0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:58:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4EgI-0007LS-CA - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:53:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4EfJ-0007Ar-Q8 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:53:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4EYY-0005o6-7Q - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:45:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4EXB-0001nE-IR - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:44:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k119gjuv019189; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 03:42:45 -0600 +Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:42:45 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:42:45 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- Adding two square matrices of different dimension should result in an error. Axiom returns something that looks more like a tensor product. The implementation of + for SquareMatrix is inherited from Matrix (src/algebra/matrix.spad.pamphlet). Matrix inherits + from the default implementation in MatrixCategory (src/algebra/matcat.spad.pamphlet). @@ -53,89 +31,12 @@ a3: S(3) := 1 a2 + a3 \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060201034241-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4F9N-0003KZ-MT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 05:23:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4F5J-0002hU-W4 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 05:19:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Eja-0007wn-UQ - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:57:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4Edz-0006rE-F8 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:51:20 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4Ecc-0002WB-Pr - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:49:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k119mPuv019741; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 03:48:25 -0600 -From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:48:25 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- - -??changed: --There it says -There it says: -
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For example: @@ -143,165 +44,50 @@ substituted into the final result. For example: eq:=-cos(12*x)+x^2+x^2 zerosOf(eq,x) \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput#msg20060201111947-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OFT-0004Im-Ra - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:06:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OFR-0004Ht-Qu - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:06:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OFN-0004Fz-Jd - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4O2E-0008Kw-CW - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:53:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4O0w-0002N7-5j - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:51:38 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k11Jnluv002675; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:49:47 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:49:47 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:49:47 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor/diff --- Juan Gea Rosat --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor#msg20060201134946-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OR8-0000cE-9i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:18:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4NUT-000096-9q - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:18:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4LaH-0008SV-01 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:15:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4HW8-0001nu-OL - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:55:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4HUn-0001rN-5r - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:54:01 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k11CqAuv005972; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 06:52:10 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:52:10 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:52:10 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- - -++added: \begin{axiom} )set message bottomup on \end{axiom} - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060201065210-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OZI-0003mn-Kk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OZC-0003kP-Uf - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OZ8-0003jK-5E - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:26:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4HXn-0001p8-Od - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:57:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4HWS-00021t-1j - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:55:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k11Cruuv006158; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 06:53:56 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:53:56 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:53:56 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] Axiom interpret - trys really hard +Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] Axiom interpret trys really hard -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- -It seems the Axiom interpreter is trying really hard to -figure out what you might mean by this sum! The 'bottomup' -output shows the "mode selection" that it eventually arrives -at. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060201065355-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Ocy-0005FA-3f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:30:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Oaf-0004QV-09 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:28:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OPk-0008Od-08 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:17:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4NMt-000784-Jf - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:10:15 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.189] (helo=web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4NLZ-0005Cl-B4 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:08:54 -0500 -Received: (qmail 40369 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2006 19:05:07 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=yb1GnE+S8k677iKr5DBl1UhpqkYCqUmMFZiby1scH6CdPWlGUxxcgw9jTgdT9YJk14ASzNavwUW8QO+9/0dKGirFfsL/6BqCyMqgawM02wZNsDB/PCXPFPB2AL5SrOvJchNs5giQ5mMULuELB1nGmlWcX5tSkaq1O7RPhGW3Ias= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:05:07 PST +It seems the Axiom interpreter is trying really hard to figure out +what you might mean by this sum! The 'bottomup' output shows the "mode +selection" that it eventually arrives at. + +\start Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -To: list, robert.dodier@gmail.com -Cc: -Subject: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and conditional - expressions in Axiom +To: Robert Dodier +Subject: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and conditional expressions in Axiom Got this email from Robert Dodier, who is currently behind the wheel on the Maxima project. I don't know much about conditional stuff in Axiom, so with his permission I'm passing it on to the list. (Remember to CC Robert since he's not on this list.) -Cheers, -CY - ---- Robert Dodier wrote: +--- Robert Dodier wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:29:24 -0700 -> From: Robert Dodier +> From: Robert Dodier > To: Cliff Yapp > Subject: unevaluated boolean and conditional expressions in Axiom > @@ -332,90 +118,21 @@ CY > what > other packages do. If you have some links or references to the Axiom > documentation that would be very helpful. -> -> All the best, -> Robert Dodier -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4OvA-0005jg-8G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:49:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Ov6-0005hg-QE - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:49:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Ov4-0005gY-O0 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:49:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4Loe-00031o-G0 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:30:48 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4LnK-0001xg-Nk - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:29:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k11HRXuv011992; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:27:33 -0600 +Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:27:33 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:27:33 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#262 Local variables in output] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput/diff --- - -??changed: --eq:=-cos(12*x)+x^2+x^2 eq:=-cos(12*x)+x^2+x^3 --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput#msg20060201112733-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4SCQ-0001fN-FJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:19:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4SCM-0001dI-11 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:19:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4SCI-0001bt-Ef - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:19:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4SCH-0001bj-Qx - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:19:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4SAz-0005kg-CG - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:18:19 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DA92F6C221 - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:16:19 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9159A6C1EF - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:16:13 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and - conditionalexpressions in Axiom +\start Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:15:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and - conditionalexpressions in Axiom -Thread-Index: AcYngCCctadaf0pHRmyM68S8hbnosQADPexQ From: Bill Page -To: "C Y" Cliff Yapp -Cc: list, robert.dodier@gmail.com +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and conditionalexpressions in Axiom +Cc: Robert Dodier Robert, @@ -431,91 +148,53 @@ to correct this omission... Please feel free to experiment at the above web site and to post questions and commments if you like. -Regards, -Bill Page.=20 - > -----Original Message----- -> From:=20 -> axiom-developer On Behalf Of C Y -> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:05 PM -> To: list; robert.dodier@gmail.com -> Subject: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and=20 -> conditionalexpressions in Axiom ->=20 -> Got this email from Robert Dodier, who is currently behind=20 +> From: +> +> Got this email from Robert Dodier, who is currently behind > the wheel on the Maxima project. I don't know much about > conditional stuff in Axiom, so with his permission I'm passing > it on to the list. (Remember to CC Robert since he's not on > this list.) ->=20 -> Cheers, -> CY ->=20 -> --- Robert Dodier wrote: ->=20 +> +> --- Robert Dodier wrote: +> > > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:29:24 -0700 -> > From: Robert Dodier +> > From: Robert Dodier > > To: Cliff Yapp > > Subject: unevaluated boolean and conditional expressions in Axiom -> >=20 +> > > > Hi Cliff, -> >=20 +> > > > I wonder if you can answer this question for me. -> >=20 +> > > > How does Axiom handle boolean expressions which don't evaluate to > > true or false? > > Likewise, what happens to if -- then -- else when the condition > > is a boolean expression which doesn't evaluate to true or false. -> >=20 +> > > > Here are some examples. I'll try to use a "package agnostic" > > notation. -> >=20 -> > Let A =3D 100. What does "(A > 0) and (B > A) or (C > A)" evaluate = +> > +> > Let A = 100. What does "(A > 0) and (B > A) or (C > A)" evaluate = to? > > Maybe "(B > 100) or (C > 100)" ? Something else? -> >=20 -> > Let X =3D 100. What does "if (X !=3D 0) then (if (Y !=3D 0) then X/Y = +> > +> > Let X = 100. What does "if (X != 0) then (if (Y != 0) then X/Y = else > > Y/X) > > else FOO" evaluate to? -> > Maybe "if (Y !=3D 0) then 100/Y else Y/100" ? Something else? -> >=20 +> > Maybe "if (Y != 0) then 100/Y else Y/100" ? Something else? +> > > > I'm working on beefing up Maxima's handling of boolean and > > conditional expressions, and just for a point of reference I'm > > taking a look at what other packages do. If you have some links > > or references to the Axiom documentation that would be very helpful. -> >=20 -> > All the best, -> > Robert Dodier -> >=20 ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Tli-0002aq-NU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:00:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Tlf-0002Zd-RS - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:00:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Tlc-0002YJ-A6 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:00:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4Tlb-0002Xx-Lz - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:00:11 -0500 -Received: from [68.168.78.199] (helo=mta9.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4TkM-00028H-C3 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:58:54 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta9.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060202015549.QFS14388.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:55:49 -0500 + +\start Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:55:44 -0500 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: Solve()? Hello, @@ -523,41 +202,11 @@ Hello, Is anybody maintaining solve()? I think there might be a shortcoming in the implementation; maybe not. Short script available. -Ray - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UBW-0004kn-Um - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:26:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UBU-0004j9-U7 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:26:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UBR-0004iH-Un - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:26:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4UBR-0004iD-QB - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4UAC-0006DO-Md - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:25:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E78316C529 - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:23:40 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A3A426C51B - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:23:37 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Solve()? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:22:56 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Solve()? -Thread-Index: AcYnnnlyd/Sr8YBnTxyRT3KmElDS0AAACKtg From: Bill Page To: Raymond Rogers -Cc: Axiom-Developer +Subject: RE: Solve()? Ray, @@ -576,111 +225,37 @@ the page. On the page enter \begin{axiom} your script here -\end{axiom}=20 +\end{axiom} Then we can discuss it. Thanks. -Regards, -Bill Page. - > -----Original Message----- -> From: Raymond E. Rogers -> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:56 PM -> To: Axiom-Developer -> Subject: Solve()? ->=20 +> > Hello, ->=20 -> Is anybody maintaining solve()? I think there might be a=20 +> +> Is anybody maintaining solve()? I think there might be a > shortcoming in the implementation; maybe not. Short script > available. ->=20 -> Ray ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UFg-0001yr-Uo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:31:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UFf-0001yb-NU - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:31:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4UFe-0001yP-7l - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:31:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4UFe-0001yM-46 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:31:14 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4UEP-00074n-49 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:29:57 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k122Rxxq026667; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:27:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (dynamic-acs-72-23-22-90.zoominternet.net - [72.23.22.90]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11337F40D; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:27:59 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k123Gam02559; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:16:36 -0500 + +\start Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:16:36 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: Solve()? -Cc: list there are no people with special assigned areas. we welcome all input to all areas that might need work. what problem did you encounter? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Uit-0005rR-W3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:01:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Uir-0005rD-Qf - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4Uip-0005qw-Ah - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4Uip-0005qt-89 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:01:23 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4Uha-0002WJ-EU - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:00:06 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 35E386C5D3 - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:58:10 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC5486C5D2 - for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:58:08 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: FW: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and - conditionalexpressions in Axiom Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:57:48 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and - conditionalexpressions in Axiom -Thread-Index: AcYnozpY1TXPcDpRSs+5+aQZmOTNmgAASPxw From: Bill Page -To: "Axiom-Developer" +To: list +Subject: FW: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and conditionalexpressions in Axiom http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxBoolean -----Original Message----- -From: Robert Dodier [mailto:robert.dodier@gmail.com]=20 -Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:49 PM -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: Fwd: unevaluated boolean and -conditionalexpressions in Axiom Hi Bill, thanks for your reply. @@ -688,95 +263,12 @@ I've made a comment on the Axiom wiki to which you pointed me. I'll let you know if I come up with something workable for Maxima. -best, -Robert Dodier - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4VBp-0006bG-9f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:31:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4VBl-0006WN-Dt - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:31:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4VBj-0006Rh-L5 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:31:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4VBi-0006QV-N7 - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:31:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4VAU-0005tC-1w - for list; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:29:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k123SAuv016944; - Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:28:10 -0600 -From: MathAction (rrogers) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:28:10 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Axiom-mail] links updated after rename - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomMail/diff --- - -??changed: -- Type: List OrderedVariableList [x,y,z] - Type: List [[SandBox Shortcoming] -- Implementation of solve] [x,y,z] - -??changed: --OrderedVariableList [x,y,z], which is z < y < x. -[[SandBox Shortcoming] -- Implementation of solve] [x,y,z], which is z < y < x. - -??changed: -- > Type: List OrderedVariableList - > Type: List [[SandBox Shortcoming] -- Implementation of solve] - -??changed: -- > OrderedVariableList [x,y,z], which is z < y < x. - > [[SandBox Shortcoming] -- Implementation of solve] [x,y,z], which is z < y < x. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomMail#msg20060201212810-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4VBp-0006bv-Fz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Clearly, the same +code, when put into aaa.spad does not even compile via + 
 )co aaa
-The danger is the following (which is maybe not clearly demonstrated by the code above): -If somebody writes some prototype of a function into an .input file and later wants to transform the code into a .spad form, s/he cannot expect that the result is the same. If the code does compile the semantics is still different since for the .input part the interpreter might add some knowledge. +The danger is the following (which is maybe not clearly demonstrated +by the code above): If somebody writes some prototype of a function +into an .input file and later wants to transform the code into a .spad +form, s/he cannot expect that the result is the same. If the code does +compile the semantics is still different since for the .input part the +interpreter might add some knowledge. That problem is certainly known to people who have used Axiom extensively, but it will come as a surprise if one is relatively new to Axiom. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060202040028-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4hjp-0002cZ-VO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:55:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4hED-0001CX-PV - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:22:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4hCS-0000aT-4W - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:20:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4gmh-0003b2-Fl - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:54:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4glY-0002Kf-DG - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:53:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12Fovuv031181; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:50:57 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:50:57 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:50:57 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#262 Local variables in output] not really - temporary +Subject: [#262 Local variables in output] not really temporary -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput/diff --- These names are not really temporary: \begin{axiom} @@ -1000,119 +347,21 @@ definingPolynomial %x0 \end{axiom} (However, I think they should be...) --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput#msg20060202095056-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4gJl-0005v3-HZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:24:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4gCs-0004Qq-9z - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:17:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4fxj-0000j7-KZ - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:01:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4f3U-0003zC-VB - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:03:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1F4f2L-0007ua-7I - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:02:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4bN5-00058L-OJ - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:07:23 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12A3Luv027059; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:03:21 -0600 -From: MathAction (kratt6) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 04:03:21 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] "expected" - behaviour - the interpreter coerces 1 to the appropriate - square matrix -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- -Category: Axiom Library => Axiom Interpreter -Status: open => closed - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060202040320-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iXK-00064R-Dy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:46:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iV7-0004vB-Kq - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:44:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iTt-0004L5-Qd - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:42:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4iTs-0004KB-7V - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:42:52 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4iSj-0007mI-DQ - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:41:41 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12Hdbuv015043; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:39:37 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:39:37 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:39:37 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- - -??changed: --There seems to be a problem with Axiom's ContinuedFraction domain. There seems to be a problem with Axiom's ContinuedFractions domain. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060202113937-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iYG-0006Wt-NJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:47:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iXN-00066c-OO - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:46:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iSl-0003mH-1L - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:41:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4iNW-0001d0-US - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:36:19 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4iMO-00073W-0D - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:35:08 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12HX4uv014143; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:33:04 -0600 +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:33:04 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:33:04 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- There seems to be a problem with Axiom's ContinuedFraction domain. The type of the result is shown as 'Fraction Float' but this is nonesense. @@ -1134,113 +383,34 @@ ff1:Fraction Float ff2:Fraction Fraction Integer \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060202113301-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4ict-0000bY-6e - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:52:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4iVs-0005Jf-2M - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:44:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4gv3-00051p-7D - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:02:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4grH-0004EE-RL - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:58:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4gq8-0002sV-Nr - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:57:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12Ftguv031963; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:55:42 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:55:42 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:55:42 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#262 Local variables in output] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput/diff --- Note that the expression (3) surfaces another bug in the solver: the variable 'x' should not appear in the defining polynomial of '%x0'... Martin --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/262LocalVariablesInOutput#msg20060202095541-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4l2v-00068j-HJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:27:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4l2t-000680-DR - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:27:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4l2r-000675-Bj - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:27:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4l2q-00066y-V5 - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:27:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4l1j-0006nG-W8 - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:26:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12KNvuv015327; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:23:57 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:23:57 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:23:57 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [WesterProblemSet] document still unavailable -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet/diff --- The exact links I'm pointed to are http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/WesterProblemSet.pdf http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/WesterProblemSet.dvi and so forth --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet#msg20060202142356-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4lxl-0004Q6-Ao - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:25:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4lxi-0004Li-QP - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:25:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4lx7-0002y0-Df - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:25:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4lvS-0000HM-7t - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:23:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4luL-0004AN-Lq - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:22:25 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k12LKNuv023377; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:20:23 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:20:23 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:20:23 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [WesterProblemSet] confusion ... re: document - still unavailable. +Subject: [WesterProblemSet] confusion ... re: document still unavailable. -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet/diff --- I don't know exactly what's happening here. When I tried the links just now, they failed as you said. But I am sure that I did a 'refresh' (see bottom right corner of page) @@ -1250,55 +420,13 @@ So I did a 'refresh' again. And now they work again. Please try again. If the links don't work. Hit 'refresh' and see if that helps. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet#msg20060202152022-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4pqH-0007OB-68 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:34:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4pqF-0007O5-CN - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:34:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4pqD-0007Ns-Tq - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:34:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4pqD-0007Np-Pj - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:34:25 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4pp9-0006nL-5J - for list; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:33:19 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k131VHuv027416; - Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:31:17 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:31:17 -0600 From: MathAction (Tim Daly) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:31:17 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Summer of Code] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SummerOfCode/diff --- - ---removed: --
  • work on the tutorial volume of the book
    -- --

    Propose and get agreement on a textbook (linear algebra for dummies?) -- or an online course (linear algebra at ocw.mit.edu?) and develop a -- tutorial based on the source material using Axiom. The tutorial should -- be organized so that it demonstrates a wide variety of Axiom's abilities -- such as graphics and the ability to generate user-defined browser pages. -- Ideally it should be useful for the classroom. -- --

    The subject matter could be chosen from any computational domain, e.g. -- math, physics, chemistry, biology, etc. -- - -++added:

    Develop an automated generate-and-test program. Axiom allows you to select domains and use these to build up types. A systematic way of constructing types and elements of the types is needed. @@ -1308,162 +436,55 @@ Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SummerOfCode/diff tests in a tree so we could decide issues like coverage. The tree should be searchable for both function and domain information. - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SummerOfCode#msg20060202193117-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4wxM-0002Wn-7I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:10:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4wxD-0002Vu-E2 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:10:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4wsJ-0001ut-2c - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:05:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4wrN-0001q2-9T - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:04:10 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4wqH-0002Bq-1Y - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:02:57 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1390suv009528; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:00:54 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:00:54 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:00:54 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] Bug or feature -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- -It is true that Axioms interpreter and compiler apply (slightly) different semantics. However, it seems to me that if code compiles with spad, then it should return the same result when interpreted. +It is true that Axioms interpreter and compiler apply (slightly) +different semantics. However, it seems to me that if code compiles +with spad, then it should return the same result when interpreted. -I'm quite sure that this problem is inevitable given that we want the interpreter to guess types... +I'm quite sure that this problem is inevitable given that we want the +interpreter to guess types... Martin --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060203030051-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xXj-0006HN-P6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:47:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xWx-0005yy-4b - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:47:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xS4-0004rk-8Y - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:43:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4xPt-0004MD-FS - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:39:46 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4xOs-00053m-Fg - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:38:42 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k139ajuv012965; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:36:45 -0600 + +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:36:45 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:36:45 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Summer of Code] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SummerOfCode/diff --- - -++added: There is already software that is very close: - AldorUnit. - As an example, it is used for testing with ALLPROSE. +AldorUnit + As an example, it is used for testing with + ALLPROSE. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SummerOfCode#msg20060203033645-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xXz-0006NH-AU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:48:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xN3-0002yA-So - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:36:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xIP-0001Hf-54 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:32:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4xFK-0000fr-8F - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:28:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4xEJ-0004KY-5k - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:27:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k139Pouv012065; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:25:50 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:25:50 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:25:50 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- - -++added: - (note that there is no output...) --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060203032550-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xZQ-0006xL-R2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:49:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xL0-0002Ol-Fk - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:34:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4xHB-0000xK-Tw - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:30:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4xE4-0000Ln-6k - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:27:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4xD3-0004Ez-3O - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:26:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k139OUuv011826; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:24:30 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:24:30 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:24:30 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- -Well, this is a general problem: when a constructor takes a parameter 'R', it is often natural to return something of type 'Fraction R'. I see two possible solutions: +Well, this is a general problem: when a constructor takes a parameter +'R', it is often natural to return something of type 'Fraction R'. I +see two possible solutions: - 'Fraction R' returns 'R' when 'R' is a field -- an operation that wants to return 'Fraction R' has to check whether 'R' is a field. +- an operation that wants to return 'Fraction R' has to check whether + 'R' is a field. In the case above I see another problem: @@ -1472,154 +493,49 @@ n := nume(0.2) d := dene(0.2,x) continuedFraction(0, n, d) \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060203032430-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4y3N-0003gU-LQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:20:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4y3H-0003ev-KS - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:20:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F4y3E-0003dv-Tn - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:20:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4y3B-0003cJ-7M - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:20:21 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4y2A-0004j0-IM - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:19:18 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13AH1uv017216; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:17:01 -0600 + +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:17:01 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:17:01 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor/diff --- -It would be a great shame if Aldor were to fade into obscurity. It still has much to offer to the education and research communities, but the clock is ticking and unless it is adopted soon it will be superceded by something with similar functionality but quite possibly a weaker fundamental design. +It would be a great shame if Aldor were to fade into obscurity. It +still has much to offer to the education and research communities, but +the clock is ticking and unless it is adopted soon it will be +superceded by something with similar functionality but quite possibly +a weaker fundamental design. Tom Ashby --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor#msg20060203041700-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F51AS-00034o-GG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:40:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F50k7-0006Mj-Ul - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:12:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F50Xg-0004wK-RP - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4zoG-00038Q-NJ - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:13:06 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F4znG-0007tK-FC - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:12:02 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13C9iuv026645; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 06:09:44 -0600 + +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:09:44 -0600 From: MathAction (PeterBroadbery) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:09:44 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor/diff --- - source would help greatly, and especially under a non-restrictive licence. Peter Broadbery --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor#msg20060203060943-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F54g4-0001I1-5J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:24:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F54fx-0001F9-S6 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:24:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F54fg-00018P-KA - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:24:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F53o9-0006qR-Fn - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:29:13 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F53nB-0007x4-Kx - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:28:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13GPvuv024894; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:25:57 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:25:57 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:25:57 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - Re: Fraction R returns R when R is a field +Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] Re: Fraction R returns R when R is a field -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- This makes very good sense to me. Is Field the right type or something more general? But is this possible in Axiom? How would I modify [Fraction] to make this happen? --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060203102557-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F55gA-000649-SI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:29:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F55g6-00062P-Bj - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:29:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F53Ns-0001ET-Uq - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:02:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F53B2-0006zq-PY - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:48:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F53A4-0003Uk-Ij - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:47:48 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13FjTuv019221; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:45:29 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:45:29 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:45:29 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] Axiom interpret is - different from SPAD by design +Subject: [#261 Strange matrix addition] Axiom interpret is different from SPAD by design -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition/diff --- I agree with Martin that we should expect that (most) SPAD functions will work when written as function definitions in the Axiom interpreter but usually not the other way around. Although the distinction between @@ -1662,39 +578,13 @@ the Axiom interpreter's behaviour is more intuitive for new users. As an interim measure, it might be nice if we had a more user-friendly way to display the results of the mode matching than the obscure result of ')set output bottomup on'. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/261StrangeMatrixAddition#msg20060203094528-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F55my-00009g-Ch - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:36:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F55UJ-0001Ye-7H - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:16:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F55Bu-0002gn-GI - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:57:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F54gx-00014y-M2 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:25:52 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F53ue-0000De-23 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:35:56 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13GXZuv026210; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:33:35 -0600 + +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:33:35 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:33:35 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- Description -- Fraction takes an IntegralDomain S and produces the domain of Fractions with numerators and denominators from S. If S is also a GcdDomain, then gcd's between numerator and @@ -2023,40 +913,12 @@ Fraction(S: IntegralDomain): QuotientFieldCategory S with makeFR(map(#1::%/den1,unit(ff)),lfact) \end{spad} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060203103322-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56eS-0003mV-8f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:31:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56eI-0003iv-SG - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:31:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56eF-0003gm-7U - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:31:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F56eE-0003gh-Uy - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:31:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F56dI-0000Cb-4g - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:30:12 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13JRtuv018754; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:27:55 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:27:55 -0600 From: MathAction (rrogers) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:27:55 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] - Fedora 3 fc3 Remedy?? +Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] Fedora 3 fc3 Remedy?? -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3/diff --- Not exactly a fix, but.... Nothing worked with kernel (2.6.12-1.1381_FC3); 0 >echo ... , setarch... But a fresh compile rm, tar, worked for kernel (2.6.11-1.35_FC3) @@ -2065,81 +927,22 @@ Which gets me to what a want, a full axiom on linux. Ray (rrogers) - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3#msg20060203132754-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56wR-0003RD-Nj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:50:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56wN-0003OV-CR - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:49:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F56wK-0003Mx-Kk - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:49:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F56wK-0003Mk-7T - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:49:52 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F56vN-0002Cl-DG - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:48:53 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13Jkauv021619; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:46:36 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:46:36 -0600 From: MathAction (rrogers) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:46:36 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my - Fedora Core 3] Resolution fedora fc3 +Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my Fedora Core 3] Resolution fedora fc3 -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3/diff --- As I mentioned elsewhere Kerenl 2.6.12 ... would not build even with echo... or setarch Kernel 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 allowed a build without any fixes --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg20060203134636-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5AM2-0003Kn-Q5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:28:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5AM0-0003IH-FV - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:28:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5ALy-0003G7-Qx - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:28:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5ALy-0003FW-45 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:28:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5AL2-0004Ht-Mp - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:27:37 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k13NPHuv018502; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:25:17 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:25:17 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (MathAction) -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:25:17 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my - Fedora Core 3] [#127 Building axiom from source fails on - my Fedora Core 3] Resolution fedora fc3 +Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my Fedora Core 3] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3/diff --- Roy, Can you post the console trace of the failing axiom build @@ -2149,196 +952,58 @@ I can't imagine why there is a kernel issue except that perhaps one has SELinux enabled by default and the other does not. -Tim - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg200602040013.k140Dbp04618@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5AS8-0006tD-22 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Ray --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg20060203173141-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5DrL-0005hh-Dx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:13:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5DrJ-0005hb-TY - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:13:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5DrI-0005eZ-EP - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:13:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5DrI-0005eR-03 - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:13:08 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5DqO-0004Z2-Nj - for list; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:12:12 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1439wuv014509; - Fri, 3 Feb 2006 21:09:58 -0600 + +\start +Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:09:58 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:09:58 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#264 tangle not working in Doyen CD pamphlets] - (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/264TangleNotWorkingInDoyenCDPamphlets/diff --- Using ehe 'tangle' button in pamphlet files on the Doyen CD to retrieve a code chunk results in the message "Sorry, the requested resource does not exist." The reason for this failure is that an external Python script named 'tangle.py' is missing from the Extensions directory. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/264TangleNotWorkingInDoyenCDPamphlets#msg20060203210958-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5W1z-00010z-35 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:37:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5W1s-0000xp-DR - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:37:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5W1o-0000wj-K6 - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:37:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5W1n-0000wO-AV - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:37:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5W13-00067a-Sk - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:36:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k14MXluv002310; - Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:33:47 -0600 + +\start +Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:33:47 -0600 From: MathAction (rrogers) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:33:47 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my - Fedora Core 3] Building axiom fc3 etc... compile listings. +Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my Fedora Core 3] Building axiom fc3 etc... compile listings. -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3/diff --- Tim, You will the make outputs at http://www.plaidheron.com/ray/temp together with the batch file used to generate them. BTW: My browser crashes on some searchs, and the listing indicates some errors together with missing NAG files. Should I try to fix the errors? -Ray --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg20060204163346-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5WYG-0002E6-AI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:10:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5WBB-0004BC-2R - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:46:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5VJJ-0002Zn-S8 - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:51:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5UaG-0004ti-2n - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:04:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5MUB-0005RT-Bo - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 07:25:51 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k14CNJuv000574; - Sat, 4 Feb 2006 06:23:19 -0600 +\start +Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:23:19 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:23:19 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [WesterProblemSet] Even more confusion! -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet/diff --- When I click on any of those buttons, the same page indicating the non-existence of the document under consideration appears. But on hitting refresh, and then clicking on the button seem to work for me. What's refresh anyway? And what does tangle button, which makes it appearance on the rhs of the greyish download strip, does? --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet#msg20060204062317-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5WC8-0004Xl-TJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:47:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5W5K-00028V-ID - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:40:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5VDJ-0000ar-V8 - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:45:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5UX5-0004Z0-Jp - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:01:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5TQA-0001Lr-Sq - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 14:50:11 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k14JkBuv014926; - Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:46:11 -0600 + +\start +Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:46:11 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:46:11 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [WesterProblemSet] bug fixed -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet/diff --- I think I found what was causing the 'pdf' and related files to be deleted. It turned out that the LaTeX output generation in another part of AxiomWiki (actually part of LatexWiki - latexWrapper.py) was @@ -2349,40 +1014,13 @@ side-effect of generating the required png images, it also deleted files that it should not have. Please let me know if the problem of disappearing files happens again. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet#msg20060204134610-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5XFS-0004RN-OD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:55:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5W6H-0002U5-OU - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:41:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5Var-0008I0-BF - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:09:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5UXy-0004tD-5A - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:02:18 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5QqK-0005V4-El - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 12:05:00 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k14H2Uuv029142; - Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:02:30 -0600 + +\start +Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:02:30 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:02:30 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [WesterProblemSet] something seems remove the - files +Subject: [WesterProblemSet] something seems remove the files -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet/diff --- Must be some subtle coding error I guess, but something seems cause these files to disappear after some period of time. Right now I do not have any idea of the possible cause. @@ -2405,34 +1043,8 @@ pamphlet file does not contain any separately identified code chunks (but it should!). For more information about pamphlet files see [Literate Programming]. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WesterProblemSet#msg20060204110228-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5Yzw-0003yi-Nw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:47:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5Yzp-0003rL-Po - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:47:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5Yzi-0003kN-Tg - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:47:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5YzR-0003do-Ce - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:46:57 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.187] (helo=web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5Yyj-0002AA-Mj - for list; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:46:13 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24624 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2006 01:43:35 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=YFUtVWrSCu9jUzn8c04Usc/LXgMTBpK7W+cBI5XHRolp214xA4oumlYHcRjYvzyr4usAZ5y5+hlHjyGGeoZO4foFoH3d5D12fiLQzGhge+I2BchG2KziwBtbsxawSpd7gOD/i8gTc+7p3Us/RilcnJoVkezPgnVlyUW9qpBRDnU= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:43:35 PST + +\start Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 17:43:35 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -2470,85 +1082,20 @@ PANIC: arch_get_patch: tar exitted with non-0 status I'm trying the hard way - getting base-0, doing get-changeset on the sets, and applying them. Maybe that will provide more insight. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5cJD-0001jF-OE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:19:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5cJA-0001ie-A7 - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:19:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5cJ7-0001i4-US - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:19:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5cJ6-0001hR-PA - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:19:29 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F5cIQ-000176-Oo - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:18:46 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k155GJuv015950; - Sat, 4 Feb 2006 23:16:19 -0600 +\start +Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:16:19 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (MathAction) -Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:16:19 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my - Fedora Core 3] [#127 Building axiom from source fails on - my Fedora Core 3] Building axiom fc3 etc... compile listings. +Subject: [#127 Building axiom from source fails on my Fedora Core 3] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3/diff --- Ray, If you can find the cause of the hyperdoc crashes that would be most useful. -Tim - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg200602050604.k1564Vp05245@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dBZ-0000Wh-Ao - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:15:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dBW-0000WD-3q - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:15:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dBT-0000Uv-F0 - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:15:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5dBS-0000UT-Vw - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:15:39 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.205] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5dAn-000462-EL - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:14:57 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s6so629059wxc - for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=QRYqRy/yeNbJHnHWBuvrNuEO7CH68FMPK7fm4czCngTChbKJw+ELVW+uZU1OoEjZpBfnyC8rwOfwOxfkjdnl2xEwADaZxJen5CuzBomJanFern0ni1N5VabqwGNEGBCKjQTJlXpmHRyHPILWHTpqtdCpj/E9jrKeHyNV0gyGsc4= -Received: by 10.70.15.3 with SMTP id 3mr4153892wxo; - Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.132.2 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:12:16 -0800 -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Preferred SCM @@ -2560,39 +1107,9 @@ management for developing axiom ? Darcs, TLA, CVS ? All the above ? -Thanks, - -Antoine Hersen -societylab.net - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dZZ-0002hm-R5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:40:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dZY-0002hH-0C - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:40:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dZU-0002gR-VP - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:40:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5dZU-0002g7-4U - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:40:28 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.205] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5dYo-0005CF-Oo - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:39:46 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s6so630030wxc - for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:37:06 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=du+nh3FWMjeoYz32CvKao+llpb4mNGfdheZscdc6tLR4l1lvGZJsHnr/akS+UkiR4gUl1EUN414a8G+uV2a0iVdBvFuTz5W/urp42+gFyiqyASumd4q5nY+7LNUqXYp41Fz1Q1chi0IfHNWVQ5bk4dQkuFbCw6c935MbIobVPTk= -Received: by 10.70.82.12 with SMTP id f12mr158205wxb; - Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:37:06 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.132.2 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:37:06 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:37:06 -0800 -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Documentation @@ -2613,44 +1130,11 @@ I found one in src/interp vol5 Is src/doc/ComputerTutorial.pamphlet suppose to be one of the volume ? It is not mentioned in the Makefile. -Thanks, -Antoine Hersen -societylab.net - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dpi-0007nL-RQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:57:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dph-0007n7-Tx - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:57:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5dpg-0007mv-6G - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:57:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5dpf-0007ms-Ut - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:57:12 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5dp0-00061h-Lp - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 01:56:30 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k156riBB029382; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 01:53:45 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (dynamic-acs-72-23-22-90.zoominternet.net - [72.23.22.90]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6D880062; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 01:33:02 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k157LZq05264; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:21:35 -0500 +\start Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:21:35 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (message from Antoine Hersen on Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:12:16 -0800) +From: Tim Daly +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Preferred SCM -Cc: list The primary sources are maintained under arch due to the availability of "changesets". @@ -2676,42 +1160,11 @@ Generally the axiom sources are posted in arch, savannah, and sourceforge within 24 hours of each other so they should be identical. Thus you can use either arch or cvs. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5f6Y-0007f3-L8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:18:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5f6X-0007cE-5y - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:18:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5f6V-0007a6-Fa - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:18:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5f6V-0007Zw-Cz - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:18:39 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5f5q-0001uL-LM - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:17:58 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k158FDMZ015678; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 03:15:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (dynamic-acs-72-23-22-90.zoominternet.net - [72.23.22.90]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693CF81FEF; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:20:27 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1588xQ05285; - Sun, 5 Feb 2006 03:08:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 03:08:59 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (message from Antoine Hersen on Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:37:06 -0800) +From: Tim Daly +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Documentation -Cc: list The other volumes are still being written or are in the proposal stages. @@ -2720,157 +1173,61 @@ Do and you can see volumes 1-4 (the volume 1 up there has been rewritten so the volume 1 is out of date). -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5oM3-0006kG-Si - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:11:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5oM2-0006jw-WF - for list; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:11:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F5oM1-0006jZ-11 - for list; 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and confuse the issue. + +BTW: you have several old libdb.text floating around that don't get +undated; and confuse the issue. + int/algebra has the right time stamp -Strangness: after I did the copy, browse barfed on the libdb.text lines having dInteger + +Strangness: after I did the copy, browse barfed on the libdb.text +lines having dInteger + For instance Brose-> Integer->Documentation -Looking around I did cut and pastes for those lines (which is how I reached the conclusion) + +Looking around I did cut and pastes for those lines (which is how I +reached the conclusion) + Upon pasting the lines back they seemed to work?? ---- + and of course there is another problem... + Sometimes hyperdoc (?) complains and dies "NIL is not of type STREAM." -For instance: Browse -> Integer -> Operations -Ah well, I looked through the FAQ but found nothing. Perhaps I will poke around some more. - +For instance: Browse -> Integer -> Operations --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedoraCore3#msg20060205134954-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F63Vo-0007Cq-Em - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:22:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F63Vm-0007Cj-0K - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:22:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F63Vk-0007CW-TG - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:22:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F63Vk-0007CS-Ki - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:22:20 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.192] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F63VH-0002rW-JU - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:21:51 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s6so761664wxc - for ; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 02:18:54 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=giPqhvo1tqsMJ2jFg2YQ505+mYw813urzSTkprE04wvpV8bzjck37Coc6By6u4xcg31usovkYXuhuSa9BiTKQbZP6R5bTpGBUoqeLMFPXWneL5kP9X8S8NlgM5x/7TZFBKwNKBPFCLG/769Y6s4h8hHj7ZM02azXPitjG4O88lI= -Received: by 10.70.45.14 with SMTP id s14mr5663102wxs; - Mon, 06 Feb 2006 02:18:54 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.132.2 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 02:18:54 -0800 (PST) +Ah well, I looked through the FAQ but found nothing. Perhaps I will +poke around some more. + +\start Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 02:18:54 -0800 -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Impression Axiom book vol 1 @@ -2897,8 +1254,7 @@ of a good laser printer General remark : Chapter 3 should be spitted right after ( somewhere ). -It will be nice if the loop chapter had sub chapter that show in the indexe= -s. +It will be nice if the loop chapter had sub chapter that show in the indexes. Having more of those boxy resume stuff will be very nice especially for use as reference later. @@ -2959,15 +1315,15 @@ Again for comments similar to 3.2.9 p72 ch 3.7.2 It is not clearly indicated that the value of a block if not escaped -by =3D> is the last expression of the block. -a:=3D (a:=3D3,b:=3D5;a*b) +by => is the last expression of the block. +a:= (a:=3,b:=5;a*b) p79 ch 3.7.4 In the last example if h > 3.1 then =091.0 else -=09Z:=3D cos(h) +=09Z:= cos(h) =09max(X,05) I suppose that the it should be max(Z,0.5), @@ -2977,7 +1333,7 @@ p84 ch 3.7.5 in the example program for while loop involving matrix the "-- Don't look any further" comment should be for the previous expressi= on -because the meaning of "break" is clear but by setting "r:=3D lastrow" +because the meaning of "break" is clear but by setting "r:= lastrow" we do prevent the loop to look any further and it is less obvious. p86 ch 3.7.5 @@ -3001,15 +1357,15 @@ the function howMany increase the result found in the table, I thing it will be more elegant if it only returned the current value and for the loop to do the increasing -howMany(k) =3D=3D (n:=3Dsearch(k,t), n case "failed" =3D> 0; n) +howMany(k) == (n:=search(k,t), n case "failed" => 0; n) -for p in prime(2,10000) repeat (m:=3D p rem 5; t.m :=3D 1 + howMany(m)); t +for p in prime(2,10000) repeat (m:= p rem 5; t.m := 1 + howMany(m)); t p103 ch 3.9 at the very end on the example for union -=09dog:=3D 21 +=09dog:= 21 should be added to -=09dog:=3D"Whisper" +=09dog:="Whisper" as an example of union p114 ch 3.13 @@ -3063,87 +1419,32 @@ problems to solve and not so much experience with CAS got the book he might be. ( The 30 Year Horizon subtitle is great when you have some CAS history background and co, but for newbie it can be very scary, do it mean I -need 30 years to be able to correctly use it, do it mean it will work=20 +need 30 years to be able to correctly use it, do it mean it will work correctly in 30 years ? ) - Sure critic is easy, Thanks a lot for publishing the book, very nice and usefull work. -Antoine Hersen - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F64wB-0002LB-Td - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:53:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F64w6-0002KQ-3D - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:53:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F64w3-0002Jx-Hs - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:53:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F64pg-0000zL-Rq - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:47:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F64pE-0001Oi-JQ - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:46:32 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16BhNuv029833; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 05:43:30 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:43:23 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] ... -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor/diff --- Aldor is a great language. -Making the sources of the compiler available would greatly help in order to attract more developers and to make the compiler more robust. + +Making the sources of the compiler available would greatly help in +order to attract more developers and to make the compiler more robust. 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Given enough input you could end up with your name on the book. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65Jh-0004a7-Bv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:18:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65Jd-0004Y3-6q - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:17:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65JZ-0004Wi-Ih - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F65JX-0004W8-DV - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:17:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F65J5-0003yB-Bo - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:17:23 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16CEOuv032696; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 06:14:24 -0600 +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:14:24 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:14:24 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- - -++added: Maybe this text should go into another place (where?), but the above code shows some danger. It says (look at the representation): @@ -3233,11 +1506,13 @@ then I suspect the code of Fraction will not work anymore. The implementation of LocalAlgebra is fine, since it does not introduce a Rep, but in Fraction there should also be no appearance of Rep. -The implementation of Fraction should completely do without Rep (information hiding) -since it should not know about the concrete representation of elements in the domain -LocalAlgebra. +The implementation of Fraction should completely do without Rep +(information hiding) since it should not know about the concrete +representation of elements in the domain LocalAlgebra. + +In fact, the Category for Localize(M, R, S) is not rich enough. It +already exports two functions -In fact, the Category for Localize(M, R, S) is not rich enough. It already exports two functions \begin{spad} numer: % -> M ++ numer x returns the numerator of x. @@ -3250,38 +1525,11 @@ set!: (%, 'num', M) -> M set!: (%, 'den', S) -> S \end{spad} - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060206061424-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65cu-0004D1-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:37:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65bo-0003mo-Fo - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:36:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F65bh-0003jn-MM - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:36:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F65bg-0003jU-UP - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:36:37 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.145.176] (helo=natsluvver.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F65bE-0005fP-RE - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:36:09 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16CX56G013043; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:33:05 +0100 (MET) +\start Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:35:14 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list I hope Axiom stays with GNU arch. In particular, in the future we could more and more exploit the "multiple archives" feature and the "star-merge". @@ -3297,13 +1545,15 @@ in SVN.) In fact development could work like that: Tim is maintaining the "official" Axiom sources and only he has write access to it (but anyone can read it). -Everyone could open up his own archive, ie just branch from the latest -official (axiom--main--1) version (for example axiom--myfeature--1.0) -and develop into that archive until some feature has been completed. If -in the meantime, axiom--main--1 got another patch, it would be easy to -integrate that into axiom--myfeature--1.0. -Finally send a mail to Tim and tell him the place of the archive. Tim -(or maybe in the future any other group of reviewers) could check the + +Everyone could open up his own archive, ie just branch from the latest +official (axiom--main--1) version (for example axiom--myfeature--1.0) +and develop into that archive until some feature has been +completed. If in the meantime, axiom--main--1 got another patch, it +would be easy to integrate that into axiom--myfeature--1.0. + +Finally send a mail to Tim and tell him the place of the archive. Tim +(or maybe in the future any other group of reviewers) could check the new feature and integrate that into axiom--main--1 by just calling star-merge, see @@ -3339,126 +1589,52 @@ On 02/05/2006 08:21 AM, root wrote: > Generally the axiom sources are posted in arch, savannah, and sourceforge > within 24 hours of each other so they should be identical. Thus you can > use either arch or cvs. -> -> Tim -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F673h-0002dt-0Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:09:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F672G-0002Bd-Cv - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:08:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F66za-00015h-GO - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:05:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F66yx-0000n3-4W - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:04:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F66yV-0004Og-QC - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:04:15 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16E1Fuv012249; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:01:15 -0600 +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:01:15 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:01:15 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - Re: Fraction R returns R when R is a field +Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] Re: Fraction R returns R when R is a field -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- -Thinking about it, I realized that this is not the proper solution, since 'Fraction R' provides some operations, for example 'denominator' which 'R' does not necessarily have and I think it would be wrong to equip every 'Field' with this operation, which would then be necessary. Thus, either +Thinking about it, I realized that this is not the proper solution, +since 'Fraction R' provides some operations, for example 'denominator' +which 'R' does not necessarily have and I think it would be wrong to +equip every 'Field' with this operation, which would then be +necessary. Thus, either -- Axiom's interpreter should not complain about types like 'Fraction Float'. In this case, 'denominator' will always return '1', of course. Note that you can perfectly well calculate with objects of type 'Stream Fraction Fraction Integer', no problem occurs. Or +- Axiom's interpreter should not complain about types like 'Fraction + Float'. In this case, 'denominator' will always return '1', of + course. Note that you can perfectly well calculate with objects of + type 'Stream Fraction Fraction Integer', no problem occurs. Or - operations that want to return Fraction R have to check whether R is a field. -The code that excludes constructions like 'FRAC FRAC' and 'FRAC R' when 'R' is a field is in 'clammed.boot.pamphlet', lines 108-112. +The code that excludes constructions like 'FRAC FRAC' and 'FRAC R' +when 'R' is a field is in 'clammed.boot.pamphlet', lines 108-112. Possibly we want to allow 'Fraction Field' but disallow 'Fraction Fraction'? Martin --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060206080114-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F676j-00047B-N2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:12:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F676R-0003xd-UK - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:12:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F675o-0003fo-Eq - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:11:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F674p-00034F-GU - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:10:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F674O-0004qB-6Q - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:10:20 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16E7Kuv012860; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:07:20 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:07:20 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:07:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- -I think that you are both right with the place where you put your comment and with your comment itself. Only: I suggest that you don't use !\begin{axiom} and \end{axiom} to comment code, it get's all compiled :-) Although it looks very nice... --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060206080719-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F68y3-0002wM-HN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:11:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F68y1-0002uA-0O - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:11:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F68xy-0002rm-Br - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:11:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F68xx-0002rW-Sv - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F68xX-0000AC-GD - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:11:23 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16G8Puv029222; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:08:25 -0600 +I think that you are both right with the place where you put your +comment and with your comment itself. Only: I suggest that you don't +use !\begin{axiom} and \end{axiom} to comment code, it get's all +compiled :-) Although it looks very nice... + +\start +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:08:25 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:08:25 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - FRAC FRAC ID +Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] FRAC FRAC ID -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- -Since "add { ... }" is a value in Aldor/Axiom, [Fraction] should/could be implemented as follows: +Since "add { ... }" is a value in Aldor/Axiom, [Fraction] should/could +be implemented as follows: \begin{spad} Fraction(S: IntegralDomain): QuotientFieldCategory S with ... @@ -3470,51 +1646,24 @@ Fraction(S: IntegralDomain): QuotientFieldCategory S with ... -- old code goes here \end{spad} -Well, that means the representation of 'FRAC S' depends on whether S is already a field or not. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060206100822-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693J-0006bX-LO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693I-0006b1-EE - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693G-0006a7-23 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F693F-0006Zu-Ns - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:17 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.145.166] (helo=natnoddy.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F692p-0000sb-BF - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:16:51 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k16GDnrU002010 - for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 17:13:50 +0100 (MET) +Well, that means the representation of 'FRAC S' depends on whether S +is already a field or not. + +\start Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:15:59 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Re: [Fraction] Hello, On 02/06/2006 03:07 PM, kratt6 wrote: -> Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff -> -- > I think that you are both right with the place where you put your > comment and with your comment itself. Only: I suggest that you don't > use !\begin{axiom} and \end{axiom} to comment code, it get's all > compiled :-) Although it looks very nice... -> -- -> forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060206080719-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - Well, I won't put code into \begin{spad} ... \end{spad}, but nobody has told me how I should quote code. @@ -3526,38 +1675,12 @@ CODE GOES HERE or should I use \begin{verbatim} .. \end{verbatim} or what? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693i-0006n6-20 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693f-0006lU-5e - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F693d-0006kS-Gw - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F693c-0006jy-R6 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F693C-0000w0-J3 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:17:14 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16GEGuv030268; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:14:16 -0600 +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:14:16 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:14:16 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] using begin{spad} ... to comment code -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- I don't see any problem using !\begin{spad}...\end{spad}. I think it looks good, although as Martin says, Axiom Wiki does try to compile the code. On most browsers the compile errors will be @@ -3581,41 +1704,12 @@ HTML coding such as:: set!: (%, 'den', S) -> S - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060206101416-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69DJ-000464-6U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:27:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69DG-000438-BG - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:27:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69DD-00040p-Ee - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F69DD-00040k-7h - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:27:35 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F69Cn-0002J8-11 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:27:09 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16GOAuv031855; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:24:10 -0600 +\start +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:24:10 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:24:10 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] information hiding -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Fraction should completely do without Rep ... @@ -3627,40 +1721,13 @@ recently similar problems in the OutputForm domain. I think we need to first document these cases - as you have done here and in the actual source distribution pamphlet files - and then correct these problems. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060206102409-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69Qu-0003qI-GD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:41:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69Qs-0003pX-9q - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:41:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F69Qq-0003nw-H8 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:41:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F69Qq-0003nj-3i - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:41:40 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F69QP-0003ec-P4 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:41:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k16GcFuv002177; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:38:15 -0600 + +\start +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:38:15 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:38:15 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - static types +Subject: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] static types -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff --- Ralf, do you think you could provide some example code that does this and actually works? I remain a little sceptical. @@ -3692,47 +1759,16 @@ Or do I not understand something quite fundamental here? Perhaps what you are suggesting amounts to ensuring that, as types these two are at least functionally equivalent? --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes#msg20060206103814-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6HeE-0005Ix-F4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:28:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6HeD-0005Is-J6 - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:28:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6HeB-0005IW-QU - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:28:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6HeB-0005IS-Kk - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Hdo-000268-QO - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:27:37 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DD6C96BF3E - for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:24:30 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 225F56BF3B - for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:24:28 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [Fraction] +\start Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:24:25 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [Fraction] -Thread-Index: AcYrPaZuMiEXYgxcRBGIO1w6p3LzfwARf1nA From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: [Fraction] Ralf, On Monday, February 06, 2006 11:16 AM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Well, I won't put code into \begin{spad} ... \end{spad}, > but nobody has told me how I should quote code. @@ -3743,16 +1779,16 @@ under the Text column is an attempt to help you remember the right way to do this. Click on the word "verbatim" and it will insert the necessary text. ->=20 +> > Should I use ->=20 +> > 

     > CODE GOES HERE
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    That would be ok. ->=20 +> > or should I use \begin{verbatim} .. \end{verbatim} Although this will work, I do not recommend it. {verbatim} will @@ -3771,45 +1807,11 @@ is to use '::' like this:: Note that blank line and the indentation of the CODE. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6I5P-0005CY-D7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:56:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6I5N-0005CG-AC - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:56:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6I5J-0005C3-TT - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:56:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6I5J-0005C0-Ml - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:56:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6I4x-0004DE-AS - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:55:39 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511B840E22; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 02:52:31 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k171ss6P028726; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 02:54:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k171ssC4028725; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 02:54:54 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Feb 2006 02:54:54 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Feb 2006 02:54:54 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -3835,45 +1837,11 @@ will be a good move. For me, arch is a "curiosity", in the sense that Axiom is the only project that "requires" me ("require" is not the right term, as I also have the CVS tree right here) to use it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6IJJ-0001uS-Bh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:10:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6IJH-0001u6-9I - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:10:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6IJE-0001ts-OB - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:10:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6IJE-0001to-Kf - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:10:24 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6IIs-00058i-Db - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:10:02 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1726rYx013950; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 21:06:53 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (dynamic-acs-72-23-22-90.zoominternet.net - [72.23.22.90]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BBE7F403; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 21:06:52 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k172tMo13826; - Mon, 6 Feb 2006 21:55:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 21:55:22 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 07 Feb 2006 02:54:54 +0100) Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -3883,37 +1851,10 @@ if we grow to the size of the linux development environment we'd have to standardize on something but I suspect the archival tool would be the least of our concerns. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Jao-00058h-5b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:32:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Jal-000581-Rx - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:32:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Jaj-00055q-VT - for list; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Jaj-00055i-NK; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.48] (helo=vms048pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1F6JaO-000334-2F; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:32:12 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([141.155.143.72]) - by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IUA006IESCFCIE4@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>; Mon, - 06 Feb 2006 21:29:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:29:17 -0500 From: William Sit -To: "axiom-math@nongnu.org" -Message-id: <43E8140D.B6C5F512@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list +To: list Subject: Numerical package and GotoBLAS For any one interested in adding numerical packages to Axiom, you probably @@ -3921,47 +1862,15 @@ already know about Linpack, BLAS, and even GotoBLAS. I just came across this: http://www.utexas.edu/features/2006/goto/index.html -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6O6W-0003oj-8P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:21:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6O6U-0003nY-Lb - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:21:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6O6S-0003lq-Ty - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:21:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6O6S-0003lm-O0 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:21:36 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.194] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6O68-0005lI-ME - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:21:16 -0500 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j40so218063ugd - for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:18:06 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=JYRnRj89sXErXykL7a/Fz8kj3DPuSh50JG+6a3pae+N9kPX54PZmmtpXJWeXFaPtea/emmVx2k+mYWap3o9dBj5HXsKLKZPXphIH9KZvP1nMQQW+214yjtEdqyrqlM/3cQwaYuWYZLV5wKOsWD3v7oHdO9YazA+CGeegvsm1gio= -Received: by 10.49.10.14 with SMTP id n14mr1458339nfi; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:18:05 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 00:18:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:18:05 +0100 -From: David MENTRE +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> - - <200602070255.k172tMo13826@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Hello, -2006/2/7, root Tim Daly: +2006/2/7, Tim Daly: > I keep the savannah and sourceforge CVS sites up to date and in sync > with the arch site so there is no requirement to use arch. i suppose > if we grow to the size of the linux development environment we'd have @@ -3992,9 +1901,6 @@ It might become of topic for this list but I would be interested about real SCM experiments. I already know about Subversion (I'm using it at work, under Windows) and Arch. -Best wishes, -d. - PS for Tim: Tim, regarding synchronization of your CVS repositories with you Arch tree, you should take a look at Tailor which is designed exactly for that: @@ -4004,34 +1910,11 @@ Tailor is a tool to migrate changesets between ArX, Bazaar, Bazaar-NG, CVS, Codeville, Darcs, Git, Mercurial, Monotone, Subversion and Tla repositories. """ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhI-0007m4-VZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhG-0007lp-Ub - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhE-0007jh-8T - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6OhE-0007jW-5q - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:36 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.145.175] (helo=natblindhugh.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Ogu-00015P-Sw - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:17 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.166.46] (dyn166046.wlan.jku.at [140.78.166.46]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k178u5CU020768 - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:56:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:23:28 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev -Subject: Re: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] - static types +To: list +Subject: Re: [#263 ContinuedFraction returns incorrect types] static types On 02/06/2006 05:38 PM, Bill Page wrote: > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/263ContinuedFractionReturnsIncorrectTypes/diff @@ -4137,9 +2020,6 @@ MyInt: with {1: %} == Integer MyInt and Integer are not the same since they belong to different categories. For example, there is no addition in MyInt. -Ralf - - --------- FILE frac.as --------------------------------------- -- Compile with -- aldor -mno-mactext -fx -laldor frac.as @@ -4235,35 +2115,11 @@ main(): () == { main(); - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhM-0007nB-8y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhK-0007mX-FJ - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OhH-0007lx-O8 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6OhH-0007lu-LI - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:39 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.145.166] (helo=natnoddy.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Ogy-00015h-Cg - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:59:20 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.166.46] (dyn166046.wlan.jku.at [140.78.166.46]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k178u7EA025591; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:56:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:53:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Impression Axiom book vol 1 -Cc: list Hello, @@ -4283,50 +2139,19 @@ Compare also with the Aldor User Guide page 53: There is a concept of "Generator" in Aldor that I haven't yet found in Axiom. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Oyf-000333-5o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:17:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OyX-000314-LC - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:17:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6OyU-00030P-9j - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:17:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6Ouz-0002T1-8V - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:13:49 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Oue-0002BG-GE - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:13:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 722EE65C28 - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:10:16 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 10C1065BF2 - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:10:11 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Preferred SCM Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:10:05 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Preferred SCM -Thread-Index: AcYrvxE6by0dwt/VRS66i1mkflz2EgABSDMg From: Bill Page -To: "David MENTRE" -Cc: list +To: David Mentre +Subject: RE: Preferred SCM On Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:18 AM David Mentre wrote: > ... > For interested people, see relevant thread: -> =20 +> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.politics.organizations.demexp.devel/785 ->=20 +> > It might become of topic for this list but I would be > interested about real SCM experiments. I already know about > Subversion (I'm using it atwork, under Windows) and Arch. @@ -4347,40 +2172,11 @@ I do not know of any limitations of darcs that would prevent it from being used in the same way that tla is now used in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6PTB-0005lk-PH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:49:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6PT5-0005kk-6y - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:49:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6PT2-0005jv-AE - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:49:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6PT0-0005jX-Vn - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:48:59 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.194] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6PSi-000529-1t - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:48:40 -0500 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c2so259196ugf - for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:45:29 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=qSDb6up2vYbQdFEnLQ+20xraqkPgDXO0zc5b9yUgpIHe0tg7ChX0kZUVfOeyc9yLLX4Mhb51LqV5Gf9QHIo7pM1wyRA2c77Rrb943bIICopV1/0cEkYyU7/6BggqimgvAViYTUUuLa5G+3oedkj1KKNR7Mp9H90dokHAfnL6eRc= -Received: by 10.48.157.5 with SMTP id f5mr1479154nfe; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:45:28 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 01:45:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:45:28 +0100 -From: David MENTRE +From: David Mentre To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Preferred SCM -Cc: list Hello Bill, @@ -4418,39 +2214,12 @@ is difficult to remember and making a new branch is not that easy. Without a day to day use for two years, I would not have said that. :-) -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Paa-0007Vk-TA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6PaY-0007Ta-4Y - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6PaX-0007Sd-0o - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6PaV-0007S1-SD - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6PaD-0005fO-4M - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:56:25 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k179rSuv017539; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 03:53:28 -0600 +Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:53:28 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:53:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] attempt to modify Fraction -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- \begin{spad} )abbrev domain FRAC Fraction ++ Try to prevent Fraction from returning Fraction Fraction Integer @@ -4469,39 +2238,13 @@ Fraction(S: IntegralDomain): QuotientFieldCategory S with \end{spad} But SPAD apparently cannot compile this. :( --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060207035327-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Q4Y-0001r5-Cq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:27:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Q4P-0001nT-FV - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:27:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Q4N-0001mi-SF - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:27:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6Q4M-0001lg-Ka - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:27:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Q44-0008Va-5h - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:27:16 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k17AO3jh006593; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:24:03 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:24:03 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:24:03 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] SubsetCategory ? -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- 'SubsetCategory' seems to be a specific to SPAD. It is defined here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/CompilerBoot @@ -4527,40 +2270,12 @@ xl:=Localize(Integer,Integer,PositiveInteger) SubInt:=SubsetCategory(Monoid,Integer) \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060207042401-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SAU-0004bF-9a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:42:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6S80-0003g4-J6 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:39:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6S0p-0001rH-Og - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:32:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6S04-0001bu-5A - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:31:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6Rzm-00028g-ER - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:30:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k17CRjjh015738; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:27:45 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:27:45 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:27:45 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Fraction] A suggestion for MyFraction in Aldor - (draft) +Subject: [Fraction] A suggestion for MyFraction in Aldor (draft) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- Here is the code that demonstrates how to use conditional representations in Aldor for the domain constructor [Fraction]. I prepended the constructors by "My" in order to avoid naming conflicts with existing names in Axiom. Doing it in that way, 'MyFraction MyFraction Integer' behaves as efficiently as just 'MyFraction Integer'. @@ -4687,47 +2402,15 @@ r0: MyRational := 1 r1: MyRational1 := 1 r2: MyRational2 := 1 \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060207062741-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SOI-0004Fo-Uc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:56:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SNx-000481-Vo - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:55:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SMx-00040q-03 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:54:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6SMm-0003wj-1g - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:54:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6SMU-00045K-Js - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:54:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k17CpEjh018378; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:51:14 -0600 + +\start +Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:51:14 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:51:14 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Fraction] A suggestion for MyFraction in Aldor - (draft) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- +Subject: [Fraction] A suggestion for MyFraction in Aldor (draft) -??changed: --++ based on a suggestiong by Ralf Hammecke ++ based on a suggestion by Ralf Hemmecke -++added: - Comment from Ralf Hemmecke to the above code: How can a compiler find out which function to call if one says something like:: @@ -4745,97 +2428,25 @@ functions that end in a question mark return [Boolean]. Maybe 'zero?(x)' returns It somehow doesn't fit together, writing pamphlets and ambiguous code. Always put the type information into the code! Adding a bit of redundancy is certainly appreciated by other developers. - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060207065114-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Sfd-0007u9-7d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:14:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SXj-0006V1-Vz - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:06:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6SW2-0006Ek-U1 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:04:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6SVc-0006C2-VL - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:03:59 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6SVL-0004hC-I3 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:03:35 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k17D0Njh019589; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:00:23 -0600 +\start +Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:00:23 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:00:23 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Fraction] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction/diff --- - -??changed: --i : MyInteger := 1 --r0: MyRational := 1 --r1: MyRational1 := 1 --r2: MyRational2 := 1 i : MyInteger := 1$MyInteger )sh MyRational r0: MyRational := 1$MyRational r1: MyRational1 := 1$MyRational1 r2: MyRational2 := 1$MyRational2 --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Fraction#msg20060207070023-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6TuZ-0008KZ-2H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:33:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6TuV-0008KP-9N - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:33:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6TuS-0008K3-SA - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:33:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6TuS-0008K0-9T - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:33:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6TuB-0004ZN-Jd - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:33:19 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2474F3DA; - Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:29:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k17EWP6P031297; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:32:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k17EWPJV031296; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:32:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: David MENTRE -Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> - - <200602070255.k172tMo13826@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0602070018s58ba69dbg@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 07 Feb 2006 15:32:25 +0100 -Cc: list +To: David Mentre +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Preferred SCM -David MENTRE writes: +David MENTRE David Mentre writes: [...] @@ -4863,45 +2474,11 @@ and all that.) There is a tool to convert CVS repository to SVN, if one ever wanted to keep the CVS history around. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Tz0-0000aa-NZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:38:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Tyt-0000Za-6K - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:38:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Typ-0000Ya-GX - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:38:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6Tym-0000YK-DK - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:38:05 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.197] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6TyV-0004vZ-QX - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:37:47 -0500 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c2so377617ugf - for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:34:34 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=c0faEODuViQdcLOhEMn2rt+2XSAIZsCjW2OY/DTt4FUsOqAfHNueNZIzOEu9xezZyRSui22E1RYg8DHzCyWJlCEw8hyzuwfdMKxTYTfEQdpNiR9oV3qsISTTwSW5yMl0frIO+4vBylF445xdnk/YGsrrukGXGtmcKzoTSLxcN2A= -Received: by 10.48.157.2 with SMTP id f2mr1574348nfe; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:34:33 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:34:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:34:31 +0100 -From: David MENTRE +From: David Mentre To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> - - <200602070255.k172tMo13826@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0602070018s58ba69dbg@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -4913,92 +2490,24 @@ Gaby, Is this configuration step documented somewhere? Any pointer? -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6U7b-0001yh-Kt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:47:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6U7N-0001wv-Ni - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:46:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6U7K-0001v9-NX - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:46:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6U7I-0001ub-Oz - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:46:53 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.193] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6U72-0005XH-8h - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:46:36 -0500 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j40so373968ugd - for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:43:21 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=tLQ3io7RaFKmy//i3aHUU9d6fo5t9i03F4fwuBpL9a9GG1wK0FDUUkoJS1LHKPfoSyOfOo0ixCI/022HFRuqzGO9pPHzkfaWyEYxTuzv3Vz96O6b7NmbwiyANHeX1iHvNRIUfmixIVVUEgCX20mn1D80/DQ8s9uz4AizWBjIXs4= -Received: by 10.48.235.15 with SMTP id i15mr1581419nfh; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:43:21 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:43:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:43:21 +0100 -From: David MENTRE +From: David Mentre To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - <200602050721.k157LZq05264@localhost.localdomain> - <43E74282.3090907@hemmecke.de> - - <200602070255.k172tMo13826@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0602070018s58ba69dbg@mail.gmail.com> - - <3d13dcfc0602070634t18e3e38am@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list -2006/2/7, David MENTRE : +2006/2/7, David MENTRE David Mentre: > Is this configuration step documented somewhere? Any pointer? Oops, sorry, I found it by myself. Should have googled before asking. http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/SvnSetup (at the bottom of the page) -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Uan-00054S-D9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:17:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Uak-00054H-Fu - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:17:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Uai-00053Y-I5 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:17:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6Uah-00053R-MG - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:17:16 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.200] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6UaR-00089e-Be - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:16:59 -0500 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q2so349466uge - for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:13:44 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=FbS+fvdMVaMF5+TCB6Y4YXmIs3cflXY4AWArNBcioL2BtrLBppFUv4YtZLWNCmcnGZzyDz0Ni65AmakCoPxT0fW0Msjf1wDMT3n61l255e4RK56Zy9B3XcPC43fhZdXwAunUhS2KyGWzjUAAoi/dSljtf2o3ndKBRWYkbPtv0F8= -Received: by 10.48.49.7 with SMTP id w7mr1588731nfw; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:13:43 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.7.5 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:13:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:13:43 -0800 From: Scott Morrison To: list Subject: Re: Preferred SCM - boundary="----=_Part_13930_17761766.1139325223606" - <3d13dcfc0602070145o2e1f1de5i@mail.gmail.com> - -------=_Part_13930_17761766.1139325223606 The preferred SCM? I always thought it was me. @@ -5011,42 +2520,7 @@ source code for comments from me, you can see things like this: Ah, now that's some well documented code. -------=_Part_13930_17761766.1139325223606 - -The preferred SCM?  I always thought it was me.

    -- Scott C Morr= -ison

    P.S.  As an Axiom developer, I was always known as SCM.&nb= -sp; If you look in the source code for comments from me, you can see things= - like this:
    -
       -- The following is experimental.  SCM 10/11/90
    Ah, now that's= - some well documented code.

    - -------=_Part_13930_17761766.1139325223606-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Umg-0007BT-Sa - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6Umc-00079f-RT - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6UmY-00077K-88 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6UmW-00076w-UW - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:29 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.185] (helo=web31705.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6UmG-00014a-Mo - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 81422 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2006 15:24:24 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=VSL7TARlWqRDiuBmfPfgfwsStBlc1ubrp8AcKfxPFQVEz5dutHMjynJfCTOYvcn95C8aJxvVki8jIp2gTQmNYkp1tAbzVh9TDBzLH6X6l/uvTiRZHx/Ace14NCRoQ8PHbmnOzuH2Ms4Jd5m3w3VJcQ+ejvJ5xgpSVIOe1DOCb/Y= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31705.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:24:24 PST +\start Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -5068,56 +2542,20 @@ I wish to thank Werner Seiler for digging up this code and granting permission to use it, and apologize for not announcing this sooner - it was actually online back in late December. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6XAf-0004Pa-Jz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:02:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6XAd-0004Ov-OT - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:02:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6XAc-0004OU-U6 - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:02:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6XAc-0004OO-KA - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:02:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6XAN-0007ld-Id - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:02:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1AAC16746C - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:58:58 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 901C16745C - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:58:37 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Preferred SCM +\start Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:58:33 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Preferred SCM -Thread-Index: AcYryz69/voeYv3wShOE8qds7Bjf5gAQCc/A From: Bill Page -To: "David MENTRE" -Cc: list +To: David Mentre +Subject: RE: Preferred SCM On Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:45 AM David Mentre wrote: ->=20 +> > > > darcs: I don't like its commutable patch theory > > > 2006/2/7, Bill Page: > > > What is not to like about this theory? Could you explain? ->=20 +> > I found it seducing at first but I fear that DARCS patch > commutation would make the understanding of merge failure > difficult. @@ -5142,7 +2580,7 @@ in the same family as Axiom's SPAD and Aldor. In principle one could even implement darcs in Aldor. So for me, this is mentally a very good match. ->=20 +> > I've also read once a post from somebody who said that DARCS > failed on his big project and was not scalable. > @@ -5164,39 +2602,11 @@ is now almost a religious subject - right up there beside the old "language wars" ;) so I don't suppose that this discussion can have much impact on the Axiom project as a whole. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6YYn-0004du-U4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:31:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6YYm-0004dp-Hh - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:31:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6YYZ-0004at-Gl - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:31:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6YYW-0004ab-SO - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:31:19 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.186] (helo=web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6YbZ-00005E-DU - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:34:26 -0500 -Received: (qmail 35715 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2006 19:31:06 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=fGXn5pz40h2tHTBgIoVG3OIIpxmlK60AsUBp9MH/P+/uqGhSjHidJg+oRU/8Qdo0TXc60eCOrgw/SwTNE6XvqwBDaN6HJ6IhbnJIBB1EnOzE2JTXTw40Uhn4JJAJh//teV/0u0RII5jotE4GS6mErgkfAwfVpfV5BDNEFeAFs0A= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:31:05 PST Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page, David Mentre Subject: RE: Preferred SCM -To: Bill Page, David MENTRE -Cc: list --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -5209,47 +2619,11 @@ For what it's worth, I've notices darcs usage cropping up in the Lisp World quite a bit - a number of common-lisp.net projects use it, and CLX also uses it. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6crp-0007nk-Id - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:07:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6crn-0007n8-5F - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:07:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6crk-0007mP-Ta - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:07:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6crj-0007mA-Rc - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:07:24 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6cuu-0000B2-UL - for list; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:10:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0E16067F18 - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:07:22 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A108667F10 - for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:07:18 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: JET source code up in the Axiom portal +\start Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:07:17 -0500 -Thread-Topic: JET source code up in the Axiom portal -Thread-Index: AcYsC55FVUl/iPTASKOEI3KnJU8DdAANoZ7g From: Bill Page -To: "C Y" Cliff Yapp -Cc: list +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: JET source code up in the Axiom portal Wow! This is a **very** extensive work! There is a lot of very interesting and useful looking work here. @@ -5257,17 +2631,17 @@ interesting and useful looking work here. I have begun the process of installing this package on the Axiom Wiki. You can see some of the code here: -http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJet=20 +http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJet On Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:24 AM C Y wrote: ->=20 +> > Werner M. Seiler's JET - An AXIOM Environment for Geometric > Computations with Differential Equations - is now available under -> Modified BSD. Code only, but the paper can be read online:=20 +> Modified BSD. Code only, but the paper can be read online: -http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/cgi-bin/psview?document=3D/1997 \ -/Ettlingen/110&search=3D/1997/Ettlingen/110 +http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/cgi-bin/psview?document=/1997 \ +/Ettlingen/110&search=/1997/Ettlingen/110 I had some problems reading the pdf version of the file above. It seems to have very small top margin that cuts off some of @@ -5276,9 +2650,9 @@ on the postscript version and then convert it to a useable pdf with the ghostview 'convert' option. > Other links are also available in the axiom portal: -> http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?SearchableText=3DJET ->=20 -> The code can be downloaded from here:=20 +> http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?SearchableText=JET +> +> The code can be downloaded from here: http://portal.axiom-developer.org/Members/starseeker/Jet-June1995.tar.gz > I'm not sure if this will work without being logged in to the Axiom @@ -5303,46 +2677,22 @@ these, but got an unexpected error message. Right now I am assuming that it will be possible to compile the entire system using just the Spad code. ->=20 +> > I wish to thank Werner Seiler for digging up this code and > granting permission to use it, and apologize for not announcing > this sooner - it was actually online back in late December. ->=20 +> Thank you very much Werner Seiler! This is a marvelous contribution to the mathematical abilities of Axiom. Thanks also Cliff, for getting around to post this message. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6lKZ-00063h-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:09:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6lKW-00063Q-T6 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:09:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6lKT-000639-7W - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:09:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6lKS-000635-Tu - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6lNk-00075E-9D - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:13:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1898AEx021346; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 10:08:13 +0100 (CET) +Date: 08 Feb 2006 10:09:53 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: JET source code up in the Axiom portal -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Feb 2006 10:09:53 +0100 -Cc: list This is truly great! As far as I know JET was continued in MuPAD, so this is not a dead end! @@ -5352,34 +2702,7 @@ to put a link would be a subpage of AxiomContributions. Thank you Werner Seiler, thank you CY, thank you Bill! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6v2F-0007ed-0n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6v26-0007cY-4U - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6v20-0007Zt-Nx - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6v1z-0007ZV-4Y - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:11 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.192] (helo=web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6v5M-0001sw-Jt - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:34:40 -0500 -Received: (qmail 39614 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2006 19:30:25 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=zvzxjLh9YKuGlT1hYfJSrdKLSoQU9bEzdclexBihhZYXpCHJ5qUL70IsF9d+D3/MtTWE2tH+U4y11JGJ1xv0cUnIeTdL+ExpPCtw/V2Qd4iRkmUCcsPTXi51K4RyfBNOYd0YV8KMdcop1/2LTHd/9htdzVx6/CKSE9S90cQmhm4= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:30:24 PST Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:30:24 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -5387,47 +2710,11 @@ Subject: Aldor download? Anybody else having trouble downloading the linux version of Aldor? -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6umv-0001JO-CO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:15:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6tMj-0004en-HT - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:44:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6qPG-0006Mz-BT - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:35:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6q6F-0003Kd-7Z - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:15:17 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.189] (helo=web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F6q9Z-0001NX-Iz - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:18:41 -0500 -Received: (qmail 66044 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2006 14:15:14 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=DqMkJqujuORfhI3cTOg+u+ynxHZVNnHJPkUKdQMtJCnhfqy/3RIVyAoY87SZgEHZjtMo+VBvMeN7m46MggxsD2ydjqaVUMib8dm8JZYEA7tTsQfla1izvWRVmSB7bYVYMvEL4BWQPBiph49fu9BTzk3X8JY4egX2qL29PYJqW2E= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:15:14 PST +\start Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:15:14 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: JET source code up in the Axiom portal To: Martin Rubey, Bill Page -Cc: list - - - ---- Martin Rubey wrote: +Subject: Re: JET source code up in the Axiom portal > This is truly great! As far as I know JET was continued in > MuPAD, so this is not a dead end! @@ -5443,48 +2730,20 @@ write up and create a "best of breed", using the JET code for a big head start. That's of course the hard way, which I've noticed is usually also the best way as a first approximation :-/. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vZJ-0006Iy-Jk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:05:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vZH-0006IS-5L - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:05:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vZF-0006Hr-Ax - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:05:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6vZF-0006Hl-6V - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:05:33 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6vcc-0005mp-RX - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:09:03 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k18K5Zjh027787; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:05:35 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:05:35 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:05:35 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#265 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] (new) +Subject: [#265 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/265AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- -I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 5 (in /usr/local), following the instructions in the download page, but execution of axiom does not produce any proper output. Ie it produces a pair of blank lines and closes again, returning the prompt to the console. On the other hand, axiom -h works. +I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 5 (in +/usr/local), following the instructions in the download page, but +execution of axiom does not produce any proper output. Ie it produces +a pair of blank lines and closes again, returning the prompt to the +console. On the other hand, axiom -h works. -Some variations occur, eg with option noclef it closes without blank lines, and with iw it opens an X term for a second and then it closes. +Some variations occur, eg with option noclef it closes without blank +lines, and with iw it opens an X term for a second and then it closes. And here some other ones: ========= @@ -5507,205 +2766,31 @@ exec /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/sman -ws /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/AXIO What is the problem? Regards, Alejandro Jakubi --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/265AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060208140534-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vcM-0007eo-Cr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:08:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vcF-0007Zs-3p - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:08:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vcA-0007Vo-Pr - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:08:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6vc6-0007VF-33 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:08:33 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6vfT-000661-Om - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:11:59 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k18K8Zjh028160; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:08:35 -0600 -From: MathAction (Alejandro Jakubi) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:08:35 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] (new) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- -I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 5 (in /usr/local), following the instructions in the download page, but execution of axiom does not produce any proper output. Ie it produces a pair of blank lines and closes again, returning the prompt to the console. On the other hand, axiom -h works. - -Some variations occur, eg with option noclef it closes without blank lines, and with iw it opens an X term for a second and then it closes. -And here some other ones: - -========= -[root@localhost bin]# axiom -nogo -Would now start the processes. -exec /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/sman -ws /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/AXIOMsys -[root@localhost bin]# ps aux | axiom -clef trying to get the initial terminal settings: Invalid argument - - -root@localhost bin]# axiom -list -AXIOM workspaces in $AXIOM/bin = /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin: --rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13650944 Sep 5 23:20 AXIOMsys - -Would now start the processes. -exec /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/sman -ws /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/AXIOMsys - -========== -What is the problem? - -Regards, Alejandro Jakubi --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060208140835-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vp0-0006On-LE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:21:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6voy-0006NA-Ag - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:21:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6vou-0006Kj-0D - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:21:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6vot-0006KV-Qi - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:21:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6vsH-0007di-J0 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:25:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k18KLmjh029815; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:21:48 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:21:48 -0600 From: MathAction (Alejandro Jakubi) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:21:48 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- Correction: I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 4 --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060208142148-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6w6r-0000K9-MK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:40:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6w6p-0000GW-P3 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:40:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F6w6o-0000G1-WB - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:40:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6w6o-0000FX-Ct - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:40:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F6wAC-0000mN-6J - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:43:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k18Kdrjh031800; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:39:53 -0600 + +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:39:53 -0600 From: MathAction (Alejandro Jakubi) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:39:53 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] -??changed: --I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 5 (in /usr/local), following the instructions in the download page, but execution of axiom does not produce any proper output. Ie it produces a pair of blank lines and closes again, returning the prompt to the console. On the other hand, axiom -h works. I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 4 (in /usr/local), following the instructions in the download page, but execution of axiom does not produce any proper output. Ie it produces a pair of blank lines and closes again, returning the prompt to the console. On the other hand, axiom -h works. -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -++added: - - -??changed: --Correction: --I have installed axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz on Fedora Core 4 - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060208143953-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F70Iq-0006m3-02 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:08:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F70Io-0006jl-B6 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:08:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F70Il-0006eA-Rv - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:08:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F70Il-0006dF-3X - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:08:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F70MB-00029X-S8 - for list; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:12:24 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1918ijh000605; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:08:44 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:08:44 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (MathAction) -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:08:44 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] not start properly] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- My best guess is that you have SELinux enabled. As root try: echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space @@ -5714,81 +2799,26 @@ and see if that fixes the problem Tim --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg200602090156.k191uvZ15289@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74IH-0001Wf-Dj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:24:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74IG-0001WY-0S - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:24:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74IE-0001WM-FY - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:24:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F74IE-0001WJ-B9 - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:24:34 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F74Lh-0003ue-LF - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:28:09 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k195OVjh006985; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:24:31 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:24:31 -0600 From: MathAction (Alejandro Jakubi) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:24:31 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- -Yes, SELinux was enabled and enforced. This command did not solved the problem. Then I have disabled SELinux, booted, axiom did not work yet, executed the command and axiom began working. Then I have set SELinux to enabled again, booted with relabelling, and after execution of the command axiom does work, even with enforcing. +Yes, SELinux was enabled and enforced. This command did not solved the +problem. Then I have disabled SELinux, booted, axiom did not work yet, +executed the command and axiom began working. Then I have set SELinux +to enabled again, booted with relabelling, and after execution of the +command axiom does work, even with enforcing. Apparently I should call axiom from a script including this command. -Alejandro --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060208232430-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74cE-00020q-II - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:45:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74cD-00020d-5P - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:45:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F74cB-00020R-I3 - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:45:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F74cB-00020O-79 - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:45:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F74fe-000547-H2 - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:48:46 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k195jGjh008815; - Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:45:16 -0600 +\start +Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:45:16 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (MathAction) -Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:45:16 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does - not start properly] +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- > Yes, SELinux was enabled and enforced. This command did not solved the > problem. Then I have disabled SELinux, booted, axiom did not work yet, > executed the command and axiom began working. Then I have set SELinux @@ -5803,39 +2833,12 @@ release a "new" SELinux update they've broken yet another thing in Lisp. at least it solved your problem. -t - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg200602090633.k196XQl15359@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F76kb-0003xP-MT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:02:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F76kZ-0003x8-Mp - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:01:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F76kX-0003ww-VC - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:01:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F76kX-0003wt-QM - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:01:57 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.145.175] (helo=natblindhugh.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F76o2-0006Vn-Dj - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:05:34 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.166.46] (dyn166046.wlan.jku.at [140.78.166.46]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1981rhd001835; - Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:01:54 +0100 (MET) +\start Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:02:06 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Aldor download? -Cc: Stephen Watt , list, - Laurentiu Dragan +Cc: Stephen Watt, Laurentiu Dragan Yes, me. It seems, there is something wrong with the website. @@ -5844,72 +2847,19 @@ Ralf On 02/08/2006 08:30 PM, C Y wrote: > Anybody else having trouble downloading the linux version of Aldor? > -> CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7E2c-0004HX-Gk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:49:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7E2Z-0004GZ-Ec - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:49:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7E2V-0004F3-Ef - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:49:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7E2U-0004Ei-IU - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:48:58 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7E63-0008N5-KK - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:52:39 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k19Fmljh030388; - Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:48:47 -0600 + +\start +Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:48:47 -0600 From: MathAction (Alejandro Jakubi) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:48:47 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not - start properly] +Subject: [#266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly/diff --- In fact it is enough to execute the magic command once in the shell. Afterwards, axiom opens fine every time. So, I think, I should add this command to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. -Alejandro --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartProperly#msg20060209094847-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7KRA-0004MS-SI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:38:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7KNS-0001zn-GZ - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:35:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7KNP-0001yC-7w - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:35:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7KNO-0001xh-5U - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:34:58 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7KR1-0006E7-AG - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:38:43 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k19MYZ3q019194 - for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:34:53 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: +\start Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:34:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: Help with JET Dear SPAD Gurus; @@ -5933,7 +2883,7 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxDifferentialEquation Does anyone know what this message means? -Warnings:=20 +Warnings: [1] generate: not known that (Ring) is of mode (CATEGORY domain (SIGNATURE order ((NonNegativeInteger) $)) (SIGNATURE coerce = ((OutputForm) @@ -5971,67 +2921,37 @@ JB D))))) Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Lka-0007yG-SU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:03:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Lhx-0007Ea-HY - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:00:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Lho-0007Bz-Cm - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:00:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7Lhl-0007BJ-DN - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:00:05 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.23] (helo=smtp8.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7LlP-0006Jp-1O - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:03:51 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0809.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 273C51C001D9 - for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:00:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-90-30.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-90-30.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.31.30]) - by mwinf0809.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B8BD31C001D6; - Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:00:01 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Help with JET -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:00:03 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Help with JET Hi, Le jeudi 09 f=E9vrier 2006 =E0 17:34 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > Dear SPAD Gurus; ->=20 +> > I have been working with Werner Seiler's JET package at: ->=20 +> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJet ->=20 +> > but on the first example I a stopped by the error message: ->=20 +> > Internal Error > Unexpected error in call to system function evalSlotDomain ->=20 +> > in: ->=20 +> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJetFigure4 ->=20 +> > Apparently this is related to a warning in the compile of: ->=20 +> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxDifferentialEquation ->=20 +> > Does anyone know what this message means? ->=20 -> Warnings:=20 +> +> Warnings: > [1] generate: not known that (Ring) is of mode (CATEGORY domain > (SIGNATURE order ((NonNegativeInteger) $)) (SIGNATURE coerce ((OutputFo= rm) @@ -6072,62 +2992,11 @@ printSys doesn't use 'generate' and stop with the same error. If you trace DE (DifferentialEquation) you'll see that these functions are never called. May be a too complicated type for the actual axiom. -Cheers, - -Greg - -> ----------- ->=20 -> Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ->=20 -> Regards, -> Bill Page. ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7MQf-0007uS-En - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:46:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7MM1-00040J-9z - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:41:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7MLz-0003ys-Al - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:41:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7MKn-00031D-LO - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:40:26 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7MOS-0000xj-1E - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:44:12 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1A0eNk4030393; - Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:40:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (dynamic-acs-72-23-22-90.zoominternet.net - [72.23.22.90]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8163F7F403; - Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:40:23 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1A1SnK16021; - Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:28:49 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:28:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Help with JET -Cc: list The compiler is looking for something that is defined as Ring with order(NonNegativeInteger) -> % , coerce(OutputForm) -> %, ... @@ -6255,36 +3124,11 @@ be found (unlikely since you probably don't play with expose). Or it could just be a bug. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7PTA-0002is-Th - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:01:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7PP8-0007yW-Rk - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:57:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7PP5-0007xj-8Y - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:57:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7PP5-0007xg-5e - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:57:03 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7PSl-0005TF-IT - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:00:51 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1A3ujGY021420; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:56:56 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:56:34 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Help with JET -Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 22:56:34 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Tim, @@ -6295,8 +3139,8 @@ this is probably not the issue that causes the failure. I did a trace at the point of failure and I see: )trace evalSlotDomain - Function traced: evalSlotDomain=20 -janet:de :=3D generate [eq1,eq2] + Function traced: evalSlotDomain +janet:de := generate [eq1,eq2] 1 2 @@ -6335,22 +3179,22 @@ JetBundle is a domain that in the example is called like this: - jb:=3DJB(['x,'y,'z],['u]) + jb:=JB(['x,'y,'z],['u]) Now, the code in JetBundle that apparently generates the warning is right at the top of the definition of this domain: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJetBundle -V =3D=3D> Vector -Sy =3D=3D> Symbol +V ==> Vector +Sy ==> Symbol ... - nn:NNI :=3D #IVar - mm:NNI :=3D #DVar - nameX:V Sy :=3D new(nn, first IVar) - nameU:V Sy :=3D new(mm, first DVar) + nn:NNI := #IVar + mm:NNI := #DVar + nameX:V Sy := new(nn, first IVar) + nameU:V Sy := new(mm, first DVar) for i in 2..nn repeat qsetelt!(nameX,i,qelt(IVar,i)) for i in 2..mm repeat @@ -6361,50 +3205,22 @@ Sy =3D=3D> Symbol which is apparently copying the List into a Vector for each parameter. I wonder why not just write? - nameX:=3DIvar::V Sy + nameX:=Ivar::V Sy What's the point of calling 'new' here? Anyway it seems significant to me that the Internal Error above -occurs during the call to evalSlotDomain for 2nd element of the -first parameter list 'y. - -Can you give me some idea for what "unknown Functor code" might -mean in this warning? - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - +occurs during the call to evalSlotDomain for 2nd element of the +first parameter list 'y. +Can you give me some idea for what "unknown Functor code" might +mean in this warning? \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Q2q-0006fI-BW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:38:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Pz0-0005qL-Dv - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:34:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7Pyy-0005q7-Am - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:34:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7Pyy-0005q4-7q - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:34:08 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7Q2f-0006eq-17 - for list; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:37:57 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1A4Xf86032133; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:33:57 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Bill Page'" Bill Page, Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Help with JET Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:33:29 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: RE: Help with JET On February 9, 2006 10:57 PM I wrote: > ... @@ -6479,38 +3295,10 @@ Sexpression but I am way beyond of my level of incompetence here Ideas? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ZCO-00072I-6H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:24:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ZC9-0006zd-D4 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:24:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ZC2-0006wh-0v - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:24:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7ZC1-0006wW-4p - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:24:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.211] (helo=mails11.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7ZFn-0006XL-Pt - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:28:07 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails11.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1AENnvD008719; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:24:06 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:23:36 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: non extending category Tim, @@ -6520,7 +3308,7 @@ In http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxJetBundleExpression I see another strange SPAD message: --------------non extending category---------------------- -.. JetBundleExpression #1 of cat=20 +.. JetBundleExpression #1 of cat (|Join| (|JetBundleFunctionCategory| |#1|) (|FunctionSpace| (|Integer|)) (|AlgebraicallyClosedFunctionSpace| (|Integer|)) @@ -6535,7 +3323,7 @@ I see another strange SPAD message: (|Integer|)) |#1|) $)) (SIGNATURE |reduce| ($ $)) (SIGNATURE |function| = ($ (|Symbol|) (|List| $) (|NonNegativeInteger|))))) has no -=20 + (IF (|has| (|Integer|) (|IntegralDomain|)) (PROGN (ATTRIBUTE (|AlgebraicallyClosedFunctionSpace| (|Integer|))) (ATTRIBUTE (|TranscendentalFunctionCategory|)) (ATTRIBUTE = @@ -6563,43 +3351,11 @@ Any idea what this means? What is a "non extending category"? Is it trying to say that JetBundleExpression is missing some function definitions? -Regards, -Bill page. - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7aCl-0000v8-OI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:29:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7aCg-0000tl-1K - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:28:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7aCd-0000tR-Ep - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:28:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7aCc-0000tM-K9 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:28:54 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.191] (helo=web31711.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7aGP-0004Ii-Rs - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:32:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18439 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2006 15:28:52 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=Mw2PFl9kfxrLcrWZq/MCsciP6AeKmQ1m1aeRBaEqNI6kQtyrmuIf5gTGj4oIORO4vTk6vNMFaEZY0c0RnocpLfpk1baPjWq4zk/6PfCusWPs53iceBLMqjnD73K4fZLAzAkbpT7kxi5qMtup2FpHUtenPppV8jw1R40Wa2Ntbgg= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31711.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:28:52 PST +\start Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:28:52 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: non extending category To: Bill Page -Cc: list - - +Subject: Re: non extending category --- Bill Page wrote: > @@ -6614,46 +3370,10 @@ figured since the dates matched up with the papers fairly well it would be close, but I might have been wrong. Sorry, I should have mentioned that in the release email . -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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JetBundleExpression #1 of cat @@ -6742,37 +3462,11 @@ then we can factor polynomials of the new type. i don't see any error message on the wiki page about 'non-extending category' -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7aid-0002aW-G9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:02:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ahy-0002Jv-Gl - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:01:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ag4-0001bl-EX - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:59:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7acB-0000G6-CJ - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:55:19 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7afy-0006bO-N3 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:59:14 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1AFsvHQ003334; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:55:13 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: non extending category Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:54:43 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: non extending category Cliff, @@ -6833,76 +3527,20 @@ a special domain for polynomial equations, but there have been very bizarre problems with AXIOM. For this reason JBE takes currently the place of such a domain." -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7akj-0003Ef-He - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:04:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ak1-000335-7n - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:03:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7ach-0000OD-I9 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:55:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7aYL-0007s1-1E - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:51:21 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7ac8-0005zu-FC - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:55:16 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1AFpKjh021229; - Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:51:20 -0600 +Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:51:20 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:51:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [GraphViz] test -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz/diff --- \begin{latex} \digraph[Options]{Name}{Specification} \end{latex} - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz#msg20060210095118-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7bXu-0007T9-7s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:54:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7bXn-0007RQ-W0 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:54:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7bXk-0007Qu-Uu - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:54:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7ane-0004F4-9O - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7arS-0007ns-0B - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:11:06 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1AG6oZw006361; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:07:05 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly +\start Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:06:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: non extending category Tim, @@ -6933,211 +3571,22 @@ There you see a very long line of compiler output. User vertical scroll to see " ... has no ..." right near the end of the line which continues on to the next line. -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7c5J-0000uH-AX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:29:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7c5H-0000t4-64 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:29:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7c5D-0000r5-7N - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:29:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7c5C-0000qt-Sp - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:29:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7c91-0007yg-9M - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:33:19 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1AHTPjh002648; - Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:29:25 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:29:25 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [GraphViz] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz/diff --- - -??changed: -- \digraph[Options]{Name}{Specification} -- \end{latex} -- -- -\digraph[Options]{GraphVizGraphName}{Specification->Required!} -\end{latex} - - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz#msg20060210112925-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cBI-0003Xo-Oo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:35:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cBE-0003VQ-07 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:35:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cB6-0003Q1-7d - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:35:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7cB5-0003Pi-Hd - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:35:27 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.26] (helo=smtp5.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7cEt-00008d-Vz - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:39:24 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 69FC21C00162 - for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:35:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from elipse (ALille-251-1-46-35.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - [82.127.200.35]) - by mwinf0503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 218E41C00171 - for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:35:26 +0100 (CET) -From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: "Axiom-Developer" -Subject: Re: Help with JET Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:35:30 +0100 - charset="iso-8859-1" +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Re: Help with JET Hi, For information, JET works cleany under Windows. I think we will find the problem in the near future :) -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cDI-0004k5-Vp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:37:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cDF-0004hS-8D - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:37:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7cDB-0004dF-EX - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:37:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7cD1-0004UX-E9 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:37:29 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7cGp-0000Jc-SI - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:41:24 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1AHbUjh003885; - Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:37:30 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:37:30 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [GraphViz] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz/diff --- - -??changed: -- \\digraph[scale=0.8]{GraphVizGraph2}{ - \\digraph[scale=0.8]{GraphVizGraph2a}{ - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.8]{GraphVizGraph2}{ -\digraph[scale=0.8]{GraphVizGraph2a}{ - -??changed: -- \\digraph{GraphVizGraph3} - \\digraph{GraphVizGraph3a} - -??changed: --\digraph{GraphVizGraph3} -\digraph{GraphVizGraph3a} - -??changed: -- \\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph4} - \\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph4a} - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph4} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph4a} - -??changed: --Graphs 5 and 6 -Graphs 5b and 6b - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph5}{rankdir=LR; a5->b5; b5->c5} --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph6}{rankdir=LR; a6->b6; b6->c6} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph5b}{rankdir=LR; a5->b5; b5->c5} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph6b}{rankdir=LR; a6->b6; b6->c6} - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph7}{rankdir=LR; a7->b7; b7->c7} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph7b}{rankdir=LR; a7->b7; b7->c7} - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph8}{rankdir=LR; a8->b8; b8->c8; c8->d8} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph8b}{rankdir=LR; a8->b8; b8->c8; c8->d8} - -??changed: --\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph9}{rankdir=LR; a9->b9; b9->c9} -\digraph[scale=0.5]{GraphVizGraph9b}{rankdir=LR; a9->b9; b9->c9} - -??changed: -- \digraph[scale=1.5]{GraphVizGraph10}{rankdir=LR; a10->b10; b10->c10} - \digraph[scale=1.5]{GraphVizGraph10b}{rankdir=LR; a10->b10; b10->c10} - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/GraphViz#msg20060210113730-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7hGl-0005CT-Cz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:01:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7hGj-0005Bm-GH - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:01:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7hGh-0005AW-6A - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:01:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7hGg-0005AO-V1 - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:01:35 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7hKX-0000HE-AV - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:05:34 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1AN1O5e026100 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:01:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:55:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: non extending category -Cc: list > Anyone else want to help with this? :) See: > @@ -7231,37 +3680,11 @@ if you just want to make the code compile properly. It would be even better to relate the code to the paper but that is probably too much for the beginning. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7krl-00039O-IK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:52:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7kri-00039A-Kq - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:52:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F7krh-00038n-Im - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:52:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7krh-00038k-CA - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:52:01 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7kvb-0005Z0-7T - for list; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:56:03 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1B2pcUh032634; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:51:49 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: non extending category Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:51:23 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: non extending category Ralf, @@ -7440,51 +3863,21 @@ to compile, I think it would make a very good example of a literate program as a paper. I wonder if we can get the original LaTeX code for the paper from the author? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F81YT-0001L2-I6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:41:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F81A7-00010v-00 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:16:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80fO-0006sa-Dc - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:44:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80Hx-0007Yj-50 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:20:09 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp3.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7yeI-0003iY-V2 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:35:07 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C5801C00514 - for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:30:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-93-118.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-93-118.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.90.118]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2533A1C00503; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:30:54 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Help with JET -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:30:59 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Help with JET Hi, Le samedi 11 f=E9vrier 2006 =E0 12:10 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > On February 11, 2006 11:31 AM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > I have tested JET with the December release of Axiom (downloaded the > > 01/25/06 at savannah) on Linux and that works correctly. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Could you please provide detailed instructions as to what > you compiled and in what order you compiled the modules? @@ -7503,25 +3896,25 @@ Compiled in this order: I haven't compiled the other files (some of them doesn't compile). ->=20 +> > Are you using just the SPAD code or the Aldor code? I'm using only the spad code. ->=20 +> > After everything is compiled, does it run the first example > properly? -Yes, it's the only sample that i've tested=20 +Yes, it's the only sample that i've tested (the result is correct). ->=20 -> >=20 +> +> > > > But i have found, may be, a little mistake in the file > > foam_l.lisp.pamphlet -> >=20 +> > > > The diff from Peter Broadbery is : -> >=20 +> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --- orig/src/interp/foam_l.lisp.pamphlet > > +++ mod/src/interp/foam_l.lisp.pamphlet @@ -7529,167 +3922,55 @@ Yes, it's the only sample that i've tested=20 > > (cond ( (or (NULL u) (NULL v)) nil) > > ( (and (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) (eql u v)) > > ( (or (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) nil) -> > - ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v))=20 +> > - ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > > - nil )) > > +;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > > + (t (eq u v)))) -> > =20 +> > > > (defun |magicEq1| (u v) > > (cond ( (and (atom u) (atom v)) (|politicallySound| u v)) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ -> >=20 -> >=20 +> > +> > > > and the content of foam_l.lisp.pamphlet is: -> >=20 -> >=20 +> > +> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > (cond ( (or (NULL u) (NULL v)) nil) > > ( (and (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) (eql u v)) > > ( (or (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) nil) > > ;; removed for Aldor integration -> > ;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v))=20 +> > ;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > > nil )) -> >=20 +> > > > (defun |magicEq1| (u v) > > (cond ( (and (atom u) (atom v)) (|politicallySound| u v)) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ -> >=20 -> >=20 +> > +> > > > There is a replacement of 'nil' by 't (eq u v))'. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I presume that this would only affect Aldor code when run > inside Axiom, right? right. ->=20 +> > What is the error that makes you think Peter's code is > incorrect? -I think Tim forgot (may be) to replace 'nil' by 't (eq u v))'. - -Cheers, - -Greg - - -> Regards, -> Bill Page. ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80xn-0004uH-Ig - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:03:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80qF-0002Kp-Nz - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:55:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80fR-0006uJ-Cm - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:44:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80Id-0007uG-2U - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:20:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7xM4-0006Pj-Ut - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:12:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1BG84jh029886; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:08:04 -0600 -From: MathAction (Gilbert Flores) -To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:08:04 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#268 Amazing, Abe] (new) Amazing, Abe - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AmazingAbe/diff --- -Good morning sir, - -Amazing, Glenda-> http://sfdfrm.hypercardclub.net/?dfumoucgncem - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AmazingAbe#msg9750.9640@datag.com:17770011 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F81OR-000658-EP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:30:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F81Da-00024N-Ou - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:19:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80au-0005Un-B6 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:39:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80JY-0007uG-Si - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:21:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7vcm-0006al-Kb - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:21:20 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1BEHBjh008948; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:17:11 -0600 -From: MathAction (Helen Pineda) -To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:17:11 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#267 Amazing, Karl] (new) Amazing, Karl - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/267AmazingKarl/diff --- -Good morning sir, - -Amazing, Letitia-> http://rrjlja.worldefund.info/?couswyzgxvwy - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/267AmazingKarl#msg260705007492958281487721@everymail.net - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F82jD-0007fi-Ta - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:56:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F82Xc-0004Gx-Qu - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:44:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F820U-0002sM-Qc - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:10:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80I9-000863-1m - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:20:21 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.211] (helo=mails11.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7yKi-0007mS-Gu - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:14:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails11.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1BHAIju002972; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:10:30 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Help with JET Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:10:01 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Help with JET On February 11, 2006 11:31 AM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > I have tested JET with the December release of Axiom (downloaded the > 01/25/06 at savannah) on Linux and that works correctly. ->=20 +> Could you please provide detailed instructions as to what you compiled and in what order you compiled the modules? @@ -7699,12 +3980,12 @@ Are you using just the SPAD code or the Aldor code? After everything is compiled, does it run the first example properly? ->=20 +> > But i have found, may be, a little mistake in the file > foam_l.lisp.pamphlet ->=20 +> > The diff from Peter Broadbery is : ->=20 +> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --- orig/src/interp/foam_l.lisp.pamphlet > +++ mod/src/interp/foam_l.lisp.pamphlet @@ -7712,34 +3993,34 @@ properly? > (cond ( (or (NULL u) (NULL v)) nil) > ( (and (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) (eql u v)) > ( (or (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) nil) -> - ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v))=20 +> - ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > - nil )) > +;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > + (t (eq u v)))) -> =20 +> > (defun |magicEq1| (u v) > (cond ( (and (atom u) (atom v)) (|politicallySound| u v)) > ------------------------------------------------------------ ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > and the content of foam_l.lisp.pamphlet is: ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > (cond ( (or (NULL u) (NULL v)) nil) > ( (and (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) (eql u v)) > ( (or (ATOM u) (ATOM v)) nil) > ;; removed for Aldor integration -> ;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v))=20 +> ;; ( (equal (length u) (length v)) (|magicEq1| u v)) > nil )) ->=20 +> > (defun |magicEq1| (u v) > (cond ( (and (atom u) (atom v)) (|politicallySound| u v)) > ------------------------------------------------------------ ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > There is a replacement of 'nil' by 't (eq u v))'. ->=20 +> I presume that this would only affect Aldor code when run inside Axiom, right? @@ -7747,82 +4028,23 @@ inside Axiom, right? What is the error that makes you think Peter's code is incorrect? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F82J8-0000LS-IK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:29:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F81YZ-0001Nx-8W - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:41:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F80fZ-0006xs-36 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:44:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80HY-0007tE-Rd - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:19:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7zQD-0007q3-SR - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:24:38 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1BIKTjh025310; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:20:29 -0600 +Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:20:29 -0600 From: MathAction (rrogers) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:20:29 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] - Fedora 3 fc3 Remedy?? +Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] Fedora 3 fc3 Remedy?? -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3/diff --- Tim You asked me for the two compiles, I put them in www.plaidheron.com/ray/temp I thought I had posted this here but it doesn't seem to be here. sorry for the repeat, if it exists in ... land. I do want to take it down in a couple of days. -Ray --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3#msg20060211122018-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F83LI-0001Bz-Dv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:35:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F83FL-0008G4-75 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:29:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F82zz-0004EM-90 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:13:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80IW-000863-QY - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:20:44 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.23] (helo=smtp8.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7xi2-0008TB-UJ - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:34:55 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0804.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D36901C003E7 - for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:30:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-93-118.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-93-118.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.90.118]) - by mwinf0804.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 704D91C003CA; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:30:42 +0100 (CET) +\start +Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:30:47 +0100 Subject: RE: Help with JET -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page -Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:30:47 +0100 -Cc: list Hi, @@ -7870,49 +4092,11 @@ and the content of foam_l.lisp.pamphlet is: There is a replacement of 'nil' by 't (eq u v))'. - -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F83jD-0001JQ-4j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:00:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F83jB-0001Ib-78 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:00:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F83hb-0000fZ-3h - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:58:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F80HW-0007uG-C9 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:19:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7zTs-0000aM-N5 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:28:24 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1BIOC5a025361; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:24:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-21-105.zoominternet.net [72.23.21.105]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA4A7F403; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:24:12 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1BJCZm17365; - Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:12:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:12:35 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= on Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:30:59 +0100) Subject: Re: Help with JET - <1139679059.5780.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - fixed in the next release @@ -7966,37 +4150,11 @@ fixed in the next release > I presume that this would only affect Aldor code when run > inside Axiom, right? 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+Subject: [#33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3/diff --- got them. thanks. --t - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3#msg200602120024.k1C0ORp17489@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F84bM-00045C-Ui - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F84bL-00044n-Hv - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F84bJ-00042j-Q0 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F84bJ-00042U-Kf - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:25 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp3.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F84fP-0001nK-Ks - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:00:39 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA7D41C0056F - for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:56:23 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-22-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-22-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.128.162]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8E1E21C0056C; - Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:56:23 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Help with JET -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page - <1139679059.5780.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> - <1139699432.3924.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> + +\start Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:56:30 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Help with JET Hi, -Le dimanche 12 f=E9vrier 2006 =E0 00:10 +0100, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9cri= -t : > Hi, ->=20 +> > My apologies, JET does not really work on Windows nor on Linux. > The test was just a fresh compilation of JET in the order mentioned > in a previous email. That worked because, i think, the procedure (of @@ -8110,50 +4204,19 @@ Cheers, Greg > For example the janet sample from Seiler works with ->=20 +> > )lib JBC JBFC JBC- JBFC- BFC BFC- JB JBX JBLF DE SEM DIFF JBE CK ->=20 -> Another order trigger the evalSlotDomain bug or=20 ->=20 +> +> Another order trigger the evalSlotDomain bug or +> > >> System error: > The index, 3, is too large. ->=20 -> Cheers, ->=20 -> Greg - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F87Va-0006FG-VQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F87VW-0006EA-RB - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F87VU-0006Da-41 - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F87VT-0006DG-Lr - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.209] (helo=mails09.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F87Zb-0005Sa-Jg - for list; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:06:51 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails09.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1C32B5s026209; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Help with JET -Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:01:54 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list -Gr=E9gory, +\start +Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:01:54 -0500 +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Help with JET Excellent! Thank you very much for finding this solution. @@ -8173,363 +4236,28 @@ Cheers, Bill Page. On February 11, 2006 6:11 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > My apologies, JET does not really work on Windows nor on Linux. > The test was just a fresh compilation of JET in the order mentioned > in a previous email. That worked because, i think, the procedure -> (of compilation) loads the library in a special order (thanks=20 +> (of compilation) loads the library in a special order (thanks > Bill for your question). ->=20 +> > For example the janet sample from Seiler works with ->=20 +> > )lib JBC JBFC JBC- JBFC- BFC BFC- JB JBX JBLF DE SEM DIFF JBE CK ->=20 -> Another order trigger the evalSlotDomain bug or=20 ->=20 +> +> Another order trigger the evalSlotDomain bug or +> > >> System error: > The index, 3, is too large. ->=20 - - - - - - +> \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8Dx7-0002pb-Nx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:55:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8Dx2-0002nl-9l - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:55:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8Dwy-0002mu-Vx - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:55:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8Dwx-0002mc-JE - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:55:24 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8E19-0008W4-Js - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:59:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1C9tcjh023103; - Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:55:38 -0600 -From: MathAction (unknown) -To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:55:38 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Found Objects] ambien - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects/diff --- - Great place to visit! 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I fear that this thought also applies to other pieces of code in Axiom. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MYN-0008Hk-32 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MYL-0008Gy-NY - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MYJ-0008GA-RH - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8MYJ-0008G7-Oc - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:31 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8Mcb-0005kM-6v - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:10:57 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1CJ6RUE032014; - Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-21-116.zoominternet.net [72.23.21.116]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCDF7F405; - Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:06:27 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1CJsnQ25353; - Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:54:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:54:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Feb 2006 01:25:10 +0100) Subject: Re: non extending category -Cc: list > >> It would be even better to relate the code to the paper but that > >> is probably too much for the beginning. @@ -8732,36 +4428,11 @@ is still a significant amount of effort to make these files into literate programs and the persons making that effort should share the credit. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MxX-00062M-IQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:32:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MxU-0005zs-Dj - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:32:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8MxQ-0005yl-UM - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8MxQ-0005yS-Kk - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:32:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8N1i-0007es-A6 - for list; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:36:54 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1CJVx8I017870; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:32:16 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: non extending category Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:31:40 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: non extending category On February 11, 2006 7:25 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -8943,42 +4614,12 @@ design documentation/papers/notes about this. 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Of course, for initial @@ -9266,43 +4847,14 @@ Hi, I don't know, it could be due to initialisation code (see for example JetBundle.spad lines 565-573). -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gbb-00070R-7M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:31:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gbY-0006xB-LP - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:31:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gbX-0006uu-4q - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:31:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8gbW-0006um-UR - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:31:11 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8gg0-0006wC-Ka - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:35:48 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1DGUdc0004068; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:57 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:30:36 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: What is SubDomain (was: non extending category) On February 12, 2006 7:05 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > No I did not check. I don't speak "BOOT". I don't speak "BOOT" either but I am slowly learning to read it a @@ -9330,24 +4882,24 @@ also http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-09/msg00250.htm= l -> Now I checked and I know as much as I knew before. That code is not=20 +> Now I checked and I know as much as I knew before. That code is not > understandable to me. Although I tend to say that in ->=20 -> coerceSubset([x,m,e],m') =3D=3D -> isSubset(m,m',e) or m=3D"Rep" and m'=3D"$" =3D> [x,m',e] -> m is ['SubDomain,=3Dm',:.] =3D> [x,m',e] -> (pred:=3D LASSOC(opOf m',get(opOf m,'SubDomain,e))) and=20 +> +> coerceSubset([x,m,e],m') == +> isSubset(m,m',e) or m="Rep" and m'="$" => [x,m',e] +> m is ['SubDomain,=m',:.] => [x,m',e] +> (pred:= LASSOC(opOf m',get(opOf m,'SubDomain,e))) and > INTEGERP x and > -- obviously this is temporary -> eval substitute(x,"#1",pred) =3D> [x,m',e] -> (pred:=3D isSubset(m',maxSuperType(m,e),e)) and INTEGERP x -- again = +> eval substitute(x,"#1",pred) => [x,m',e] +> (pred:= isSubset(m',maxSuperType(m,e),e)) and INTEGERP x -- again = > temporary -> and eval substitute(x,"*",pred) =3D> +> and eval substitute(x,"*",pred) => > [x,m',e] > nil ->=20 -> (which is the only place where "SubDomain" appears) that does=20 +> +> (which is the only place where "SubDomain" appears) that does > not look like a DEFINITION of "SubDomain", more like USE. Actually the "definition" of 'SubDomain' appears to be spread over @@ -9355,7 +4907,7 @@ several modules. The search: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/FrontPage/searc= hwi -ki?expr=3Dsubdomain +ki?expr=subdomain show that it occurs in 33 modules in the interp source code, but I think not all of these are relevant because there are actually @@ -9384,15 +4936,15 @@ APPEND($Primitives,$noCategoryDomains)) SCM: Do you happen to remember what you wrote 20 years ago? :) ->=20 +> > >> If I compile just with the Aldor compiler, then the SPAD > >> compiler is not involved. ->=20 +> > > But src/algebra/integer.spad is involved indirectly through > > the Axiom library interface, I think. ->=20 +> > That should certainly be true, but that code does not contain -> a definition of SubDomain. It must be defined somewhere else=20 +> a definition of SubDomain. It must be defined somewhere else > and that code must live in libaxiom.al since that is the only > data that Aldor sees from Axiom. @@ -9405,19 +4957,19 @@ provides the interface to the Axiom modules written in SPAD, so Aldor never has to worry about the implementation of SubDomain as such. ->=20 +> > >> So if the Aldor compiler does not complain, it must find > >> "SubDomain" in libaxiom.al. I am pretty sure that the Aldor > >> compiler does NOT know of "SubDomain" by itself. ->=20 +> > > Perhaps it is true that stand alone Aldor does implement > > something like SubDomain in the algebra. ->=20 +> > There are three relevant libraries around > 1) libaldor.al (aldor.org) > 2) libalgebra.al (aldor.org) > 3) libaxiom.al (AXIOM) ->=20 +> > Since I have access to the sources of the first two libraries, > I can assure you that there is no definition of "SubDomain" > there. @@ -9426,12 +4978,12 @@ The third one is built by Peter Broadbery's make script as part of the Axiom/Aldor interface. I guess we would have to dig into that code to see exactly what is in this library. ->=20 +> > > Aldor, in a sense, is a more "primitive" compiler than SPAD, > > i.e. with fewer things built-in and more of "SPAD" actually > > coded in Aldor. ->=20 -> Right. That is the reason why it is actually easy to learn=20 +> +> Right. That is the reason why it is actually easy to learn > Aldor. There are only a few language constructs that you have > to remember. It is much harder to learn what is available > through libraries. Unfortunately, there are several libraries @@ -9447,32 +4999,32 @@ internal implementations. Right? > >> In integer.spad it says > >> > >> NonNegativeInteger: ... -> >> =3D=3D SubDomain(Integer, #1 >=3D 0) add ... +> >> == SubDomain(Integer, #1 >= 0) add ... > >> -> ...=20 -> OK. '#1 >=3D 0' is depending on the first argument of SubDomain.=20 +> ... +> OK. '#1 >= 0' is depending on the first argument of SubDomain. > Otherwise, nobody could find out what the symbol '0' actually > stands for. So I guess then an Aldor definition would look like ->=20 -> SubDomain: (T: Type, isElement?: T -> Boolean): ??? =3D=3D { ... } ->=20 +> +> SubDomain: (T: Type, isElement?: T -> Boolean): ??? == { ... } +> > where ??? is some category that is quite hard to guess. > And the second entry of SubDomain is a Boolean valued -> function (ie. '#1 >=3D 0' is a function). ->=20 +> function (ie. '#1 >= 0' is a function). +> > >> But what does SubDomain return? ->=20 +> > > SubDomain is an expression that defines a new domain. ->=20 +> > That is a good guess. ;-) ->=20 +> > >> And a much more interesting question: how does this work? ->=20 +> > > For that you must consult the undocumented interp/compiler.boot > > source code. :( ->=20 +> > Since SubDomain is not clearly defined, nobody will be able to -> use it properly except those few people who know about its=20 +> use it properly except those few people who know about its > semantics. For all the others it is guesswork and that totally > contradicts the goal of Axiom to support a clear type hierarchy. @@ -9487,41 +5039,41 @@ Maybe just an import of Integer would do? I do not know of any specific case where the knowledge that NNI and PI are "subdomains" of Integer is actually used. ->=20 +> > >> If I see Integer, than that is a blackbox for me. I only > >> know the interface, ie, its type or its category. > >> -> >> Now what should SubDomain do? It takes, for example, the=20 +> >> Now what should SubDomain do? It takes, for example, the > >> implementation of a function *: (%, %) -> % from Integer > >> and returns another implementation that checks whether the > >> input arguments are non-negative and the result is non-negative. -> >=20 +> > > > No. I think it simply lifts all operations from Integer to NNI. ->=20 +> > That is what I feared. It is like a hidden "pretend" somewhere. ->=20 +> > In Aldor one could write it like ->=20 -> NNI: SomeCategory =3D=3D Integer add { -> Rep =3D=3D Integer; +> +> NNI: SomeCategory == Integer add { +> Rep == Integer; > -- remaining functions > } ->=20 -> NNI then inherits anything from Integer that it does not explicitly=20 +> +> NNI then inherits anything from Integer that it does not explicitly > override. So for example, if SomeCategory contains ->=20 +> > -: (%, %) -> % ->=20 -> and NNI does not explicitly override it, then it is the -=20 +> +> and NNI does not explicitly override it, then it is the - > from Integer. But that would clearly not be the intend of the > programmer, since 3-4 is not a NNI. So one has to override it. ->=20 -> (a: %) - (b: %): % =3D=3D { -> c: Rep :=3D rep a - rep b; +> +> (a: %) - (b: %): % == { +> c: Rep := rep a - rep b; > if c < 0 then throw NoNonNegativeIntegerException; > per c; > } ->=20 +> You are right that it is not that simple. In the Axiom interpreter the commands: @@ -9536,11 +5088,11 @@ See http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/IntegerSpad -> I guess, what SubDomain does, is to add to each function that returns=20 -> "%" (i.e. a NNI) a check that is given through the second argument of=20 +> I guess, what SubDomain does, is to add to each function that returns +> "%" (i.e. a NNI) a check that is given through the second argument of > SubDomain. ->=20 -> That looks inefficient, given that there is no need for a=20 +> +> That looks inefficient, given that there is no need for a > check for the addition function. :-( No, this does not happen. But NNI does add a new function named @@ -9548,39 +5100,11 @@ subtractIfCan that returns 'Union(%, "Failed")'. > ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gzT-0001RA-6i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gzR-0001PA-00 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8gzO-0001Ne-Cu - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8gzO-0001NZ-AB - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:50 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8h3s-0001O9-8j - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:00:28 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1DGtTcL022697; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:45 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Help with JET Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:55:24 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Help with JET Greg, @@ -9618,38 +5142,10 @@ this is written seems a little awkward to me - I would have used I don't think this should be affected by the order in which the library modules are listed. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8hs3-0004h6-KL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:52:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8hrz-0004eV-GE - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:52:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8hrw-0004aR-AV - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:52:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8hrv-0004Zu-8c - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:52:11 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8hwP-0007tr-EX - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:56:50 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.58] (hemmecke@parrot.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.58]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1DHq7Ae007613; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:52:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:52:06 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: What is SubDomain Bill Page wrote: @@ -9784,38 +5280,10 @@ Anyway, I don't see need for a constructor SubDomain. What could be achieved by the SubDomain constructor, can easily be done using ordinary Aldor syntax. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8jc9-00074J-38 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:44:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8jc7-000731-E5 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:43:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8jc6-00072J-An - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:43:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8jc6-00072E-25 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:43:58 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.194] (helo=web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8jgb-0001vQ-NO - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:48:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 89208 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2006 19:42:20 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=zKONAFYhfr2BQdBbGTHqWMetzLP2M5/8OTbE0uhLfYBNqqJrsiV8agdM71bF0mNOCTqPfJpD4XyZxuSEz6WiyGlsc0heyz6n5HmC/pcTcMQ7vvU/2wAuLrcVYecC0hxdt9DFmXEmcCNaYRfuPQFeubRWxQNObrXHWVSqsa3gBRc= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:42:20 PST Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:42:20 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Aldor and Axiom (was Re: What is SubDomain) @@ -9929,41 +5397,10 @@ knowing that 4 is a real integer without having to explicitly say that? 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There are just a few subtle cases such as the SubDomain construct that we have been discussing. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8kei-0002ej-8X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8kef-0002dE-3R - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8kee-0002d2-Go - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8kee-0002cz-D1 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:40 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8kjA-0007YX-QN - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:55:20 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1DKoCZI021891; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:34 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:08 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: What is SubDomain Ralf, @@ -10120,40 +5529,10 @@ I think the the concept of NonNegativeInteger and PositiveInteger as SubDomains of Integer are not so different from this. 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8lhz-0004Ve-QL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8lhx-0004Uw-9O - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8lhv-0004UL-Qr - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lhv-0004UD-Fm - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:58:07 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8lmS-0004oz-2V - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:02:48 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1DLvanV024149; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:57:56 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp +\start Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:57:30 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom On February 13, 2006 4:22 PM C Y wrote: @@ -10451,40 +5799,10 @@ Aldor, but the rest seems great to me. I think you have the right idea. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8mt9-0001IA-KQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:13:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8mt6-0001CP-0D - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:13:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8mt0-000176-6x - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:13:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8msz-00016L-Oa - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:13:37 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.195] (helo=web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8mxX-0002XQ-Ek - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:18:19 -0500 -Received: (qmail 63342 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2006 23:13:36 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=wSH7X0Dd8E5Ql+uRxTaDlYygcgOLZn650lFqlg5TQ/vMXCA97+ycLKazLHi+4eUqf+02m0ktH04++EGNkR6gfeiC5IVdf3G8bc/9ZahJFTrOG1z9caiPSH0JWHI0QSWEit6mWkZ+oxu0fi3wkyF5RoctkkJwArrLzl0xMCO3OEY= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:13:36 PST Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -10712,41 +6030,10 @@ issues will take time, but there seems to be some confidence that they can eventually be sorted out. Let's bundle the sucker and start some algebra tuning! -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8qjl-0000Ux-Ot - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:20:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8qji-0000Tp-7K - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:20:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8qjf-0000SK-6p - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:20:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8qje-0000SD-Vx - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:20:15 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.209] (helo=mails09.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8qoF-0004sb-4c - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:24:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails09.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1E3JmAG022419; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:20:04 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp +\start Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:19:42 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom On February 13, 2006 6:14 PM C Y wrote: @@ -10995,43 +6282,13 @@ that this strategy might irritate some people that we really do not want to irritate. The question is: what is the greater risk for the Axiom project? -If we continue this discussion of licensing issues, I propose that -we move it to the axiom-legal list. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - +If we continue this discussion of licensing issues, I propose that +we move it to the axiom-legal list. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8rHh-0000bl-OZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:55:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8rHf-0000a3-Mu - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:55:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8rHd-0000YO-B8 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:55:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8rHd-0000YD-61 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:55:21 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.184] (helo=web31704.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8rMC-0008HN-26 - for list; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:00:05 -0500 -Received: (qmail 29171 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2006 03:55:15 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=ltiBHXerr0KhVThmJxFEVH6z5iWXJBbU7ktw4Q69ReLOOxDUFF6D+/UmW2LhJ3NrA+yIa7vJIlEsD31n2Dx0xTiaPrga/MUtwvMvEEa9iBOkVF7XEuzz6lWrYt0CFE4UVASNnSbAcRKxLEmrEw0ybXqRSlMWpP+HopEJqBe5hk4= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31704.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:55:15 PST Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom @@ -11240,45 +6497,10 @@ ideas, so I probably am a bit nuts ;-) > to the goal of converting (most of) the existing Axiom library to > Aldor. (See related thread op cit.) -Will do. - -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8zQF-0001gi-9V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:36:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8z4j-0006VE-0K - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:14:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F8yuu-0004Cz-58 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:04:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8xxn-0000Bc-DF - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:03:21 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F8y2R-00073E-Q9 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:08:08 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EB3E5e003985 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:03:14 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:03:12 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom (was Re: What is SubDomain) > I can't help wondering if the material in the Reference section of the @@ -11294,37 +6516,10 @@ that aldor.org must be asked at the moment. Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is nobody currently working on compiler fixes. That is a very big minus! -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Xc-0001Nk-RZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:48:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Wb-00017W-AG - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:47:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Ux-0000mU-LA - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:46:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90Li-0006vg-0v - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:36:10 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F90QN-0001cY-AH - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:40:59 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EDa35e013248 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:35:20 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: The symbol 4 (was Re: Aldor and Axiom) >> Hmm. But aren't there some cases where you want this, like @@ -11480,38 +6675,10 @@ calling the function +. Now imagine I would have implemented it in that way: So it means that the convertion from Literals to actual elements of the corresponding type happens at runtime. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90aJ-000224-RW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:51:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Wx-0001Dx-7i - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:47:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90S9-0008HH-5C - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:43:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90Lh-0006vf-V3 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:36:10 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F90QN-0001cW-AD - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:40:59 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EDa35e013244 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:35:20 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom (was Re: What is SubDomain) >> If I'm understanding correctly, most of what we would like to @@ -11643,37 +6810,10 @@ and use Aldor exclusively. With such a decision the Axiom Team clearly says where its future lies. (I hope I don't get beaten by that suggestion.) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90az-00029W-PN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:51:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Rp-0008Bh-Au - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:42:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90Nz-0007Mw-8C - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:38:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90Lg-0006vX-TE - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:36:10 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F90QM-0001cV-Eq - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:40:59 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EDa25e013241 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:13:48 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Documentation bug? Can someone explain that ... @@ -11686,35 +6826,11 @@ Can someone explain that ... Very helpful! ;-) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91IP-0005US-Ur - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:36:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91HN-0005AJ-4m - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:35:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91B9-00035C-Af - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:29:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90sV-0006Cb-2d - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:10:03 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F90x9-0004F1-If - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:14:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1EE7H3Y021964; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:07:20 +0100 (CET) +Date: 14 Feb 2006 15:09:09 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 14 Feb 2006 15:09:09 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -11729,36 +6845,10 @@ Cliff Yapp writes: Gaussian Integers? - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90xG-0007Rp-E9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:14:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90vq-0006wm-ER - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:13:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F90nt-0005E5-34 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:06:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90iF-0003xr-0r - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:59:32 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F90mt-0003Sw-O4 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:04:16 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EDxH5e014422 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:59:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:59:15 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom >> How do we resolve things like Aldor's libalgebra vs. Axiom's @@ -11808,38 +6898,12 @@ translating SPAD to Aldor is a clear task in my eyes. That will probably take several years anyway, since documentation should be added at the same time. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91Ro-0000aJ-5g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91O9-0007bs-J1 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:42:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91BT-0003Ea-Ts - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:29:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F90pO-0005Tc-0d - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:06:51 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F90u3-00043h-7z - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:11:40 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EE6i5e014871 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:06:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:06:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, Laurentiu Dragan , - Stephen Watt +To: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom +Cc: Laurentiu Dragan, Stephen Watt Hello Laurentiu, hi Stephen, @@ -11866,39 +6930,12 @@ On 02/14/2006 12:13 AM, C Y wrote: > agreement Aldor is the way forward over SPAD) lets not wait for the > legal stuff to finalize - that could take many more months. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91ip-0005Z5-2z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:04:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91Q4-0008IX-4L - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:44:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91CX-0003WO-A6 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:30:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F914j-0000u5-8m - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:22:42 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.186] (helo=web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F919E-00058w-KD - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:27:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27406 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2006 14:22:25 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=MrDi0fZWO0he7aHft2KL3YqCgHpTfeYrBBiaLiPJEg8SJlMjV92b646mOCSFZ0Ky3nRNGwGXXwdYpGTEzccxha3t+vTX+WfDeZvGxToFD+o7Hw13j9Em/8iLD91BGtwclM3u1oCH82Kbas0Je0e63MGQydZQeDVfrta0S43bv00= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:22:25 PST Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > >> How do we resolve things like Aldor's libalgebra vs. Axiom's @@ -11977,43 +7014,10 @@ where the compiler ends and the math begins (whether it is set/category theory or Axiom's domain and cagetory implementation or whatever) and get the core parts documented and working on top of Aldor? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91ix-0005cz-7h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:04:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91dr-00048F-B7 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:58:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F91UY-0001pL-Gd - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F91S5-0000hi-RD - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:49 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F91Wl-00079l-U4 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:51:40 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1EEkh5e017251 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:46:43 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:46:41 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom Hi Cliff, @@ -12042,43 +7046,11 @@ so, for example choose Vector (which has minimal index 1). I'd happy to translate libaldor into pamphlets. (Of course, help is appreciated.) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F92al-0004OP-Kx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:59:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F92Kw-000721-Vz - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:43:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9295-0004Up-QI - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:34:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F926j-0003NY-QU - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:28:50 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.206] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F92BP-0003Yr-Tp - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:33:40 -0500 -Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so436772nfc - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:28:42 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=GnunUF1bNRuJ5sS1nKo2Rh0IdJ89lyIerKMOIo+ffvcicGIWX+m8WGr4c6ESkqPWR+U+DvFZTDVSgQIv15vYvxVqywvkOuXRoExdptNQtETRW6S6zfLi+Re4G53wVDSaiZNCWL9LdufJCLL29afZFLLPlRBkMLPdnFW820SDI7Q= -Received: by 10.49.68.10 with SMTP id v10mr633757nfk; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:28:41 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.7.5 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:28:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:28:41 -0800 From: Scott Morrison -To: list +To: lsit Subject: Re: What is SubDomain (was: non extending category) - boundary="----=_Part_15119_7693248.1139930921790" - <016101c630ba$d9e08c60$6900a8c0@asus> - -------=_Part_15119_7693248.1139930921790 >> SCM: Do you happen to remember what you wrote 20 years ago? :) @@ -12095,56 +7067,12 @@ addition, for example. In the end it caused a lot more mork than it saved. The concept of sub-domain never made it into Aldor, as far as I know, and that's a good thing. --- SCM - -------=_Part_15119_7693248.1139930921790 - ->> SCM: Do you happen to remember what you wrote 20 years ago? :)
    = -
    Well, not really.

    I do remember that I never liked SubDomain.&nb= -sp; We had all kinds of special-case code to deal with it, and it was only = -used for NonNegativeInteger and PositiveInteger.  I believe the origin= -al motivation for sub-domains was to share implementations, but not categor= -ies.  So PositiveInteger could share the all the implementation code f= -rom Integer, but not the categories of Integer, since they don't form a Gro= -up under addition, for example.  In the end it caused a lot more mork = -than it saved. -

    The concept of sub-domain never made it into Aldor, as far as I kno= -w, and that's a good thing.

    -- SCM
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For purely arithmetic results @@ -12281,7 +7172,7 @@ Frink played with interval arithmetic and got some interesting results: ------- Start of forwarded message ------- To: frink@yahoogroups.com -From: Scott Kirkwood +From: Scott Kirkwood Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:11:04 -0300 Subject: Re: [Frink] Interval Arithmetic in Practice @@ -12352,47 +7243,12 @@ On 9/6/05, Alan Eliasen wrote: > > Some geocaching tools powered by Frink: > http://futureboy.us/fsp/geocaching.fsp -> -> -- -> Alan Eliasen | "It's amazing how much mature wisdom -> Alan Eliasen | resembles being too tired." -> http://futureboy.homeip.net/ | -- Robert Heinlein - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95gK-0007sl-Br - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95gH-0007nk-Co - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95gF-0007jW-C8 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F95gE-0007iS-S6 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F95ky-0006RB-Kp - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:22:36 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EJHepW018655; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:40 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4128D7F404; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:17:40 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1EK5xK17175; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:05:59 -0500 + +\start Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:05:59 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:13:48 +0100) Subject: Re: Documentation bug? -Cc: list - )abbrev domain MYINT MyInteger @@ -12401,54 +7257,24 @@ Cc: list see any pamphlet file in src/algebra -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95pe-0001Z5-9o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95pc-0001VW-5c - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95pZ-0001TA-HX - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F95pY-0001SC-R6 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:20 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F95uI-00071N-LS - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:32:14 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E00D467CAD - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:19 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F0EAC678A4 - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:12 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Documentation bug? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:27:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Documentation bug? -Thread-Index: AcYxl74HmGckwDI3Q+WoCAcvHOt2jwAAxktg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Documentation bug? On Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:14 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > Can someone explain that ... ->=20 +> > (2) -> )abbr domain XYZ > domain must be followed by an alternating list of abbreviation(s) > and name(s). Issue )abbrev? for more information. > (2) -> )abbrev? > Your argument list is not valid. ->=20 +> > Very helpful! ;-) ->=20 +> If you look in the Axiom source you will see, for example: @@ -12481,48 +7307,14 @@ because the SPAD syntax has no distinquishing keyword such as )abbrev domain DLIST DataList ++ This domain provides some nice functions on lists -DataList(S:OrderedSet) : Exports =3D=3D Implementation where - Exports =3D=3D ListAggregate(S) with - -....... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +DataList(S:OrderedSet) : Exports == Implementation where + Exports == ListAggregate(S) with \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95yg-0005nC-Lu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95ye-0005mM-PO - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F95yd-0005kh-2F - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F95yc-0005kQ-RA - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F963M-0007vD-Pl - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:41:36 -0500 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1EJaMXh030542; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:25 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C297E7F407; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:36:22 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1EKOgm17194; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:24:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:24:42 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:22:25 -0800 (PST)) Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom -Cc: list > Agreed. Am I correct that the logical starting point is to identify > where the compiler ends and the math begins (whether it is set/category @@ -12537,41 +7329,13 @@ Aldor. If you document the steps properly it can become a whole chapter in the Axiom developer book (vol 4). For reference look at the documentation I wrote for developing polynomials using the Aldor compiler. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F96xt-0007Y0-BS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:40:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F96xq-0007W9-5H - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:39:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F96xo-0007VV-9V - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:39:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F96xn-0007VO-T8 - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:39:55 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.195] (helo=web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F972Y-0004d4-BB - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:44:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32852 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2006 20:38:24 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=W/uiG7K1XcHFdP67EosZroB8h7R4rGTBMrQnqjviRU6+HRbrkufqxQeNOi+04OBs7I7IFLCV+KNI/umTey8vWiPfNEC7xmfTCxXsrP9UWGg9hKxXQX5joueWUZehSoYcbOMl+c0J9p0Z1p138ThlU4TdrOKZQIyD87Jg4lyXK7c= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:38:24 PST Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom To: Tim Daly -Cc: list - +Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom ---- root Tim Daly wrote: +--- Tim Daly wrote: > > Agreed. Am I correct that the logical starting point is to > > identify where the compiler ends and the math begins (whether it @@ -12597,43 +7361,10 @@ it with fresh eyes. OK. Here's a link for the lazy (me in a few hours ;-) : http://www.aldor.org/docs/HTML/chap21.html -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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"sock_get_int" @@ -13115,32 +7815,10 @@ since the GCL build/link happens first. Tim - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9CGO-0002wZ-1p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9CGL-0002q6-JA - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9CGI-0002eh-2m - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9CGG-0002d6-RQ - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:21 -0500 -Received: from [68.168.78.205] (helo=mta11.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9CL3-0007q0-BT - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:24:17 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta11.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060215021917.YYDM7811.mta11.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:19:12 -0500 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: groebsol.spad compile etc... Martin @@ -13160,44 +7838,14 @@ the problem, I would like to help free software along. I personally think that the availability of good free software is the only way for deprived people to gain equity in some future civilization. -Ray - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Cml-0002JO-Ek - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Cmj-0002Gz-2K - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Cmg-0002C3-DD - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Cme-0002AQ-Qj - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:49 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9CrR-0001nk-Kr - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:57:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E3FA46BEB0 - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:46 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0371A6BEAE - for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:42 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:33 -0500 -Thread-Topic: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -Thread-Index: AcYxtVjfGieuUD+BQ76BvgmDrXk/RQAIfhMg From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list +To: Gianluca Gregori +Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris On Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:05 AM Gianluca Gregori wrote: ->=20 +> > I am trying to compile axiom on a sparc solaris machine but > having lots of trouble (not to experienced as well). > I was able to compile gcl-2.6.7 with the --enable-custreloc @@ -13224,9 +7872,9 @@ You must set your AXIOM and PATH variables. Type: To build the rest of the system type: -export AXIOM=3D/export/disk0/dmprod/axiom/mnt/solaris9 -export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH -make AWK=3Dgawk TAR=3Dgtar PATCH=3Dgpatch +export AXIOM=/export/disk0/dmprod/axiom/mnt/solaris9 +export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +make AWK=gawk TAR=gtar PATCH=gpatch --------- @@ -13243,7 +7891,7 @@ the option --enable-locbfd. But the build of GCL stops with the error: ... -gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = +gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 = -fomit-frame-pointer -I/export/disk0/dmprod/axiom/lsp/gcl-2.6.7/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk run_process.c @@ -13278,107 +7926,18 @@ I tried building gcl cvs again on solaris yesterday. Everything went smoothly, except run_process.c uses SIOCSPGRP. On Solaris, this isn't defined unless you include sys/sockio.h I just added that to run_process.c and it compiles up nicely. -=20 + ------------ Perhaps you are also seeing this problem? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9E57-0007ak-40 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9E4z-0007Xi-Qa - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9E4u-0007Ug-8p - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9E4t-0007UV-Jd - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:43 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9E9i-0008Ph-FG - for list; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:20:42 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1F4Frjh027158; - Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:15:53 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:15:53 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [MutualRecursion] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion/diff --- - -??changed: --\begin{axiom} -\begin{spad} - -??changed: --\end{axiom} -\end{spad} - -??changed: --\begin{axiom} -\begin{spad} - -??changed: --\end{axiom} -\end{spad} - -??changed: --\begin{axiom} -\begin{spad} - -??changed: --\end{axiom} -\end{spad} - -??changed: --\begin{axiom} -\begin{spad} - -??changed: --\end{axiom} -\end{spad} - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion#msg20060214221553-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Exi-0008MU-8f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Exf-0008FJ-DU - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Exc-0008A2-G7 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Exc-00089Z-9q - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.116.0.229] (helo=S3.cableone.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9F2R-0003Mw-LG - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:17:15 -0500 -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (unverified [24.117.100.92]) - by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 46593169 - for multiple; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:43:28 -0700 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom -From: Jay Belanger Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:12:08 -0600 - "Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:57:30 -0500") -Cc: list - +From: Jay Belanger +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: ... >> Hmm. But aren't there some cases where you want this, like >> (say) knowing that 4 is a real integer without having to @@ -13402,42 +7961,12 @@ Is it that clear that it will become open source? It may be that it just takes a while, but is it possible that it's taking a while because there are roadblocks that we aren't aware of? -Jay - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Ey7-0000hN-Ng - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Ey6-0000gT-Dj - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Ey4-0000eT-IR - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Ey4-0000eM-B7 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:12:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9F2t-0003Nz-N0 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:17:43 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD33E40E27; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:12:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1F5EW6P020376; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:14:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1F5EW3X020375; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:14:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 15 Feb 2006 06:14:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Feb 2006 06:14:32 +0100 -Cc: list, ggregori@ureach.com +Cc: Gianluca Gregori Bill Page writes: @@ -13482,74 +8011,40 @@ intervention. I haven't looked to configure yet, but if we're going to use configure at all, then we should use the standard scripts that compute and use the canonical system triplet. - - I no longer have access to sparc or solaris boxes at home. At work I do have access to solaris boxes, but any development that require "unusual" toolsets setting is basically unlikely to happen :-( - - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FA8-0004Cr-VH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FA6-0004Ai-Qe - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FA4-00048p-EZ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9FA3-00048P-N8 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:07 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9FEt-00040E-4h - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:30:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E6CC16C0F4 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:06 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5CBBC6C0EC - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:04 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:25:03 -0500 -Thread-Topic: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -Thread-Index: AcYx7nXfdrPzAJNDSNubFtKljsTr3QAANKNw From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:15 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: -> |=20 +> | > | ./configure -> |=20 +> | > | You must set your AXIOM and PATH variables. Type: -> |=20 +> | > | To build the rest of the system type: -> |=20 -> | export AXIOM=3D/export/disk0/dmprod/axiom/mnt/solaris9 -> | export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH -> | make AWK=3Dgawk TAR=3Dgtar PATCH=3Dgpatch ->=20 +> | +> | export AXIOM=/export/disk0/dmprod/axiom/mnt/solaris9 +> | export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> | make AWK=gawk TAR=gtar PATCH=gpatch +> > We should aim to mechanize those steps instead of requiring user > intervention. I agree completely. The way the Axiom build works right now is quite non-standard and largely unsatisfactory. ->=20 +> > | The Axiom ./configure uses 'solaris9' even though my system > | is actually Solaris 8. I don't think this a problem. ->=20 +> > I haven't looked to configure yet, but if we're going to use > configure at all, then we should use the standard scripts that > compute and use the canonical system triplet. @@ -13562,46 +8057,14 @@ If you have some experience with using autoconf then your help creating a proper ./configure for Axiom would be greatly appreciated. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FlH-0004Vj-Nn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FlC-0004UO-Ta - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9FlA-0004TL-Ty - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Fl9-0004Sd-69 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:27 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Fpx-0006zS-TC - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:08:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 08C916545C - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:25 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 394AC652EA - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:21 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:03:21 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: Aldor and Axiom -Thread-Index: AcYx7mLKLdk6J1gTTQ6muH0miPUkuQAA3slA From: Bill Page To: Jay Belanger -Cc: list +Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:12 AM Jay Belanger wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page writes: > ... > >> Hmm. But aren't there some cases where you want this, like @@ -13610,7 +8073,7 @@ On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:12 AM Jay Belanger wrote: > > > > The phrase "real integer" is kind of dumb ... :) What other kinds > > of integers are there? ->=20 +> > Complex (Gaussian) integers? Isn't that sort of like saying "complex reals" (sic) are a @@ -13629,7 +8092,7 @@ l arguments involving only the integers and a finite number of steps. Kronecker is well known for his remark:- - God created the integers, all else is the work of man.=20 + God created the integers, all else is the work of man. Kronecker believed that mathematics should deal only with finite numbers and with a finite number of operations. He was the first @@ -13641,7 +8104,7 @@ the fathers of modern computer algebra. ;) So therefore I prefer to think that there is really only one kind of Integer. ->=20 +> > > I still firmly believe that Aldor is the best way forward. > > Given that everyone who has posted to the: > > @@ -13650,7 +8113,7 @@ kind of Integer. > > petition (including Steven Watt!) has been positive about the > > idea of making Aldor open source, I think we should just > > proceed based on that idea. ->=20 +> > Is it that clear that it will become open source? I am willing to bet on it. In fact I am seriously considering @@ -13659,8 +8122,8 @@ provisional license. See the thread on the axiom-legal list. > It may be that it just takes a while, but is it possible that > it's taking a while because there are roadblocks that we aren't -> aware of?=20 ->=20 +> aware of? +> Really, Aldor is "nearly" open source already. All you have to do to get access to the source code is to ask at aldor.org. @@ -13668,72 +8131,41 @@ Practically speaking, this means obtaining the approval of Steven Watt. So far as I know, no one who has asked has ever been denied access. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9H3j-0004PK-5l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9H3f-0004Nc-Jd - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9H3c-0004LC-Vd - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9H3c-0004Ky-Ld - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:36 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9H8T-0004SF-9c - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:31:37 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B9EAD65905 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:34 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3BE5565901 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:32 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:26:26 -0500 -Thread-Topic: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -Thread-Index: AcYxtVjfGieuUD+BQ76BvgmDrXk/RQAIfhMgAAo+1EA= From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list +To: Gianluca Gregori +Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris On Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:53 PM I wrote: ->=20 +> > I am also trying to build Axiom from the September 2005 tarball: ->=20 +> > http://axiom.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/DOWNLOADS/axiom > -Sept2005-src.tgz ->=20 +> > on Solaris 8 sparc (280R dual cpu) system. If I simply follow > the instructions of: ->=20 +> > ./configure > > ... And it I make the following sys/sockio.h patch to run_process.c during the Axiom build: -=20 ->=20 + +> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gcl-devel/2005-09/msg00002.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gcl-devel/2005-04/msg00001.html ->=20 +> > On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 07:43:40 -0500 Raymond Toy ->=20 +> > I tried building gcl cvs again on solaris yesterday. Everything > went smoothly, except run_process.c uses SIOCSPGRP. On Solaris, > this isn't defined unless you include sys/sockio.h I just added > that to run_process.c and it compiles up nicely. -> =20 +> then GCL builds just fine, but the Axiom build now fails at the following point (with no prior errors): @@ -13762,36 +8194,11 @@ bash-2.05$ Has anyone every built Axiom successfully on Solaris? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9IuV-00021g-4r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:25:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9IuQ-0001zl-1C - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:25:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9IuM-0001uw-5R - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:25:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9IuL-0001u4-8C - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:25:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9IzC-0005Rn-Vq - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:30:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1F9O53Y040071; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:24:09 +0100 (CET) +Date: 15 Feb 2006 10:25:59 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: The symbol 4 (was Re: Aldor and Axiom) - <43F1DC98.8060602@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Feb 2006 10:25:59 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -13840,36 +8247,11 @@ different results, but I tend to believe that these situations are rare, can be avoided with a well done library and do not justify giving up this help altogether. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JAK-0007NT-Bt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:41:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JAB-0007EK-1M - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:41:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JA8-0007Co-8K - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:41:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9J9S-0006h8-UG - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:40:47 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9JEK-0006z9-O7 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:45:49 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1F9bq3Y048287; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:37:54 +0100 (CET) +Date: 15 Feb 2006 10:39:46 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <43F1E233.7090804@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Feb 2006 10:39:46 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -13907,42 +8289,11 @@ functions, etc.), since this is currently missing, resp., not well solved in Axiom. This would also be in a sense quite independent of the implementation of other classes, so I suppose it should be done in Aldor. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Jjy-0000Qs-Gk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:18:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Jju-0000OY-2F - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:18:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JiK-0007le-UT - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:16:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Jep-0006HL-Ko - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:13:12 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Jjh-0001BO-Mj - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:18:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A2BC967E56 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:13:10 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DEAE667D8E - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:13:07 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: What is SubDomain (was: non extending category) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:13:10 -0500 -Thread-Topic: What is SubDomain (was: non extending category) -Thread-Index: AcYxoNt65tc0yL4ESQexUwSKf/fiRwAE+d+Q From: Bill Page -To: "Scott Morrison" Scott Morrison -Cc: list +To: Scott Morrison +Subject: RE: What is SubDomain (was: non extending category) Scott, @@ -13970,19 +8321,19 @@ It seems you remember than I do about the things I was doing > not categories. So PositiveInteger could share the all the > implementation code from Integer, but not the categories of > Integer, since they don't form a Group under addition, for -> example. In the end it caused a lot more work than it saved.=20 +> example. In the end it caused a lot more work than it saved. > In http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxNNI I have experimented with replacing: - =3D=3D SubDomain(Integer,#1 >=3D 0) add + == SubDomain(Integer,#1 >= 0) add ... in the code for NNI by just: - =3D=3D Integer add + == Integer add ... plus an explicit coercion from NNI to Integer and conversion @@ -13999,40 +8350,11 @@ If the automatic definitions of the two functions consequences of the SubDomain clause, then I guess I would have to agree. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JlK-0001L1-Mb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:19:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JlH-0001JL-R6 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:19:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JlG-0001Hn-0w - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:19:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9JlF-0001HB-BQ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:19:49 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Jq7-0001ji-BI - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:24:51 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FAJk5e008451 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:19:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:19:51 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Documentation bug? -Cc: axiom-dev Hi Bill, @@ -14071,36 +8393,11 @@ On 02/14/2006 08:27 PM, Page, Bill wrote: >> >> Very helpful! ;-) - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9K0b-0001xD-VL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:35:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Jyv-00010S-Gg - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:33:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9JyJ-0000aq-RN - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:33:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9JyC-0000S7-Bb - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:33:13 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9K34-0002jO-KB - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:38:14 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FAX85e008986 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:33:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:33:12 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom -Cc: list On 02/14/2006 09:38 PM, C Y wrote: > OK. Here's a link for the lazy (me in a few hours ;-) : @@ -14131,71 +8428,41 @@ The signature has been removed, since it is not always easy to provide an element at creation time of the domain. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KMw-0005Zm-SK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:58:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KKa-0003rJ-9G - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:56:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KKT-0003ov-3G - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:56:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9KCs-0000Mz-6g - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9KHj-0003wr-Ip - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:53:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 38105681FA - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:48:20 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 69697681FD - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:48:17 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Documentation bug? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:48:16 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Documentation bug? -Thread-Index: AcYyGV22gwcn9SART2C+FDa5J8vn/gAANlpA From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Documentation bug? Ralf, On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:20 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Maybe I should have been a bit more precise. I actually > already knew what )abbrev is for. I just forgot the syntax. No problem. ->=20 +> > As you see the first message tells me: ->=20 +> > Issue )abbrev? for more information. ->=20 -> And if I do that I get a not so helpful message. That was the=20 +> +> And if I do that I get a not so helpful message. That was the > bug I was referring to. I agree. I think is would be good to record such deficiencies as issue reports in the IssueTracker on the Axiom wiki. ->=20 -> Anyway, is there somebody who thinks that the abbreviation is=20 +> +> Anyway, is there somebody who thinks that the abbreviation is > vital to Axiom? (Well it is, because the generated NRLIB will > be created under that name.) Yes I do think they are essential to the way Axiom works at the present time. See more below. -> However, I somehow think that is a constraint of old where=20 +> However, I somehow think that is a constraint of old where > filenames could not be arbitrary long. Further, one then has > 2 identifiers in Axiom that refer to the same thing. @@ -14207,7 +8474,7 @@ For example I often write: 'POLY INT' instead of 'Polynomial Integer' (and I am sure I could think of more extreme cases where the abbreviations are useful). ->=20 +> > I believe such abbreviations could be achieved on a per > user basis. Simply put appropriate macro definitions in > your .axiom.input file. @@ -14217,8 +8484,8 @@ use, I worry that it might confuse or slow communications between more experienced users. For example if you defined the macros - P =3D=3D> Polynomial - I =3D=3D> Integer + P ==> Polynomial + I ==> Integer insist on writing 'P I' I would probably be confused until you explained your conventions. @@ -14246,40 +8513,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxNNI I think this name mangling is essential to the way Axiom performs function selection and calling. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KPB-0006DA-GZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:01:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KP0-0006B2-2a - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:00:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KOu-0006A5-58 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:00:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9KOp-00069a-Dw - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:00:44 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9KTh-0004xB-Q8 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:05:46 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FB0e5e010208 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:00:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:00:44 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: The symbol 4 (was Re: Aldor and Axiom) - <85mzgtug60.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On 02/15/2006 10:25 AM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -14330,77 +8568,23 @@ otherwise it would depend on the choice the interpreter makes. Well, that says programmers should make sure that any such diagram commutes. Maybe that should become a big convention for coercion functions in Axiom. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KVW-0008RT-7I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:07:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KVQ-0008Ke-B6 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:07:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KVL-0008Fl-9t - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:07:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9KVI-0008EP-9Z - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:07:25 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9KaB-0005X1-1H - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:12:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1FB7Kjh002578; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:07:20 -0600 +Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:07:20 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:07:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#268 )abbrev? with too little detail] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AbbrevWithTooLittleDetail/diff --- (2) -> )abbr domain XYZ domain must be followed by an alternating list of abbreviation(s) and name(s). Issue )abbrev? for more information. (2) -> )abbrev? Your argument list is not valid. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AbbrevWithTooLittleDetail#msg20060215050719-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9LOs-0007WS-TW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:04:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Kz4-00027A-Ka - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:38:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9KuI-0001OF-5J - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:33:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9KmX-0007oV-Ib - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:25:15 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9KrQ-00072D-Bc - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:30:16 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FBPB5e011293 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:25:11 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:25:15 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Documentation bug? -Cc: axiom-dev > I agree that the limitation on the length of the abbreviation > itself was constrained by the old file names. But there are @@ -14439,40 +8623,11 @@ any compilation follows the "full-name-priciple". I'll be quiet about )abbrev. It's not my main concern for now. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9LcQ-000383-6z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:18:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9LVV-0001F2-26 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:11:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9L8b-0004Ve-9V - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:48:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9L4E-0003jH-DU - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9L97-0008Gg-CY - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:48:33 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FBhR5e011923 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:43:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:43:32 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Hi Martin, @@ -14523,35 +8678,10 @@ to print something reasonable on the screen. Is this type builtin? Does somebody know of a cutpoint between SPAD compiler and the actual libraries? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9NLa-0000P8-Ep - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:09:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9NLV-0000NL-GZ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:09:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9NJ0-0007sU-4o - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9N3K-0004pm-8i - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:50:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9N8E-0004S4-8e - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:55:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9993F40F97 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:50:39 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1F9N3H-0001ma-JP - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:50:39 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 15 Feb 2006 14:50:39 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: My second compile command. Hello, @@ -14580,43 +8710,11 @@ Then how can I test my new package ? >> System error: Cannot rename the file #p"FACTFUNC.erlib" to #p"FACTFUNC.NRLIB". - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9NL4-00005P-3J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:09:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9N7A-0005Vz-FZ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:54:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9N6T-0005La-C4 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:54:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9N47-0004z2-7U - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:51:31 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9N91-0004bL-Bb - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:56:35 -0500 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FDpNxx006050; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:51:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB797F405; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:51:25 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FEdjS18196; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:39:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:39:45 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:19:51 +0100) Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30047.5040708@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Maybe I should have been a bit more precise. I actually already knew > what )abbrev is for. I just forgot the syntax. @@ -14673,31 +8771,10 @@ S2IZ0057 \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Nc4-0005R4-4D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:26:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9N1V-0004C4-RC - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:48:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9N0l-0003og-NK - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:48:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Mgq-0007FY-FB - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:27:28 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Mlj-0000DC-QJ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:32:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1FDKB3Y077664; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:20:14 +0100 (CET) +Date: 15 Feb 2006 14:22:04 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <43F1E233.7090804@hemmecke.de> <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Feb 2006 14:22:04 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -14751,39 +8828,11 @@ function to OUTFORM, you don't need it anyway :-) Without OUTFORM, you can print using the Lisp function "print". -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Nyc-0007A3-78 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Nq9-0002nB-Gw - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:41:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9NUw-0002zW-NZ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:19:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9NAk-0006Ry-K3 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:58:22 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.127] (helo=swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9NFe-0005dC-JM - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.37.58] (hemmecke@parrot.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.37.58]) - by swan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FDwKAe026023; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:58:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:58:19 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> - <85oe18zrib.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list >>Since there is no definition of "Integer" in that file, the compiler must >>know about that thing or it must look into integer.spad to find what Integer @@ -14873,39 +8922,11 @@ it prints just Type: Void but no other output. So in order to have a reasonable input/output behaviour on the Axiom command line, I should meet certain criteria. Is that written somewhere? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9OBv-0000xs-M6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9OAH-0006oJ-6d - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:01:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9O6h-0003Yv-Va - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:58:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9O48-0000sm-Tk - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:55:37 -0500 -Received: from [63.236.74.69] (helo=ureach.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9O93-0003pj-V7 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:00:42 -0500 -Received: from www21.ureach.com (www21.ureach.com [172.16.2.49]) - by ureach.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k1FEtZFx019051; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:55:35 -0500 -Received: (from nobody@localhost) - by www21.ureach.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA25382; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:55:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:55:35 -0500 -Received: from [130.246.135.176] by www21.ureach.com via HTTP; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:55:35 GMT -To: "Page, Bill" Bill Page -From: Gianluca Gregori +From: Gianluca Gregori +To: Bill Page Subject: re: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -Cc: list Thanks for reply. @@ -15073,41 +9094,18 @@ In practise, not able to build it. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. --GG - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9OTq-0002bV-SR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:22:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9OBd-0000UA-4u - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9OBP-0008Qm-TV - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9O9r-00061A-AD - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:01:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9OEm-0004II-6D - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:06:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1FExS3Y033209; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:59:30 +0100 (CET) +Date: 15 Feb 2006 16:01:21 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <43F1E233.7090804@hemmecke.de> <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> <85oe18zrib.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <43F3337B.6040800@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Feb 2006 16:01:21 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> > But as far as I know, for Aldor this situation was abstracted and there is now -> > a keyword for dealing with it, I believe it is "extend". -> +> > But as far as I know, for Aldor this situation was abstracted and +> > there is now a keyword for dealing with it, I believe it is +> > "extend". + > Right. If you look at the sources of libaldor it starts with > lib/aldor/src/lang/sal_lang.as and then lib/aldor/src/base/sal_base.as. > @@ -15124,9 +9122,9 @@ great! no. It is (scarcly..) described in "developernotes", I think. > > Without OUTFORM, you can print using the Lisp function "print". -> -> But how does the Interpreter show the result? Doesn't it rely on the fact that -> a domain satisfies CoercibleTo(OutputForm)? + +> But how does the Interpreter show the result? Doesn't it rely on the +> fact that a domain satisfies CoercibleTo(OutputForm)? yes. @@ -15153,43 +9151,11 @@ yes, this is what I'd expect. Well, not quite. I'd expect Type:MyInt... Look at outform.spad and out.spad. (I think the latter answers your question) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9P6Y-0005Td-Dz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:02:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9P6R-0005Pr-3e - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:02:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9P6O-0005O0-Pu - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9P6N-0005NZ-50 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:01:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9PBI-00023n-Nn - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:07:04 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1924A40F7B - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:01:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1FG3j6P022884 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:03:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1FG3jPP022883; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:03:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 15 Feb 2006 17:03:45 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: Re: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Feb 2006 17:03:45 +0100 Bill Page writes: @@ -15199,42 +9165,11 @@ I do. At the moment, I'm bit overloaded but I'm very interested to take on the build machinery. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Ptf-0001mF-8O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:52:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Psj-0000mp-4k - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:51:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Pqn-0006qQ-Al - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:49:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9PpZ-00052M-8g - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:48:41 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9PuV-0006ce-2p - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:53:47 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FGmZ5e029213 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:48:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:48:34 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30047.5040708@hemmecke.de> - <200602151439.k1FEdjS18196@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Hi Tim, On 02/15/2006 03:39 PM, root wrote: >> Maybe I should have been a bit more precise. I actually already knew @@ -15296,35 +9231,11 @@ it is used in several other places. Yes, but only experts can write such messages. Unfortunately, I am not one of those. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Q5i-0002e8-MY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:05:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Q5d-0002at-RZ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:05:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Q5Y-0002Yv-LX - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:05:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Q5X-0002YP-6J - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:05:11 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9QAT-00089d-73 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:10:17 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1FH0I3Y084756; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:00:21 +0100 (CET) +Date: 15 Feb 2006 18:02:12 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30F9B.9050700@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Feb 2006 18:02:12 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -15343,40 +9254,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: Note that the abbrevations are inaccessible in spad code. There are only for the interpreter, and I think that this is a good thing. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QDC-0008QD-4r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:13:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QD8-0008On-0f - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:13:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QD5-0008N3-Ee - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:13:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9QD5-0008Mp-6o - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:12:59 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9QI1-0000RG-9e - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:18:05 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FHCt5e030305 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:12:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:12:55 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <85u0b0r1wr.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-dev On 02/15/2006 06:02 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -15397,45 +9279,11 @@ On 02/15/2006 06:02 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: Aha! That sounds like they are really more or less like macro definitions. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QKZ-0006qV-W4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QKV-0006n6-SC - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9QKU-0006mB-1X - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9QKG-0006aM-IM - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:25 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9QPD-00017D-22 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:25:31 -0500 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FHKF4O001957; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:15 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EDC7F405; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:20:17 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FI8cV18269; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:08:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:08:38 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:48:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30047.5040708@hemmecke.de> - <200602151439.k1FEdjS18196@localhost.localdomain> - <43F35B62.8070508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Localization of software is not so easy. If I just take the above > mentioned file and translate it into German, I am sure that I will hate @@ -15468,43 +9316,11 @@ there are no experts. RUDAP... read, understand, document, and patch. in fact, being an "expert" is a bad thing when trying to write clear, informative error messages. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Qeu-0003kK-AC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Qeq-0003dG-Fw - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Qeo-0003ZK-AT - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Qen-0003Xc-Gz - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:37 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Qjk-0003ay-7Y - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:46:44 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FHfT5f006469; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1FE7F40E; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:41:29 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FITo118288; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:29:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:29:50 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Francois Maltey - Maltey on 15 Feb 2006 14:50:39 +0100) Subject: Re: My second compile command. -Cc: list > > >> System error: @@ -15516,44 +9332,11 @@ if the build fails the FACTFUNC.erlib remains. do you have write permisson on the FACTFUNC.erlib file? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RFn-0007mY-QJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RFk-0007iV-MR - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RFj-0007gS-7f - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9RFi-0007ff-PY - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:46 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9RKf-0007eq-Q2 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:24:53 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FIJiEX031893; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EDC7F407; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:19:44 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FJ82l18307; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:08:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:08:02 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:58:19 +0100) Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> - <85oe18zrib.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F3337B.6040800@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list >>Let us suppose the following scenario. I remove any file from src/algebra/ >>and any corresponding Makefile entry. Then I start compiling Axiom. Would I @@ -15563,45 +9346,11 @@ actually, it's pretty close. if you do )set mes auto on you'll see that even typing 1+1 causes algebra loading. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RIK-0001Nt-IM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RID-0001If-Ft - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RI9-0001GV-Eg - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9RI8-0001FN-Dp - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9RN5-00089c-FR - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:27:23 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FIMDvN000947; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1467F406; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:22:13 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FJAVT18311; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:10:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:10:31 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:58:19 +0100) Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> - <85oe18zrib.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F3337B.6040800@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Should I know debugsys? @@ -15611,44 +9360,11 @@ better backtrace information about a failure and i can single-step functions. it's the same as AXIOMsys only it's interpreted. it's not really intended for anything useful. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RMW-00068F-LW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RMS-00063u-9V - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RMM-0005yf-4D - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9RMK-0005yO-MO - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:36 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9RRH-0000OV-OM - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:31:43 -0500 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1FIQY9S003540; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569D7F415; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:26:34 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1FJEqE18315; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:14:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:14:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:58:19 +0100) Subject: re: Aldor and Axiom - <85irrhufj1.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F313E4.8030307@hemmecke.de> - <85oe18zrib.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <43F3337B.6040800@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > So in order to have a reasonable input/output behaviour on the Axiom > command line, I should meet certain criteria. Is that written somewhere? @@ -15673,38 +9389,11 @@ this is why you get different output if you do even though the underlying information is the same. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RuZ-00009M-EY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:01:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RuW-0008W3-R4 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:01:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9RuV-0008TL-2i - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:01:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9RuU-0008Sa-OT - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:01:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9RzR-0004B8-Ru - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:07:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE8440F79; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:01:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1F9RuS-0002Bh-6C; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:01:52 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey, list -Subject: Re: My second compile command. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> -From: Francois Maltey Date: 15 Feb 2006 20:01:52 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list +Subject: Re: My second compile command. Thanks a lot (Ralf and Tim) for your so quickly advice ! @@ -15716,10 +9405,6 @@ Thanks a lot (Ralf and Tim) for your so quickly advice ! 4/ Is there in axiom a lot of exemples in order to test if my change break nothing ? -Have a good day. - -Fran=C3=A7ois - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- After the first )co manip.spad command I have theses files : @@ -15733,109 +9418,53 @@ And I get no errors : --------constructor--------- Compiling TRMANIP.NRLIB/TRMANIP.lsp. -End of Pass 1.=20=20 -End of Pass 2.=20=20 -OPTIMIZE levels: Safety=3D0 (No runtime error checking), Space=3D0, Speed= -=3D3 +End of Pass 1. +End of Pass 2. +OPTIMIZE levels: Safety=0 (No runtime error checking), Space=0, Speed= +=3 Finished compiling TRMANIP.NRLIB/TRMANIP.lsp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - TranscendentalManipulations is now explicitly exposed in frame=20 - frame0=20 + TranscendentalManipulations is now explicitly exposed in frame + frame0 TranscendentalManipulations will be automatically loaded when needed from /home/fmy/Atelier/axiom/TRMANIP.NRLIB/code -At the second compilation=20 +At the second compilation > do you have write permisson on the FACTFUNC.erlib file? Yes this DIRECTORY is rw for me. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9T4T-0002MG-RP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:16:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9T3M-0000Lq-PE - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9SuV-000355-My - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:06:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9SsJ-0001eF-JN - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:03:43 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9SxH-00011p-Kq - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:08:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4E9B8690F8 - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:03:42 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D9298690DE - for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:03:38 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:03:54 -0500 -Thread-Topic: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris -Thread-Index: AcYyYgrfvDVkcJTqR42SP2LCcKzeVgACCnJw From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: axiom did not compile on sparc solaris Gaby, On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:04 AM you wrote: > Bill Page writes: ->=20 +> > | If you have some experience with using autoconf ->=20 +> > I do. Excellent! We definitely need your help... :) > At the moment, I'm bit overloaded but I'm very interested -> to take on the build machinery.=20 ->=20 +> to take on the build machinery. +> I would be glad to work with you and to try to help where I can provided that you can take the lead and get things started... of course, whenever you are able. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Vgn-0008Hx-Qq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Qe1-0002J5-Ng - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:40:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9Qdy-0002Dr-U9 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:40:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Qdx-0002CX-HJ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:40:45 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9Qit-0003Tz-PQ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:45:52 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1FHeP5e031457 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:40:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:40:21 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: My second compile command. -Cc: list - -Hi, > >> System error: > Cannot rename the file #p"FACTFUNC.erlib" to #p"FACTFUNC.NRLIB". @@ -15844,109 +9473,13 @@ I had a similar error yesterday. Just quit Axiom and remove the files FACTFUNC.erlib and FACTFUCT.NRLI. Then restart axiom and compile again. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9YVc-0003W8-Dd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:04:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9YVY-0003Oa-JQ - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:04:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9YVV-0003JG-EX - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:04:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9YVU-0003HI-NT - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:04:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9YaW-0002jD-82 - for list; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:09:44 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1G24ejh029516; - Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:04:40 -0600 -From: MathAction (unknown) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:04:40 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Found Objects] aphthasol - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects/diff --- - I bookmark your site. 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February 2005 works, for example. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9erR-0003jQ-Gd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:51:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9erN-0003ff-F2 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:51:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9erK-0003cp-Vo - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:51:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9erI-0003af-HE - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:51:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9ewN-0006ZF-T2 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:56:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1G8p73Y083962; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:51:08 +0100 (CET) +Date: 16 Feb 2006 09:53:01 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: My second compile command. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek24xx7j.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Feb 2006 09:53:01 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -16025,39 +9532,13 @@ I'll return a template pamphlet which you will be able to adapt. Thanks a million times for your effort! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9f1I-000273-Vt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:01:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9ezR-0007rS-3J - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:59:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9ezG-0007aa-1Z - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:59:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9eyz-00079S-Uu - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:59:26 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9f45-0007DC-Bv - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:04:41 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1G8x93Y087913; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:59:11 +0100 (CET) +Date: 16 Feb 2006 10:01:04 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30047.5040708@hemmecke.de> - <200602151439.k1FEdjS18196@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Feb 2006 10:01:04 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > > Maybe I should have been a bit more precise. I actually already knew > > what )abbrev is for. I just forgot the syntax. @@ -16106,46 +9587,17 @@ or if parameters are missing (:-( )what synonyms to determine is abbreviations is a valid name. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9iXH-0004FO-3W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:47:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9iOE-0002Ae-Jj - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:37:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9ht3-000393-A9 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:06:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9hWW-0007r3-UV - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:42:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9hbd-0005XU-VU - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:47:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C8540FCC; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:42:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1F9hWU-0001fM-Pt; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:42:10 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey, list -Subject: Re: print or output in packages. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <85zmkrwv4a.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Francois Maltey Date: 16 Feb 2006 12:42:10 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list +Subject: Re: print or output in packages. Hello everybody ! I learn a lot with all your mails. -I use to add a lot of spy-print in mysterious functions.=20 +I use to add a lot of spy-print in mysterious functions. So I add print or output lines as bellow in a test, but I can't compile. In an *.input file I have no problem with output. @@ -16156,14 +9608,14 @@ I try the easiest print, with or without coerce ::, with or without $. output (1::OutputForm)$OutputPackage -- or print ("num::OutputForm"::OutputForm)$PrintPackage -- print ("num::OutputForm")$PrintPackage --- output "den::OutPutForm"=20 +-- output "den::OutPutForm" -In the manip.spad file there are num and den that I try to print=20 +In the manip.spad file there are num and den that I try to print (in kerexpand about line 790) - num :=3D numer arg - den :=3D denom arg + num := numer arg + den := denom arg They are perhaps of type : SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R, Kernel $) @@ -16174,46 +9626,20 @@ They are perhaps of type : SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R, Kernel $) Now I get error as : -$x:=3D (output (:: (One) (OutputForm))) -$m:=3D NoValueMode -$f:=3D +$x:= (output (:: (One) (OutputForm))) +$m:= NoValueMode +$f:= ((((|den| #) (|num| #) (#:G227562 #) (#:G227561 #) ...) ((|simplifyLog1| #)= - (|logArgs| #)) ((|logArgs| #) (|#| # #) (< # # #) (<=3D # # #) ...))) -=20 + (|logArgs| #)) ((|logArgs| #) (|#| # #) (< # # #) (<= # # #) ...))) + >> Apparent user error: NoValueMode is an unknown mode -Thanks a lot. - -Fran=C3=A7ois - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9jeQ-00049c-4B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:58:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9jEh-0006Ae-0M - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:31:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9igQ-0006tp-6T - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:56:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9iR7-0003Dt-Qj - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:40:42 -0500 -Received: from [68.168.78.202] (helo=mta10.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9iWF-0001vo-JH - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:45:59 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta10.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060216124039.KAES13051.mta10.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:40:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:40:34 -0500 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: groebner? Could someone tell me if this is wrong; or if it's right why? @@ -16237,83 +9663,11 @@ Type: List HomogeneousDistributedMultivariatePolynomial([p,Vr,Vt,e],Polynomial Integer) ----------------------------- -Ray - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kBD-0004p3-Ih - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:32:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9k0v-0001bl-T4 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:21:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9ju6-0007vL-1E - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:14:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9jRf-0000CR-2D - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:45:19 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9jWn-0007Co-FC - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:50:37 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1GDirjh030109; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:44:53 -0600 -From: MathAction (unknown) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:44:53 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Found Objects] atarax - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects/diff --- - Yea, good stuff bro! Will sure visit again. http://atarprod.info atarax --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects#msg20060216074449-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kjC-0001Q4-9I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:07:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kHt-0008QZ-Ff - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:39:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kEn-0006Fk-4b - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:36:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9kBc-000525-76 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:32:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1F9kGg-00011d-0W - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:38:02 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9kB8-0004nj-32 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:32:18 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1GEVobI003718; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:31:50 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A69F7F404; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:31:50 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1GFK9j18967; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:20:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:20:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - on 16 Feb 2006 10:01:04 +0100) Subject: Re: Documentation bug? - <43F30047.5040708@hemmecke.de> - <200602151439.k1FEdjS18196@localhost.localdomain> - <85y80bu17z.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list > > > Maybe I should have been a bit more precise. I actually already knew > > > what )abbrev is for. I just forgot the syntax. @@ -16411,147 +9765,55 @@ i'm willing to help but YOU have to code changes YOU care about. thought he was being arrogant at the time but now i realize he was just very busy) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9keO-0006qV-D8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:02:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kKG-00015r-QS - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:41:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9jty-0007ql-Gr - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:14:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9jhp-0004xx-5x - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9jmx-0008Ly-Nw - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:07:19 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1GE1qSb014807; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:01:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC2F7F408; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:01:52 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1GEoBM18952; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:50:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:50:11 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - on 16 Feb 2006 09:44:37 +0100) Subject: Re: My second compile command. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <85zmkrwv4a.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - > > > > >> System error: > > Cannot rename the file #p"FACTFUNC.erlib" to #p"FACTFUNC.NRLIB". -> Since I modify spad code quite a lot, I know this message well. I didn't get -> round to write a bug report, though. -> -> It happens always when a compile succeeds and you want to compile a second time -> (since you modified the source code, for example) -> +> Since I modify spad code quite a lot, I know this message well. I +> didn't get round to write a bug report, though. + +> It happens always when a compile succeeds and you want to compile a +> second time (since you modified the source code, for example) + > It did not occur in earlier releases. February 2005 works, for example. I compile frequently and have never seen this message. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kyO-0000AH-KH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:23:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kqJ-0005tD-PH - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:14:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9kkE-0002Im-51 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:08:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9kgO-0007g9-Pz - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:04:37 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9klX-0004PX-U0 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:09:56 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1GF4ajh008072; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:04:36 -0600 +Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:04:36 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:04:36 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FAQ] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FAQ/diff --- - -++added: - 1. **How can I contribute code to Axiom?** Look at AxiomDevelopment. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FAQ#msg20060216090436-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9lAH-0004FM-PS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:35:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9l5H-0002rU-5F - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:30:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9l4K-0002Cw-PI - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:29:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9kyX-0000C1-1k - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.23] (helo=smtp8.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9l3g-0005zd-CW - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:28:40 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AAD61C001D0 - for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:23:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-41-4.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-41-4.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.195.4]) - by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1FA411C001FE; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:23:16 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: My second compile command. -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <43F36785.3000603@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> +\start Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:23:42 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: My second compile command. Hi, Le mercredi 15 f=E9vrier 2006 =E0 18:40 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > Hi, ->=20 +> > > >> System error: > > Cannot rename the file #p"FACTFUNC.erlib" to #p"FACTFUNC.NRLIB". ->=20 +> > I had a similar error yesterday. > Just quit Axiom and remove the files FACTFUNC.erlib and FACTFUCT.NRLI. > Then restart axiom and compile again. -You don't have to quit and restart axiom, just remove=20 +You don't have to quit and restart axiom, just remove FACTFUNC.NRLIB Cheers, @@ -16560,50 +9822,15 @@ Greg PS : It's really annoying -> Ralf ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9mc4-00026z-4i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:08:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9mT3-00047w-IE - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:58:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9mRI-0002Cg-OZ - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:57:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9mOY-0000sB-5U - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:54:18 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9mTi-0005Zb-E6 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:59:38 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1GGrnQC008380; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:54:08 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey, Tim Daly -Subject: RE: My second compile command. +\start Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:53:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey, Tim Daly +Subject: RE: My second compile command. On February 16, 2006 3:45 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > > > > >> System error: > > > Cannot rename the file #p"FACTFUNC.erlib" to @@ -16632,40 +9859,11 @@ http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-09/msg00045.html This might be another case that was not caught. -Regards, -Bil Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nbC-00005X-CL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:11:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nTs-0004jM-EQ - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:03:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nO2-00011P-2f - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:57:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9nGP-0004Uz-Oo - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:49:58 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9nLa-0002QO-8l - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:55:18 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1GHiY3Y044488; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:44:37 +0100 (CET) +Date: 16 Feb 2006 18:46:29 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: print or output in packages. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <85zmkrwv4a.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87k6bvttrh.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Feb 2006 18:46:29 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -16709,47 +9907,11 @@ Then )tr TRMANIP )ma will catch calls to kerexpand too. Of course, adding statements like output(bla:OutputForm)$OutputPackage can be more effective if you already know roughly what should be happening. -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nnS-0006zU-9U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:24:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nnQ-0006y0-Aa - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:24:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9nnN-0006wZ-Fk - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:24:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9nOk-0001bH-FU - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:58:34 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9nTv-0003Wh-8g - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:03:55 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1GHwTw6020852; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:58:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-20-127.zoominternet.net [72.23.20.127]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE9C7F416; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:58:29 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1GIknL19062; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:46:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:46:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Francois Maltey - Maltey on 16 Feb 2006 12:42:10 +0100) Subject: Re: print or output in packages. - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <85zmkrwv4a.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87k6bvttrh.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list in the top of the algebra files after the initial signature you'll usually see macros defined. add the line: @@ -16762,37 +9924,11 @@ then, in the function add: and you will see the output printed when the function is called. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9oH0-0000Yt-N4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:54:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9oGu-0000Wi-1P - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:54:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9oGq-0000Ua-UN - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:54:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9oGo-0000TD-AY - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:54:27 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9oLz-0008If-Nn - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:59:47 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1GIs4dE027490; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:54:20 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:53:53 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Raymond Rogers Subject: RE: groebner? -Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:53:53 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer' Ray, @@ -16844,57 +9980,21 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/GroebsolSpad http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/LingrobSpad http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/PgrobnerSpad -Regards, -Bill Page. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9obq-0001iT-OR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:16:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9obl-0001f0-Cv - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:16:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9obh-0001aY-9n - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:16:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9obf-0001Z1-7q - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:16:00 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.126] (helo=smtp18.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9ogq-0001gm-Ne - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:21:21 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1808.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F0EE370000AF - for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:15:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-92-235.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-92-235.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.89.235]) - by mwinf1808.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AAD570000A9; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:15:57 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: print or output in packages. +Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:16:24 +0100 From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem To: Francois Maltey - <200602151829.k1FITo118288@localhost.localdomain> - <85zmkrwv4a.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87k6bvttrh.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain> -Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:16:24 +0100 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: print or output in packages. Hi, I use print("I am here")$Lisp -and=20 - num :=3D numer arg +and + num := numer arg print (num::OutputForm) - den :=3D denom arg + den := denom arg print (den::OutputForm) @@ -16902,97 +10002,56 @@ For the error 1 is a function and it's difficult (i don't know how) to coerce it (I have previously spoken of this with Bill Page and I don't really understand why). - - -Cheers, - -Greg - -Le jeudi 16 f=E9vrier 2006 =E0 12:42 +0100, Francois Maltey a =E9crit : > Hello everybody ! ->=20 +> > I learn a lot with all your mails. ->=20 -> I use to add a lot of spy-print in mysterious functions.=20 +> +> I use to add a lot of spy-print in mysterious functions. > So I add print or output lines as bellow in a test, but I can't compile= . ->=20 +> > In an *.input file I have no problem with output. ->=20 +> > I try the easiest print, with or without coerce ::, with or without $. ->=20 +> > output ("a string"::OutputForm)$OutputPackage > output (1::OutputForm)$OutputPackage > -- or print ("num::OutputForm"::OutputForm)$PrintPackage > -- print ("num::OutputForm")$PrintPackage -> -- output "den::OutPutForm"=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> In the manip.spad file there are num and den that I try to print=20 +> -- output "den::OutPutForm" +> +> +> In the manip.spad file there are num and den that I try to print > (in kerexpand about line 790) ->=20 -> num :=3D numer arg -> den :=3D denom arg ->=20 +> +> num := numer arg +> den := denom arg +> > They are perhaps of type : SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R, Kernel $) ->=20 +> > 1/ How can I print theses variables ? > 2/ What function must I use : print or output ? > What is the difference between. ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Now I get error as : ->=20 -> $x:=3D (output (:: (One) (OutputForm))) -> $m:=3D NoValueMode -> $f:=3D +> +> $x:= (output (:: (One) (OutputForm))) +> $m:= NoValueMode +> $f:= > ((((|den| #) (|num| #) (#:G227562 #) (#:G227561 #) ...) ((|simplifyLog1= -| #) (|logArgs| #)) ((|logArgs| #) (|#| # #) (< # # #) (<=3D # # #) ...))= +| #) (|logArgs| #)) ((|logArgs| #) (|#| # #) (< # # #) (<= # # #) ...))= ) -> =20 +> > >> Apparent user error: > NoValueMode > is an unknown mode ->=20 -> Thanks a lot. ->=20 -> Fran=E7ois ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9onk-0007TS-22 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:28:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9olv-0003nq-8X - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:26:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9ol9-0002KD-KO - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:25:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9ojZ-0007nU-40 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:24:12 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9ook-00029y-HO - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:29:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1GJMd3Y067933; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:22:41 +0100 (CET) + +\start +Date: 16 Feb 2006 20:24:34 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: groebner? -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Feb 2006 20:24:34 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Raymond Rogers writes: @@ -17013,8 +10072,8 @@ probably confusing. > 3 2 3 2 > (24) ((- Vr + Vr )Vt + Vr - Vr )p ->From this output you can deduce that ((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2) is interpreted -as coefficient and p as variable... +>From this output you can deduce that ((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2) is +interpreted as coefficient and p as variable... Thus the output of @@ -17026,46 +10085,15 @@ Is correct, in some sense. Although I agree that it is confusing. Try eq1H := (((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2)*p) :: HDMP(list,INT) -instead. You need the parentheses, because otherwise Axiom will coerce only p -to a HDMP, and eq1H will be of type POLY INT - -Martin - - - +instead. You need the parentheses, because otherwise Axiom will coerce +only p to a HDMP, and eq1H will be of type POLY INT \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9owP-0007tR-R4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:37:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9onn-0007YR-AN - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:28:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9on6-0006J6-Kp - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:27:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9omE-0004L6-Pq - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:26:54 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.197] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9orQ-0002LO-L9 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:32:16 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t10so180721wxc - for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:26:53 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=b5Zuezn6YNemyDPq1QAoSywDly/zOnNRz6Su6ZmVqaNkPBMoX8frZNPXt20uTD8tnpheTcxPcWMBWDt6EoQt2xiPJs2oxScR5ioxXeSGmksKuj9bkzhF0oyb7L5swD8+zNhgxM8GwUrCFa+E/Jt3nCKnj6DrcFv04NOC7sf9Lk0= -Received: by 10.70.43.19 with SMTP id q19mr41336wxq; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:26:53 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.131.8 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:26:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:26:53 -0800 -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: list - boundary="----=_Part_3010_21051014.1140118013548" Subject: Hyper doc search error -------=_Part_3010_21051014.1140118013548 - Hello, With a clean install from arch I run into some mirror pb while trying to us= @@ -17083,48 +10111,11 @@ Where should I look to fix the problem for future install ? Thanks Antoine Hersen -------=_Part_3010_21051014.1140118013548 - -Hello,

    With a clean install from arch I run into some mirror pb whil= -e trying to use the search facility in Hyperdoc.

    mnt/linux/bin/htsea= -rch does not have the exuctable bit set.
    mnt/linux/lib/presea does not h= -ave the exuctable bit set too. -

    And presea shabang is #!/bin/awk but on Debian it should be #!/usr/= -bin/awk

    Does the probleme come from some config files ?
    Where sho= -uld I look to fix the problem for future install ?

    Thanks
    Antoine= - Hersen -
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On February 16, 2006 6:42 AM Francois Maltey wrote: > @@ -17188,39 +10179,10 @@ See for example: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxManip -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9pp4-0004iz-H4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:33:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9pp1-0004hP-BM - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:33:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9poz-0004gD-1j - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:33:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9poy-0004g2-Ce - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:33:48 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9puA-0007Um-Og - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:39:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FB64F3C2; - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:33:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1F9pov-0002He-FZ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:33:45 +0100 -To: list, Francois Maltey -From: Francois Maltey +\start Date: 16 Feb 2006 21:33:45 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: about Expression Integer Hello, @@ -17267,40 +10229,11 @@ I will be very happy if you can give me your advice, and tell me if one or an other way of computation is impossible/not natural/too complex with axiom. -Have a good day. - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9rAy-0001Xn-Di - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:00:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9r8O-0006jT-F2 - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:57:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9r7v-0006BA-0Z - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:57:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9r4K-0003mo-Nr - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:53:45 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1F9r9X-0004Ri-Eu - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:59:07 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1GLrb5e019748 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:53:38 +0100 +\start Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:52:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: groebner? -Cc: Axiom-Developer Hi Ray, @@ -17308,50 +10241,50 @@ I think that is correct. However, I guess, you are asking AXIOM to do the wrong thing. HDMP(X, R) represents the polynomial ring R[X]. In your case R is -"Polynomial Integer". If you look up "Polynomial" in Hyperdoc, you will=20 -find that this is a domain that allows any symbol as a variable and=20 -Integers as coefficients. Roughly speaking, it is Z[Y] (where Y is a=20 +"Polynomial Integer". If you look up "Polynomial" in Hyperdoc, you will +find that this is a domain that allows any symbol as a variable and +Integers as coefficients. Roughly speaking, it is Z[Y] (where Y is a infinitely set of variables). -If the groebner routine is given something of the form Z[Y][X] where=20 -Z[Y] is the coefficient domain then the result has to be interpreted in=20 -Z(Y)[X] (the fraction field of the coefficients ajoint with the=20 +If the groebner routine is given something of the form Z[Y][X] where +Z[Y] is the coefficient domain then the result has to be interpreted in +Z(Y)[X] (the fraction field of the coefficients ajoint with the variables from the set X). -Unfortunately, in the way you coerce your polynomials X is a subset of=20 -Y. In other words the polynomial eq1H lies in the ring of coefficients=20 +Unfortunately, in the way you coerce your polynomials X is a subset of +Y. In other words the polynomial eq1H lies in the ring of coefficients and is therefore a constant. Well, computing a Gr=F6bner basis of a non-zero constant always gives the= -=20 + ideal generated by 1. So I would have expected [1] as an output. But [p] = -is also correct, since p is an element of Z(Y) and, therefore,=20 -invertible. p generates the same ideal as 1 and that is equal to the=20 +is also correct, since p is an element of Z(Y) and, therefore, +invertible. p generates the same ideal as 1 and that is equal to the whole ring Z(Y)[X]. -You see, be careful with Polynomial(Integer). The interpreter is not as=20 -smart as you may wish in this case. However, you could help by adding=20 +You see, be careful with Polynomial(Integer). The interpreter is not as +smart as you may wish in this case. However, you could help by adding the right types. -list: List(Symbol) :=3D[p,Vr,Vt,e] -eq: HDMP(vars, INT) :=3D ((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2)*p +list: List(Symbol) :=[p,Vr,Vt,e] +eq: HDMP(vars, INT) := ((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2)*p groebner [eq] -The result is the same as [eq] which is to be expected if you just give=20 +The result is the same as [eq] which is to be expected if you just give one polynomial. Ralf On 02/16/2006 01:40 PM, Raymond E. Rogers wrote: > Could someone tell me if this is wrong; or if it's right why? ->=20 +> > ------------------------- -> list:=3D[p,Vr,Vt,e] -> eq1H:=3D((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2)*p :: HDMP(list,POLY INT) ->=20 +> list:=[p,Vr,Vt,e] +> eq1H:=((-Vr^3+Vr^2)*Vt+Vr^3-Vr^2)*p :: HDMP(list,POLY INT) +> > Excerpt from an axiom session: ->=20 +> > (24) -> eq1H > (24) -> > 3 2 3 2 @@ -17366,153 +10299,22 @@ eger) > HomogeneousDistributedMultivariatePolynomial([p,Vr,Vt,e],Polynomial Int= eger) > ----------------------------- ->=20 -> Ray - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9srr-0005Gr-DS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:48:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9srm-000589-2f - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:48:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1F9srj-00055E-EN - for list; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:48:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9srg-000546-Ky - for list; 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- Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:09:09 -0500 + +\start Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:09:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (message from Antoine Hersen on Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:26:53 -0800) +From: Tim Daly +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error -Cc: list > mnt/linux/bin/htsearch does not have the exuctable bit set. > mnt/linux/lib/presea does not have the exuctable bit set too. @@ -17530,36 +10332,11 @@ over where awk lives. i'm open to suggestions about how to fix this. -Tim - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14l-0004OZ-If - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14i-0004Lc-De - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14g-0004Iz-As - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA14d-0004IE-1s - for list; 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I think that devising a really good expression domain is very complex. Although I must say that I like MuPAD's very much. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14u-0004UW-Jk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:35:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14s-0004UH-R8 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA14q-0004TR-QG - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA14q-0004SW-05 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:34:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FA1A9-0002o7-An - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:40:25 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1H8Z7jh006836; - Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:35:07 -0600 +Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:35:07 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:35:07 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomOutputFormatting] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomOutputFormatting/diff --- - -??changed: -- --From kratt6 Fri Dec 9 06:09:28 -0600 2005 --From: kratt6 --Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:09:28 -0600 --Subject: --Message-ID: <20051209060928-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org> -- --You have to say In this particular case you have to say -++added: - Here are some more detailed explanations: How can I affect the way Axiom displays its results? @@ -17809,40 +10547,12 @@ So, the conclusion is that you might want to write a function first that takes easy to make this into a new domain "MyExpression". I vaguely recall that Maxima has such a function. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomOutputFormatting#msg20060217023507-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA3As-0003s5-Iw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:49:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA39r-0003Hj-Na - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:48:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA30Z-000866-Uc - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:38:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA2xk-0006X7-OA - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:35:45 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FA335-0003c1-AC - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:41:15 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1HAZfjh022520; - Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:35:41 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:35:41 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:35:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#269 some issues with the 'Factored' domain] - (nouveau) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/269SomeIssuesWithTheFactoredDomain/diff --- Consider the following: \begin{axiom} q:FR POLY INT := (x-1)*(x^2+1) @@ -17870,103 +10580,33 @@ I tested this and found it not to be true. Note that the domain was written alre Martin --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/269SomeIssuesWithTheFactoredDomain#msg20060217043532-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA5Bx-0003SD-Ni - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:58:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA3Ht-0005TW-EM - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:56:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA39C-0002vG-VZ - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:47:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA33D-0000gy-88 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:41:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FA38X-00049s-Ny - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:46:54 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1HAfKjh023299; - Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:41:20 -0600 +\start +Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:41:20 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:41:20 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#269 some issues with the 'Factored' domain] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/269SomeIssuesWithTheFactoredDomain/diff --- - -??changed: --The documentation says: -- --Others, like addition require somewhat more work, and unless the argument domain provides a factor function, the result may not be completely factored. The documentation says:: Others, like addition require somewhat more work, and unless the argument domain provides a factor function, the result may not be completely factored. -??changed: --Another issue is raised by the documentation to 'expand: % -> R': -- --'expand(f)' multiplies the unit and factors together, yielding an "unfactored" object. Note: this is purposely not called 'coerce' which would cause the interpreter to do this automatically. Another issue is raised by the documentation to 'expand: % -> R' :: expand(f) multiplies the unit and factors together, yielding an "unfactored" object. Note: this is purposely not called 'coerce' which would cause the interpreter to do this automatically. - ---removed: -- - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/269SomeIssuesWithTheFactoredDomain#msg20060217044120-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA5Cr-0003c7-HH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:59:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA4Ft-0000u2-HT - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:58:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA4Bx-00006O-MY - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:55:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA3bu-0002m0-4G - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:17:15 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.198] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FA3hF-00078N-3s - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:22:45 -0500 -Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o25so251658nfa - for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:17:12 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=uHDwGVRpgtR8tV1f0IwEovwYg15O9uFaqYP51rolc5QCs7wlnI/nRijgiM6zVBQ4ryjs0nc9BrcutREFHkAlsixUZosR+snJX69Oqcy+Y0p41b2Ghhh8JrfjNQx+9GxddEdbowcyOCQ4OseydWK3LFwnBKV3TwX5BN8vqbW037A= -Received: by 10.48.226.13 with SMTP id y13mr404060nfg; - Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:15:02 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:15:02 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:15:02 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error - <200602170509.k1H599K19329@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Hello Tim, -2006/2/17, root Tim Daly: +2006/2/17, Tim Daly: [ about the correct path to awk binary ] > i'm open to suggestions about how to fix this. @@ -17984,9 +10624,9 @@ Axiom project to reuse it under Axiom's BSD-like license. #!/bin/sh # Find a program in the path -IFS=3D':' +IFS=':' for dir in $PATH; do - if test -z "$dir"; then dir=3D.; fi + if test -z "$dir"; then dir=.; fi if test -f $dir/$1; then exit 0; fi done exit 1 @@ -18014,9 +10654,9 @@ a modified searchpath that does this : #!/bin/sh # Find a program in the path and prints its location if found -IFS=3D':' +IFS=':' for dir in $PATH; do - if test -z "$dir"; then dir=3D.; fi + if test -z "$dir"; then dir=.; fi if test -f $dir/$1; then echo $dir/$1; exit 0; fi done exit 1 @@ -18028,8 +10668,8 @@ It should be used like this: # do we have awk? echo -n "Looking for awk... " -awk_path=3D`./searchpath awk` -if [ $? =3D=3D 0 ]; then +awk_path=`./searchpath awk` +if [ $? == 0 ]; then echo "found: $awk_path"; else echo "not found"; @@ -18039,41 +10679,11 @@ else fi -I hope it helps, -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FABkj-0000mr-03 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:58:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA8tI-0003FD-J7 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:55:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FA86E-0007Is-QP - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:04:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA5YE-0006g8-Dw - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:21:36 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FA5da-0008HU-0P - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:27:06 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1HDJiaY002551 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:19:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:19:44 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error - <200602170509.k1H599K19329@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Tim, @@ -18115,36 +10725,12 @@ On 02/17/2006 06:09 AM, root wrote: > > i'm open to suggestions about how to fix this. > -> Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FACZ7-0002Pe-4a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:50:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FABNa-0004m8-Vr - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:34:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAAmG-0005KH-Oa - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:56:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FA6zL-0008IW-H9 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:53:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FA74i-0007wL-Hs - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:59:12 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1HErADR001596; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:53:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page + +\start +Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:52:56 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Hyper doc search error -Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:52:56 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On February 17, 2006 12:09 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > ... @@ -18167,39 +10753,11 @@ Axiom, then ./configure would take of these details. Gaby said recently that he was interested in working on this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAFR4-0005hm-OH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:54:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAFQX-00054f-J4 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:54:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAFM2-00037H-HY - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:49:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAEzh-0007B7-W7 - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:26:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAF5A-00013H-3S - for list; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:32:12 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1HNQ712004479; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:26:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Francois Maltey'" Francois Maltey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:25:51 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 16, 2006 3:34 PM Francois Maltey wrote: > ... @@ -18376,39 +10934,13 @@ this idea in more detail. I hope this is some help. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAOMP-00021C-V4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:26:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAOML-000202-So - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:26:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAOMF-0001yd-8C - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:26:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAOMC-0001yJ-4C - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:26:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FAORj-0003pd-UI - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:32:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1I9Pj3Y024003; - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:25:47 +0100 (CET) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Martin Rubey Date: 18 Feb 2006 10:27:42 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > There are however more complex domains which do include expressions of the > same form as you wrote above. The interpreter is not able to find these @@ -18456,40 +10988,12 @@ variables are separated, i.e., when the coefficients contain variables a,b,c,... and the variables of the polynomial are x,y,z. This is clearly not the case above. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FATZ1-0007bh-1d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:59:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FASvY-0006ot-ML - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:19:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FASXa-0002hr-W4 - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:57:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FARdd-0002La-RQ - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:56:38 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FARjD-0000wa-Iq - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:02:23 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1ICuYjh030930; - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:56:34 -0600 +Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:56:34 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:56:34 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] (new) integrating UTS -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- - Update of bug #10350 (project axiom): Status: None => transferred @@ -18499,48 +11003,11 @@ integrate((1/y)::UTS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),z) => integrate((1/x)::UTS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),x) integrate((1/y)::UTS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),z) - - _______________________________________________________ - -Reply to this item at: - - - -_______________________________________________ - Message sent via/by Savannah - http://savannah.nongnu.org/ - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060218-075617.sv12157.100@savannah.nongnu.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FATkx-0002xc-Ml - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:12:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FATXE-0007AU-Ng - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:58:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FASwB-00077y-J5 - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:19:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FASja-0004X2-99 - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:06:51 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FASpA-0006Dh-DP - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:12:36 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1IE6O73022006; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:06:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer +\start Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:06:06 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 18, 2006 4:28 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -18656,97 +11123,21 @@ is necessary to remain focused on the domain to which a given expression belongs. This is one of the features that distinguishes Axiom from more "primitive" computer algebra systems. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAUsl-0001Fr-Vp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:24:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAUsg-0001Cr-EF - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:24:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAUsd-0001Ab-Js - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:24:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAUs2-0000lu-5T - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:23:42 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAUxd-00077i-4E - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:29:29 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1IGNfjh001528; - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:23:41 -0600 +Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:23:41 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:23:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Where do variables belong?] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WhereDoVariablesBelong/diff --- - -??changed: --I think that this is calling for "trouble":http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=10350. There are two ways to fix this: -I think that this is calling for trouble, see issue #270. There are two ways to fix this: +I think that this is calling for trouble, see issue #270. There are +two ways to fix this: --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WhereDoVariablesBelong#msg20060218102341-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAV8v-0007cY-Fl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:41:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAV8J-0006u4-Ja - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:40:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAV3R-0004HZ-W2 - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:36:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAV3N-0004Gk-C6 - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:35:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAV8y-0007oP-8d - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:41:12 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1IGZQjh004580; - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:35:26 -0600 -From: MathAction (Bill Page) -To: MathAction +\start Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:35:26 -0600 -Cc: +From: MathAction (Bill Page) +To: MathAction Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] (new) integrating UTS -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- - -??changed: -- -- --From BillPage Sat Feb 18 06:56:34 -0600 2006 --From: Bill Page --Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:56:34 -0600 --Subject: (new) integrating UTS --Message-ID: <20060218-075617.sv12157.100@savannah.nongnu.org> -- -- --Update of bug #10350 (project axiom): -- -- Status: None => transferred --Example of code trigerring the bug: integrate((1/x)::UTS(FRAC POLY INT, x, --0),x) --integrate((1/y)::UTS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),z) => integrate((1/x)::UTS(FRAC --POLY INT, x, 0),x) Originally Savannah bug 10350. Example of code trigerring the bug: @@ -18760,23 +11151,6 @@ Result:: UnivariateTaylorSeries(Fraction Polynomial Integer,x,0) Variable z -\begin{axiom} - -??changed: -- -- -- _______________________________________________________ -- --Reply to this item at: -- -- -- --_______________________________________________ -- Message sent via/by Savannah -- http://savannah.nongnu.org/ -- -\end{axiom} - The first bug is an indication that '1/x' should not be of type 'UTS(x, FRAC POLY INT)', 'UP(x, FRAC POLY INT)' and so on. The second is an indication that QFCAT should have a function @@ -18827,43 +11201,12 @@ So your examples do not illustrate the problem about mixed up variables. In fact, it supports use of towers like 'UTS(EXPR INT, x, a)'. -William (William Sit) - - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060218103526-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAVcP-0002Kn-7B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:11:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAVcH-0002CR-FS - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:11:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAVcC-00025P-4q - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:11:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAVbR-0001UZ-Ej - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:10:37 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAVh2-0001tD-6c - for list; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:16:24 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1IHAcjh009896; - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:10:38 -0600 +\start +Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:10:38 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:10:38 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] not a bug -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- The result is a series: \begin{axiom} integrate((1/x)::ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),x) @@ -18878,39 +11221,11 @@ a coefficient, but in a simpler domain they will cancel: %::FRAC POLY INT \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060218111037-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAo0p-0002ve-DL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:50:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAnqC-0008Un-Kf - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:39:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAnh0-0006mV-SB - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:29:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAnQs-0004du-SB - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:12:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAnWg-0007XR-Ab - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:18:54 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1JCCqiK006076 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:12:52 +0100 +\start Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:37:02 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list >> 1/ Can I (or cannot) remain Expressions as >> @@ -18984,40 +11299,11 @@ a/x yields also a completely correct output. ;-) However, I guess, most people find this confusing. -Ralf - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAoIA-0006S6-Ny - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:07:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAoEl-0005n5-Jl - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:04:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAnza-0002O5-Dc - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:49:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAnQq-0004dn-Iu - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:12:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FAnWe-0007X7-4Q - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:18:52 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1JCCliK006070 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:12:48 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:36:35 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list > Conversions and coercions are very important in Axiom because > they allow you to find equivalent members of other domains that @@ -19025,45 +11311,13 @@ Cc: list Is there a big difference between "conversion" and "coercion"? -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FArd7-0002Jz-76 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FArca-00023z-DC - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAra1-0001N7-Fd - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:39:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FArRc-0007JU-7H - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:29:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FArXS-0000MD-89 - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:35:58 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8AD40E25; - Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:29:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1JGVP6P010359; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:31:26 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1JGVPUJ010358; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:31:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Feb 2006 17:31:25 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On February 17, 2006 12:09 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: | > ... @@ -19099,43 +11353,11 @@ boxes. I'm also curious as to what extent the autoconf/automake machinery will blend with Axiom's pamplet style. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FArtT-00070z-OA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:58:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FArtP-0006z2-F3 - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:58:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FArsJ-0006dh-Bh - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:57:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FArja-00043o-IG - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:48:34 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FArpQ-0001Wy-Qn - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:54:32 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1JGmNev004067; 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- Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:22:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:22:33 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:36:35 +0100) Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43F77743.9000400@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list coercions are automatically applied. conversions are not. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtq8-00021r-TH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:03:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtpJ-0001pJ-Ky - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:02:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtb9-0007ZO-Cj - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:47:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAtTt-0005uO-Cp - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FAtZk-0002vS-IP - for list; 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I don't think it would be too much work. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtv9-0003Po-3x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:08:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtrW-0002Sh-2S - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:04:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAtpp-0001xm-Cl - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:03:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAtoK-0001gG-TA - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:01:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FAtuC-0004Yb-CM - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:07:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B238340E22; - Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:01:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FAtoH-0001su-Jc; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:01:29 +0100 +Date: 19 Feb 2006 20:01:29 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: Francois Maltey, list Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 19 Feb 2006 20:01:29 +0100 -Cc: Hello ! @@ -19647,124 +11727,19 @@ Why DMP doesn't accept OrderedSet but only List Symbol ? 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In fact, I sometimes wonder whether it makes sense to distinquish the coefficient domain in the case of Expressions. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAwLL-0006Oc-FZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:43:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAwLJ-0006Mb-5u - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:43:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FAwLH-0006Kn-JP - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:43:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAwLG-0006JV-IH - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:43:42 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FAwR9-0000TI-GW - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:49:47 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1JLh33Y049785; - Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:43:06 +0100 (CET) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Martin Rubey Date: 19 Feb 2006 22:45:03 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > > > In other words, consider the following example: @@ -19973,37 +11922,11 @@ he doesn't realize that she wanted to compute something else... I think that this is a very nice idee. I guess this could be even realized on text terminals, couldn't it? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB1sC-0006wR-RV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:38:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB1s9-0006rp-R2 - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:38:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB1s7-0006nw-K5 - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:38:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB1ry-0006dB-2p - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:37:50 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FB1xu-0003a4-KN - for list; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:43:58 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1K3bOSH000823; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:37:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Francois Maltey'" Francois Maltey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:37:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Francois, @@ -20196,55 +12119,26 @@ this domain and possibly extend it in various ways. I hope that in spite this email is too long, perhaps it is some use to you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB7qq-0002y0-4q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:01:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB7qk-0002vl-Af - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:00:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB7qO-0002pX-Fz - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:00:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB7ib-00082L-UK - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:52:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FB7oc-0006t4-4E - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:58:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE5D4F3EA; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:52:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FB7iZ-0001c4-Rr; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:52:31 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey, list -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Francois Maltey Date: 20 Feb 2006 10:52:31 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -"Bill Page" Bill Page propose : +Bill Page propose : ((***)) > There may be some situations, such as in the Axiom interpreter > where you might wish to warn the user about the sometimes > unexpected consequences of domains that allow this. -I agree with this,=20 +I agree with this, For students and I a lot of problems are about : << You think that 2 objects are identical if their writing are identical. >> -The 2 way to read the x is logical when we think as axiom,=20 -but is a trap for students who use computer algebra for solving=20 +The 2 way to read the x is logical when we think as axiom, +but is a trap for students who use computer algebra for solving a mathematical exercice. > But really it is very simple and easy to predict. The problem @@ -20253,78 +12147,49 @@ a mathematical exercice. > systems. But almost all my student use derive or maple or a TI-9? for little -computation, and during their mathematical studies they don't learn=20 -object programming. So it's impossible to say :=20 +computation, and during their mathematical studies they don't learn +object programming. So it's impossible to say : << learn axiom from the emptyset. >> -I like mupad because easy computation was easy to type,=20 +I like mupad because easy computation was easy to type, but difficult idea can be done with clever idea about Domains. -I hope that axiom should have the same point of view.=20 +I hope that axiom should have the same point of view. I don't like maple which have very often wrong results because it's impossi= ble -to have type : In maple the fact that 0.0 =3D 0 gives very surprising resul= +to have type : In maple the fact that 0.0 = 0 gives very surprising resul= t. So I prefer explain mupad that axiom to my student, because if I don't have this error I can do a more difficult exercice. > I could imagine that some innocent looking -> computation would not be correct in the situation above.=20 +> computation would not be correct in the situation above. As Martin I already imagine this error : -P :=3D DMP ([x,y], EXPR INT)=20 -a :P :=3D x=20 -b :=3D a/x=20 +P := DMP ([x,y], EXPR INT) +a :P := x +b := a/x differentiate(b,x) -- 1/x differentiate(b+x,x)@EXPR INT -- 0 I find it's a wonderful idea ((***)) to have an error or a warning during -b :=3D a/x. It's really possible ? -=20 +b := a/x. It's really possible ? + Bill, I don't want to change all the axiom language ;-) it's the _only_ trap I see in the interpeter. The other computation are logical for students in mathematics. ;-) And if a student can understand the coefficient function, he can understand why it's a silly computation to type monomial (x, [0,0]...) -Bill you think it's must remain possible, why not.=20 - -Have a good day ! - -Fran=C3=A7ois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBABF-0004VV-Cg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:30:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB9jq-0008WE-Fa - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:01:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FB9WV-0006ET-Qs - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:48:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB9MH-0004MQ-Hs - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:37:38 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FB9SI-0007d1-J8 - for list; 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Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:41:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBEr3-000393-L8 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:29:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBEqz-00036e-Hu - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:29:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBEoK-00020t-Ne - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:26:57 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBEuP-0007Gt-AX - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:33:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1KHQRsD030838; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:26:43 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Francois Maltey'" Francois Maltey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:26:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 20, 2006 4:53 AM Francois Maltey wrote: @@ -20831,46 +12639,11 @@ bad the situation is with some of these other systems! What might seem silly in some situations might be sensible in other situations. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFDE-0002FN-Rb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:52:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFD9-0002Df-TM - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:52:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFD5-0002D2-8L - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:52:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBEc3-0006yF-Jy - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:14:16 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBEi7-0005yA-0O - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:20:32 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320B240F45; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:14:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1KHFd6P015229; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:15:40 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1KHFdV4015228; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:15:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 20 Feb 2006 18:15:39 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43F9A7EA.3000002@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Feb 2006 18:15:39 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -20908,36 +12681,11 @@ Why Java instead of CLOS? The current trend in programming is some heavy or displcaed emphasis on generic programming. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFaY-0002mI-Br - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:16:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFV8-00014g-H8 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:11:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBFTS-0000OF-OV - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:09:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBFP1-0006lY-U1 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:04:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBFV7-0002sc-1o - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:11:09 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1KI4IKV003629; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:04:34 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:04:15 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Hyper doc search error -Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:04:15 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On February 19, 2006 11:31 AM Gaby wrote: @@ -20972,39 +12720,11 @@ test for notangle (and build noweb if necessary) during ./configure so that one can use notangle to extract the Makefile.in templates etc. from the distribution pamphlet files. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBGJJ-00030L-7e - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:03:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBGJF-0002yr-Pd - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:02:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBGJC-0002xJ-DN - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:02:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBGJC-0002x7-5v - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:02:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBGPH-0007t0-MH - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:09:11 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1KJ2S45016851; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:02:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:02:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 20, 2006 12:57 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -21177,42 +12897,11 @@ programming language designers. Define 'pure' ... ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBGUr-000865-Qp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:14:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBG4s-0006MW-RE - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:48:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBG4N-00067N-41 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:47:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBFHb-0003xS-CC - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:57:11 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBFNg-0001pI-1m - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:03:28 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1KHv0iK011381 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:57:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:57:09 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - -Cc: list Hallo Gaby, @@ -21293,89 +12982,26 @@ Aldor several years ago. BTW, I don't say that Aldor hasn't some kind of object-orientation, but it is in my opinion not a pure object-oriented language. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBH45-0005J3-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:51:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBH3c-0004WJ-Rq - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:50:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBH34-0003YE-Fu - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:50:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBH1C-0000KS-1C - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.31] (helo=smtp11.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBH7H-0003tg-VN - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:54:40 -0500 -Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (mwinf1104 [172.22.142.26]) - by mwinf1110.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6F9991C0D223 - for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F0C01C000AF - for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-84-147.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr - [86.199.39.147]) - by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3C6FA1C000A5; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FBH1Z-0001TK-89; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:45 +0100 +Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:45 +0100 +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> -From: David Mentre -Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:45 +0100 - (Tim Daly's - message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:36:40 -0500") -Cc: list Hello Tim, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > my long term plan is to push almost everything into ansi common lisp > and use asdf. What is asdf? This asdf: http://www.cliki.net/asdf ? -Best wishes, -d. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHEE-0000cP-8L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHEC-0000Xl-BB - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHEA-0000U4-IL - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBHEA-0000TF-8b - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBHKG-0004qK-5Z - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:08:04 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1KK1GLg012477; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:33 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:01:13 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 20, 2006 6:29 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -21567,41 +13193,11 @@ equality 'a=b' can be properly evaluated. Notice that in Axiom '=' is also an operator and we need to know the domain which provides this operation. -> ... - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHSl-0002UT-5C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHSi-0002SQ-1N - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHSf-0002QP-HQ - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBHSf-0002Q9-4K - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:45 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBHYl-00062E-Fb - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:23:03 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1KKGGmC025858; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:34 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:16:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 19, 2006 4:45 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -21678,49 +13274,11 @@ output (really a function of the underlying lisp - GCL, I guess) supports 'curses'. Do you think suport for these conventions in text output are really that important? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHVf-0004sP-9h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHVd-0004oG-1V - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHVa-0004kl-L6 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBHVZ-0004ir-Gs - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:45 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBHbf-0006HU-Sa - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:26:04 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1KKJMWB003505; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938797F412; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:19:22 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1KL7YY29658; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:07:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:07:34 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:45 +0100) Subject: Re: Hyper doc search error - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> -Cc: list > > my long term plan is to push almost everything into ansi common lisp > > and use asdf. @@ -21751,53 +13309,15 @@ you'll see axiom listed. this is all being managed by the lisp gardener's group. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHza-0006ys-F4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:50:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHzO-0006IO-1v - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:50:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBHwY-00018d-Oy - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:47:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBHvh-0008JI-VK - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:46:47 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.27] (helo=smtp4.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBI1o-0008OV-E1 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:53:04 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 28A131C0022B - for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:46:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-84-147.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr - [86.199.39.147]) - by mwinf0406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E011C1C00229; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:46:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FBHwB-0001VP-La; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:47:15 +0100 -To: Tim Daly -Subject: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search - error) - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> -From: David Mentre Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:47:15 +0100 - (Tim Daly's - message of "Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:07:34 -0500") -Cc: list +From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly +Subject: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search error) Tim, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: >> What is asdf? This asdf: http://www.cliki.net/asdf ? > @@ -21823,47 +13343,11 @@ machinery. If you agree I'll take the job. -Best wishes, -d. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIA0-0007gf-OQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:01:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBI9X-0006tE-W8 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:01:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBI9U-0006jK-Qo - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:01:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBI96-000673-D6 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:00:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBIFC-0000sy-Sy - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:06:55 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9675240ED0; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:00:33 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1KL216P016144; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:02:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1KL21Ji016143; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:02:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 20 Feb 2006 22:02:01 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43F9A7EA.3000002@hemmecke.de> - - <43FA02F5.9090208@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Feb 2006 22:02:01 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -21972,76 +13456,20 @@ My view is that debates of "pure" are meaningless as far as productive system building is concerned. So, I will stop here. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIAe-0000PT-Vv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:02:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIAc-0000Kn-Jh - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:02:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIAa-0000Fx-7b - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:02:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBIAZ-0000FW-I6 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:02:07 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBIGg-0000xo-67 - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:08:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1KL27jh022071; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:02:07 -0600 +Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:02:07 -0600 From: MathAction (DavidMentre) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:02:07 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [build Axiom] new method to download from CVS - works - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom/diff --- - -++added: +Subject: [build Axiom] new method to download from CVS works ->From DavidMentre: it works (the "export" is probably not needed). Should I modify the top of the page? +>From DavidMentre: it works (the "export" is probably not + needed). Should I modify the top of the page? - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom#msg20060220150207-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIOY-0006wd-AP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIOS-0006qf-FZ - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBIOP-0006nE-6p - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBIOO-0006mH-Io - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:24 -0500 -Received: from [209.226.175.54] (helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBIUV-000263-BQ - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:22:43 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([65.95.175.119]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net - (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id - <20060220211614.DPRD20622.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]>; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:14 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:12 -0500 From: Doug Stewart To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43F9A7EA.3000002@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Wow!!! I have been watching and learning Axiom for the last two months, @@ -22054,45 +13482,13 @@ Could someone in the know take some material from this thread and use it in the manual? I know that just reading this has opened my eyes. -Doug Stewart - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBITm-0007DC-KQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:21:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBITk-0007AR-ME - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:21:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBITj-000790-Du - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:21:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBISr-0005vy-Mq - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:21:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBIYy-0002Or-Gd - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:27:20 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055B640E23; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:20:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1KLMR6P016200; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:22:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1KLMR27016199; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:22:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 20 Feb 2006 22:22:27 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On February 20, 2006 12:57 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: | > @@ -22184,48 +13580,11 @@ an excuse of why I did not push for them :-). The linguistic construct I found the most useful in Aldor is "post facto extension". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBJz1-0004Vs-3V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBJyz-0004VI-7o - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBJyy-0004UU-6B - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBJyx-0004Ti-JN - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:15 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBK55-0002tP-Cd - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:04:35 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1KMwCdf010056; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2947F408; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:58:12 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1KNkO629704; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:46:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:46:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - on Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:47:15 +0100) -Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search - error) - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search error) > Would you accept (or at least not be opposed to ;) a hand-written > ./configure shell script? It would find the basic tools (awk, noweb, @@ -22304,33 +13663,7 @@ build process. I won't go into the details of 3 hours of talking but for every example there appears to be a counter-example and for every rule there is an exception. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBKdP-000460-7Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:40:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBKdI-0003zV-CD - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:39:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBKdD-0003sO-2c - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:39:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBKdC-0003rX-HW - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:39:50 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.193] (helo=web31713.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBKjK-0006Ok-0B - for list; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:46:10 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6593 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2006 23:39:01 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=olQDA778ek5MmoNmCKppE5Jn6ab/foOC2+x/DTp8Dotsf97D/nkdImwcjCUcI2vp9JpoSSFKV2Mb1RgPWmV7yPp/ZkFvMpNICuYONbOsZc2/NVK3Vuk8G+8YnicTXlojAnSchNakxYhYaQgIQVfPAOhvGhmogjUhWgNEURCSkBs= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:39:01 PST Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -22365,39 +13698,7 @@ I'm going to finish a unit and dimension implementation before I even think about tackling something that crazy, but I figured if it's a really Nutty idea I should find out now ;-) -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Should I modify @@ -22864,54 +13834,19 @@ David Mentre wrote: Yes, please go ahead and update the contents of this page with the most recent information. If you have the time and motivation, please re-organize it so this information is easier to find. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom#msg20060220220529-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBSMc-0002Iv-PT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:55:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBSLW-0000ha-Dc - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:54:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBSL8-0000bh-PI - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:54:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBSL6-0000aU-32 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.203] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBSRJ-0000xp-69 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:00:05 -0500 -Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l23so755637nfc - for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:53:38 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=MRqayI5kDrZDHG7tFVWZtNfMaxxGJoFJKIsktuO24X0QqdAYJ7KgI/wmdBF2q11PZORWKEl0Gl853tnFmPDbe9rX+gAImpZcSdsPcW54f66LMS6s9U1Xh9yyypFiBJhPYEB49x0f5X8XZoYkAX0RA1tGDBIL8wJr/g9TfbfjQrM= -Received: by 10.48.3.15 with SMTP id 15mr1433494nfc; - Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:53:38 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:53:38 -0800 (PST) + +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:53:38 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search - error) - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search error) Tim (and al.), Thank you for the comments and summary of the build process. I'll keep it in mind. -2006/2/21, root Tim Daly: +2006/2/21, Tim Daly: > > If you agree I'll take the job. > > Ummm, that's reversing the approval path methinks. If your solution @@ -22934,39 +13869,12 @@ And I should underline that I believe more in consensus than everything else. So the final build system will probably be a mix between Bill's ideas, mines and yours. :-) -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVMq-00060K-Hj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:07:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVIS-0005do-CE - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:03:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVEk-0004CW-M7 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:59:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVCL-0001SD-DD - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:56:50 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVIa-0000m0-6E - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:03:16 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1LAuUjh025294; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:56:30 -0600 +Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:56:30 -0600 From: MathAction (hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:56:30 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial/diff --- The use of \begin{axiom} R := Expression Integer @@ -23052,39 +13960,11 @@ it will convert both summands of $d$ to $R$ and as such they are, of course, equ d::R \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial#msg20060221045554-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWkH-0003CS-Bc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:35:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWMS-000265-MO - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:11:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVzy-000181-VW - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:48:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVm8-0000XT-MH - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:33:51 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVsN-0003rY-Mv - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:40:16 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBXgiK021650 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:33:42 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:33:54 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list >> UnivariateFreeRing2( >> R : Join(ArithmeticType, ExpressionType), @@ -23127,38 +14007,11 @@ code will look terribly complicated if it incorporates the conditions on R and RX, S and SX. Yes, JAVA generics are allowed. (Well, I shut up, that is not a mailing list about JAVA.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXYz-0002rX-HE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:28:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWw3-0005WD-IH - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:48:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWnP-0003nk-Ud - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:39:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVWz-000806-7T - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:18:12 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVdE-0002aA-7Z - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:24:36 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBI5iK020242 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:18:06 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:26:29 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list >> Martin Rubey wrote: >>> I could imagine that some innocent looking computation @@ -23209,40 +14062,11 @@ documented. It is, however, not so clear where to do this. I suggest there should be a note in DMP rather than the category PartialDifferentialRing (where the signature comes from). -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXmG-0004HJ-FZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:42:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBX6e-0007kf-L6 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:59:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVi2-0000JE-MG - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:29:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVZI-0008Ja-Gp - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:20:33 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVfW-0002kp-Ji - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:26:59 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBKLiK020475 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:20:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:05:11 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - -Cc: list On 02/20/2006 10:02 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23300,44 +14124,11 @@ quiet. ;-) Right. I'll also stop. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXYZ-0002oU-NC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:27:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWrc-0004QH-81 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:43:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWbZ-0002bx-3c - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:27:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBW3w-0001Hj-8p - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:52:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBWAB-0005gU-Je - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:58:39 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A348740F5A; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:52:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LBrZ6P019132; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:53:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LBrZvm019131; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:53:35 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 21 Feb 2006 12:53:35 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 21 Feb 2006 12:53:35 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23345,38 +14136,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: The distinction is largely syntactic, not fundamental. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXeY-0003Xl-7C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:34:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBWm8-0003Zg-HA - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:37:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBVze-00016c-3I - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:47:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVaC-0008Kn-Vv - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:21:33 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVgR-0002oO-Lc - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:27:56 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBLQiK020590 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:21:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:21:39 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list > Just curious: The syntax: > @@ -23408,38 +14172,11 @@ http://www.aldor.org/docs/HTML/chap6.html#5 You probably agree that it is somehow a good thing that the Aldor compiler adds a bit of syntactic sugar for such constructions. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBYfQ-0002cm-S4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:39:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXHa-0000y0-EE - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:10:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBX9l-0008LJ-Rd - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:03:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVX2-00080A-Bg - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:18:13 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVdH-0002aN-9V - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:24:39 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBI7iK020248 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:18:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:54:03 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list Hello Bill, @@ -23485,42 +14222,11 @@ maybe wrap them with something like ExpressionTree. To be honest, I haven't really thought about that, because I am lacking some expertise here. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBYwD-00052d-1M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:56:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBY8J-0006qN-Uv - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:04:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXAe-0008UT-0W - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:03:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBWLW-00023P-WD - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:10:26 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBWRk-0007IF-Uf - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:16:49 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A566840F6C; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:10:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LCBi6P019174; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:11:44 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LCBiRj019173; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:11:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 21 Feb 2006 13:11:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 21 Feb 2006 13:11:44 +0100 Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -23576,47 +14282,11 @@ You can have a look at Generic Haskell and PolyP for how and what it takes to get a first approximation of categorical datatypes in a programming language. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZDm-00086U-CB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:14:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBYlY-0003c0-G6 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:45:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBXda-0003Pw-FY - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:37:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBW7R-0001RA-9p - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:55:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBWDg-0005tC-GW - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:02:16 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC654F3D5; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:55:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LBvC6P019138; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:57:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LBvCon019137; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:57:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 21 Feb 2006 12:57:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: about Expression Integer - <43F9A7EA.3000002@hemmecke.de> - - <43FA02F5.9090208@hemmecke.de> - - <43FAF3E7.6030008@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 21 Feb 2006 12:57:12 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23661,38 +14331,11 @@ is a parameter database or a global database is largely irrelevant. What is relevant is the structure it exposes both interface and overridable functions. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBa6u-0003uM-3O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:11:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZqr-0008IK-Qx - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:54:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZ3D-0006NK-20 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:05:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVZ9-0008JU-KG - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:20:25 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVfO-0002kF-87 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:26:50 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBKLiK020471 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:20:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:59:09 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list Hello Bill, @@ -23702,40 +14345,12 @@ Hello Bill, I haven't found "vectorize". Which function do you mean? -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBb0Q-0000v6-0P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:08:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBb0K-0000tn-6D - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:08:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBb0H-0000sW-0C - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:08:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBaBh-000582-3k - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:16:29 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBaHy-0004kJ-Uh - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:22:59 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1LGGQjh012901; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:16:27 -0600 +Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:16:26 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:16:26 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#268 )abbrev? with too little detail] )help ? - does not work, but )abbreviations ? does! +Subject: [#268 )abbrev? with too little detail] )help ? does not work, but )abbreviations ? does! -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AbbrevWithTooLittleDetail/diff --- \begin{axiom} )abbr domain XYZ \end{axiom} @@ -23755,40 +14370,18 @@ However, as shown below, ')abbrev ?' seems really not to have documentation, but )help ? \end{axiom} -Comparing this with the NAG version, ')what commands', ')help abbreviations', and ')abbreviations ?' behave the same, but ')help help' and ')help ?' both print out about three pages of information, including two Sections A.12. )help, and A.1. Introduction from the "on-line version of the book". So there probably wasn't any documentation on ')abbreviations' to begin with. But ')help ?' should have worked. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/268AbbrevWithTooLittleDetail#msg20060221101621-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZcU-00043t-1w - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:40:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZRM-0001nu-Ot - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:28:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBY2l-00069y-11 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:03:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBWDF-0001iU-Gp - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:01:51 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBWJU-0006JU-SF - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:08:17 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LC1fiK024066 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:01:41 +0100 +Comparing this with the NAG version, ')what commands', ')help +abbreviations', and ')abbreviations ?' behave the same, but ')help +help' and ')help ?' both print out about three pages of information, +including two Sections A.12. )help, and A.1. Introduction from the +"on-line version of the book". So there probably wasn't any +documentation on ')abbreviations' to begin with. But ')help ?' should +have worked. + +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:01:53 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: 1: % > | The problem is the "1: %" as a constant (not a nullary function). @@ -23803,39 +14396,11 @@ is that b() will run a program which might side-effect other things or even return something different each time. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZna-0007IT-4I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:51:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZjX-0006Em-JB - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:47:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZQY-0001eo-9F - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:31:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBY69-0006b4-OA - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:02:39 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.183] (helo=web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBYCQ-00084i-BY - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:09:06 -0500 -Received: (qmail 46291 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2006 14:02:36 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=JxwJgcpTEcXhWsatvgksfy0ZxiOuoAeXjtAxHhveIk+DMHMj1nsAn4+1d8a1lBe7HIrcXWm+oN+0Pqs3MFbDyYU/Xb1EgIGHj46Ejh/ONqGcWZ9gN2c5N+8rhKm5aoBHLZ93dZOs0eno9kenDpS0YkTbXg8Y//cOVsg2upGRrII= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:02:36 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - +Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -23910,44 +14475,11 @@ OK, I'll take a look. Thanks! Do you mean an implementation of categorical datatypes on top of a language or the datatypes as part of the language definition? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbGD-000475-QT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:25:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBa4h-0003eg-HT - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:09:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZUV-0002EU-AZ - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:33:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBVZA-0008JW-OD - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:20:26 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBVfP-0002kJ-H4 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:26:51 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LBKMiK020479 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:20:22 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:08:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list Hello Bill, @@ -23966,39 +14498,11 @@ See http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial ;-) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbd3-0000hl-4L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:48:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbbN-00006U-Vi - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:47:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbVK-0007DA-Uc - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:41:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBZCC-0007rP-8S - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:12:56 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBZIS-0006A8-FG - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:19:25 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LFCniK000348 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:12:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:13:01 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list >> differentiate(p: %,v: OV) == >> multivariate(differentiate(univariate(p,v)),v) @@ -24017,33 +14521,7 @@ should it do something else than differentiate with respect to the only being a function with finite support from the natural numbers to the coefficient ring. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbvk-0004aO-Fp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:08:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBb2l-0001EL-N6 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:11:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZjz-0006MN-R4 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:47:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBZjS-0006DJ-8j - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:47:18 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.187] (helo=web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBZpj-000233-Su - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:53:48 -0500 -Received: (qmail 71592 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2006 15:47:16 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=cKd6nIK14gJf2xHIDImpn373a0WlT8UfcVCQV6cZXkfmoKHKyCJHLoaleOA7nMTTwZK3hoQ7n11lY1fpYA3RqWXMarDs2elqnsNcTOyn8DnJjfqdE1czu9Tgfs1Pv6isPLJC9DhhVSxeU7H03DuHh6feMHnAdaeGjbIWQCAmkyQ= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:47:16 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:47:16 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -24051,36 +14529,10 @@ Subject: Interesting possibility for Axiom+graphviz http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-graphviz/ -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbP0-00063r-7P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:34:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBaBc-00056i-O6 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:16:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBaBY-00055M-0B - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:16:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZWc-0002cn-B1; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:34:03 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FBZct-0000Nr-KU; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:40:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1LFWi3Y015456; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:32:50 +0100 (CET) -To: axiom-dev , axiom-mail -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 21 Feb 2006 16:34:46 +0100 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: list Subject: [ANN] Workshop 2006 @@ -24121,9 +14573,7 @@ with a special focus on will take place at the RISC institute near Linz from Thursday, May 4 to Saturday, May 6. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- - +---------------------------------------------------------------------- Axiom is a Computer Algebra System with a long tradition. It recently became free software. See http://www.axiom-developer.org. @@ -24148,8 +14598,6 @@ accommodation and meals themselves. There is a limited number of rooms available in Hagenberg for approximately 26 EUR/night. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- - Apart from a crash-course in Axiom/Aldor, the following talks are planned: @@ -24158,7 +14606,7 @@ Ewgenij Gawrilow polymake - experimenting with discrete geometric structures -Nicolas M. Thi=E9ry +Nicolas M. Thiery Implementing Algebraic Combinatorics - @@ -24174,8 +14622,6 @@ Carsten Schneider ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- - Organisers: Ralf Hemmecke Martin Rubey @@ -24183,35 +14629,11 @@ Organisers: Ralf Hemmecke Email: Martin Rubey - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcYz-0004P8-SV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:48:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZr6-0008Mt-KL - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:55:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBYuD-0004qM-8a - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:57:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBXgu-0003iD-D1 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:36:33 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBXnA-0005lk-Qg - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:43:01 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LDa8mQ016697; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:36:25 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Doug Stewart'" Doug Stewart -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:36:01 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Doug Stewart +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 20, 2006 4:16 PM Doug Stewart wrote: > @@ -24306,42 +14728,11 @@ I think one gift that a lot of us working on Axiom would hope to receive some day is the contributions of new people who are willing and able to work on the Axiom documentation. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcqp-0008Oy-0c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:07:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbtF-0003xo-4P - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:05:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbrS-0003WY-Uc - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:04:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBZiB-0005t9-Fk - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:46:00 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.190] (helo=web31710.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBZoT-0001vS-4A - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:52:29 -0500 -Received: (qmail 240 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2006 15:45:58 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=QVHH8RzD1fuzab9DskfvuR6LmqbJuXH3Spc+Wcf5kEsF/7IbpS5u9qQRm7vdGJDmomP/7WpKeZ73M2jqrGlYr0hBv68pY45DtCHGHFsejdBhPl1ZUeT9HS/p1w/Iiiuo9SUpMU1sliKAvI4e20EIwvjDL/F+120ieGX2WAICRkM= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31710.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:45:58 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:45:58 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... To: Bill Page -Cc: list - +Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -24459,42 +14850,11 @@ Actually, I guess the units package is kind of at fault for this train of thought, not just for the language definition issues but for making me read up on groups. ;-) -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I agree. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcsG-0000cv-1T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:08:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbvM-0004Un-9y - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:07:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBboB-0002nx-Ke - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBatg-0008U3-31 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:01:56 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBazy-0000VC-BP - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:08:26 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LH1Sbn005844; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:01:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:01:21 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Ralf, @@ -24688,47 +15020,10 @@ convoluted. I am not saying necessarily that it does not have to be this complicated, but certainly we would all benefit greatly if this could be clearly and completely documented. -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcCq-0008Ij-0x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:25:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBc8H-00076p-7f - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:21:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbK7-0004su-7O - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:29:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBb1k-00019S-32 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:10:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBb82-00019l-KS - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:16:46 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095EA4F3FD; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:10:04 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LHBc6P020266; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:11:39 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LHBc9b020265; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:11:38 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> - - <43FB0131.9060102@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 21 Feb 2006 18:11:38 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: 1: % Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -24748,38 +15043,11 @@ yes, if the body of b() is defined so. But not all b() are affected by that artifact. But it is not a fundamental or intrinsic distinction that would have to cary to other languages. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdDl-0007lw-Ay - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:30:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbR8-0006Ns-7J - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:36:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBaeC-0006bM-Ph - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:46:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBYWD-00015p-K3 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:29:36 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBYcU-0002Cl-Jt - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:36:02 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([141.155.143.72]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IV100HA8K97BFK8@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:29:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:30:01 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer To: Francois Maltey -Message-id: <43FB23E9.BFFB6C20@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer Francois Maltey wrote: > @@ -24799,37 +15067,11 @@ Francois Maltey wrote: Please see SandBoxPartialFraction. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdQg-00043E-NS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:44:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcsU-0000hs-6r - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:08:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcGd-0000g2-Na - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:29:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBaKg-0008Nr-53 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:25:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBaQy-0005Wn-86 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:32:16 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LGPLRf011706; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:25:37 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'David MENTRE'" , Tim Daly -Subject: RE: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc - searcherror) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:25:15 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: David Mentre, Tim Daly +Subject: RE: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search error) On February 21, 2006 2:54 AM David Mentre wrote: @@ -24874,45 +15116,11 @@ anyway. And GCL already uses autoconf to configure the build of lisp that is embedded in the standard (non-Debian) Axiom distribution. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdZb-00084t-2h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:53:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcwh-0001xL-VF - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:13:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbZh-0008D7-66 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:46:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBaxC-0000V8-JZ - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:05:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBb3V-0000nZ-3Q - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:12:05 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E6C4F3D5; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:05:23 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LH6v6P020262; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:06:57 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LH6vqY020261; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:06:57 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 21 Feb 2006 18:06:57 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 21 Feb 2006 18:06:57 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -24951,37 +15159,11 @@ I would say between lisp macros and C macros. the latter. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdUh-000690-3o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:48:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBcJR-00015X-1E - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:32:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBbyU-0005G6-F6 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:12:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBbDZ-0003MP-44 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:22:30 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBbJr-0002Ax-NK - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:28:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LHLxuU009222; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:22:15 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Bill Page'" Bill Page, - "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:21:53 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Bill Page, +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 21, 2006 12:01 PM I wrote: @@ -25067,81 +15249,20 @@ Shouldn't this differentiation be written That should allow the differentiation of any expressions occuring in the underlying Ring. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdQm-000450-EZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:44:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdHm-0000py-VQ - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:34:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBd2n-00046l-R0 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:19:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBcns-0007kh-SL - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:04:07 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.187] (helo=web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBcuC-0003uF-FU - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:10:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 49537 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2006 19:04:03 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=LzB3+sqSEuz4hHYBwx0OjD1txiB0rB6X3ap8Ogsa0le7p07k+XwoK9RA9UoR/C3vqB0qKRoWNeknf+ovxs9o8Kva8mOyKqLBlGcQKwFNATolEquzyjrc/tYw53B2yaitAEr6wl4C9TcsJfTeNTbkVDTaMMk41CXTABd/kEknFcU= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:04:03 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:04:03 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -To: David MENTRE -Cc: list +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure FWIW, the Maxima setup uses a combination of autoconf and defsystem. I have found that this works pretty well, personally. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdez-0002EZ-52 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:58:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdSD-0004pf-MJ - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:45:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBaZq-00054K-CB - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:41:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBYc6-0001xT-PS - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:35:40 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBYiJ-0002m7-RH - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:42:04 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LEZIsb013062; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:35:28 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:35:12 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 21, 2006 4:59 AM Ralf Hemmecke asked: > @@ -25156,39 +15277,11 @@ I am sorry. I should have written 'vectorise'. See within: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/PolycatSpad -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBauO-00005q-P6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:02:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBZp9-0007k2-Bj - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:53:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBYrX-0004SA-1K - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:54:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBYdf-0002GR-RO - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:37:17 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBYjw-0002u1-T9 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:43:45 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LEaoYO013320; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:37:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:36:44 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Ralf, @@ -25201,39 +15294,11 @@ On February 21, 2006 6:09 AM you wrote: Thanks! I think your description is excellent. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdpi-0008N6-FQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:10:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBc2O-00063C-Tt - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:15:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBady-0006Y5-0q - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:45:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBYUt-0000yj-I2 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:28:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBYbA-00026f-Dk - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:34:40 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LERlvX024929; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:28:03 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:27:41 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... On February 20, 2006 6:39 PM C Y wrote: > ... @@ -25357,55 +15422,13 @@ I also look forward to your completion of the work on units and dimensions in Axiom, but it doesn't hurt to *think* about other subjects. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBeE3-0002Or-Ou - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:35:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBeDy-0002Ka-D9 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:35:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBdlz-00065n-Rc - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:06:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBde7-0001nV-Ao - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:58:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBdkR-00083r-BS - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:04:35 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8C64F3BE; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:57:49 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LJxL6P020949; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:59:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LJxL6u020948; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:59:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "David MENTRE" -Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search - error) - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0602202353o79daf32fy@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 21 Feb 2006 20:59:21 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: David Mentre +Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure (was: Re: Hyper doc search error) -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: [...] @@ -25430,69 +15453,51 @@ developped more with C-family languages than lisp :-) | I'll make | my own proposal and then the Axiom Community will decide. -:-) - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBfl0-0008Mu-DO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:13:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBfkw-0008Ix-US - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:13:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBfkv-0008HF-MF - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:13:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBfcC-0003fK-5c - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBfiX-0003vM-F7 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:10:45 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1LM45jh010631; - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:04:05 -0600 +Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:04:05 -0600 From: MathAction (hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:04:05 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [ExpressionInteger] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/ExpressionInteger/diff --- -Similar to the warning given for arguments of DistributedMultivariatePolynomial, -here is another warning about the use of Expression Integer. +Similar to the warning given for arguments of +DistributedMultivariatePolynomial, here is another warning about the +use of Expression Integer. -Disclaimer: The page has been created to be helpful. -But it might contain explanations that are based on misunderstandings -by the author. -In any case the best source of information is the source code itself, but -since the Expression domain is quite complex, any attempt to document it well is welcome. +Disclaimer: The page has been created to be helpful. But it might +contain explanations that are based on misunderstandings by the +author. In any case the best source of information is the source code +itself, but since the Expression domain is quite complex, any attempt +to document it well is welcome. -Expression Integer is a domain that is (like Polynomial Integer) mainly useful at the Axiom command line. -Roughly, any mathematical expression in Axiom can be converted to Expression Integer. -Thus, although, Axiom currently does not forbid to construct other domains that use Expression Integer as a parameter, -such constructions should be done with utmost care since they might result in unexpected behaviour. +Expression Integer is a domain that is (like Polynomial Integer) +mainly useful at the Axiom command line. Roughly, any mathematical +expression in Axiom can be converted to Expression Integer. Thus, +although, Axiom currently does not forbid to construct other domains +that use Expression Integer as a parameter, such constructions should +be done with utmost care since they might result in unexpected +behaviour. Take, for example, the domain constructor SparseUnivariatePolynomial. -According to its definition in src/algebra/poly.spad, it takes a ring $R$ as argument and constructs a -univariate polynomial ring $P$ over $R$. In other words, if +According to its definition in src/algebra/poly.spad, it takes a ring +$R$ as argument and constructs a univariate polynomial ring $P$ over +$R$. In other words, if + \begin{axiom} R := Expression Integer P := SparseUnivariatePolynomial R \end{axiom} + then + \begin{equation} P = \bigoplus_{n\in N} R \end{equation} -where $N$ is the set of non-negative integers. -In particular, $P$ does not have any concept of a named indeterminate. -Axiom shows this by printing a question mark as the name of that indeterminate. + +where $N$ is the set of non-negative integers. In particular, $P$ +does not have any concept of a named indeterminate. Axiom shows this +by printing a question mark as the name of that indeterminate. + \begin{axiom} z: P := monomial(1, 1) \end{axiom} @@ -25505,22 +15510,26 @@ degree a degree z \end{axiom} -Let us analyze the assignment of $a$. -The interpreter has to determine what to do with the letter $x$. -Obviously, the interpreter has no way to figure out that $x$ should be treated as the indeterminate of $P$. -It is clearly impossible, since the indeterminate of $P$ has no name. -The best thing the interpreter can to is to coerce $x$ to an element of $R$. -That is possible, since basically every mathematical expression is of type Expression Integer. -Now, coercing $x$ as an element of $R$ to $P$ is simple, since $R$ is the coefficient domain of $P$. -That explains also why the degree of $a$ is zero. +Let us analyze the assignment of $a$. The interpreter has to +determine what to do with the letter $x$. Obviously, the interpreter +has no way to figure out that $x$ should be treated as the +indeterminate of $P$. It is clearly impossible, since the +indeterminate of $P$ has no name. The best thing the interpreter can +to is to coerce $x$ to an element of $R$. That is possible, since +basically every mathematical expression is of type Expression Integer. +Now, coercing $x$ as an element of $R$ to $P$ is simple, since $R$ is +the coefficient domain of $P$. That explains also why the degree of +$a$ is zero. Since the $a$ is of degree zero, the following is also understandable. \begin{axiom} differentiate a differentiate z \end{axiom} -Differentiation is done with respect to the only variable $P$ knows (namely the unnamed one). -That is the reason why differentiate does not need a second argument. + +Differentiation is done with respect to the only variable $P$ knows +(namely the unnamed one). That is the reason why differentiate does +not need a second argument. Now let us consider the following. \begin{axiom} @@ -25528,17 +15537,24 @@ differentiate(a,x) differentiate(z,x) differentiate(z,y) \end{axiom} -Each time we get 1 as a result. That is strange. It would be more appropriate if the first gives 1 and the other two give 0. -So let try to make it more obvious what happens. + +Each time we get 1 as a result. That is strange. It would be more +appropriate if the first gives 1 and the other two give 0. So let try +to make it more obvious what happens. + \begin{axiom} differentiate(a^2,x) differentiate(a^2,y) differentiate(z^2,x) differentiate(z^2,y) \end{axiom} -Interestingly, the result tells us that in the first two cases differentiation is basically done in $R$ -and the result is as we expect it to be. -In the second two cases, the differentiation is basically equivalent to differentiation with respect to the unnamed indeterminate. + +Interestingly, the result tells us that in the first two cases +differentiation is basically done in $R$ and the result is as we +expect it to be. In the second two cases, the differentiation is +basically equivalent to differentiation with respect to the unnamed +indeterminate. + \begin{axiom} differentiate(z^2) \end{axiom} @@ -25547,46 +15563,17 @@ If this is not considered a bug, then it is at least an inconsistency with b: Boolean := (x::P) = (y::P) \end{axiom} - Then the following is also clear, but maybe not really as expected. \begin{axiom} differentiate(z^2*a^3,x) differentiate(z^2*a^3,y) \end{axiom} --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/ExpressionInteger#msg20060221160337-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBfnb-0001PL-NU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:15:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBffJ-00059d-5F - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:07:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBfU5-0007Mp-Oe - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:55:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBfTu-0007IK-6v - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:55:38 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBfaF-0002md-9E - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:02:11 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1LLtYiK018332 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:55:34 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:53:02 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -Cc: list > (4) -> differentiate(ex1,x)$S @@ -25626,45 +15613,10 @@ What would be the relation between SUP(Expression Integer) and Expression(Integer) on a semantic level? Equality, subset, superset? -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBgra-0002xY-8T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:24:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBgqa-0001Ye-CG - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:23:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBgpS-00082E-Vi - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:21:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBgnn-0005ZC-GC - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:20:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBgu9-0001X1-KP - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:26:49 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05FF4F3A4; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:20:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1LNLb6P021771; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:21:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1LNLblb021770; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:21:37 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> - - <43FB0131.9060102@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 22 Feb 2006 00:21:37 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: 1: % Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -25684,45 +15636,20 @@ expanding on my preivous answer, have a look at the section 5.2 os the Aldor user guide on literal forming -- you can define your own function to interpret a string literal as a constant. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBh9F-0004wc-67 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:42:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBh9D-0004vN-Gt - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:42:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBh99-0004sB-9k - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:42:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBh99-0004s1-2S - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:42:19 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBhFU-0003Ox-Tl - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:48:53 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1LNfiLX004079; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:41:55 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:41:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On February 21, 2006 4:53 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > > (4) -> differentiate(ex1,x)$S ->=20 +> > > This function seems to come from 'DifferentialExtension' ->=20 +> > No. I rather think it comes from 'PartialDifferentialRing(Symbol)'. -> Look at Hyperdoc. Browse SUP and view Operations->Origins (Filter=20 +> Look at Hyperdoc. Browse SUP and view Operations->Origins (Filter > "differentiate"). I think Hyperdoc is confused. @@ -25735,7 +15662,7 @@ SparseUnivariatePolynomial(R:Ring): UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R) with = >From = http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/PolycatSpad -UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category =3D=3D +UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category == Join(PolynomialCategory(R, NonNegativeInteger, SingletonAsOrderedSet), Eltable(R, R), Eltable(%, %), DifferentialRing, DifferentialExtension R) with ... @@ -25743,18 +15670,18 @@ UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category =3D=3D >From = http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/CatdefSpad -DifferentialExtension(R:Ring): Category =3D=3D Ring with ... +DifferentialExtension(R:Ring): Category == Ring with ... if R has PartialDifferentialRing(Symbol) then PartialDifferentialRing(Symbol) add ... if R has PartialDifferentialRing Symbol then - differentiate(x:%, v:Symbol):% =3D=3D + differentiate(x:%, v:Symbol):% == differentiate(x, differentiate(#1, v)$R) ------------ ->=20 +> > > So I am confused as to why > > 'differentiate(univariate(p,v))' does not seem to yield this > > same result. Can you help? @@ -25769,7 +15696,7 @@ See: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxPolynomial -> Not really. I think there is a bug here, since x is sometimes=20 +> Not really. I think there is a bug here, since x is sometimes > treated as the indeterminate of SUP and sometimes not. This makes sense to me: @@ -25787,21 +15714,21 @@ list of variables (fixed at 1 and denoted '?' for 'SUP'). Maybe that is a bit confusing compared to common usage. :( ->=20 +> > > It seems to me that the interrelationship between all of these > > polynomial categories, domains and packages is remarkably > > convoluted. ->=20 +> > I don't really think so. The problematic thing is to take > "Expression Integer" as an argument in the construction of SUP. ->=20 -> Could you explain in which sense SUP(Expression Integer) should be=20 +> +> Could you explain in which sense SUP(Expression Integer) should be > semantically different from Expression(Integer)? SUP(Expression Integer) has an extra (but unspecified) variable: the "polynomial variable". ->=20 +> > Isn't an element of SUP(Expression Integer) also an expression? No, only the members of 'SUP(EXPR INT)' of degree 0. For example: @@ -25815,7 +15742,7 @@ cannot be converted to 'EXPR INT'. Yes, I think so. ->=20 +> > I do not fully understand the "Expression" constructor, but > I somehow consider it as a domain that contains every expression. @@ -25832,51 +15759,18 @@ Aldor's 'ExpressionTree'. But I agree that really Axiom needs a > What would be the relation between SUP(Expression Integer) and > Expression(Integer) on a semantic level? Equality, subset, superset? ->=20 +> There is a sense in which 'EXPR INT' is a SubDomain of 'SUP EXPR INT' in so much as it is always possible to coerce a member of 'EXPR INT' to 'SUP EXPR INT' but the reverse conversion is only possible for members of 'SUP EXPR INT' of degree 0. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBl4A-0003l7-6T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:53:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBl45-0003ig-TU - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:53:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBl43-0003g8-FC - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:53:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBl42-0003fl-Lr - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:53:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBlAR-0003y0-D2 - for list; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:59:55 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603684F3BE; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:53:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1M3sd6P023056; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:54:39 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1M3sd7Q023055; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:54:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Feb 2006 04:54:39 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Feb 2006 04:54:39 +0100 Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -25894,68 +15788,11 @@ Indeed. That speaks for NOT using 'category' and 'object' when, in fact, we are talking of things that are different from 'category' and 'object' as used in the math litterature. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBoU0-0002GC-D4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:32:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBoTu-0002Dc-0W - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:32:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBoTq-0002Br-Az - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:32:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBoTp-0002BL-9X - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:32:09 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBoaG-0003sk-7O - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:38:48 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1M7WMjh026692; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:32:22 -0600 -From: MathAction (unknown) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:32:22 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Found Objects] buspar - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects/diff --- - You have a good website! 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Beautiful web site! http://busdrug.info buspar --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects#msg20060222013221-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBpk0-0002Pl-DX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:52:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBpjx-0002Lp-0j - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:52:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBpjt-0002GW-1m - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:52:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBpjr-0002El-9l - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:52:47 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBpqI-00021d-Q1 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:59:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1M8qJ3Y069009; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:52:22 +0100 (CET) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Martin Rubey Date: 22 Feb 2006 09:54:21 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer Dear Bill, Ralf, * @@ -26000,39 +15837,10 @@ PLEASE don't change the behaviour of DMP and company. What should be documented and friends can lead to "surprising" results. This should go into the section "types" of the axiom book. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBrkB-0007fX-Em - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:01:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBriY-0007Qe-A2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:59:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBrhA-0006qJ-QK - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:58:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBrgC-00066Y-Mb - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:57:09 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBrme-0004wZ-Of - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:03:49 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1MAusiK012301 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:56:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:57:10 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: Re: 1: % On 02/22/2006 12:21 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -26091,40 +15899,13 @@ main(); -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC2wN-0001Xy-MJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:58:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC2bw-0008CT-0F - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:37:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC15r-0004hp-Ik - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:01:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzEF-0002Et-KP - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:00:48 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBvf5-0007Cx-2L - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:12:15 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32B94F3D4; 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Maybe, I don't have enough knowledge here. If you could enlighten me, would be nice... -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC5BK-0006Oj-7b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:22:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC1fX-0002wh-Ld - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:37:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC0jr-0001Sv-QL - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:38:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzD6-0002Hz-AG - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:59:37 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.181] (helo=web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBw7x-0001DZ-DT - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:42:05 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30991 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Feb 2006 15:35:19 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=DGhwgi/M9N7/T42ePHvbDux3AqMgdi16qpsm/xLru2IPiKGhtATMKHmhStrvYoY1hND6PFClUZss+H19lhKhbE/TmCjxs28DqceDXnIGkoBo3Q0i3bhWaUg/mI2hZddCRbjFGfbpF0Ftj8utD3wcMpeATPwv4a+xbjpaUYJsYok= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:35:19 PST Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:35:19 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Time for another crazy idea... --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -26406,43 +16110,11 @@ multiple uses of terms, but in this case I think we might want to give the matter some consideration, at least when we start to do the large scale Algebra translation. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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We expand more often sin (4*x+5*y) than sin (x^2+x) ; for sin (x^2+x) we use series. -Have a good day ! - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC89P-00026b-Ae - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:32:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC4u0-0002zw-SU - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:04:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC1dr-0002j3-L8 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:35:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FC07w-0006cx-56 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:58:20 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.126] (helo=smtp18.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FC0ET-0005Nw-OR - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:05:06 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1807.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D099870000A9 - for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:58:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-149-94.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr - [86.210.124.94]) - by mwinf1807.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0794570000AB; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:58:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FC08N-0004ty-QD; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:58:47 +0100 -To: Tim Daly - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> -From: David Mentre +\start Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:58:47 +0100 - (Tim Daly's - message of "Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:46:24 -0500") -Cc: list +From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ASDF and ./configure --=-=-= @@ -26561,7 +16194,7 @@ Hello Tim, I looked at the ./configure script so I can reply more specifically now. -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > The issue, as i understand it, is not that the configure script > doesn't work on the systems where it was tested. The issue is that @@ -26810,41 +16443,14 @@ Footnotes: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.57/html_chapter/autoconf_10.html#SEC114 -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - ---=-=-=-- - - - +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8P5-0004MK-7A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:48:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8HD-0003Af-UV - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:40:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC84Z-0001Hq-K4 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:28:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FC5kq-0006wX-Cu - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:58:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FC5rR-0004aH-GX - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:05:42 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1N1wxBq002316; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:58:59 -0600 +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:58:59 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:58:59 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Streams] Re: Clarifications -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams/diff --- unknown wrote: > It seems that the example: @@ -26888,37 +16494,12 @@ the 'while' syntax. In this example the 'while' clause and the more general situations however there may a difference. The failure of the 'while' condition causes the list to terminate but the failure of the | condition simply skips that entry. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams#msg20060222195858-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC86e-0001dY-9z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:29:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC7IO-0002BK-7X - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:37:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC14h-0004YP-ES - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:00:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzAd-0001yv-Fr - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:57:06 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBxfd-0002Ew-Ko - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:20:57 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1MHDjUM011094; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:14:01 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer + +\start Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:13:36 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Martin, @@ -27103,87 +16684,26 @@ No! 'b' for example in: is not the same a '1$P' -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8R7-0004f7-Ld - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:50:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC73Z-0008Vp-78 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:22:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBzVL-000301-MO - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:18:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzJZ-0002L2-Ey - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:06:17 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBtb6-0006jf-Rb - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:00:01 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1MCrGjh021844; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:53:16 -0600 +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:53:16 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:53:16 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomCommunity] A axiom package, itovsn3 -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity/diff --- -Thanks for professor W.Kendall, Warwick Univ,U.K. kindly allow us to include his effort, itovsn3 (in Axiom) in our LiveTeXmacs. itovsn3 supports many functions for computing stochastic integrals, solving stochastic differential equations and others. Also itovsn3 gives several examples. With the such powerful tool for studying Stochastic process, I also make a lecture file about stochastic process in TeXmacs format ( more than 100 pages but not completed yet). In the future, I will add a part how to use Axiom+itovsn3 to solve SDE. Welcome all interesting readers to use. +Thanks for professor W.Kendall, Warwick Univ,U.K. kindly allow us to +include his effort, itovsn3 (in Axiom) in our LiveTeXmacs. itovsn3 +supports many functions for computing stochastic integrals, solving +stochastic differential equations and others. Also itovsn3 gives +several examples. With the such powerful tool for studying Stochastic +process, I also make a lecture file about stochastic process in +TeXmacs format ( more than 100 pages but not completed yet). In the +future, I will add a part how to use Axiom+itovsn3 to solve +SDE. Welcome all interesting readers to use. -cchuang_at_mail.cgu.edu.tw --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity#msg20060222065313-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC9CN-0003JF-QH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:39:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8u5-0000ck-RM - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:20:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC1WE-0001Nu-N8 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:27:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzB3-0002Hz-Tq - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:57:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBxFk-0005Ys-B2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:54:12 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAC64F403; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:47:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1MGmk6P025625; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:48:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1MGmkDs025624; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:48:46 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> - - <43FB0131.9060102@hemmecke.de> - - <43FC4386.4000802@hemmecke.de> - - <43FC8AE6.3010105@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 22 Feb 2006 17:48:46 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: 1: % Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27262,27 +16782,8 @@ distinction with constant vs. nullary function. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8F0-0002sB-6J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:38:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC0m1-0001lM-78 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:39:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FBziD-0004DW-M2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:32:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzC4-0001xf-JS - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:58:33 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBwo9-0000O6-Mm - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:25:41 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1MGIcwV001820; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:18:49 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:18:29 -0500 charset="us-ascii" @@ -27347,32 +16848,6 @@ Bill Page. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC9TN-0005T4-8y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:57:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8Hc-0003CT-TP - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:40:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC7gr-0005r3-U3 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:02:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzEf-0002Et-VN - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:01:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBvZA-0006dL-SY - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:06:09 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B895940F9A; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:59:23 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1MF0i6P024871; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:00:44 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1MF0ins024870; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:00:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f To: Ralf Hemmecke <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> @@ -27425,31 +16900,13 @@ Underneath, everything is a function in Aldor! \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC6uj-00076a-S1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:13:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC42M-0007Hf-8Z - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:08:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC2Bz-00068p-Na - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:13:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzH0-0002Et-HC - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:03:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBuXx-0004rD-E3 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:00:49 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1MDqrgE045853; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:52:58 +0100 (CET) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer From: Martin Rubey Date: 22 Feb 2006 14:54:55 +0100 Cc: list -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > Martin, > @@ -27545,111 +17002,11 @@ EXPR(vars, coefficients) yet. Yes it has: 1 is a UP([x], INT). -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC8fY-0006aj-Go - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:05:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC7e5-0005UW-GT - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:00:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC0x6-00036D-C2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:51:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FC0Dn-00076g-J9 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:04:24 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FC0KL-0005nB-S2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:11:10 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1MK4XBq014485; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:04:33 -0600 -From: MathAction (David Mentre) -To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:04:33 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [build Axiom] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom/diff --- - -??changed: -- 'export CVS_RSH="ssh"' -- 'cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/axiom co axiom' -- --The !SSHv2 public key fingerprints for the machine hosting the cvs trees are:: -- -- 'RSA: 1024 80:5a:b0:0c:ec:93:66:29:49:7e:04:2b:fd:ba:2c:d5' -- 'DSA: 1024 4d:c8:dc:9a:99:96:ae:cc:ce:d3:2b:b0:a3:a4:95:a5' -- --This has stopped working ... the Savannah folks moved some things around -- --Ed Borasky, 2005-12-17, Ed Borasky - 'cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/axiom co axiom' - -(Thanks to Ed Borasky for the right command) - - ---removed: --From unknown Sat Aug 27 15:32:44 -0500 2005 --From: unknown --Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:32:44 -0500 --Subject: cvs problem --Message-ID: <20050827153244-0500@www.axiom-developer.org> -- --cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/axiom co axiom --nongnu.org: Operation timed out --cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) -- -- --William -- --From BillPage Sun Dec 18 00:16:40 -0600 2005 --From: Bill Page --Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:16:40 -0600 --Subject: Re: noting a change in Savannah setup --Message-ID: <20051218001640-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org> -- --[38 more lines...] - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom#msg20060222140433-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC6HG-0002Kk-HW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:32:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC5mI-00072a-F4 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:00:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC4JF-0008T8-A2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:28:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzCi-0002AU-4A - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:59:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBwKH-0004Cz-VD - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:54:50 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1MFljGl029503; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:47:58 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:47:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On February 22, 2006 10:07 AM Gaby wrote: > @@ -27686,154 +17043,68 @@ But the Barr and Wells book ends up at Topos Theory (algebraic set theory) and I do believe that is where we want to be in a computer algebra system like Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCADw-000479-G1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:45:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC6JV-0002e1-7T - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:34:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC6Hi-0002Ov-01 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:34:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FC6HN-0002LR-49 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:32:30 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FC6Nz-0006cW-1K - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:39:19 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1N2WkBq012242; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:32:46 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:32:46 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [AxiomCommunity] itovsn3 and LiveTeXmacs links -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity/diff --- itovsn3 (author: Wilfrid S. Kendall) -- http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/ LiveTeXmacs (author: chu-ching huang) -- ftp://math.cgu.edu.tw/pub/KNOPPIX ftp://math.cgu.edu.tw/pub/KNOPPIX/StocCal216.iso --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity#msg20060222203240-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCJVb-00069r-94 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:40:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCJCS-0002Av-6o - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:20:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCCV9-000423-32 - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:11:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCByD-00030b-3c - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:37:06 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCC4s-0005vj-Lw - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:43:58 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1N8bSBq018989; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:37:28 -0600 + +\start From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:37:28 -0600 Cc: Subject: [Streams] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams/diff --- -Thanks for your reply! As a follow-up, I'd like to know how AXIOM can find out when 'complete' has computed all members of the stream if there isn't a finite 'for' or 'while' there somewhere. I would think that's undecidable in some weird cases. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams#msg20060223023727-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCKkP-0007yo-B6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:59:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCKkK-0007xT-AV - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:59:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCKkH-0007we-1t - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:59:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FC6Wk-00045y-M0 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:48:23 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FC6dM-0008Gr-Ru - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:55:13 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1N2mfBq016836; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:48:41 -0600 +Thanks for your reply! As a follow-up, I'd like to know how AXIOM can +find out when 'complete' has computed all members of the stream if +there isn't a finite 'for' or 'while' there somewhere. I would think +that's undecidable in some weird cases. + +\start From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:48:41 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Symbolic Ito Calculus] (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SymbolicItoCalculus/diff --- itovsn3 (author: Wilfrid S. Kendall) http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca -Symbolic Itô Calculus is the name for my implementation of Itô calculus (stochastic calculus for continuous semimartingales)in various computer algebra packages. See below for various Warwick Statistics Department preprints describing aspects of the work. If you want to get hold of the software then there are various possibilities depending on what is your favourite computer algebra package. +Symbolic Itô Calculus is the name for my implementation of Itô +calculus (stochastic calculus for continuous semimartingales)in +various computer algebra packages. See below for various Warwick +Statistics Department preprints describing aspects of the work. If you +want to get hold of the software then there are various possibilities +depending on what is your favourite computer algebra package. ... -AXIOM: I have produced an AXIOM implementation of symbolic Itô calculus (see "preprint 327":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/abstracts/#327) and "Preprint 328":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/abstracts/#328 below describes the implementation, including AXIOM listings using the NuWeb implementation of literate programming. Alternatively you can download the AXIOM source in the following "gzipped tarfile":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/itovsn3-axiom.tgz . This work was funded by EPSRC grant GR/K71677: the summary of the final report for this grant is to be found "here":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/k71677 --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SymbolicItoCalculus#msg20060222204841-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCKkV-00080w-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:59:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC6Fk-00025d-54 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:30:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FC4mP-0001om-C2 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:58:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzLX-0001mS-B0 - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:08:20 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBsza-00036Q-3U - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:21:14 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1MCE7gm018867; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:14:23 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey +AXIOM: I have produced an AXIOM implementation of symbolic Itô +calculus (see "preprint +327":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/abstracts/#327) +and "Preprint +328":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/abstracts/#328 +below describes the implementation, including AXIOM listings using the +NuWeb implementation of literate programming. Alternatively you can +download the AXIOM source in the following "gzipped +tarfile":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/itovsn3-axiom.tgz +. This work was funded by EPSRC grant GR/K71677: the summary of the +final report for this grant is to be found +"here":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/k71677 + +\start +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:13:57 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Martin, @@ -27938,27 +17209,8 @@ Bill Page. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCM0U-0000By-GH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:20:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCM0P-00009P-Sw - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:20:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCM0M-00007r-Ow - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:19:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCIyG-0008L9-Vs - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCJ51-0000Lo-0K - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:12:35 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1NG5F6X012223; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:30 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:03 -0500 charset="us-ascii" @@ -28017,44 +17269,36 @@ How else could you explain this result? 'variables(P)' is the list of polynomial variables. 'variables(coefficient(P,0))' is the list of variables occurring in the term with degree 0. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCOC0-0000YR-NZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:40:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCNEr-0000NQ-5i - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:39:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCCU9-0003vP-IE - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:10:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCAZm-0006cY-8P - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:07:48 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCAgQ-00087n-8x - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:14:38 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1N780Bq006002; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a bug! -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- -I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to stand for two different 'variables' in two different domains (either accidentally or on purpose) has been thoroughly discussed, but not quite. Note that I distinguish 'identifier' from 'variable'. We have two variables, usually one internally denoted by the 'Symbol' 'x' and another unspecified as ? (as in 'UP(x,INT)') where ? does NOT exist but can either be printed as ? or any identifier the user prefers, such as 'x'. As any one who does programming should know, the same 'identifier' should never be used to denote two different objects (at least not within the same scope). By the way, this design is in some sense ingenious, and necessary, to allow extending a polynomial ring that already has all the symbols as variables; such extension is useful in testing radical ideal membership of polynomial rings, and intersections of polynomial ideals, for example. - -In creating 'integrate((1/x)::ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),x)', the user erred by combining two operations into one and thus allowing, actually forcing, Axiom's Interpreter to firstly misidentify the first 'x' encountered during scan as belonging to 'FRAC POLY INT' when the user meant it to be in 'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0)' and then secondly it is forced to coerce the result '1/x' to be a coefficient in 'ULS(FRAC POLY INT,x,0)' by the user. Once satisfied that the result is in 'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0)', there is no need to do anything further but to start processing the 'integrate' command. +I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to +stand for two different 'variables' in two different domains (either +accidentally or on purpose) has been thoroughly discussed, but not +quite. Note that I distinguish 'identifier' from 'variable'. We have +two variables, usually one internally denoted by the 'Symbol' 'x' and +another unspecified as ? (as in 'UP(x,INT)') where ? does NOT exist +but can either be printed as ? or any identifier the user prefers, +such as 'x'. As any one who does programming should know, the same +'identifier' should never be used to denote two different objects (at +least not within the same scope). By the way, this design is in some +sense ingenious, and necessary, to allow extending a polynomial ring +that already has all the symbols as variables; such extension is +useful in testing radical ideal membership of polynomial rings, and +intersections of polynomial ideals, for example. + +In creating 'integrate((1/x)::ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0),x)', the user +erred by combining two operations into one and thus allowing, actually +forcing, Axiom's Interpreter to firstly misidentify the first 'x' +encountered during scan as belonging to 'FRAC POLY INT' when the user +meant it to be in 'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0)' and then secondly it is +forced to coerce the result '1/x' to be a coefficient in 'ULS(FRAC +POLY INT,x,0)' by the user. Once satisfied that the result is in +'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x, 0)', there is no need to do anything further +but to start processing the 'integrate' command. Instead, the user should have separated the two operations: @@ -28063,200 +17307,63 @@ f:ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x,0):=1/x integrate(f,x) \end{axiom} -Three things should be noted here: (a) 'x' is first encountered in 'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x,0)' which creates an 'identifier' 'x' for the main variable ? in the 'ULS' domain. (b) In the first line, having bound 'x' to the main variable, '1/x' is now treated as a Laurent series (not as a coefficient living in 'FRAC POLY INT'), but it is not apparent to the inexperienced user in the output (but it is different, as seen below). -(c) In the second line, Axiom fails (correctly) because the integral, which is 'log(x)', which is not given by a Laurent series about 'x=0'. A better example is: +Three things should be noted here: (a) 'x' is first encountered in +'ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x,0)' which creates an 'identifier' 'x' for the +main variable ? in the 'ULS' domain. (b) In the first line, having +bound 'x' to the main variable, '1/x' is now treated as a Laurent +series (not as a coefficient living in 'FRAC POLY INT'), but it is not +apparent to the inexperienced user in the output (but it is different, +as seen below). (c) In the second line, Axiom fails (correctly) +because the integral, which is 'log(x)', which is not given by a +Laurent series about 'x=0'. A better example is: \begin{axiom} g:ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x,0):=1/(x-1) integrate(g,x) \end{axiom} -Here Axiom actually expands '1/(x-1)' in a series in powers of 'x'. Compared this with: +Here Axiom actually expands '1/(x-1)' in a series in powers of +'x'. Compared this with: \begin{axiom} h:=(1/(x-1))::ULS(FRAC POLY INT, x,0) integrate(h,x) \end{axiom} -Now Axiom having been forced to output the same identifier for two different variables, the first 'x' bound to a variable in 'FRAC POLY INT', and the second 'x' bound to the main variable of 'ULS', should NOT then simplify the expression '1/x x' of (3) to '1'. This is unfortunately a consequence of the design goal to permit elements of 'UP(x,R)' to be coercible to 'POLY R' where the main variable is coerced into the variable using the identifier 'x'. In our case, 'ULS(R,x,0)' was first truncated to 'UP(x,R)' (using 'univariatePolynoimial') by identifying the main variable of 'ULS' with the main variable of 'UP(x,R)'. Here 'R' IS 'FRAC POLY INT', and 'UP(x, FRAC POLY INT)' is first coerced into 'FRAC UP(x, POLY INT)' and then further to 'FRAC POLY INT' via 'UP(x, POLY INT)' to 'POLY INT' (from 'map' from 'FRAC2(UP(x, POLY INT),POLY INT)' and the Interpreter probably simplified 'POLY POLY INT' to 'POLY INT'). In other words, we have '((1/x ?)::(?/x)::(x/x)=1'. The 'bug' there! -fore probably lies in the identification of 'POLY POLY INT' with 'POLY INT' where the outer ? (or 'x') is identified with 'x' of the inner 'POLY'. - -Conclusion: (i) Any simplification of towers which makes sense in mathematics probably would not make sense in computer algebra (due to scope problems for one). Other examples could be 'FRAC FRAC INT' to 'FRAC INT' and 'EXPR EXPR INT' to 'EXPR INT'. (ii) Users should be alert to the order in which an input is scanned and the consequences, and break a long input into simpler steps. (iii) Users should not use the same identifier for two different objects. - -William --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060223010756-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCQMX-0006rS-5s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:59:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCQMN-0006oe-Ru - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:59:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCQMK-0006nL-KD - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQMJ-0006mh-CP - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:58:55 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQMJ-0007YX-DC - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:58:55 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1NNx1Xv010795; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:59:01 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:59:01 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [FrontPage] - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage/diff --- - -++added: -[Axiom Contributions]
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This is +unfortunately a consequence of the design goal to permit elements of +'UP(x,R)' to be coercible to 'POLY R' where the main variable is +coerced into the variable using the identifier 'x'. In our case, +'ULS(R,x,0)' was first truncated to 'UP(x,R)' (using +'univariatePolynoimial') by identifying the main variable of 'ULS' +with the main variable of 'UP(x,R)'. Here 'R' IS 'FRAC POLY INT', and +'UP(x, FRAC POLY INT)' is first coerced into 'FRAC UP(x, POLY INT)' +and then further to 'FRAC POLY INT' via 'UP(x, POLY INT)' to 'POLY +INT' (from 'map' from 'FRAC2(UP(x, POLY INT),POLY INT)' and the +Interpreter probably simplified 'POLY POLY INT' to 'POLY INT'). In +other words, we have '((1/x ?)::(?/x)::(x/x)=1'. The 'bug' there! +fore probably lies in the identification of 'POLY POLY INT' with 'POLY +INT' where the outer ? (or 'x') is identified with 'x' of the inner +'POLY'. + +Conclusion: (i) Any simplification of towers which makes sense in +mathematics probably would not make sense in computer algebra (due to +scope problems for one). Other examples could be 'FRAC FRAC INT' to +'FRAC INT' and 'EXPR EXPR INT' to 'EXPR INT'. (ii) Users should be +alert to the order in which an input is scanned and the consequences, +and break a long input into simpler steps. 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- Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:58:56 +0100 (CET) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer From: Martin Rubey Date: 23 Feb 2006 12:00:57 +0100 -Cc: list -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > > Here's a definition for polynomial from wikipedia: > > @@ -28383,132 +17490,29 @@ Great. > It is the other things that we discovered about complicated nested types > along the way that concerns me now. -Great. - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCWkK-0005XY-Au - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:48:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCUrk-00014S-Kx - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:47:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCQYC-0008WP-6o - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:11:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQY4-0008Vn-Ao - for list; 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Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:22:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCXS3-0004q3-Cc - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:33:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCSLw-0004J8-NQ - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:06:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQ2z-0002gI-6c - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQ2x-0006DL-Tq - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:57 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 297BF6C50D - for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:55 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8BF426C500 - for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:50 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:46 -0500 -Thread-Topic: about Expression Integer -Thread-Index: AcY4vW22e9//KDaARSOd2Azo05Z+xwAAsVVQ From: Bill Page To: "Francois Maltey" Francois Maltey -Cc: list On Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:11 PM Francois Maltey wrote: ->=20 +> > "Bill Page" writes : ->=20 -> > > > Could you please define in what sense "Otherwise we don't=20 +> +> > > > Could you please define in what sense "Otherwise we don't > > > > get a polynomial, obviously."? To me this is not obvious - > > > > it is wrong. -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Why should this be wrong? -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Here's a definition for polynomial from wikipedia: -> > >=20 +> > > > > > In mathematics, a polynomial is an expression in which > > > constants and variables are combined using (only) addition, > > > subtraction, and multiplication. Thus, 7x^2+4x-5 is a > > > polynomial; 2/x is not. ->=20 +> > I have the same point of view than Martin, everything is done > in DMP in order to have a polynomial ring, DMP isn't only a > << collect >> command which factorise x and so. @@ -28542,19 +17546,19 @@ the 'x' or 'y' that appears as a polynomial variable. Everything works as it should, no? ->=20 +> > > I think this definition is less general than it needs to -> > be and difficult to apply in the context of Axiom.=20 ->=20 +> > be and difficult to apply in the context of Axiom. +> > If we change DMP assumption, it's no more ring. I do *not* propose to change the way DMP is implemented. I think it is correct except for the way 'differentiate' is defined. ->=20 -> > We need to know what are "constants" and what are "variables"=20 ->=20 +> +> > We need to know what are "constants" and what are "variables" +> > So the same variable is forbidden in the constant ring. > I find it's a bug to allow DMP([X,Z], DMP([X,Y], INT)) @@ -28568,18 +17572,18 @@ That is why I said the definition of polynomial above is not good for Axiom. Axiom does not implement the idea of "variable" and a "constant" in this way. ->=20 +> > > > I recall that in the Algebra course I attended, the > > > polynomial ring was defined as a ring (of coefficients) > > > together with a variable which is to be transcendent over -> > > that ring.=20 -> >=20 +> > > that ring. +> > > > That definition is much better. In the case we are discussing > > the ring of coefficients is the domain 'EXPR INT' which > > includes expressions of the form '1/x' and so it is correct > > to say that '2/x' is not in itself a polynomial but it can -> > be a coefficient in a polynomial.=20 ->=20 +> > be a coefficient in a polynomial. +> > I don't think so, a polynomial ring has variables which are > not in the initial ring. @@ -28616,15 +17620,15 @@ defined over only one variable even though these two domains should be functionally equivalent. In the latter case DMP treats '1/x' as if it was a constant. ->=20 -> And 1/x isn't transcendent over that ring because y=3D1/x is -> solution of xy-1=3D0 in this field. +> +> And 1/x isn't transcendent over that ring because y=1/x is +> solution of xy-1=0 in this field. No, that is not true because 1 - - x=20 - x=20 + - x + x is not 1 in DMP([x,y],EXPR INT) if '1/x' is the coefficient and the 'x' on the right is the polynomial variable! @@ -28633,10 +17637,10 @@ Perhaps that is what seems strange to you. The problem is that you are not taking account of the *domain* in which these expressions are defined. ->=20 -> Either we say to the user he _must_ be careful with this,=20 +> +> Either we say to the user he _must_ be careful with this, > (only in the EXPR INTEGER field?) -> Either monomial command of DMP reject 1/x coefficient if x is=20 +> Either monomial command of DMP reject 1/x coefficient if x is > a variable. > @@ -28656,9 +17660,9 @@ Whether this expression is identical to 1 or not depends on the domain. This distinction is very similar to whether we treat 'x * y * x' as equivalent to 'x^2*y'. This depends on whether or not in this domain the operation '*' is commutative. -=20 + > In France we say we can be << jesuite >> : -> The real axiom accepts coefficients as 1/x in DMP ([x], EXPR INT)=20 +> The real axiom accepts coefficients as 1/x in DMP ([x], EXPR INT) > because axiom EXPR INT isn't perfect, but it shouldn't. > But I'm sure it's a mistake to change derivative. > @@ -28667,17 +17671,17 @@ I do not propose to change the derivative. I expect that DMP should treat the derivative of the polynomial as an extension of the derivative of the underlying ring in the same way that UP does this. -=20 + > > How would you use such a domain to solve the problem originally > > posed by Francois about expansion of trigonometric expressions -> > that started this thread?=20 ->=20 -> When we expand a trigonometric expression,=20 +> > that started this thread? +> +> When we expand a trigonometric expression, > the question is a << linear one >> not a polynomial one. ->=20 -> We expand more often sin (4*x+5*y) than sin (x^2+x) ;=20 +> +> We expand more often sin (4*x+5*y) than sin (x^2+x) ; > for sin (x^2+x) we use series. ->=20 +> Sure, but Axiom already defines the trigonometric expansion of 'sin(x^2+x)' in the same way as other systems such as Maple and @@ -28700,145 +17704,25 @@ Bill Page. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCZwX-0004YN-Sg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:13:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCBk5-0008Cn-0L - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:22:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCAxU-0001Dl-0g - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:36:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBzDE-0002F1-2w - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:59:44 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FBw3v-0000uA-CG - for list; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:37:55 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1MFVBjh017472; - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:31:11 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:31:10 -0600 Cc: Subject: [Streams] Clarifications -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams/diff --- It seems that the example [p for p in smallPrimes for i in 1..11] depends on multiple for clauses being interpreted in parallel instead of all their combinations. 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Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:25:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChdR-0004tE-HX - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:25:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChdQ-0004sI-1W - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:25:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCckJ-0005ih-7s - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:31 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCckP-0002rY-UY - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:39 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 87CC0667DC - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:29 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 34D6B667E3 - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:23 -0500 (EST) - charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:16 -0500 -Thread-Topic: about Expression Integer -Thread-Index: AcY5Ks7haaVWs0sQT+OSfAJdhpij/wAAd5Fg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, - "Bill Page" Bill Page -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke, + Bill Page Ralf, On Friday, February 24, 2006 5:12 AM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Let us take again the view that a polynomial ring "R[x]" (it's > in quotes since I haven't defined that notation yet) is the > ring ->=20 -> P =3D \bigoplus_{e \in N} R ->=20 +> +> P = \bigoplus_{e \in N} R +> > where N are the non-negative integers. > Elements in P (the polynomials) are just functions with finite > support from N to R. So the are nothing else than (infinite) @@ -28959,13 +17813,13 @@ On Friday, February 24, 2006 5:12 AM you wrote: Ignoring for now the details of multivariate polynomials, in Axiom we would write: - P:=3DPOLY R + P:=POLY R where R is some Ring (such as INT). -=20 -> Now, let x \in P be such that x(1)=3D1 and x(e)=3D0 for e \in + +> Now, let x \in P be such that x(1)=1 and x(e)=0 for e \in > N\setminus\{1\}. ->=20 +> > If you like, you can consider this x to be the "indeterminate" > or "variable" of P. > @@ -28974,7 +17828,7 @@ No, this is not quite complete. There is a function 'coerce' such that 'coerce(x::Symbol)$P' \in P. Axiom displays both this polynomial and the symbol in the same way except the Type is different. -=20 + > It is also clear that by construction this x is different > from anything that lives in R. @@ -28982,25 +17836,25 @@ Yes, I agree with this. Except you say "numbers from R" which could be miss-leading if R itself is a polynomial ring or a more general ring (such as Axiom's EXPR INT). -> ...=20 +> ... > **What is differentiation in P?** ->=20 +> > (That is a bit informal here.) > Given that elements in P have finite support, we can represent > them as finite tuples. -> Let a :=3D (a_0, a_1, ..., a_n) \in P, then the (formal)=20 +> Let a := (a_0, a_1, ..., a_n) \in P, then the (formal) > derivative of a is ->=20 -> a' =3D (a_1, 2 a_2, 3 a_3, ..., n a_n) ->=20 +> +> a' = (a_1, 2 a_2, 3 a_3, ..., n a_n) +> > (Note that a_0 is missing.) ->=20 +> > If you write a as a formal sum, using the x introduced above, > you get. ->=20 -> a =3D \sum_{e=3D0}^n a_e x^e -> a' =3D \sum_{e=3D0}^{n-1} a_{e+1} x^e ->=20 +> +> a = \sum_{e=0}^n a_e x^e +> a' = \sum_{e=0}^{n-1} a_{e+1} x^e +> > just as expected. The defintion of differentiation that concerns me is specified @@ -29015,7 +17869,7 @@ to define this differentiaton as an extension of the differentiation in R (DifferentialExtension). This is what is done in some Axiom polynomial domains and not others. -> ...=20 +> ... > I think that the current implementation of polynomials in > Axiom more closely follow the formal approach. If somebody > wants polynomials to behave differently, then there should @@ -29029,18 +17883,18 @@ behave, we are trying to define how polynomials behave now in Axiom. My claim is that they do not (at least not quite) behave that way that some people here have described. So I am trying to change their description. :) -=20 + > >> I guess you know that, so there is probably a > >> misunderstanding somewhere. Just to be clear: > >> -> >> sin x + y*cos x + y^2* tan x=20 +> >> sin x + y*cos x + y^2* tan x > >> > >> is perfectly allright as a polynomial in y. -> >=20 +> > > > I agree, but it is also a perfectly good polynomial in x > > provided that it can appear as a member of the coefficient > > domain: ->=20 +> > Bill, if this is your terminology, I strongly disagree with > you. If I say something is "polynomial in x" then I mean if > the expression is written as an expression tree then in the @@ -29061,18 +17915,18 @@ My point is that this is well-defined even if the same symbol 'x' appears in both the underlying ring (i.e. in a coefficient, and as the polynomial variable. ->=20 +> > > (1) -> (sin x + y*cos x + y^2* tan x)$UP(x,EXPR INT) -> >=20 +> > > > 2 > > (1) y tan(x) + sin(x) + y cos(x) > > Type: UnivariatePolynomial(x,Expression Integer) -> >=20 +> > > > (2) -> degree % -> >=20 +> > > > (2) 0 > > Type: NonNegativeInteger ->=20 +> > Yes, Axiom is correct _and_ confusing! The confusion is relative to the presumptions that one has @@ -29081,7 +17935,7 @@ about how Axiom works... ;) > If a user want to construct something like UP(x,EXPR INT), > then he should know what he is doing. Unfortunately, beginners > probably don't know what they do when they type in -> UP(x,EXPR INT). And they will be surprise by the strange=20 +> UP(x,EXPR INT). And they will be surprise by the strange > results. Perhaps, but I do not see any reason for beginners to use @@ -29102,28 +17956,28 @@ way na=EFve users expect. On the other hand, I would be happy to see a new user interface for new Axiom users that would focus on implementing the "principle of least surprize". -> ...=20 -> Hey, if coerce: SOMETHING -> UP(x, INT) is a total function,=20 +> ... +> Hey, if coerce: SOMETHING -> UP(x, INT) is a total function, > then what does that mean? -> ...=20 -> Does someone believe that "coerce" always has to be an=20 +> ... +> Does someone believe that "coerce" always has to be an > inclusion function? > -> > ...=20 +> > ... > > 1 > > (11) - x > > x > > Type: UnivariatePolynomial(x,Expression Integer) -> >=20 +> > > > is not the same a '1$P' ->=20 +> > What does that matter? If we have two domains A and B, two > elements a \in A, b \in B, a function coerce: A->B, and -> coerce(a) =3D b. The whole relation between a and b is clear. +> coerce(a) = b. The whole relation between a and b is clear. > But where is it written, that coerce in Axiom has to be > a homomorphism? (BTW, a homomorphism of which type? > Homomorphism of rings, of groups, of sets?) ->=20 +> 'coerce' is a conversion that is intended to be automatically applied by the interpreter presumably without the risk of @@ -29138,12 +17992,12 @@ we consider the algebraic properties of the possible result For example we can coerce INT -> FLOAT but we can only convert FLOAT -> INT. -(1) -> X:INT:=3D1 +(1) -> X:INT:=1 (1) 1 Type: Integer -(2) -> Y:=3DX+1.1 +(2) -> Y:=X+1.1 (2) 2.1 <---- this is a coercion of INT to Float Type: Float @@ -29158,7 +18012,7 @@ convert FLOAT -> INT. Cannot convert from type Float to Integer for value 2.1 -(4) -> Z:Float:=3D1 +(4) -> Z:Float:=1 (4) 1.0 Type: Float @@ -29174,28 +18028,6 @@ Bill Page. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCi6u-0000nk-5o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:56:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCi6r-0000jA-VP - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:56:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCi6p-0000fK-9g - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:56:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCZvt-0004W4-9g - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCZvz-000775-68 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:12:23 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1OACDiK010695 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:12:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:12:18 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page @@ -29371,89 +18203,13 @@ But where is it written, that coerce in Axiom has to be a homomorphism? (BTW, a homomorphism of which type? Homomorphism of rings, of groups, of sets?) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCi6v-0000pu-Dy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:56:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCi6t-0000lN-1i - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:56:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCS7I-0007F3-QU - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:51:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQRR-0007oV-T7 - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:04:14 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQRS-0007qc-09 - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:04:14 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O04NXv011706; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:04:23 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:04:23 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet SparseEchelonMatrix] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetSparseEchelonMatrix/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox SparseEchelonMatrix to Jet SparseEchelonMatrix. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetSparseEchelonMatrix#msg20060223180423-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCiVO-00064f-Pi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:21:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChdG-0004b5-7q - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:25:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCckE-0005iN-La - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCZZe-0007Gr-OZ - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:49:19 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCZZk-0005UC-DP - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:49:24 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0094F3F9; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:49:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1O9oT6P001751; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:50:30 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1O9oTiY001750; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:50:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 24 Feb 2006 10:50:29 +0100 -Cc: list -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: | Hello Gaby, | @@ -29529,89 +18285,12 @@ that we can start with. Sorry it takes to long, but my TODO list seems bottomless and evergrowing priority "car"s. Babies and families usually change priorities (as you all now)... --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCiVP-00066c-Ha - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:21:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCiGi-0008WP-GG - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:06:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCS6w-00077h-Kq - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:51:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQRx-0007rM-Nl - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:04:49 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQRx-0007sB-RH - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:04:46 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O04tXv011785; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:04:55 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:04:55 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet LUDecomposition] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetLUDecomposition/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox LUDecomposition to Jet LUDecomposition. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetLUDecomposition#msg20060223180455-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCiVM-0005wK-0P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:21:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChLO-0002TU-8P - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:07:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChLJ-0002RT-EP - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:07:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FChLI-0002QV-3t - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:07:00 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCgOm-0004Dr-QL - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:06:33 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1PF2e47028975; - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:02:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0B77F404; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:06:07 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1OHsHk32406; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:54:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:54:17 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100) Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - - <200602241504.k1OF4c032349@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > Autoconf is a set of *extensible* macros. Not just because it does > not contain macro to test a particular "new" feature means it should @@ -29634,110 +18313,10 @@ I thought of trying to use the M4 macros for determining system information but eventually gave up. There are many other areas of Axiom where I can do useful work. Shell scripting isn't one of them. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCijv-00054K-Bp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:36:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FChdE-0004ZB-Lk - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:25:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCfKD-0005ef-Ja - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:57:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQOH-0007SK-BR - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:01:01 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQOH-0007iO-D8 - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:00:57 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O016Xv011190; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:01:06 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:01:06 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet Figure 5] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetFigure5/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox Jet Figure 5 to Jet Figure 5. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetFigure5#msg20060223180106-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCijz-0005CB-Q5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:36:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCijw-00054x-0y - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:36:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCWkE-0005R7-HB - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:48:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQOi-0007Vi-4t - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:01:27 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQOi-0007jx-8X - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:01:24 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O01WXv011246; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:01:32 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:01:32 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet Figure 4] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetFigure4/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox Jet Figure 4 to Jet Figure 4. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetFigure4#msg20060223180132-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCir4-00088a-Qz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCir1-00087M-TL - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCiqz-000865-IT - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCiqz-00085n-32 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:49 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCirA-0008RH-Ck - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:44:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0F91567579 - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:48 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id BFFED671F5 - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:43 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:43 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [Gcl-devel] Windows test installers CVS HEAD and 2.6.8pre -Thread-Index: AcY5cetiNSNRjHvyQNSQZ/z3mlV/PAACFlmw From: Bill Page To: "Mike Thomas" -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Windows test installers CVS HEAD and 2.6.8pre @@ -29751,57 +18330,21 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:27 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > I've put Windows test installers for GCL CVS HEAD (aka 2.7.0) and GCL > 2.6.8pre here: ->=20 +> > http://www.mijt.net/freesoftware.html ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJQ-0001A8-JK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJN-00012w-PK - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJH-0000uy-EO - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCdkP-0005zL-IZ - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCdkY-0007Oi-7H - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:50 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1OEGT9Y008620; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C847F41A; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:29 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1OF4c032349; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:04:38 -0500 +> + + + +\start Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:04:38 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 24 Feb 2006 10:50:29 +0100) Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > To a very large extent, it is less important to recognize Fedora Core 3 > (yes, that is what the current ./configure script does, but that is @@ -29817,55 +18360,14 @@ adapt to the situation. I have not seen anything in autoconf that checks these conditions. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJV-0001Ev-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJT-0001C8-8B - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJP-00017A-F5 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCf3P-00029V-OI - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:40:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCf3Z-00061f-1e - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:40:33 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74EB40F93; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:40:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1OFfY6P002665; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1OFfY1Q002664; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f To: Tim Daly Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - - <200602241504.k1OF4c032349@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > To a very large extent, it is less important to recognize Fedora Core 3 | > (yes, that is what the current ./configure script does, but that is @@ -29897,29 +18399,6 @@ that we can conduct the discussion in less abstract terms. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJm-0001el-Sr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJk-0001c4-OO - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCinH-0003Rf-8d - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:40:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCinF-0003Ov-Lj - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:39:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCinP-0008Cm-8Z - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:40:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C6A0F675AA - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:39:52 -0500 (EST) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4503F67591 - for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:39:46 -0500 (EST) - charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:39:45 -0500 Thread-Topic: about Expression Integer @@ -29928,7 +18407,7 @@ From: Bill Page To: William Sit Cc: list -William=20 +William On Friday, February 24, 2006 8:07 AM you wrote: > @@ -30023,7 +18502,7 @@ I do not see how it could possibly end of in > Note that even if the following is used, Axiom continues to > "retract" the x from 1/x to EXPR INT. This is simply wrong. > -> x:DMP([x], EXPR INT):=3Dx +> x:DMP([x], EXPR INT):=x > 2*x + 1/x > degree(%) > [1] @@ -30044,7 +18523,7 @@ it to apply the operator '/' from 'DMP([x],EXPR INT)'. > On the other hand, the following is correct, and should > be the case no matter what the coefficient domain is. > -> y:DMP([y], INT):=3Dy +> y:DMP([y], INT):=y > 2*y+1/y > > 2 @@ -30059,7 +18538,7 @@ it to apply the operator '/' from 'DMP([x],EXPR INT)'. I agree that this result is correct but I disagree that these two cases can be handled the same way (i.e. by selecting the '/' operation in 'DMP([y], INT)'. This is -not possible because Axiom cannot coerce polynomials of=20 +not possible because Axiom cannot coerce polynomials of type 'DMP([y], INT)' into 'INT'. > @@ -30073,81 +18552,10 @@ domain has 'PDRING Symbol' or at least 'PDRING OVAR vl' where 'vl' is polynomial variable list. Apparently Axiom attempts to use it during the function selection process. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjgh-0001fB-JO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:37:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCjJE-0000ru-90 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:13:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCXgp-0000U4-SH - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:48:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQa6-0000EO-06 - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:13:10 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQa6-0008U9-8q - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:13:10 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O0DIXv013801; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:13:18 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:13:18 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [AxiomContributions] links updated after rename - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomContributions/diff --- - -++added: -[Jet Bundles] -- Basic data structures and procedures for jet bundles. -Copyright (c) 1993, Joachim Schue, Werner M. 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William, @@ -30207,7 +18615,7 @@ symbols and variables. By definition Symbols are constants and can not be assigned values. Operations like - =3D : (Symbol,Symbol) -> Boolean + = : (Symbol,Symbol) -> Boolean compare one symbol to another. There are other operations that construct new symbols possibly with sub/super-scripts etc. It @@ -30219,8 +18627,8 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/SymbolSpad But of course ultimately all Symbols are represented and manipulated by Lisp, e.g.: - coerce(s:String):% =3D=3D VALUES(INTERN(s)$Lisp)$Lisp - x =3D y =3D=3D EQUAL(x,y)$Lisp + coerce(s:String):% == VALUES(INTERN(s)$Lisp)$Lisp + x = y == EQUAL(x,y)$Lisp Variables also form a domain in Axiom: @@ -30400,7 +18808,7 @@ P(x,INT)) Type: Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,Integer) > and the Interpreter probably simplified POLY POLY INT to -> POLY INT). In other words, we have ((1/x ?)::(?/x)::(x/x)=3D1. +> POLY INT). In other words, we have ((1/x ?)::(?/x)::(x/x)=1. > The bug therefore probably lies in the identification of > POLY POLY INT with POLY INT where the outer ? (or x) is > identified with x of the inner POLY. @@ -30445,120 +18853,11 @@ to analyze than the simple package call. I think that this is simply not possible in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkA6-0005I2-6b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCfKL-0005iY-TO - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:57:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCc0O-0007H9-MW - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:25:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQPb-0007cp-AV - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:02:20 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQPb-0007lw-Ee - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:02:19 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O02SXv011375; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:02:28 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:02:28 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Aldor Jet Sparse] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AldorJetSparse/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox Aldor Sparse to Aldor Jet Sparse. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AldorJetSparse#msg20060223180228-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkA7-0005K6-9v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCk9z-00055s-OF - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCS6L-0006wc-4E - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:50:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQQx-0007md-Kb - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:03:51 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQQx-0007p2-Ol - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:03:43 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O03qXv011507; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:03:52 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:03:52 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet VectorField] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetVectorField/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox VectorField to Jet VectorField. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetVectorField#msg20060223180352-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkA9-0005Lr-71 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkA3-0005Eo-UZ - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCXgq-0000VP-T8 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:48:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCWpV-00016j-RR - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:53:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCWpZ-0002Gl-N5 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:53:34 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B514F3C1; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:53:23 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1O6se6P001200; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:54:41 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1O6seq3001199; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:54:40 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 24 Feb 2006 07:54:40 +0100 -Cc: list David Mentre writes: @@ -30567,7 +18866,7 @@ David Mentre writes: | I looked at the ./configure script so I can reply more specifically | now. | -| root Tim Daly writes: +| Tim Daly writes: | | > The issue, as i understand it, is not that the configure script | > doesn't work on the systems where it was tested. The issue is that @@ -30630,32 +18929,6 @@ who have faced and experienced wild shell variation issues. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAK-0005ZC-5f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAE-0005RW-BT - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAA-0005MS-5D - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:07:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FChL5-0002FH-T9 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:06:48 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCgig-00062Q-V4 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:27:07 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A42E4F401; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:26:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1OHS76P003066; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1OHS7Vl003065; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f To: Tim Daly Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure @@ -30673,9 +18946,9 @@ Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure <200602241754.k1OHsHk32406@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -30689,73 +18962,12 @@ complete description of the system information you'd want to extract, I or any other person familiar with Autoconf may help implement the specification. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAj-0005q9-Kv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:08:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAd-0005lk-UO - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:08:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCj4e-0000uB-Hj - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:57:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQU0-0008AQ-3v - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQU0-000884-Ce - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:52 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O070Xv012365; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:07:00 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:07:00 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [JetBundleCategory] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetBundleCategory/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox JetBundleCategory to JetBundleCategory. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetBundleCategory#msg20060223180700-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAt-0005x1-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:08:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAq-0005u0-Uf - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:08:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkAn-0005sa-0n - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:08:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCYnJ-0005hD-Of - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:59:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCYnP-00025G-18 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:59:27 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O8xVXv026365; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:59:31 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:59:31 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Streams] infinite streams -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams/diff --- unknown asked: > how AXIOM can find out when complete has computed all @@ -30788,41 +19000,12 @@ So I withdraw my statement: > (which is read: such that) are equivalent. 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On 02/24/2006 01:14 PM, William Sit wrote: > A big big question in computer algebra should be how to handle "canonically @@ -30859,117 +19042,13 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDesignDecisions and list such design issues as William gave in his mail. That would be a common denominator that all Axiom developers should agree on. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCkrc-0001sF-QA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:52:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCinM-0003eV-Tq - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:40:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCVod-0007ru-DE - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:48:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCQUq-0008CM-TK - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:07:45 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCQUr-0008AV-4h - for list; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:07:45 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1O07sXv012549; - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:07:54 -0600 -From: MathAction (billpage) -To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:07:54 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Jet DifferentialEquation] (renamed) - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetDifferentialEquation/diff --- -This page was renamed from SandBox DifferentialEquation to Jet DifferentialEquation. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/JetDifferentialEquation#msg20060223180754-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCl6T-0003ah-E6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:07:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCl6Q-0003XP-KZ - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:07:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCinL-0003cY-U8 - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:40:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCa6Z-0004uj-SL - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:23:21 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FCa6g-00088i-0r - for list; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:23:26 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1OANFXv001898; - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:23:15 -0600 -From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) -To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:23:15 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [Streams] correction of typos - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Streams/diff --- - -??changed: --In contract, a **set** is a collection of elements where duplication -In contrast, a **set** is a collection of elements where duplication - -??changed: --of a stream.Use: -of a stream. 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- Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:39:58 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction (MathAction) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:39:58 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x - x = 1 is a bug! +Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a bug! -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- > Users should not use the same identifier for two different objects. consider that this is COMPUTATIONAL mathematics. the user has to know @@ -30981,41 +19060,11 @@ error. removing simplification of type towers would significantly reduce the usefulness of axiom. -t - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg200602242327.k1ONRoS32605@localhost.localdomain - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCm2F-0004ue-Uc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:07:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCm2A-0004h6-Bn - for list; 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Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:43:28 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> @@ -31561,14 +19438,26 @@ Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - <200602241504.k1OF4c032349@localhost.localdomain> - - <200602241754.k1OHsHk32406@localhost.localdomain> - + <3d13dcfc0602240203j279b7513y@mail.gmail.com> +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +Date: 25 Feb 2006 07:14:03 +0100 +Cc: list + +David Mentre writes: + +| [1] The Makefile.pamphlet says "Fedora Core 3 needs special GCL +| options for local bfd." but it does not say *why* the local bfd is +| necessary. + +Tim -- + + Could you enlighten us on this? + +\start +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure From: David Mentre Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:43:28 +0100 - Reis's message of "24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100") -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -31580,111 +19469,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: Or any person willing to be familiar with Autoconf. ;) -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FCzsk-0008Re-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Errors-To: axiom-developer-bounces+wyscc=cunyvm.cuny.edu@nongnu.org -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- -I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to stand for two -different 'variables' in two different domains (either accidentally or on -purpose) has been thoroughly discussed, but not quite. Note that I distinguish -'identifier' from 'variable'. We have two variables, usually one internally -denoted by the 'Symbol' 'x' and another unspecified as ? (as in 'UP(x,INT)') -where ? does NOT exist but can either be printed as ? or any identifier the user -prefers, such as 'x'. As any one who does programming should know, the same -'identifier' should never be used to denote two different objects (at least not -within the same scope). By the way, this design is in some sense ingenious, and -necessary, to allow extending a polynomial ring that already has all the symbols -as variables; such extension is useful in testing radical ideal membership of -polynomial rings, and intersections of polynomial ideals, for example. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD7UF-0006Qw-NF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:02:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD7U5-0006OF-DT - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:01:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD7Tx-0006Mn-EI - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:01:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD7Tv-0006Ln-0O - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:01:39 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FD7UI-0001zR-8j - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:02:02 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337A440E1E; - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:01:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1PM2e6P008550; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:02:41 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1PM2e1j008549; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:02:40 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to +stand for two different 'variables' in two different domains (either +accidentally or on purpose) has been thoroughly discussed, but not +quite. Note that I distinguish 'identifier' from 'variable'. We have +two variables, usually one internally denoted by the 'Symbol' 'x' and +another unspecified as ? (as in 'UP(x,INT)') where ? does NOT exist +but can either be printed as ? or any identifier the user prefers, +such as 'x'. As any one who does programming should know, the same +'identifier' should never be used to denote two different objects (at +least not within the same scope). By the way, this design is in some +sense ingenious, and necessary, to allow extending a polynomial ring +that already has all the symbols as variables; such extension is +useful in testing radical ideal membership of polynomial rings, and +intersections of polynomial ideals, for example. + +\start To: William Sit Subject: Re: delayed distribution of mail From: Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -31853,38 +19571,31 @@ just me... \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD8LF-0002U5-W3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD8L5-0002Jh-Vs - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD8L0-0002Et-GB - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD8Ky-0002Dm-PC - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:29 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FD8LM-00058A-56 - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:56:52 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1PMuSXv021964; - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:56:28 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:56:28 -0600 Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a feature(?) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- -> Now Axiom having been forced to output the same identifier for two different variables, the first x bound to a variable in FRAC POLY INT, and the second x bound to the main variable of ULS, should NOT then simplify the expression 1/x x of (3) to 1. - -I have examined this simplification more closely. As discussed in another email, this is actually done by invoking a substitution map: briefly, the x in ULS is being substituted by the x in FRAC POLY INT. I think this is unwarranted "smartness" by the Interpreter (this is a "lesser crime" than a "bug"). Of course, as Tim said above, this is secondary error due to an error by the user. It would be a legitimate substitution if a user initiated it. I believe the automatic substitution would not be done in the compiler (that is, the coercion would be flagged). - -The Axiom compiler, as far as I can tell, scoped the two x's correctly. It is the automatic substitution by the Interpreter due to a request to coerce that yields the answer 1. Whether you call this a feature or a bug is up to you. Users beware. +> Now Axiom having been forced to output the same identifier for two + different variables, the first x bound to a variable in FRAC POLY + INT, and the second x bound to the main variable of ULS, should NOT + then simplify the expression 1/x x of (3) to 1. + +I have examined this simplification more closely. As discussed in +another email, this is actually done by invoking a substitution map: +briefly, the x in ULS is being substituted by the x in FRAC POLY +INT. I think this is unwarranted "smartness" by the Interpreter (this +is a "lesser crime" than a "bug"). Of course, as Tim said above, this +is secondary error due to an error by the user. It would be a +legitimate substitution if a user initiated it. I believe the +automatic substitution would not be done in the compiler (that is, the +coercion would be flagged). + +The Axiom compiler, as far as I can tell, scoped the two x's +correctly. It is the automatic substitution by the Interpreter due to +a request to coerce that yields the answer 1. Whether you call this a +feature or a bug is up to you. Users beware. William @@ -32152,7 +19863,7 @@ Subject: Re: 1/x x = 1 is a bug! Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:58:19 -0500 From: Bill Page To: "William Sit" William Sit -CC: , Bill Page,Martin Rubey,"Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, Francois Maltey +CC: , Bill Page,Martin Rubey,Ralf Hemmecke, Francois Maltey William, @@ -32449,79 +20160,11 @@ to analyze than the simple package call. I think that this is simply not possible in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060225165622-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD9KV-00004y-OZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:00:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD9KO-0008VG-TF - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:59:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FD9KM-0008Ug-JX - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD9KL-0008UM-B4 - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:59:53 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FD9Kj-0008BK-GE - for list; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:00:17 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1PNxuXv003369; 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Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:10:07 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1QA9RXv001798; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:09:27 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:09:27 -0600 @@ -33173,16 +20725,63 @@ Cc: Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] These examples are wrong and due to user and Interpreter errors. -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial/diff --- -The fact that one can "explain" what the Axiom's Interpreter does to an input does not make its operation legitimate. Even though 'EXPR INT' (and similarly 'POLY INT') is designed to include 'Symbol' (that means *all* symbols corresponding to all legal identifiers, including those decorated with subscripts or superscripts), it is never the intention that no other symbols can be used *outside* of 'EXPR INT' or 'POLY INT'. That is why it is legal to construct 'DMP([x,y], EXPR INT)' in the above examples. However, in mathematics, a polynomial ring $P$ over a coefficient domain $R$ in the variables $[x,y]$, say, means that $x,y$ are indeterminates and therefore are algebraically independent over $R$. In particular, $x,y$ **cannot** be elements of $R$. - -The above examples, such as $x+x$, where the two $x$'s have to be differentiated as belonging to two different domains is nonsense. Any scientific literate user who writes $x+x$ intend the expression to simplify to $2x$ because the $x$ **MUST** represent the *same* mathematical quantity. Axiom's Interpreter, in producing $x+x$ in the examples, violates this universally accepted convention and the definition of indeterminates. These violations are **not acceptable**. - -In short, the error occurs because the Interpreter, unaware of the definition of indeterminates, "coerces" $x$ from $P$ to $R$, but there is *no* 'coerce' function with signature 'P -> R' even when 'R' is 'EXPR INT' or 'POLY INT'. The situation for 'EXPR INT' is harder to investigate since 'EXPR INT' is implemented as the quotient field of a polynomial ring. So rational functions are easily coerced into 'EXPR INT' and the Interpreter will not spit out information on how it does this even with ')set mess bot on'. For the 'POLY INT' case, a careful examination (see http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS) shows that it actually invokes a *substitution* of $x$ in $P$ (I'll label this $x_P$) by replacing it with another $x$ in $R$ (I'll label this $x_R$). Substitutions are perfectly legal operations, but the Interpreter should not substitute for one $x_P$ and not another. This happened in the computation of 'b' above. The division 'a/x' is taken with signature '/:(P,R)! -->P' because 'R' is a field, but in doing so, the Interpreter selectively *substitute* (under the mask of *coerce*) the denominator $x_P$ (actually, here, it is probably an 'x' in 'POLY INT' coerced into $x_R$ because 'x' has not been defined except as a 'Symbol', but I will assume that 'x' has been defined as in 'x:P:=x' so that the denominator in 'b=a/x' is undoubtedly $x_P$) but not the numerator 'a'. So the two $x$'s in 'a/x' are treated as different (first violation) and then one $x_P$' is allowed to be pushed down into the coefficient domain 'R' even though it is transcendental over 'R' (second violation). - -Unfortunately, these bugs are difficult to correct. The Interpreter was designed to faciliate conversions among any two polynomial rings and their quotient fields. Had the above 'coerce' been from 'DMP([x,y], R)' to 'FRAC DMP([x,y], R)' (the correct coercion) or even 'EXPR R', things would have been ok. But the designers wrongly disallowed construction of 'EXPR EXPR INT' and similar towers. The correct fix should therefore be coercion to 'FRAC DMP([x,y], R' no matter what 'R' is. This is consistent with mathematics, since if $a \in P$ when $P$ is an integral domain, then $1/a$ should be in the quotient field of $P$. The examples below illustrate these incorrect and correct approaches. +The fact that one can "explain" what the Axiom's Interpreter does to +an input does not make its operation legitimate. Even though 'EXPR +INT' (and similarly 'POLY INT') is designed to include 'Symbol' (that +means *all* symbols corresponding to all legal identifiers, including +those decorated with subscripts or superscripts), it is never the +intention that no other symbols can be used *outside* of 'EXPR INT' or +'POLY INT'. That is why it is legal to construct 'DMP([x,y], EXPR +INT)' in the above examples. However, in mathematics, a polynomial +ring $P$ over a coefficient domain $R$ in the variables $[x,y]$, say, +means that $x,y$ are indeterminates and therefore are algebraically +independent over $R$. In particular, $x,y$ **cannot** be elements of +$R$. + +The above examples, such as $x+x$, where the two $x$'s have to be +differentiated as belonging to two different domains is nonsense. Any +scientific literate user who writes $x+x$ intend the expression to +simplify to $2x$ because the $x$ **MUST** represent the *same* +mathematical quantity. Axiom's Interpreter, in producing $x+x$ in the +examples, violates this universally accepted convention and the +definition of indeterminates. These violations are **not acceptable**. + +In short, the error occurs because the Interpreter, unaware of the +definition of indeterminates, "coerces" $x$ from $P$ to $R$, but there +is *no* 'coerce' function with signature 'P -> R' even when 'R' is +'EXPR INT' or 'POLY INT'. The situation for 'EXPR INT' is harder to +investigate since 'EXPR INT' is implemented as the quotient field of a +polynomial ring. So rational functions are easily coerced into 'EXPR +INT' and the Interpreter will not spit out information on how it does +this even with ')set mess bot on'. For the 'POLY INT' case, a careful +examination (see http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS) +shows that it actually invokes a *substitution* of $x$ in $P$ (I'll +label this $x_P$) by replacing it with another $x$ in $R$ (I'll label +this $x_R$). Substitutions are perfectly legal operations, but the +Interpreter should not substitute for one $x_P$ and not another. This +happened in the computation of 'b' above. The division 'a/x' is taken +with signature '/:(P,R)! ->P' because 'R' is a field, but in doing +so, the Interpreter selectively *substitute* (under the mask of +*coerce*) the denominator $x_P$ (actually, here, it is probably an 'x' +in 'POLY INT' coerced into $x_R$ because 'x' has not been defined +except as a 'Symbol', but I will assume that 'x' has been defined as +in 'x:P:=x' so that the denominator in 'b=a/x' is undoubtedly $x_P$) +but not the numerator 'a'. So the two $x$'s in 'a/x' are treated as +different (first violation) and then one $x_P$' is allowed to be +pushed down into the coefficient domain 'R' even though it is +transcendental over 'R' (second violation). + +Unfortunately, these bugs are difficult to correct. The Interpreter +was designed to faciliate conversions among any two polynomial rings +and their quotient fields. Had the above 'coerce' been from +'DMP([x,y], R)' to 'FRAC DMP([x,y], R)' (the correct coercion) or even +'EXPR R', things would have been ok. But the designers wrongly +disallowed construction of 'EXPR EXPR INT' and similar towers. The +correct fix should therefore be coercion to 'FRAC DMP([x,y], R' no +matter what 'R' is. This is consistent with mathematics, since if $a +\in P$ when $P$ is an integral domain, then $1/a$ should be in the +quotient field of $P$. The examples below illustrate these incorrect +and correct approaches. \begin{axiom} S:=FRAC POLY INT @@ -33201,7 +20800,13 @@ The last output from the ')set mess bot on' output:: (Fraction (DistributedMultivariatePolynomial (x) (Polynomial (Integer)))) from FRAC2(DMP([x],POLY INT),POLY INT) -shows clearly (this is a much simplified version of what actually is done, which involves 4 "coercions") that the coercion from 'DMP([x], FRAC POLY INT)' to "FRAC POLY INT' for the denominator 'a' is really a substitution, implemented using the 'map' function from 'FRAC2' package, taking $1/x_Q$ to $1/x_S$ via the substitution $x_Q$ to $x_S$. If we replace 'S' by 'POLY INT', the coercion would be simpler, but then 'S' is not a field. +shows clearly (this is a much simplified version of what actually is +done, which involves 4 "coercions") that the coercion from 'DMP([x], +FRAC POLY INT)' to "FRAC POLY INT' for the denominator 'a' is really a +substitution, implemented using the 'map' function from 'FRAC2' +package, taking $1/x_Q$ to $1/x_S$ via the substitution $x_Q$ to +$x_S$. If we replace 'S' by 'POLY INT', the coercion would be +simpler, but then 'S' is not a field. \begin{axiom} )clear all @@ -33212,121 +20817,22 @@ a:Q:=x b:Q:=a/a \end{axiom} -Surprise! The difference in the value of 'b' just because the coefficient ring was changed is not acceptable, but at least in this case, the answer and indeed the coercions are correct. Had the other cases used the same coercion into the quotient field of 'P' (or 'Q'), they would be correct too. Now have fun with the quizzes in SandBoxPolynomials. - -William --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial#msg20060226040920-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDIt0-0005Ai-2l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:12:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDIst-00057c-6L - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:12:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDIsl-00054N-Mq - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:12:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDIsj-00053f-Iy - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:12:02 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDItC-00034n-Az - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:12:30 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1QABrXv002226; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:11:53 -0600 -From: MathAction (wyscc) -To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:11:53 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] These - examples are wrong and due to Interpreter errors. - -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial/diff --- - -??changed: --Subject: These examples are wrong and due to user and Interpreter errors. -Subject: These examples are wrong and due to Interpreter errors. +Surprise! The difference in the value of 'b' just because the +coefficient ring was changed is not acceptable, but at least in this +case, the answer and indeed the coercions are correct. Had the other +cases used the same coercion into the quotient field of 'P' (or 'Q'), +they would be correct too. Now have fun with the quizzes in +SandBoxPolynomials. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial#msg20060226041153-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDJXl-0000l7-B2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:54:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDJXb-0000hI-Ae - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:54:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDJXU-0000fj-BM - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDJXQ-0000ef-9f - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:54:04 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDJXt-0005DJ-Ac - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:54:33 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1QArvXv028828; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:53:57 -0600 +\start From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:53:57 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] typos -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS/diff --- - -++added: -
    - -??changed: --(c) In the second line, Axiom fails (correctly) because the integral, which is 'log(x)', which is not given by a Laurent series about 'x=0'. A better example is: (c) In the second line, Axiom fails (correctly) because the integral, which is 'log(x)', is not given by a Laurent series about 'x=0'. A better example is: -??changed: --stumbles onto these constructions. -stumble onto these constructions. - --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/270IntegratingUTS#msg20060226045357-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLes-00006U-Fk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLem-00005E-4p - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLeE-0008Li-EG - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDLeC-0008L9-1p - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:12 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDLeg-0004nl-0K - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:42 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1QD8viK020608 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:08:58 +0100 +\start Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:22:23 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: axiom-dev @@ -33362,28 +20868,6 @@ see algebra source code for TUPLE \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLf0-00009e-0x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:10:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLep-00006L-6n - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLeE-0008Lz-Tc - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDLeB-0008L3-S8; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:12 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) - id 1FDLef-0004oG-Hr; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:09:41 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1QD91iK020614 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:09:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:23:08 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey @@ -33554,78 +21038,26 @@ memory in order to store the tuple/array. I hope, that helps. I'm sure you can translate the above code into something that concatenates vectors. -Ralf - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDM7s-0007u2-TY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:39:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDM7g-0007qU-0I - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:39:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDM7a-0007oN-1r - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:39:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDM7R-0007mc-NX - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:39:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDM7w-0006rq-1R - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:39:56 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1QDdJXv013198; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:39:19 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:39:19 -0600 Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor/diff --- -Axiom basically stayed stagnant for many years and it took a tremendous effort (due to Tim Daly, Bill Page, Camm Maquire and others) to bring it back to life. If Aldor does not become free, it may suffer the same fate. Both Axiom and Aldor have their own strengths and weaknesses. Combined, they can become a most powerful system. There are so few experts in Aldor and Axiom. It is high time to involve a younger generation before it is too late. +Axiom basically stayed stagnant for many years and it took a +tremendous effort (due to Tim Daly, Bill Page, Camm Maquire and +others) to bring it back to life. If Aldor does not become free, it +may suffer the same fate. Both Axiom and Aldor have their own +strengths and weaknesses. Combined, they can become a most powerful +system. There are so few experts in Aldor and Axiom. It is high time +to involve a younger generation before it is too late. -William Sit --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FreeAldor#msg20060226073918-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDMcQ-0007yV-V7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:11:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDMc9-0007tw-2f - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:11:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDMbv-0007qq-PS - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:11:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDMbo-0007q2-P3 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:10:50 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.48] (helo=vms048pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDMcJ-0000eQ-B0 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:11:19 -0500 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([141.155.143.72]) - by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IVA007RTSPD8Y99@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:10:39 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:10:59 -0500 From: William Sit Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Message-id: <4401B6F3.1F38AF4E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list - - Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > In the impressive diagram titled "Basic Agebra Hierarchy" displayed @@ -33637,55 +21069,30 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Does anyone know the reason of those curiosities? -One probable reason may be the convention in mathematics to use + instead of * -when a semigroup, monoid, or group is abelian. Another is the independence -allows for the category of rings without having to overload the * operation for -both the underlying abelian group and the multiplicative monoid, which would -have been very confusing! A third one is because addition is an ubiquitous -operation in many algebraic objects (vector space, modules, rings, algebras, -etc.) with richer structures. - -The second is the most compelling. It can be generalized to a principle for -setting up new basic categories: every time a set is equipped with a new -(usually binary) operation with some axioms to satisfy, a new category that -encapsulates the operation with a new notation is necessary in order to allow -for simultaneous operations on the same set, providing a rich algebraic -structure. An example would be Lie algebras which have at least an addition, a -multiplication, and the Lie bracket. Square matrices of a fixed size form a Lie -algebra. +One probable reason may be the convention in mathematics to use + +instead of * when a semigroup, monoid, or group is abelian. Another is +the independence allows for the category of rings without having to +overload the * operation for both the underlying abelian group and the +multiplicative monoid, which would have been very confusing! A third +one is because addition is an ubiquitous operation in many algebraic +objects (vector space, modules, rings, algebras, etc.) with richer +structures. + +The second is the most compelling. It can be generalized to a +principle for setting up new basic categories: every time a set is +equipped with a new (usually binary) operation with some axioms to +satisfy, a new category that encapsulates the operation with a new +notation is necessary in order to allow for simultaneous operations on +the same set, providing a rich algebraic structure. An example would +be Lie algebras which have at least an addition, a multiplication, and +the Lie bracket. Square matrices of a fixed size form a Lie algebra. William - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOsJ-0006EI-GE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:35:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOsE-0006Cp-QZ - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:35:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOsA-0006Ak-As - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:35:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDOs8-0006AE-Sk - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:35:49 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDOse-0003Ea-CL - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:36:20 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id - k1QGZciK028451 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:35:38 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:35:52 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit - <44014B76.1DAFD7F2@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: list Subject: precedence.as Hi William, @@ -33754,42 +21161,11 @@ main(): () == { main(); - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOy7-0007g7-0c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:41:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOy0-0007fK-Sk - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:41:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDOxv-0007eu-Mu - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:41:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDOxs-0007eU-4d - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:41:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDOyN-0003UK-KY - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:42:15 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9900740E4F; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:41:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1QGge6P012008; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:42:41 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1QGgeZD012007; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:42:40 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f To: William Sit Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures - <4401B6F3.1F38AF4E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Feb 2006 17:42:40 +0100 -Cc: list - Hello Willian, @@ -33891,28 +21267,6 @@ neutral elements e : NN :-) \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDP1o-0000IB-GL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:45:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDP1f-0000Ez-AO - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:45:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDP1a-0000DD-HJ - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:45:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDP1W-0000BL-MV - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:45:31 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp3.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDP22-0003oM-E2 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:46:02 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D8A31C00564 - for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:45:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-46-243.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-46-243.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.200.243]) - by mwinf0301.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 13D0E1C0055F - for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:45:22 +0100 (CET) From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem To: axiom-developer Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:45:22 +0100 @@ -33958,48 +21312,12 @@ Is it possible ? Another question, where can i find (in src/interp) the code responsible of this coercion ? Tim any idea ? - - -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDQUd-0007Y6-78 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDQUU-0007XD-7X - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDQUK-0007Uz-5i - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDQUE-0007U3-E7 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDQUk-0001QK-PZ - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:19:47 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1QIJ6Xv019629; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:19:06 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:19:06 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#271 )show Expression Boolean gives a list] - (new) -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/271ShowExpressionBooleanGivesAList/diff --- As I was looking for boolean simplification, I type )sh Expression Boolean. I get the list of the real expressions. So I type @@ -34014,42 +21332,11 @@ Caught fatal error [memory may be damaged]... 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Grozin To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures -Cc: list On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > In the impressive diagram titled "Basic Agebra Hierarchy" displayed @@ -34067,39 +21354,12 @@ from both of them, inheriting * (maybe non-commutative) from SemiGroup and My copy of the Axiom book is in my office, and I am writing from home, so, details may be wrong. -Andrey - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRCr-00037E-GO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:05:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRCe-00032r-Pa - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:05:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRCW-0002yg-BY - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:05:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDRCU-0002y8-8v - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.186] (helo=web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDRD1-0003r5-01 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:05:31 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32822 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2006 19:04:47 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=QAR5v9RGXR6Wk0aQ48d0GLpwNQmjDrdnKurYqOQwMUJwtMZbRTxOJEP7xae0YP38Pfacg6SMQFrkVD2BDe+L7P/fMeaoUjwxSufmCvINwT5S7BVl9esrf6wOh2xfTjcO0R50Pgm6ZzPafsTKAmTk+CvE92yUpAczb4/8OKV+8i0= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:04:47 PST +\start Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:04:47 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre If it's anything like the GCL+localbfd issues I ran into, I think it went something like this: @@ -34124,66 +21384,23 @@ http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gcl-devel/2004-08/msg00033.html Cheers, CY ---- root Tim Daly wrote: +--- Tim Daly wrote: > actually, no. i don't remember (thus, proving that documentation is > vital) why the locbfd was chosen. there was an issue that arose about > building GCL on FC3 which went on between Camm and I but I no longer > have the emails. it may be somewhere in the mailing list archives. > at this point it falls to superstition ("because it works"). -> -> t -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRQ1-0007GS-NZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:18:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRPy-0007F4-CQ - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:18:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRPv-0007EB-Ro - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:18:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDRPu-0007E0-Ba - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:18:51 -0500 -Received: from [68.142.201.181] (helo=web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDRQR-0004oY-5d - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:19:23 -0500 -Received: (qmail 36700 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2006 19:18:42 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=Jr489KBx/fgLOY6b80e27QRRJHPRfQW0hjygnTSQSO6BHYu8qQMGHIV5F+FL6xJGW/kjIKMbdctDkvVnlnKbzNlPSi+nvxis0h4XG1L0GcKQmKMyCxk30JL28Eokerrd+gWBUd2w2gNxVUyt2T9i+JJiYNOMat+UK5AMCF3UzpI= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:18:42 PST Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list Subject: Re: A axiom package, itovsn3 - Neat! Does anybody know the license status for this project? Could we include the paper and code as a literate document? -Cheers, -CY - --- unknown wrote: > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity/diff @@ -34198,93 +21415,21 @@ CY > future, I will add a part how to use Axiom+itovsn3 to solve SDE. > Welcome all interesting readers to use. > -> cchuang_at_mail.cgu.edu.tw -> -- -> forwarded from -> -http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity#msg20060222065313-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRoq-0003Ta-Jc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:44:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRof-0003SI-4W - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:44:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDRlA-0002rT-1X - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:44:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDRl4-0002qF-MA - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:40:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDRlb-0007LN-OD - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:41:15 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FE04F3AA; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:40:23 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1QJfc6P012572; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:41:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1QJfceh012571; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:41:38 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f + +\start +Date: 26 Feb 2006 20:41:38 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Feb 2006 20:41:38 +0100 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com - +Cc: list, David Mentre That helps me a lot. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDSut-0002tK-S7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDSuh-0002mC-1r - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDSuS-0002eA-Ku - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDSuP-0002bo-3s - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:26 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDSuw-000560-Nb - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:58 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1QKrnrK006470; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:54:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:53:31 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: about Expression Integer (with Quizzes) -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:53:31 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On February 26, 2006 1:32 AM William Sit wrote: > > @@ -34414,43 +21559,9 @@ I missed that last one on purpose. ;) > than scratching my head again, I'll wait for the "guru"s to tell > me.) -Bring them on! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDTKu-0003eb-EW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:21:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDTKj-0003dC-GK - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:21:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDTHc-00030b-7l - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:21:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDTHX-0002zc-Bx - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:18:20 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDTI5-0006wB-6o - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:18:53 -0500 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1QLIBn2030239 - for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:18:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2D97F415 - for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:18:11 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1QM6FP09132; - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:06:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:06:15 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: Axiom Tutorial translation @@ -34467,47 +21578,22 @@ Currently I publish the tutorial on lulu.com and all of the proceeds from the sale of the book will be given to the axiom foundation. it is up to you what you decide to do with any profit you might make. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDXXX-0008GT-1L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:51:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDXXR-0008EU-5v - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:51:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDXXM-0008DK-Ek - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:50:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDXXK-0008Ct-56 - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:50:55 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDXXt-0007BO-SH - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:51:30 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1R1oNfp011674; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:50:40 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Compiler coercion and DoubleFloat Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:50:21 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Compiler coercion and DoubleFloat On February 26, 2006 11:45 AM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > Is it possible to avoid this compiler coercion ? ->=20 +> > The code is: -> R =3D=3D> DoubleFloat -> two4: R :=3D 24.0 -> fourty: R :=3D 40.0::R -> exp40: R :=3D 235385266837019985.41::R ->=20 +> R ==> DoubleFloat +> two4: R := 24.0 +> fourty: R := 40.0::R +> exp40: R := 235385266837019985.41::R +> It is not necessary to write this as a coercion. Try @@ -34516,36 +21602,11 @@ It is not necessary to write this as a coercion. Try 'float' is the function defined in the domain DoubleFloat that is analogous to the one in Float. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDY4K-0005S3-Jg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:25:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDY4D-0005Nv-Pt - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDY49-0005LX-2u - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDY46-0005KD-Fn - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDY4g-0000ym-IY - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:25:22 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k1R2OCF0028134; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:28 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:10 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures On February 26, 2006 11:43 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -34603,51 +21664,13 @@ to the SPAD programmer to include appropriate code such as if D has associate("*"::Symbol) then ... -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDZgL-0000XS-9a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDZgB-0000QX-9o - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDZfv-0000BN-Np - for list; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDZfu-0000As-T1 - for list; 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However, then there is need that someone implements these ideas into the compiler. Who? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDjlV-0007th-D8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:54:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDjlO-0007sM-EN - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:54:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDjgl-00069v-0c - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:54:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDjgi-00068R-FE - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:49:25 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDjhO-0006H9-3o - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:50:06 -0500 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1REn9Th009869; - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:49:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-16-252.zoominternet.net [72.23.16.252]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D247F408; - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:49:09 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k1RFbEY09601; - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:37:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:37:14 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: about Expression Integer (with Quizzes) -Cc: list ok, time for me to weigh in on this subject.... but i will do it at a meta-level. @@ -34955,46 +21888,11 @@ anyway, i don't see that it is possible to resolve this debate. you are all arguing from different semantic contexts. until you agree to use the same assumptions there is no resolution. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDkv6-0002xh-R1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:08:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDkuu-0002tg-SK - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:08:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FDkuU-0002jV-7m - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:08:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FDkuQ-0002hx-Pq - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:07:39 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDkv6-0004wB-Px - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:08:21 -0500 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DFA40F5A; - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:07:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k1RG8R6P016559; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:08:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k1RG8RPj016558; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:08:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 27 Feb 2006 17:08:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures - <4401B6F3.1F38AF4E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - - <4402D6B0.2090006@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Feb 2006 17:08:27 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -35090,38 +21988,12 @@ challenging. Anyway, I have searched the literature for the descirption of Axiom/Adlor type system as implemented, I have found nothing that could assist me. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEArn-0008D9-2w - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:50:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEArb-0008B9-GU - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:50:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEArW-00089V-FV - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:50:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FEArV-00086P-5b - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:50:21 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FDnfC-00037k-Vb - for list; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:04:07 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1RJ3IXv027642; - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:03:18 -0600 +Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:03:18 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:03:18 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] no surprise -Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial/diff --- The evaluation of '1/x x' in 'DistributedMultivariatePolynomial([x]?,Polynomial Integer)' is equivalent '1' but it is not equivalent to '1' in @@ -35129,38 +22001,11 @@ is equivalent '1' but it is not equivalent to '1' in It is precisely because the coefficient ring is different. This is completely acceptable to me. --- -forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DistributedMultivariatePolynomial#msg20060227130317-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEIw6-0001fp-JV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEIw3-0001db-3f - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FEIw0-0001bh-Ea - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FEIvz-0001b5-4F - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:31 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FEIx9-0001K5-Rg - for list; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:28:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k214R3ct005270; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:27:19 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis, - "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures +\start Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:26:56 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures On February 27, 2006 11:08 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: diff --git a/book/2006-03.txt b/book/2006-03.txt index 9186136..7fd804d 100644 --- a/book/2006-03.txt +++ b/book/2006-03.txt @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:40:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Bug in Tuple -Cc: Stephen Watt , +Cc: Stephen Watt, 'axiom-dev' , aldor-l@aldor.org On 02/27/2006 09:57 PM, Bill Page wrote: @@ -476,7 +476,7 @@ Received: by 10.49.64.12 with SMTP id r12mr1809751nfk; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:49:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:49:09 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Renaming at inheritance (was: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures) @@ -1297,7 +1297,7 @@ Received: by 10.49.41.4 with SMTP id t4mr438505nfj; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:26:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:26:57 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure @@ -4330,7 +4330,7 @@ It might be a source of inspiration and/or code for Axiom. Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -4443,7 +4443,7 @@ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:40:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Bug in Tuple -Cc: Stephen Watt , +Cc: Stephen Watt, 'axiom-dev' , aldor-l@aldor.org On 02/27/2006 09:57 PM, Bill Page wrote: @@ -5798,7 +5798,7 @@ Received: by 10.48.226.13 with SMTP id y13mr2712213nfg; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.1.11 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:03:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:03:17 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> @@ -7254,7 +7254,7 @@ Received: by 10.49.15.1 with SMTP id s1mr2873206nfi; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.1.9 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 09:56:05 +0100 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "JC Helary" <2E60EFA4-0939-4726-A25B-678F931C69FD@free.fr> Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey @@ -7332,7 +7332,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.11.5] (pl472.nas932.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp <3d13dcfc0603070056l77cb1a37o@mail.gmail.com> From: JC Helary Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:18:00 +0900 -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: French translation @@ -7649,7 +7649,7 @@ To: JC Helary <3d13dcfc0603070056l77cb1a37o@mail.gmail.com> <113D4C33-CE92-48E7-9028-45F4AFB61C81@free.fr> From: Frederic Lehobey -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: Re: French translation Hi, @@ -10872,7 +10872,7 @@ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:29:47 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey <4410AC96.2030806@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , list +Cc: Stephen Watt, list Subject: Re: BINGO, Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures @@ -11717,7 +11717,7 @@ Subject: RE: Re: BINGO, Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:21:17 -0500 charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Stephen Watt' , list +Cc: 'Stephen Watt' Stephen Watt, list On March 10, 2006 7:30 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -11833,7 +11833,7 @@ Subject: re: BINGO, Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures From: Martin Rubey Date: 11 Mar 2006 09:33:52 +0100 -Cc: 'Stephen Watt' , list +Cc: 'Stephen Watt' Stephen Watt, list Dear Bill, Ralf, *, @@ -12454,7 +12454,7 @@ From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: BINGO,Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures -Cc: 'Stephen Watt' , list +Cc: 'Stephen Watt' Stephen Watt, list > Consider for example 'DirectProductCategory' > @@ -12599,7 +12599,7 @@ Subject: RE: Re: BINGO, Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:50:23 -0500 charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Stephen Watt' , list +Cc: 'Stephen Watt' Stephen Watt, list On March 13, 2006 8:34 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -14541,7 +14541,7 @@ Subject: re: BINGO, <85bqwd2xe7.fsf@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Mar 2006 01:44:19 +0100 -Cc: list, 'Stephen Watt' +Cc: list, 'Stephen Watt' Stephen Watt Martin Rubey writes: @@ -15179,7 +15179,7 @@ Thread-Topic: aldor type satisfacton Thread-Index: AcZGtf2QfLiqitdPQdS2M6JeN6ia5gAZyUrg From: Bill Page To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: Stephen Watt , list +Cc: Stephen Watt, list Subject: aldor type satisfacton Ralf, @@ -16224,7 +16224,7 @@ From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: BINGO,Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures -Cc: Stephen Watt , list +Cc: Stephen Watt, list Hi Bill, @@ -16691,7 +16691,7 @@ On 03/14/2006 01:46 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > experiment with these ideas. Gaby, although I don't like the syntax currently in discussion, you -should write to Stephen Watt (Stephen.Watt@uwo.ca). Perhaps this even +should write to Stephen Watt (Stephen Watt). Perhaps this even helps to speed up the process of getting the compiler generally under an open source license. @@ -20487,7 +20487,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.83.20 with SMTP id g20mr45551wxb; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:34:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:34:07 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list boundary="----=_Part_485_4295027.1142973247265" Subject: Minimal Algebra @@ -20644,7 +20644,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.41.15 with SMTP id o15mr522120wxo; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:09:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:09:54 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Convert and Coerce @@ -23863,7 +23863,7 @@ Subject: Re: Minimal Algebra From: Francois Maltey Date: 26 Mar 2006 14:58:16 +0200 -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > While reading the Axiom in the class room message I got this idea. >=20 @@ -24213,7 +24213,7 @@ Subject: Re: Minimal Algebra Cc: On 03/26/2006 02:58 PM, Francois Maltey wrote: -> "Antoine Hersen" writes: +> "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: >=20 >> While reading the Axiom in the class room message I got this idea. >> @@ -24724,7 +24724,7 @@ review? Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -24758,7 +24758,7 @@ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:34:32 -0500 Thread-Topic: Convert and Coerce Thread-Index: AcZRyMtFkuz1PWFgTRu3v9aZW7X19AAHGwEg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: list On Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:10 AM Antoine Hersen asked: @@ -24929,7 +24929,7 @@ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:55:36 -0500 Thread-Topic: Convert and Coerce Thread-Index: AcZR90JRRQUD/UTPR+KzlgQxO/NVnAAAFL+A From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: list On Monday, March 27, 2006 6:36 PM Antoine Hersen wrote @@ -25015,7 +25015,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.87.2 with SMTP id k2mr5278797wxb; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:06:00 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Currying and iteration @@ -25238,7 +25238,7 @@ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:21:51 -0500 Thread-Topic: Currying and iteration Thread-Index: AcZSBw5BuYWVw+s5TP+vmXF42l3nHQAA8Eug From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: list On Monday, March 27, 2006 7:06 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -27390,7 +27390,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.22.12 with SMTP id 12mr635931wxv; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:46:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:46:02 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Developing domain @@ -27432,7 +27432,7 @@ Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2TCwqUa005124; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:59:08 -0500 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Developing domain Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:58:44 -0500 charset="us-ascii" @@ -27540,8 +27540,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:23:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:23:38 -0500 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: Developing domain Cc: list @@ -27869,7 +27869,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:15:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:16:02 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Developing domain Cc: list @@ -28865,7 +28865,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.25.9 with SMTP id 9mr1912664wxy; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:09:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:09:00 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: Re: Developing domain <013e01c65330$8a5d8c40$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -28970,7 +28970,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.21.14 with SMTP id 14mr460359wxu; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:28:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:28:25 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: list Subject: re: GNU Arch - was patches <016101c653a4$69b02010$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -29013,8 +29013,8 @@ Received: by 10.36.252.80 with SMTP id z80mr1278238nzh; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.138.10 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:38:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:38:27 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" -To: "Antoine Hersen" +From: David Mentre +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: re: GNU Arch - was patches <016101c653a4$69b02010$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -29022,7 +29022,7 @@ Cc: list Hello, -2006/3/30, Antoine Hersen : +2006/3/30, Antoine Hersen: > What about SVK( http://svk.elixus.org/ ), it seem to be based on > Subversion plus distributed a la Arch > It is based on PERL a more reasonable dependency that Haskell. @@ -29083,7 +29083,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k2U8pCMv009024; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:51:12 +0200 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Subject: re: GNU Arch - was patches <016101c653a4$69b02010$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -29092,11 +29092,11 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 30 Mar 2006 10:51:11 +0200 Cc: list -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: | Hello, | -| 2006/3/30, Antoine Hersen : +| 2006/3/30, Antoine Hersen: | > What about SVK( http://svk.elixus.org/ ), it seem to be based on | > Subversion plus distributed a la Arch | > It is based on PERL a more reasonable dependency that Haskell. @@ -29218,7 +29218,7 @@ Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2UBe7YX031034; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:40:18 -0500 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Developing domain Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:39:58 -0500 charset="us-ascii" @@ -29414,7 +29414,7 @@ Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2UFa0Hb025524; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:36:07 +0200 (CEST) -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen <013e01c65330$8a5d8c40$6900a8c0@asus> From: Martin Rubey @@ -29422,7 +29422,7 @@ Date: 30 Mar 2006 17:39:59 +0200 Cc: list Subject: op.spad -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > > > Also do someone know the intedent of the operator package > > > op.spad ? I have a lot of difficulty understanding Manuel @@ -29515,7 +29515,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.8.1 with SMTP id 1mr1368483wxh; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:07:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:07:55 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Bill Page" Bill Page Subject: Re: Developing domain <017c01c653ee$b044ab50$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -30273,7 +30273,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.17.2 with SMTP id 2mr869356wxq; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:51:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:51:00 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Bill Page" Bill Page, axiom-developer Subject: Re: problems with accessing wiki.axiom-developer.org @@ -30847,7 +30847,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.41.9 with SMTP id o9mr1179944wxo; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:12:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:12:17 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: Map @@ -30890,7 +30890,7 @@ Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k312oknE027423; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:51:03 -0500 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Map Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:50:42 -0500 charset="us-ascii" diff --git a/book/2006-04.txt b/book/2006-04.txt index a3ac5fe..c08e3f3 100644 --- a/book/2006-04.txt +++ b/book/2006-04.txt @@ -611,7 +611,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.50.19 with SMTP id x19mr1807097wxx; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: Re: Map @@ -749,7 +749,7 @@ Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1FPmAC-00021B-G7; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:53:36 +0200 -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Map From: Francois Maltey @@ -795,7 +795,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr373898wxz; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Francois Maltey" Francois Maltey Subject: Re: Map @@ -853,7 +853,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Sun, 2 Apr 2006 02:34:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:34:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Map Cc: axiom-developer @@ -927,7 +927,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.47.18 with SMTP id u18mr688722wxu; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Map @@ -1357,7 +1357,7 @@ Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k348WOHb079315; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:32:26 +0200 (CEST) -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Map <442F1C19.4000306@hemmecke.de> @@ -1371,7 +1371,7 @@ Dear Antoine, see SandBoxSpad. -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > All my map trouble come from the fact that I tried to use map to change type > @@ -3546,7 +3546,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.130.14 with SMTP id c14mr247904wxd; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:12:23 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_14128_14507486.1144278743990" Subject: Personel Section in MathAction ? @@ -3610,7 +3610,7 @@ Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Personel Section in MathAction ? -To: Antoine Hersen , +To: Antoine Hersen, axiom-developer Cc: @@ -3621,7 +3621,7 @@ That's pretty much what I use it for ;-) Cheers, CY ---- Antoine Hersen wrote: +--- Antoine Hersen wrote: > Hello, > @@ -5211,7 +5211,7 @@ Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1FRY7v-0002Hd-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:18:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:35 +0200 -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge <3d13dcfc0604060949h5de6938ajb00279edc80adfdf@mail.gmail.com> From: Frederic Lehobey @@ -5793,7 +5793,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.105.17 with SMTP id d17mr1320357nzc; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:49:02 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Frederic Lehobey" Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge Cc: list @@ -6484,7 +6484,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.196.13 with SMTP id t13mr402623nzf; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:07:51 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: list Subject: Fwd: Axiom silver branch <3d13dcfc0604070307x61ac8310wb3171ab4dfd01926@mail.gmail.com> @@ -6494,7 +6494,7 @@ Oops, forgot the list. d. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- -From: David MENTRE +From: David MENTRE David Mentre Date: 7 avr. 2006 12:07 Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch To: Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -6551,7 +6551,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:38:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:38:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: Re: Fwd: Axiom silver branch <3d13dcfc0604070307v664f7e01tad7318756cdd2803@mail.gmail.com> Cc: list @@ -6574,7 +6574,7 @@ On 04/07/2006 12:07 PM, David MENTRE wrote: > d. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- -> From: David MENTRE +> From: David MENTRE David Mentre > Date: 7 avr. 2006 12:07 > Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch > To: Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -9059,7 +9059,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.83.13 with SMTP id g13mr2303435wxb; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_41044_27836253.1144533504493" Subject: Bug with abbrev and aldor domain @@ -9399,7 +9399,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.43.2 with SMTP id q2mr3626258wxq; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer , "Bill Page" Bill Page boundary="----=_Part_41636_30350222.1144539774849" @@ -9966,7 +9966,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.45.5 with SMTP id s5mr1564973wxs; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation @@ -10010,7 +10010,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:05:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling with aldor Cc: axiom-developer @@ -10329,7 +10329,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:47:07 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation Cc: axiom-developer @@ -10408,7 +10408,7 @@ I've not yet tried to compile the silver branch. Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -10519,7 +10519,7 @@ binary). Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -10587,7 +10587,7 @@ What do you think of it? Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -11158,7 +11158,7 @@ Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3A122GB011026; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:02:15 -0400 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:02:00 -0400 charset="us-ascii" @@ -12968,7 +12968,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.21.6 with SMTP id 6mr367161wxu; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_8331_15225078.1144783971814" Subject: Book vol 3 @@ -13028,7 +13028,7 @@ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:13 -0400 Thread-Topic: Book vol 3 Thread-Index: AcZdnsC/zj6TpLWxR9uiuCqThtLP/wAARlMg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:33 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -14947,8 +14947,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:40:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:40:31 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation Cc: list @@ -17129,7 +17129,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.126.3 with SMTP id y3mr215250nzc; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:35:52 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Cc: list @@ -17191,7 +17191,7 @@ Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:58 -0700 From: Bob McElrath -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Ralf Hemmecke, list @@ -17202,7 +17202,7 @@ Cc: list --c7hkjup166d4FzgN -David MENTRE [david.mentre@gmail.com] wrote: +David MENTRE [David Mentre] wrote: > > Although I am not yet a big fan of Texmacs, because it is yet another > > language (besides LaTeX) to learn, I somehow think that it should become > > a more integrated into axiom and become the default userinterface. @@ -17274,7 +17274,7 @@ Thread-Topic: User interface, Thread-Index: AcZfEN5bRykGMIrtTjelgQ2s/B4m6wAAgVCw From: Bill Page To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre On Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:42 AM Bob McElrath wrote: > ...=20 @@ -17335,7 +17335,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:15:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:16:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: [Axiom-developer] backups) Cc: list @@ -17442,7 +17442,7 @@ To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: [Axiom-developer] backups) <443E794C.7030805@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > Do not forget that somebody is working on a web interface (with Tim?). @@ -17484,10 +17484,10 @@ From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - list, David MENTRE + list, David MENTRE David Mentre protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SCOJXUq1iwCn05li" clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre --SCOJXUq1iwCn05li @@ -17657,7 +17657,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.18.13 with SMTP id 13mr942863wxr; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: Problem with defining Zero @@ -17707,7 +17707,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:40:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:41:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Problem with defining Zero Cc: axiom-developer @@ -17798,7 +17798,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.8.11 with SMTP id 11mr1057634wxh; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) @@ -17948,7 +17948,7 @@ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:54 -0400 Thread-Topic: Problem with defining Zero Thread-Index: AcZfJxGTN6UbsWbTSQ2pdbWiX8BgHAAC2ipg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer On Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:21 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -18004,7 +18004,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:52:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:52:18 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Problem with defining Zero Cc: axiom-developer @@ -18079,7 +18079,7 @@ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:17 -0400 Thread-Topic: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom Thread-Index: AcZfMksuW/O94AI1S2m0vGTax72WmwAARrDQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer Subject: RE: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom @@ -18131,7 +18131,7 @@ Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -To: Bill Page, Antoine Hersen +To: Bill Page, Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer @@ -18258,7 +18258,7 @@ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:37:02 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - Antoine Hersen , + Antoine Hersen, axiom-developer protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k" clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org @@ -18344,7 +18344,7 @@ Received: by 10.78.18.1 with SMTP id 1mr39151hur; Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:47:15 +0200 From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> @@ -18375,7 +18375,7 @@ Pierre -On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: +On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Hello, > > My experience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more than yo= @@ -18937,7 +18937,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.8.11 with SMTP id 11mr1197445wxh; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) @@ -19009,7 +19009,7 @@ Regards, Antoine Hersen -On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: +On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My experience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more than @@ -19137,8 +19137,8 @@ we will be able to get other CAS interested to such a project. >Regards,

    Antoine Hersen


    -On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen <= -antoine.hersen@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > My e= +On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen <= +Antoine Hersen> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > My e= xperience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more than you
    > imagine), especially if you go out the basic widget. ( I had a 30 line= long
    > rent there ).
    >
    > Before choosing a solution we s= @@ -19224,7 +19224,7 @@ Thread-Topic: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Thread-Index: AcZfQ1bM428dIl9RTxeSgAmihFTPOAAAHuOw From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -19418,7 +19418,7 @@ Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr42965hua; Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:25:58 +0200 From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> @@ -19427,7 +19427,7 @@ Subject: Re: User interface, Cc: axiom-developer -On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: +On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Hello Pierre > > @@ -19524,7 +19524,7 @@ Pierre > > > -> > On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: +> > On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > My experience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more tha= @@ -19656,7 +19656,7 @@ From: Bob McElrath To: Pierre Doucy Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - Antoine Hersen , + Antoine Hersen, axiom-developer <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> @@ -19768,7 +19768,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.14.2 with SMTP id 2mr996739wxn; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_20118_24314546.1144984827919" Subject: User Profiles @@ -19848,7 +19848,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta13.adelphia.net Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:24:32 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers To: Pierre Doucy, - Antoine Hersen , + Antoine Hersen, axiom-developer <20060414001558.GB6315@mcelrath.org> OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 @@ -19983,8 +19983,8 @@ Received: by 10.36.37.11 with SMTP id k11mr1923582nzk; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:37:13 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" -To: "Antoine Hersen" +From: David Mentre +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> @@ -19993,7 +19993,7 @@ Cc: axiom-developer Hello Antoine, -2006/4/13, Antoine Hersen : +2006/4/13, Antoine Hersen: > My experience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more than yo= u > imagine) @@ -20361,15 +20361,15 @@ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -To: David MENTRE , - Antoine Hersen +To: David MENTRE David Mentre, + Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer ---- David MENTRE wrote: +--- David MENTRE David Mentre wrote: > Hello Antoine, > -> 2006/4/13, Antoine Hersen : +> 2006/4/13, Antoine Hersen: > > My experience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more > > than you imagine) > @@ -21190,7 +21190,7 @@ Received: from gmail-pop.l.google.com [64.233.183.109] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5) for david@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:07:05 +0200 (CEST) -Delivered-To: david.mentre@gmail.com +Delivered-To: David Mentre Received: by 10.36.134.7 with SMTP id h7cs26771nzd; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.243.1 with SMTP id q1mr943450nfh; @@ -21815,7 +21815,7 @@ Keywords: 20060302 fxl src/doc/bookvol1 typo fixes 20060302 fxl Frederic Lehobey 20060216 axh src/hyper/Makefile add execute bit to htsearch, presea -20060216 axh Antoine.Hersen +20060216 axh Antoine.Hersen Antoine Hersen 20060211 gxv src/interp/foam_l.lisp fix PtrMagicEq final case 20060117 wsp lsp/Makefile missing quote mark in configure.in patch 20060116 mvz src/doc/book fix typo @@ -23822,7 +23822,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.129.20 with SMTP id b20mr432686nzd; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:54:26 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> @@ -23943,7 +23943,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:07:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:08:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE +To: David MENTRE David Mentre Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> @@ -24024,7 +24024,7 @@ Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] <44460444.60106@hemmecke.de> <3d13dcfc0604190854t4dc40ceclf0313b3e0abe4d2a@mail.gmail.com> <44466064.30508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > Thanks David, > @@ -24101,7 +24101,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.39.14 with SMTP id m14mr4387561nzm; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:24:20 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> @@ -24726,7 +24726,7 @@ site through Bill's machinery. Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -25734,7 +25734,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.135.3 with SMTP id i3mr375049nzd; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:16:34 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Cc: Benjamin Kosnik , axiom-developer @@ -26251,7 +26251,7 @@ Received: from wells.artheist.org (vpn50-16.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.16]) Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:54:10 -0500 From: Benjamin Kosnik -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre <3d13dcfc0604200016n7adff697safcece91506a171b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Axiom and linux distros @@ -26760,7 +26760,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.134.3 with SMTP id h3mr1947711nzd; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:24:26 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Cc: list @@ -26863,8 +26863,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:29:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:29:59 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: david.mentre@gmail.com - (david.mentre@gmail.com) +To: David Mentre + (David Mentre) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> Cc: list @@ -26932,7 +26932,7 @@ From: Jean-Christophe Helary Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:40:54 +0900 To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre Tim, @@ -26995,7 +26995,7 @@ Subject: Re: size issue with noweb <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > > On a related note, I was wondering if such self documenting processes @@ -27182,7 +27182,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.81.3 with SMTP id e3mr608265nzb; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:29:19 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> @@ -27340,8 +27340,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:42:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:42:03 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: david.mentre@gmail.com - (david.mentre@gmail.com) +To: David Mentre + (David Mentre) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> @@ -27395,7 +27395,7 @@ To: Subject: RE: size issue with noweb Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:11:22 -0400 charset="us-ascii" -Cc: david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: David Mentre On April 21, 2006 11:42 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > @@ -27525,7 +27525,7 @@ To: Bill Page (Bill Page) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Cc: dtroeger@cssfs0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu, list, - david.mentre@gmail.com + David Mentre > > until this massive project settles down i don't have the time to > > undertake the project. at some point the little slices of noweb @@ -27652,7 +27652,7 @@ Cc: list Tim, -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: >> unfortunately i cannot send you my current program as it is not >> (yet?) open source. i'd have to get permission from work. @@ -27678,7 +27678,7 @@ If you find the result safe enough, could you send it to me? Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage --=-=-= @@ -28125,7 +28125,7 @@ files. :) Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -28635,7 +28635,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.130.15 with SMTP id c15mr5464277wxd; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity boundary="----=_Part_12791_15778870.1145963955158" @@ -28920,15 +28920,15 @@ Received: by 10.36.129.16 with SMTP id b16mr4304329nzd; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.14 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:31:38 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" -To: "Antoine Hersen" +From: David Mentre +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: axiom opportunity Cc: list Hello, -2006/4/25, Antoine Hersen : +2006/4/25, Antoine Hersen: > > Trying to work with open office as a front-end will certainly > > force axiom's user interface to mature rapidly. > @@ -28975,7 +28975,7 @@ Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3PCk1rf050259; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:46:04 +0200 (CEST) -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <3d13dcfc0604250531i4067cf38q5dac649e6707ab68@mail.gmail.com> @@ -29018,10 +29018,10 @@ Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: axiom opportunity -To: Antoine Hersen , Tim Daly +To: Antoine Hersen, Tim Daly Cc: list ---- Antoine Hersen wrote: +--- Antoine Hersen wrote: > > I think we need to start positioning ourselves to be the computer > > algebra system for these linux systems. Which implies we spend @@ -29165,7 +29165,7 @@ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity Thread-Index: AcZoZDz3XacNGoTOTsW3bj2xP3LByAAB+iAg From: Bill Page -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Cc: list On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: @@ -29285,9 +29285,9 @@ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:49:54 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE , list + David MENTRE David Mentre, list protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk @@ -29404,7 +29404,7 @@ Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity Thread-Index: AcZoiFLOf1U7kodIQwSih85HOp6PrgAAVZvg From: Bill Page To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:50 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... @@ -29612,9 +29612,9 @@ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:45:17 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE , list + David MENTRE David Mentre, list protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw @@ -30223,7 +30223,7 @@ Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity Thread-Index: AcZokBBvF4kmZzmBQ02/yNxXZ/vk7wABGqWg From: Bill Page To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre Bob,=20 @@ -30459,9 +30459,9 @@ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:30:33 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE , list + David MENTRE David Mentre, list protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3" -Cc: list, David MENTRE +Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre --CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3 @@ -30826,7 +30826,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.118.9 with SMTP id q9mr375565nzc; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.14 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:48:00 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom opportunity @@ -30874,7 +30874,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k3QG6Xfb024826; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> @@ -30882,7 +30882,7 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 Cc: list -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: | Hello, | @@ -31003,7 +31003,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre Axiom should build on any linux system without error. If you know of a system where you set the AXIOM shell variable @@ -31052,7 +31052,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre root Tim Daly writes: @@ -31103,7 +31103,7 @@ Received: by 10.36.128.5 with SMTP id a5mr1449891nzd; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.14 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:29:11 +0200 -From: "David MENTRE" +From: David Mentre To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom opportunity @@ -31199,7 +31199,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre Axiom can be installed at any location (defaults to /usr/local) by adding an option on the command line (see Makefile.dvi) @@ -31250,7 +31250,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre >> But I would >> like Axiom to be better than that; that is the reason why I talked to @@ -31357,7 +31357,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k3QHvrNY025356; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "David MENTRE" +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> @@ -31367,7 +31367,7 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 Cc: list -"David MENTRE" writes: +David Mentre writes: | Gaby, | @@ -31472,7 +31472,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261636.k3QGauI25385@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:05:27 +0200 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre root Tim Daly writes: @@ -31551,7 +31551,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261636.k3QGauI25385@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes @@ -31604,7 +31604,7 @@ Subject: Re: axiom opportunity <200604261830.k3QIU2e25463@localhost.localdomain> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:49:47 +0200 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre root Tim Daly writes: @@ -31651,7 +31651,7 @@ To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: axiom opportunity Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:06 -0400 charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre Gaby, @@ -31732,7 +31732,7 @@ To: "Bill Page" Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 22:08:06 +0200 -Cc: list, david.mentre@gmail.com +Cc: list, David Mentre "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: @@ -34672,7 +34672,7 @@ Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3TJWtXY006595; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:33:02 +0200 (CEST) To: Ralf HEMMECKE Ralf Hemmecke, "Nicolas M. Thiery" - , antoine.hersen@gmail.com, Bernhard + , Antoine Hersen, Bernhard Gittenberger , =?iso-8859-2?q?Petr_Hlin=ECn=FD?= , carsten.schneider@risc.uni-linz.ac.at, Peter.Paule@risc.uni-linz.ac.at, diff --git a/book/2006-05.txt b/book/2006-05.txt index dc954ac..dd9ad6e 100644 --- a/book/2006-05.txt +++ b/book/2006-05.txt @@ -45,7 +45,7 @@ Shouldn't it be list? Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ the axiom tree. Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -428,7 +428,7 @@ Thank you for the tip. Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -2135,7 +2135,7 @@ Subject: Re: size issue with noweb From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 May 2006 21:40:14 +0200 Cc: dtroeger@cssfs0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu, list, - david.mentre@gmail.com + David Mentre root Tim Daly writes: @@ -13541,7 +13541,7 @@ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 00:58:00 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -13802,7 +13802,7 @@ To: Ralf Hemmecke <4463C178.2080409@hemmecke.de> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 May 2006 01:13:36 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -14011,7 +14011,7 @@ Thread-Topic: Re: [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex Thread-Index: AcZ1USBzQFBxMuFHQWuPsdmRT29U7wAAmD/g From: Bill Page To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l On Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -14099,7 +14099,7 @@ Subject: re: [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 May 2006 02:10:58 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Bill Page writes: @@ -14673,7 +14673,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <44637605.8060405@hemmecke.de> <4463C178.2080409@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -14868,7 +14868,7 @@ To: tmgisi@gmx.at <4463C178.2080409@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16041,7 +16041,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <4463C178.2080409@hemmecke.de> <44647D47.8080809@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16262,7 +16262,7 @@ To: tmgisi@gmx.at From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 May 2006 20:56:09 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16314,7 +16314,7 @@ Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 03:36:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16426,7 +16426,7 @@ To: Ralf Hemmecke <4467DB0B.5070209@hemmecke.de> From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 May 2006 06:21:52 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16533,7 +16533,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <44647D47.8080809@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16763,7 +16763,7 @@ To: tmgisi@gmx.at From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 May 2006 18:05:29 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -16923,7 +16923,7 @@ Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 00:35:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -17075,7 +17075,7 @@ To: Ralf Hemmecke <4467DB0B.5070209@hemmecke.de> From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 May 2006 10:13:17 +0200 -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -17156,7 +17156,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -17298,7 +17298,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <44690238.1070709@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -17506,7 +17506,7 @@ To: tmgisi@gmx.at <44690238.1070709@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -17579,7 +17579,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <44690238.1070709@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> <4469CEC0.8040603@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: functional type system using pointer comparisons to check equality [was: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are @@ -18173,7 +18173,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <4467DB0B.5070209@hemmecke.de> <85k68m5qw2.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -18272,7 +18272,7 @@ To: tmgisi@gmx.at From: Martin Rubey Date: 17 May 2006 10:24:13 +0200 -Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt , +Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt, axiom-dev Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -18473,7 +18473,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <85k68m5qw2.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <858xp1t5xu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Stephen Watt , axiom-dev , +Cc: Stephen Watt, axiom-dev , aldor-l Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -18743,7 +18743,7 @@ To: Christian Aistleitner <858xp1t5xu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt , +Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt, axiom-dev Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. @@ -18965,7 +18965,7 @@ From: "Christian Aistleitner" <858xp1t5xu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <20060517135605.GF14445@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> -Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt , +Cc: aldor-l , Stephen Watt, axiom-dev Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. diff --git a/book/2006-06.txt b/book/2006-06.txt index f9c0488..5ca3c67 100644 --- a/book/2006-06.txt +++ b/book/2006-06.txt @@ -1984,7 +1984,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr7935042wxw; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.8 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 20:53:32 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: B natural boundary="----=_Part_35888_32278577.1149620012858" @@ -5115,7 +5115,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr5475535wxc; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.8 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:42:26 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_15857_1551969.1151354546626" Subject: Bug hypertex @@ -5338,8 +5338,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:15:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:15:55 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: Bug hypertex Cc: list diff --git a/book/2006-07.txt b/book/2006-07.txt index 25026e0..13ad1f4 100644 --- a/book/2006-07.txt +++ b/book/2006-07.txt @@ -1328,7 +1328,7 @@ Received: from login.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.250] by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1Fy1Jn-0002RJ-FI; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:57:03 +0200 -To: list, antoine.hersen@gmail.com +To: list, Antoine Hersen From: Martin Rubey Date: 05 Jul 2006 08:57:02 +0200 Cc: @@ -8345,7 +8345,7 @@ Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] exports and constants > the details in the compiler? We certainly do not want different versions > of the Aldor language. -Ask Stephen Watt (Stephen.Watt@uwo.ca) +Ask Stephen Watt (Stephen Watt) @@ -8480,7 +8480,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.36.9 with SMTP id j9mr5259803wxj; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.41.6 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:35:31 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Tim Daly boundary="----=_Part_18768_6649610.1153773331082" @@ -8770,7 +8770,7 @@ Received: from asus (206-47-29-248.anikast.net [206.47.29.248]) k6OKxDNQ006994; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:59:29 -0400 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke, - "'Antoine Hersen'" + "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:59:01 -0400 charset="us-ascii" Cc: 'axiom-dev' , tmgisi@gmx.at, @@ -8835,7 +8835,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k6OLPM3C024785; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:25:22 +0200 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen <44C50016.9010805@hemmecke.de> <200607241725.k6OHP1L25068@localhost.localdomain> @@ -8845,7 +8845,7 @@ Date: 24 Jul 2006 23:25:21 +0200 Cc: tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l@aldor.org, list Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] exports and constants -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: [...] @@ -13915,7 +13915,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.34.19 with SMTP id h19mr1608311wxh; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:06:18 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom boundary="----=_Part_23529_9750176.1153955178816" @@ -14146,8 +14146,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:08:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:08:30 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -14195,7 +14195,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.59.5 with SMTP id h5mr8878976wxa; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:20:52 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_23697_6057789.1153956052682" Subject: Front page esthetic @@ -14254,8 +14254,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:14:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:14:24 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -14320,8 +14320,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:32:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:32:01 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -14389,8 +14389,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:01:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:01:39 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> Cc: list @@ -14511,8 +14511,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:05:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:05:15 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -14574,7 +14574,7 @@ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:13:49 -0400 Thread-Topic: Front page esthetic Thread-Index: AcaxCit8r4Mlu8aLQTmZ1CRDQ5sW2AABucaQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer Antoine, @@ -14753,7 +14753,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr30108wxc; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:38:31 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom boundary="----=_Part_24353_21749884.1153960711655" @@ -15014,8 +15014,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:19:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:19:57 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -15136,8 +15136,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:59:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:59:17 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -15192,8 +15192,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:08:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:08:27 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom <200607261605.k6QG5b609970@localhost.localdomain> @@ -16125,7 +16125,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:35:17 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:37:29 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom Cc: list @@ -17461,7 +17461,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.38.15 with SMTP id l15mr1045699wxl; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:13:03 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "C Y" Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Aldor translations boundary="----=_Part_32235_15400819.1154020383322" @@ -17543,8 +17543,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:11:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:11:27 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: Aldor translations <20060727153707.40680.qmail@web31708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> @@ -17661,7 +17661,7 @@ Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31704.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Aldor translations -To: Tim Daly, antoine.hersen@gmail.com +To: Tim Daly, Antoine Hersen Cc: tmgisi@gmx.at, list Sorry, my bad - I should have started a new thread. @@ -20312,8 +20312,8 @@ From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] non-constant constants was: re: exports and constants -Cc: tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l@aldor.org, Laurentiu Dragan , - Stephen Watt , list +Cc: tmgisi@gmx.at, aldor-l@aldor.org, Laurentiu Dragan, + Stephen Watt, list On 07/29/2006 08:21 AM, Bill Page wrote: @@ -20906,8 +20906,8 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:35:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:35:04 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com - (antoine.hersen@gmail.com) +To: Antoine Hersen + (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: topic modeling Cc: list @@ -21039,7 +21039,7 @@ Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr211095hud; Received: by 10.78.201.11 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:36:45 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: antoine.hersen@gmail.com, list +To: Antoine Hersen, list Subject: Re: topic modeling <200607300035.k6U0Z4o12687@localhost.localdomain> diff --git a/book/2006-08.txt b/book/2006-08.txt index 65c75b5..64a6b36 100644 --- a/book/2006-08.txt +++ b/book/2006-08.txt @@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.99.11 with SMTP id w11mr4988224wxb; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:39:15 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Bill Page" Bill Page Subject: Re: Front page esthetic boundary="----=_Part_43404_15182272.1154457555547" @@ -1151,7 +1151,7 @@ Received: by 10.78.165.16 with SMTP id n16mr459461hue; Received: by 10.78.201.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:21:09 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Front page esthetic <004101c6b585$2c77bbc0$6900a8c0@asus> @@ -2043,7 +2043,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:18:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:21:30 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Front page esthetic Cc: axiom-developer @@ -3126,7 +3126,7 @@ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:01:21 -0400 Thread-Topic: Front page esthetic Thread-Index: Aca1mmoCeGlcuXPVTZa32cNKHp3SjwAH7Rxg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer On Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:39 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -3694,7 +3694,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.68.11 with SMTP id q11mr559172wxa; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:57:40 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Front page esthetic boundary="----=_Part_47318_28964950.1154487460513" @@ -4467,7 +4467,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k723B93v012033; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:11:09 +0200 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Front page esthetic @@ -4475,7 +4475,7 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Aug 2006 05:11:09 +0200 Cc: axiom-developer -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: [...] @@ -7211,7 +7211,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.102.5 with SMTP id z5mr1238520wxb; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:47:24 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Bill Page Subject: Re: spam attack boundary="----=_Part_49317_2583799.1154519244190" @@ -7613,7 +7613,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.38.9 with SMTP id l9mr1294205wxl; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:12:43 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Front page esthetic boundary="----=_Part_49517_617477.1154520763024" @@ -7982,7 +7982,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:12:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:15:30 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Front page esthetic @@ -8353,7 +8353,7 @@ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:29:50 -0400 Thread-Topic: spam attack Thread-Index: Aca2KXuvdsNf+xRHSZm5Ag1oTnZnBAALNPKg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-dev On Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:47 AM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -8445,7 +8445,7 @@ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:00:07 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: spam attack - Antoine Hersen , + Antoine Hersen, axiom-dev protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DNUSDXU7R7AVVM8C" @@ -11078,7 +11078,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr4502315wxz; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:52:25 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Front page esthetic boundary="----=_Part_71534_5947139.1154681545650" @@ -11143,7 +11143,7 @@ Received: from login.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.250] by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1G8waI-0002q2-4r; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:07:14 +0200 -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Front page esthetic <9qu04suc0t.fsf@login.mat.univie.ac.at> @@ -11151,7 +11151,7 @@ From: Martin Rubey Date: 04 Aug 2006 12:07:13 +0200 Cc: axiom-developer -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > > * the wiki menu (especially the item "changes") is missing now. I very > > much @@ -13576,7 +13576,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.21.8 with SMTP id 8mr3710856wxu; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:57:13 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: I would like to work boundary="----=_Part_82312_6599175.1154775433427" @@ -16929,7 +16929,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.15.15 with SMTP id 15mr7074681wxo; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.132.20 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 01:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:51:15 +0200 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Front page esthetic boundary="----=_Part_88517_19069567.1154854275581" @@ -20334,7 +20334,7 @@ Received: from asus (206-47-29-248.anikast.net [206.47.29.248]) by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k77L6KHO011572; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:06:35 -0400 From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" +To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: Front page esthetic Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:06:10 -0400 charset="us-ascii" @@ -26963,7 +26963,7 @@ Received: from login.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.250] by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GCI8F-0007wH-FO; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:44:07 +0200 -To: Cliff Yapp Cliff Yapp, antoine.hersen@gmail.com +To: Cliff Yapp Cliff Yapp, Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Old Lisp <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> <200608131059.18993.Cliff Yapp> @@ -32403,7 +32403,7 @@ Code Management system, whichever it is? Yours, david -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -32835,7 +32835,7 @@ exit 0 Shell Scribe David -- -David MENTRE -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -53696,7 +53696,7 @@ Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) id 1GGepL-0006C8-Ef; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:46:39 -0400 Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1GGegx-00015Z-00; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:37:59 -0400 -To: "Robert Dodier" +To: "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier From: Camm Maguire Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:37:59 -0400 Cc: maxima@math.utexas.edu, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org @@ -56225,7 +56225,7 @@ Received: by 10.90.113.20 with SMTP id l20mr816042agc; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.69.16 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:38:42 -0600 -From: "Robert Dodier" +From: "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier To: Camm Maguire <5464gglqjc.fsf_-_@intech19.enhanced.com> Cc: maxima@math.utexas.edu, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org diff --git a/book/2006-09.txt b/book/2006-09.txt index 3db5632..58666aa 100644 --- a/book/2006-09.txt +++ b/book/2006-09.txt @@ -13737,7 +13737,7 @@ To: Vadim V. Zhytnikov From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Sep 2006 14:10:17 -0400 Cc: Maxima list , list, - Robert Dodier + Robert Dodier Subject: Re: [Maxima] Maxima 5.10.0 release candidate 3 Greetings! Just checked out wxmaxima, and was wondering if an @@ -55378,7 +55378,7 @@ Received: from login.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.250] (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GQPCw-0002f7-VT; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:07:18 +0200 To: Alfredo Portes, - Timothy Daly Tim Daly, antoine.hersen@gmail.com + Timothy Daly Tim Daly, Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 <00c001c6db7f$300ff700$6900a8c0@asus> diff --git a/book/2006-10.txt b/book/2006-10.txt index 9bde600..5c53e27 100644 --- a/book/2006-10.txt +++ b/book/2006-10.txt @@ -15803,7 +15803,7 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:18:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:18:48 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: jakubi@df.uba.ar +To: Alejandro Jakubi Alejandro Jakubi on Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:45:12 -0300) Cc: list, jgerhard@maplsoft.com Subject: Re: doyen @@ -16185,7 +16185,7 @@ From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: doyen <200610140118.k9E1Im117416@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: jakubi@df.uba.ar, list, jgerhard@maplsoft.com +Cc: Alejandro Jakubi, list, jgerhard@maplsoft.com Alejandro, @@ -16292,7 +16292,7 @@ Subject: re: doyen Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:26:13 -0400 <200610140118.k9E1Im117416@localhost.localdomain> charset="iso-8859-15" -Cc: jakubi@df.uba.ar +Cc: Alejandro Jakubi On Friday 13 October 2006 21:18, root wrote: @@ -22626,7 +22626,7 @@ Received: from localhost (rex.df.uba.ar [157.92.11.80]) by woody.df.uba.ar (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9H04nMm016022 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:04:50 -0300 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:05:55 -0300 -From: Alejandro Jakubi +From: Alejandro Jakubi To: list Subject: re: doyen @@ -23002,7 +23002,7 @@ Received: by 10.90.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr4243397aga; Received: by 10.90.81.1 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:19:24 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Alejandro Jakubi" +To: "Alejandro Jakubi" Alejandro Jakubi Subject: re: doyen Cc: list @@ -23851,7 +23851,7 @@ Received: from localhost (rex.df.uba.ar [157.92.11.80]) by woody.df.uba.ar (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9H4g9Mm028678; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:42:10 -0300 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:43:15 -0300 -From: Alejandro Jakubi +From: Alejandro Jakubi To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: doyen @@ -23908,7 +23908,7 @@ Received: by 10.90.71.12 with SMTP id t12mr4276196aga; Received: by 10.90.81.1 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:13:19 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Alejandro Jakubi" +To: "Alejandro Jakubi" Alejandro Jakubi Subject: re: doyen @@ -24348,7 +24348,7 @@ Received: (from root@localhost) Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:18:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:18:45 -0400 From: root Tim Daly -To: jakubi@df.uba.ar +To: Alejandro Jakubi Alejandro Jakubi on Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:43:15 -0300) Subject: re: doyen @@ -25155,7 +25155,7 @@ Received: from localhost (rex.df.uba.ar [157.92.11.80]) by woody.df.uba.ar (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k9HKQC0K031147; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:26:20 -0300 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:27:18 -0300 -From: Alejandro Jakubi +From: Alejandro Jakubi To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: doyen <200610170848.48522.Cliff Yapp> @@ -63560,7 +63560,7 @@ Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GdYqr-0006fG-3H; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:02:53 +0200 To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Ralf HEMMECKE Ralf Hemmecke, antoine.hersen@gmail.com + Ralf HEMMECKE Ralf Hemmecke, Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Formal Power Series <200610272021.k9RKLWZ24945@localhost.localdomain> diff --git a/book/2006-11.txt b/book/2006-11.txt index 4afce1e..481f5f0 100644 --- a/book/2006-11.txt +++ b/book/2006-11.txt @@ -596,7 +596,7 @@ Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GfKQP-0001IP-LF; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 -To: Bill Page, antoine.hersen@gmail.com +To: Bill Page, Antoine Hersen Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 From: Martin Rubey Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 @@ -37075,7 +37075,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.8.8 with SMTP id 8mr215180wxh.1163457866209; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.131.7 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:44:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:44:26 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer boundary="----=_Part_15699_21592738.1163457866184" Subject: Eval in Axiom/Aldor @@ -37178,7 +37178,7 @@ Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:25:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:26:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Cc: axiom-developer @@ -38028,7 +38028,7 @@ Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GjtVJ-0004Jl-3Y; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:18:49 +0100 -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100 @@ -38038,7 +38038,7 @@ Dear Antoine, great to see you here! -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -39098,7 +39098,7 @@ From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: compiler-improvements (was: src/hyper/Makefile.in) -Cc: Stephen Watt , list +Cc: Stephen Watt, list Hi Gaby, @@ -39678,7 +39678,7 @@ Received: by 10.70.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr1795610wxa.1163546372029; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.131.7 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor <9q4pt2785z.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> @@ -39700,7 +39700,7 @@ On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > > great to see you here! > -> "Antoine Hersen" writes: +> "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -40351,7 +40351,7 @@ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:24 -0500 Thread-Topic: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Thread-Index: AccIQ2DhQbmU4x+lRnmHuZiomAZgywAFxvTQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Cc: axiom-developer On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:20 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -40446,7 +40446,7 @@ as it does now for map. > > > > great to see you here! > > -> > "Antoine Hersen" writes: +> > "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: > > > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { @@ -56811,7 +56811,7 @@ Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr345354buc.1164105175108; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.181.2 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:54 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" +From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again @@ -57129,7 +57129,7 @@ Received: (from gdr@localhost) by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id kALDo1Ds022990; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:01 +0100 Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Antoine Hersen" +To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again @@ -57137,7 +57137,7 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 21 Nov 2006 14:50:01 +0100 Cc: list -"Antoine Hersen" writes: +"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: [...] @@ -57509,7 +57509,7 @@ Received: from cpc1-hers1-0-0-cust687.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.2.174.176]) Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:45:55 +0000 Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again From: Peter Broadbery -To: Antoine Hersen +To: Antoine Hersen Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:46:14 +0000 diff --git a/book/2006-12.txt b/book/2006-12.txt index cd274aa..2ec4498 100644 --- a/book/2006-12.txt +++ b/book/2006-12.txt @@ -14094,7 +14094,7 @@ To: "Stavros Macrakis" From: Camm Maguire Date: 20 Dec 2006 15:25:02 -0500 Cc: list, Bill Page, - Robert Dodier , gcl-devel@gnu.org, + Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Maxima] computation time information diff --git a/book/2007-06.txt b/book/2007-06.txt index 6ac9cf5..872f24e 100644 --- a/book/2007-06.txt +++ b/book/2007-06.txt @@ -47675,7 +47675,7 @@ Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) for list; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:03:52 -0400 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from ) id 1I2q6Z-0003dj-LG + (envelope-from Robert Dodier) id 1I2q6Z-0003dj-LG for list; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:03:51 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so967550wri for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT) @@ -47689,7 +47689,7 @@ Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr2623048hue.1182783830000; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.155.20 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:03:49 -0600 -From: "Robert Dodier" +From: "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier To: Camm Maguire <200706221313.l5MDDw6E029725@elgin.cs.utexas.edu> <54wsxvvf96.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> @@ -47984,8 +47984,8 @@ Received: (from kaufmann@localhost) Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:42:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:42:24 -0500 From: Matt Kaufmann -To: robert.dodier@gmail.com - (robert.dodier@gmail.com) +To: Robert Dodier + (Robert Dodier) <200706221313.l5MDDw6E029725@elgin.cs.utexas.edu> <54wsxvvf96.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> @@ -48022,7 +48022,7 @@ Thanks -- h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uc7KjbTveZ5Y+baAcGZZ+FkahsWXBfq25sEF599pvFHDLdFq/ZCNUJWflqsNaRltPGEdYCNVtW6EW8zr4bUbf5IGM5N8J9BbzKGWSj6Va3qC3KFjA31NtFJe7ShtugO6Ys0hWjTy+SiDbmLNAl30ImZOZk7id3U/8HeSjR+9t8M= Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:03:49 -0600 - From: "Robert Dodier" + From: "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier Cc: "Robert Boyer" Robert Boyer, maxima@math.utexas.edu, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, "Matt Kaufmann" Matt Kaufmann diff --git a/book/2007-07.txt b/book/2007-07.txt index ff9e877..56dfa43 100644 --- a/book/2007-07.txt +++ b/book/2007-07.txt @@ -9799,7 +9799,7 @@ To: gcl-devel@gnu.org MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) From: Camm Maguire Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:58:02 -0400 -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier , +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Maxima mailing list , list Subject: gcl inlining policy @@ -9867,7 +9867,7 @@ To: gcl-devel@gnu.org MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) From: Camm Maguire Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:03:56 -0400 -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier , +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Maxima mailing list , list Subject: gcl safety definition @@ -9937,7 +9937,7 @@ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:09:16 -0500 From: Matt Kaufmann To: Camm Maguire Maguire on Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:58:02 -0400) -Cc: Robert Boyer, robert.dodier@gmail.com, gcl-devel@gnu.org, +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: Re: gcl inlining policy @@ -9958,7 +9958,7 @@ Thanks -- -- Matt cc: Robert Boyer, Matt Kaufmann, Tim Daly, list, - "Robert Dodier" , + "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier, Maxima mailing list From: Camm Maguire Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:58:02 -0400 @@ -10092,7 +10092,7 @@ Received: (from daly@localhost) Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:20:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:20:05 -0500 To: "Camm Maguire" -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier , +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: gcl inlining policy @@ -10488,7 +10488,7 @@ To: raymond.toy@ericsson.com 06 Jul 2007 13:36:39 -0400) <200707061709.l66H9Ggw007642@sundance.cs.utexas.edu> <468E7DA7.6090800@ericsson.com> -Cc: Robert Boyer, robert.dodier@gmail.com, gcl-devel@gnu.org, +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Camm Maguire, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: Re: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy @@ -10497,7 +10497,7 @@ Good point; thanks! -- Matt Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:36:39 -0400 From: Raymond Toy - CC: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer, robert.dodier@gmail.com, + CC: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Tim Daly, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2007 17:36:40.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[360F3440:01C7BFF4] @@ -10601,7 +10601,7 @@ To: "'Raymond Toy'" , Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:21:44 -0700 charset="us-ascii" Thread-index: AcfAEG3zIg6uXqNEThWEWqdh2j5r/gAAi7gg -Cc: Robert Boyer, 'Robert Dodier' , +Cc: Robert Boyer, 'Robert Dodier' Robert Dodier, 'Matt Kaufmann' Matt Kaufmann, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: RE: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy @@ -11857,7 +11857,7 @@ From: Raymond Toy To: Matt Kaufmann <200707061709.l66H9Ggw007642@sundance.cs.utexas.edu> FILETIME=[360F3440:01C7BFF4] -Cc: Robert Boyer, robert.dodier@gmail.com, gcl-devel@gnu.org, +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Camm Maguire, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: Re: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy @@ -11910,7 +11910,7 @@ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:55:28 -0400 From: Raymond Toy To: Tim Daly FILETIME=[FC2E8CA0:01C7C00F] -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier , +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Maxima@math.utexas.edu, list Subject: Re: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy @@ -24052,7 +24052,7 @@ Take care, > > To: gcl-devel@gnu.org > > cc: Robert Boyer, Matt Kaufmann, > > Tim Daly, list, -> > "Robert Dodier" , +> > "Robert Dodier" Robert Dodier, > > Maxima mailing list > > Subject: gcl inlining policy > > From: Camm Maguire @@ -24099,7 +24099,7 @@ Take care, > > From: "Richard Fateman" Richard Fateman > > To: "'Raymond Toy'" , Tim Daly > > Cc: Robert Boyer, "'Camm Maguire'" , -> > "'Robert Dodier'" , +> > "'Robert Dodier'" Robert Dodier, > > "'Matt Kaufmann'" Matt Kaufmann, , > > > > Subject: RE: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy diff --git a/book/2007-09.txt b/book/2007-09.txt index 7be8fc0..f55e033 100644 --- a/book/2007-09.txt +++ b/book/2007-09.txt @@ -1702,7 +1702,7 @@ Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? <20070904033910.GD12628@ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca> Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, - aldor-l , Laurentiu Dragan , + aldor-l , Laurentiu Dragan, Axiom-Developer , open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net @@ -2182,7 +2182,7 @@ Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) for list; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:48:38 -0400 Received: from v320-147-lb.its.uwo.ca ([129.100.74.147] helo=uwo.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from ) id 1ISeO6-0000nV-0J + (envelope-from Laurentiu Dragan) id 1ISeO6-0000nV-0J for list; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:48:38 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from zeppo.mail.uwo.pri (salk.mail.uwo.pri [172.29.32.41]) @@ -2196,7 +2196,7 @@ Received: from [129.100.16.153] by zeppo.mail.uwo.pri list; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <46DDB693.8050601@uwo.ca> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:48:35 -0400 -From: Laurentiu Dragan +From: Laurentiu Dragan To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> @@ -2254,7 +2254,7 @@ Received: by 10.86.71.1 with SMTP id t1mr4570119fga.1188937084424; Received: by 10.86.57.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:18:04 -0400 From: "Bill Page" -To: "Laurentiu Dragan" +To: "Laurentiu Dragan" Laurentiu Dragan Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Axiom for Aldor or Aldor for Axiom? <878x7nrvyu.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> @@ -2267,7 +2267,7 @@ Cc: Stephen Watt, fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, Axiom-Developer , open-axiom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net -On 9/4/07, Laurentiu Dragan wrote: +On 9/4/07, Laurentiu Dragan wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > This reminds me to mention that the issue of FOAM and other Aldor > > documentation was also raised at the recent Aldor Workshop. One thing diff --git a/book/2007-10.txt b/book/2007-10.txt index a852ad7..33cf12b 100644 --- a/book/2007-10.txt +++ b/book/2007-10.txt @@ -24659,7 +24659,7 @@ Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:48:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey, - Stephen Watt , aldor-l + Stephen Watt, aldor-l <9qzlyca6yz.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Cc: axiom-devel , fricas-devel@googlegroups.com, open-axiom-devel diff --git a/book/2009-03.txt b/book/2009-03.txt index ec844dd..3b8299e 100644 --- a/book/2009-03.txt +++ b/book/2009-03.txt @@ -8926,7 +8926,7 @@ Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53911 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) for list; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:56:35 -0500 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.242]:40140) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from ) id 1Lf00x-0002T7-CY + (envelope-from Antoine Hersen) id 1Lf00x-0002T7-CY for list; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:56:35 -0500 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so2195252ana.37 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:56:34 -0800 (PST) @@ -8946,7 +8946,7 @@ DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; Received: by 10.100.164.12 with SMTP id m12mr361406ane.144.1236207392682; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:56:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:56:32 -0600 -From: Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: axiom-developer Subject: music from Bethan diff --git a/book/2009-12.txt b/book/2009-12.txt index 423dba2..eb4eeb3 100644 --- a/book/2009-12.txt +++ b/book/2009-12.txt @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ From: Tim Daly Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke <4B010CA5.8060108@hemmecke.de> <4B14C0CD.2020006@hemmecke.de> Cc: fricas-devel , aldor-l , - Mike Dewar, Stephen Watt , + Mike Dewar, Stephen Watt, Axiom-Developer Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] License for FriCAS-Aldor interface files diff --git a/book/2011-10.txt b/book/2011-10.txt index a0a7fcf..71617a4 100644 --- a/book/2011-10.txt +++ b/book/2011-10.txt @@ -515,7 +515,7 @@ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:27:41 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 To: Tim Daly -Cc: Stephen Watt , list +Cc: Stephen Watt, list Subject: Re: Aldor On 10/16/2011 09:14 PM, Tim Daly wrote: diff --git a/changelog b/changelog index bd099b7..acf5177 100644 --- a/changelog +++ b/changelog @@ -1,3 +1,5 @@ +20140511 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140511.01.tpd.patch +20140511 tpd book/*.txt email cleanup 20140509 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140509.03.tpd.patch 20140509 tpd book/*.txt email cleanup 20140509 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140509.02.tpd.patch diff --git a/src/axiom-website/patches.html b/src/axiom-website/patches.html index 077cb73..7c1e884 100644 --- a/src/axiom-website/patches.html +++ b/src/axiom-website/patches.html @@ -4334,6 +4334,8 @@ book/*.txt email cleanup books/bookvolbib.pamphlet 20140509.03.tpd.patch book/*.txt email cleanup +20140511.01.tpd.patch +book/*.txt email cleanup