diff --git a/book/2002-11.txt b/book/2002-11.txt index 2e359f2..c1b1359 100644 --- a/book/2002-11.txt +++ b/book/2002-11.txt @@ -3680,7 +3680,7 @@ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 2:32:19 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Joris van der Hoeven Subject: visual literate programming - +Cc: Nicolas M. Thiery, Dylan Thurston, Philippe Toffin, Barry Trager, Carlo Traverso, Theodore Thomas Tsikas, Gioia M. Vago, Joris van der Hoeven, Leonid Vaserstein, Nikolay Vassiliev Tim and Joris, I have now started to become quite familiar with TeXmacs diff --git a/book/2003-09.txt b/book/2003-09.txt index 5f6545b..d912fb3 100644 --- a/book/2003-09.txt +++ b/book/2003-09.txt @@ -9357,6 +9357,7 @@ known to build? Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:05:39 +0200 From: Juergen Weiss To: David Mentre +Subject: preserving case Cc: Bill Page As I already wrote in a previous mail, the axiom system should diff --git a/book/2003-10.txt b/book/2003-10.txt index d78b7a5..8be457a 100644 --- a/book/2003-10.txt +++ b/book/2003-10.txt @@ -3481,8 +3481,8 @@ I get the chance. \start Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:12:01 -0400 -To: Tim Daly From: Dylan Thurston +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: partfrac, expand, combine, rewrite and simplify. Cc: Francois Maltey @@ -6347,8 +6347,8 @@ Thanks. \start Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:43:29 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: chunking Hello Tim, @@ -14031,8 +14031,8 @@ I haven't explored the Aldor connection yet. \start Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:01:59 +0100 -To: Bertfried Fauser From: David Mentre +To: Bertfried Fauser Subject: Re: compilation (SuSE 8.0) Hello Bertfried, diff --git a/book/2003-11.txt b/book/2003-11.txt index 8827f07..9e218ba 100644 --- a/book/2003-11.txt +++ b/book/2003-11.txt @@ -27339,9 +27339,9 @@ their feedback. \start Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:49:25 -0500 From: "Sandy Payette" -To: Tim Daly, , +To: Tim Daly, Thorny Staples, Ross Wayland Subject: RE: Fedora and Literate Programming -Cc: Gilbert Baumslag, Chris Wilper +Cc: Gilbert Baumslag, Chris Wilper Hi Tim, @@ -27357,7 +27357,7 @@ Let me know times that would work, and I'll compare schedules. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Daly [mailto:Tim Daly] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:04 PM -> To: tls@virginia.edu; rlw@virginia.edu; Sandy Payette +> To: Thorny Staples; Ross Wayland; Sandy Payette > Cc: Tim Daly; Tim Daly; Gilbert Baumslag; > list @@ -27448,7 +27448,7 @@ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:48:34 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Sandra Payette Subject: Re: Fedora and Literate Programming -Cc: rlw@virginia.edu, Gilbert Baumslag, cwilper@cs.cornell.edu, tls@virginia.edu +Cc: Ross Wayland, Gilbert Baumslag, Chris Wilper, Thorny Staples Sandy, diff --git a/book/2003-12.txt b/book/2003-12.txt index 61b5c95..cebf511 100644 --- a/book/2003-12.txt +++ b/book/2003-12.txt @@ -1232,8 +1232,8 @@ Nic Doye \start Date: 10 Dec 2003 10:03:14 -0500 -To: Vadim V. Zhytnikov From: Camm Maguire +To: Vadim V. Zhytnikov Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] GCL on mingw Cc: Mike Thomas @@ -3464,8 +3464,8 @@ I've started with : RDF Primer: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-primer/ \start Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:33:14 +0100 -To: Tim Daly From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: crystal and the semantic web David Mentre writes: diff --git a/book/2004-01.txt b/book/2004-01.txt index e9a5740..7b159bb 100644 --- a/book/2004-01.txt +++ b/book/2004-01.txt @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ enhancements doubtlessly possible, though of what interest ... \start Date: 03 Jan 2004 23:46:05 -0500 From: Camm Maguire -To: ddj@gyxi.dk +To: Dennis Decker Jensen Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] readline support [ re: command line completion with readline enabled GCL and derivatives] @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ Suggestions for maxima/acl2/axiom appreciated. Take care, -ddj@gyxi.dk writes: +Dennis Decker Jensen writes: > However, I'm not sure whether this should be the > external symbols of the current package, external @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:44:48 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] readline support -Cc: ddj@gyxi.dk +Cc: Dennis Decker Jensen Do you call an internal "completion" function? If so, what parameters does it take? @@ -387,7 +387,7 @@ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 11:36:11 -0500 From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] readline support -Cc: ddj@gyxi.dk +Cc: Dennis Decker Jensen Greetings! diff --git a/book/2004-02.txt b/book/2004-02.txt index 12406fb..9840c06 100644 --- a/book/2004-02.txt +++ b/book/2004-02.txt @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -\start +g\start Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:11:21 +0100 From: David Mentre To: Camm Maguire @@ -115,8 +115,8 @@ I'm trying to use GNU Arch for Axiom and a view would be useful. \start Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 13:40:17 +0900 (JST) -To: Tim Daly From: Tez Kamihira +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ViewARCH Hi, diff --git a/book/2004-05.txt b/book/2004-05.txt index 5114fcb..57e252a 100644 --- a/book/2004-05.txt +++ b/book/2004-05.txt @@ -1354,8 +1354,8 @@ at the moment. \start Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:43:10 +0200 -To: Bill Page From: David Mentre +To: Bill Page Subject: re: Axiom on Zaurus Bill Page writes: diff --git a/book/2004-11.txt b/book/2004-11.txt index 38c07a3..287bd9e 100644 --- a/book/2004-11.txt +++ b/book/2004-11.txt @@ -10308,8 +10308,8 @@ I'll look into this further. Thanks for the analysis so far. --t \start Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:22:54 -0800 (PST) -To: Tim Daly, Bill Page From: Cliff Yapp +To: Tim Daly, Bill Page Subject: Re: [AxiomFoundation] publishing of "Axiom - The 30 Year Horizon" at Lulu Cc: Camm Maguire, Mike Dewar, Bob McElrath diff --git a/book/2004-12.txt b/book/2004-12.txt index 29752bd..9e0a9d9 100644 --- a/book/2004-12.txt +++ b/book/2004-12.txt @@ -21623,8 +21623,8 @@ Tim Daly writes: \start Date: 15 Dec 2004 09:39:44 -0500 -To: Kostas Oikonomou From: Camm Maguire +To: Kostas Oikonomou Subject: Re: More on building Axiom and GCL on Solaris 9 Greetings! @@ -25989,8 +25989,8 @@ step to see if it completes properly or if it is hung somewhere. \start Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:45:06 +0100 (CET) -To: Bill Page From: Meino Christian Cramer +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Compile errors on Axiom 2004-11-15 Cc: Camm Maguire diff --git a/book/2005-01.txt b/book/2005-01.txt index 6b197d0..84b4e13 100644 --- a/book/2005-01.txt +++ b/book/2005-01.txt @@ -4876,8 +4876,8 @@ working on Axiom :-) Congrats. Hope everything works out ok. \start Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:20:05 -0500 -To: list From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: list Subject: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified I just discovered that the problem I reported a few days ago is caused by @@ -5429,8 +5429,8 @@ languages. This is in the mozilla/firefox preferences. \start Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:21:26 +0100 -To: list From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list Subject: Re: Issue tracker: Language selection Happy new (gregorian) year to everybody and congratulations for the @@ -5999,8 +5999,8 @@ I'll report back after the build finishes. \start Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:26:00 -0500 -To: Tim Daly From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Problem with patch 23 and Solaris 9 identified Cc: Camm Maguire @@ -11518,7 +11518,6 @@ level of errors? :) Sorry I can't be of much help with Solaris yet. \start - Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:19:14 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey @@ -13862,8 +13861,8 @@ the segment is 1..1 or 1..3). Date: 13 Jan 2005 09:20:07 -0500 From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly -Cc: Charles Miller Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] [Charles Miller: magnus and axiom questions] +Cc: Charles Miller Greetings! I have access to a testing machine which used to run FC2 and now appears to be upgraded to FC3. How do I tell for sure? (just @@ -14466,15 +14465,6 @@ version 3.0, are listed here: This is nearly working, as you can see on AldorForAxiom. The rationale is that we might attract (and join) the Aldor community Furthermore, I think that people would gain confidence, since Aldor ---removed: -- -- - Windows port. -- - ---removed: -- -- Original from: http://www.linux-france.org/~dmentre/axiom/release-1.0/todo-list-for-1.0.html - \start Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:46:55 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) @@ -14547,10 +14537,9 @@ There are some [screenshots] available and you can try out Axiom "online":AxiomInterface! \start +Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [screenshots] (nouveau) Some matrix computations under TeXmacs. Please notice the hierarchical @@ -42987,8 +42976,7 @@ Status: => open Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:27:01 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Subject: [#10312 bugs Problems raising a UTS to a negative - integer power] (renamed) +Subject: [#10312 bugs Problems raising a UTS to a negative integer power] (renamed) This page was renamed from #10312 bugs to #10312 bugs Problems raising a UTS to a negative integer power. diff --git a/book/2005-02.txt b/book/2005-02.txt index 57a224c..8aa4ada 100644 --- a/book/2005-02.txt +++ b/book/2005-02.txt @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ \start Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:01:44 -0500 -To: Martin Rubey From: Kostas Oikonomou +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] beginner question about sum(...) Hello Martin, diff --git a/book/2005-03.txt b/book/2005-03.txt index deb8e53..a465f5a 100644 --- a/book/2005-03.txt +++ b/book/2005-03.txt @@ -8342,15 +8342,11 @@ root writes: > plan is to spend the day fixing outstanding issues from issuetracker. > These fixes will be on the arch server in May implying they will be > available in June. -> -> Tim -> -> \start Date: 28 Mar 2005 11:12:27 -0500 -To: Balbir Thomas From: Camm Maguire +To: Balbir Thomas Subject: Re: Debian/Stable Packages Built + Summary of issues Greetings, and thanks for your work on this! Nice website too. We @@ -9494,8 +9490,8 @@ permission. Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:24:14 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Paul Leopardi -Cc: Ian Sloan Subject: Re: Clifford Algebra presentation +Cc: Ian Sloan Paul, diff --git a/book/2005-04.txt b/book/2005-04.txt index 051f3e4..99acc73 100644 --- a/book/2005-04.txt +++ b/book/2005-04.txt @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 04:58:07 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 04:58:07 -0600 Subject: [recurrence relation operator] (nouveau) Here is a simple implemention of a recurrence relation operator. It is far @@ -119,9 +119,9 @@ eval(r, a=7) \end{axiom} \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 05:43:59 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 05:43:59 -0600 Subject: [RationalInterpolation] contains something useful. In particular, in my package [Guess], @@ -135,9 +135,9 @@ Subject: [RationalInterpolation] zur Gathen's book "Modern computer algebra", chapter 10. \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:59:20 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:59:20 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] This and the log(i)-log(-i) bug can be fixed by using GCL's asin and log here. I tried @@ -155,18 +155,18 @@ but the form of x when complex in axiom is not that of lisp, i.e. asin gets pass In general, I think it a good idea to avoid having to duplicate the functionality of the standard lisp functions in axiom, but there may be some philosophical reason for doing this due to the domain structures or some such. If one needs the correct logic for a duplicate implementation, one can look at the gcl_numlib.lsp file in the lsp/ subdirectory. \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:10:50 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:10:50 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] ... No, here it is a Complex(Float), the implementation of float allow arbitrary precision, Common Lisp no. Morever, it'a generic implementation (in a category) \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:11:51 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:11:51 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] OK, then what we want is something like: @@ -182,9 +182,9 @@ I understand the multi-precision argument, but is there a difference between a ' Lastly, do we have to use this difficult interface as opposed to the developer email list? \start +Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:48:10 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:48:10 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] ... 'take care' ... Yes I think it's a good idea to add mpfr to gcl @@ -192,9 +192,9 @@ Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] ... Regards \start +Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 03:21:46 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 03:21:46 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] I believe furthermore, that the problem with 'argument' as described in bug #47 will persist if we fix it this way. @@ -211,9 +211,9 @@ Concerning the place of discussion: I too think that it would be better to: Since any change on IssueTracker will notify axiom-developer, there is no danger of missing anything. \start +Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:07:14 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:07:14 -0600 Subject: [#138 asin(complex(1.0,0.0))] I think that the following definition would @@ -228,9 +228,9 @@ There is one thing that puzzles me, though. Also in 'TRANFUN', the following def which seems to be asking for trouble. However, I couldn't find a domain that would use this definition for 'pi()'. Maybe it should be rather defined in terms of 'atan'? \start +Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:13:27 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:13:27 -0600 Subject: [recurrence relation operator] * I don't think that the following can be justified mathematically: @@ -247,9 +247,9 @@ subst(%,n=2.5) \end{axiom} \start +Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 11:44:11 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 11:44:11 -0600 Subject: [#141 atan(tan(3)) => 3] ElementaryFunction It's iatan in ElementaryFunction @@ -543,15 +543,18 @@ would be that the hyperdoc links are not file names, but are global name tags, by which the location of a constructor (file and tag) can be obtained from a database or table. -\start Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:05:04 -0500 From: MathAction -(anonymous) To: MathAction Subject: [#144 Domain abbreviation is no -longer associated with filename] (new) The hyperdoc and )show commands -associate the source file of a package with abbreviation xxx to -xxx.spad. This is not correct and sometimes the xxx is not even close -to the correct file name. Please note that one spad file may contain -many domains and packages. So most clicks in hyperdoc on the source -file results in file not found and it is a guessing game what the -right file is. +\start +Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:05:04 -0500 +From: MathAction (anonymous) +To: MathAction +Subject: [#144 Domain abbreviation is no longer associated with filename] + +The hyperdoc and )show commands associate the source file of a package +with abbreviation xxx to xxx.spad. This is not correct and sometimes +the xxx is not even close to the correct file name. Please note that +one spad file may contain many domains and packages. So most clicks in +hyperdoc on the source file results in file not found and it is a +guessing game what the right file is. An example is SOLVETRA package where the spad file is transsolve.spad; another is EF where the file is elemntry.spad. @@ -2090,8 +2093,8 @@ I am a very new AXIOM's user but I already beleive AXIOM is great. Date: 26 Apr 2005 10:16:23 -0400 From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly -Cc: Mike Thomas Subject: Possible GCL 2.6.7 for axiom +Cc: Mike Thomas Hi Tim! Great conference! @@ -2264,9 +2267,9 @@ Axiom needs. \start Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:51:21 +0200 -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: page.axiom-developer.org not resolved (DNS) +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: list +Subject: Re: page.axiom-developer.org not resolved (DNS) Hi, diff --git a/book/2005-05.txt b/book/2005-05.txt index cd228c2..bb62aa7 100644 --- a/book/2005-05.txt +++ b/book/2005-05.txt @@ -6609,9 +6609,9 @@ year--and I hope you'll be able to join us. \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Barry Trager Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:36:17 -0400 +From: Barry Trager +To: Tim Daly Subject: fix for occasional failure in pgcd.spad I have discovered and fixed a bug in pgcd.spad which occasionally @@ -7086,10 +7086,9 @@ PS. I added a link to your new web page here: http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentation \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 15:08:36 -0500 -To: Christophe.Conil@UTBM.fr, Quentin.Carpent@UTBM.fr -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Christophe Conil, Quentin Carpent Subject: french documentation Christophe, Quentin, diff --git a/book/2005-06.txt b/book/2005-06.txt index 3be5cb3..b847601 100644 --- a/book/2005-06.txt +++ b/book/2005-06.txt @@ -2250,8 +2250,8 @@ Greg \start Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Clifton Williamson -Subject: Re: Manuel Bronstein To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: Manuel Bronstein Manuel was my office mate when I worked on Axiom (then Scratchpad) at IBM Watson labs and I later worked with @@ -12689,8 +12689,12 @@ Subject: [#180 bug #9216 differentiating sums with respect to a bound is wrong] Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:52:58 -0500 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Subject: [#180 bug #9216 differentiating sums with respect to a bound is wrong] - The function $n\mapsto\sum_{k=1}^n f(k,n)$ is well defined only for integral values of $n$ greater than or equal to zero. There is not even consensus how to define this function for $n<0$. Thus, it is not differentiable. The fix I propose is thus +Subject: [#180 bug #9216 differentiating sums with respect to a bound is wrong] + + The function $n\mapsto\sum_{k=1}^n f(k,n)$ is well defined only for + integral values of $n$ greater than or equal to zero. There is not + even consensus how to define this function for $n<0$. Thus, it is + not differentiable. The fix I propose is thus dvdpatch2.patch diff --git a/book/2005-07.txt b/book/2005-07.txt index 062f55c..746c559 100644 --- a/book/2005-07.txt +++ b/book/2005-07.txt @@ -1735,9 +1735,9 @@ To check it out type: The project is writeable by everyone who has sent me ssh keys. \start +Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:17:17 -0500 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:17:17 -0500 Subject: [MathAction problems] edit and preview window synchronization William Sit wrote: @@ -1754,9 +1754,9 @@ Please let me know how this works for you. If there is a problem, please tell me what browser you are using. \start +Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:39:23 -0500 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:39:23 -0500 Subject: [MathAction problems] Try clicking the box labelled 'Sync()' below the edit scrollbar. @@ -1765,9 +1765,9 @@ When this box is checked 'Sync(x)' the edit and preview windows are On !FireFox (due to a bug in current version of !FireFox) the sychnronization \start +Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:25:37 -0500 From: MathAction (William Sit) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:25:37 -0500 Subject: [MathAction problems] [MathAction problems] edit and preview windowsynchronization billpage wrote: diff --git a/book/2005-08.txt b/book/2005-08.txt index 2f77788..73ec8c7 100644 --- a/book/2005-08.txt +++ b/book/2005-08.txt @@ -157,9 +157,9 @@ MaplePrimes users to interact and share their work. \start +Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:35:52 -0500 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:35:52 -0500 Subject: [MaplePrimes] (new) Two of the most significant features of MaplePrimes are moderated @@ -255,9 +255,9 @@ To "search":http:/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/searchwiki \start +Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:35:17 -0500 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:35:17 -0500 Subject: [AxiomDownload] change to www.axiom-developer.org as standard site name sources":http:/zope/mathaction/Mirrors?go=http://axiom.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/DOWNLOADS/axiom-Apr2005-src.tgz&it=April+2005+Sources @@ -13473,8 +13473,8 @@ anyone already knows why. \start Date: 26 Aug 2005 18:03:03 -0400 -To: Tim Daly From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.7 and FC4 Greetings! diff --git a/book/2005-10.txt b/book/2005-10.txt index ec972b8..da35837 100644 --- a/book/2005-10.txt +++ b/book/2005-10.txt @@ -7666,8 +7666,8 @@ from scratch. \start Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:29:02 +0200 -To: list From: Renaud Rioboo +To: list Subject: Cylindrical Algebraic Decompostion for Axiom Dear Axiom fans, @@ -10675,9 +10675,9 @@ The definition of 'OASGP' should read:: OrderedAbelianSemiGroup(): Category == Join(OrderedSet, AbelianSemiGroup) \start +Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:10:01 +0200 From: Gregory Vanuxem To: list -Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:10:01 +0200 Subject: proxy error at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage In an attempt to join http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage @@ -10967,9 +10967,9 @@ or sending an email but they will click on a web link and take a good look around web site with much less hesitation. \start +Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:34:35 -0500 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:34:35 -0500 Subject: [#102 solve(sinh(z)=cosh(z),z) ] Why is "append" written with quotation marks? Martin, can you explain to me what this function call in the original code @@ -11040,9 +11040,9 @@ there doesn't appear to be a three argument form of this construct, so I propose to (gradually) replace it by 'reduce' everywhere. \start +Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:47:41 -0500 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:47:41 -0500 Subject: [#102 solve(sinh(z)=cosh(z), z) ] "append"/[solve1Sys(plist, lvar) for plist in trianglist] @@ -11129,8 +11129,8 @@ how much use this would ever see. \start Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Aldor and Lisp To: Camm Maguire, Peter Broadbery +Subject: Re: Aldor and Lisp > > Anyway, just thought I'd offer some support. Anyone know of a lisp > > parser generator? @@ -12922,10 +12922,10 @@ techniques and useful tidbits. Tim \start -Subject: RE: debugging information +Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:06:43 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:06:43 -0400 +Subject: RE: debugging information On Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:32 PM you wrote: > @@ -19367,9 +19367,9 @@ Subject: [#133 missing \begin{quote} in Chapter on "Using Types and Modes"] prop Status: open => pending (next release) \start +Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:21:49 -0600 From: MathAction (Tim Daly) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:21:49 -0600 Subject: [#133 missing \begin{quote} in Chapter on "Using Types and Modes"] seems to be there already. But I've checked it anyway. --Tim @@ -19514,9 +19514,9 @@ works, and \end{axiom} \start +Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:50:27 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:50:27 -0600 Subject: [#165 stream2.input] Tests 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 still fail In the version of Axiom used on MathAction which was compiled @@ -19699,8 +19699,8 @@ Status: closed => open \start Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:36:36 -0500 -To: list From: Balbir Thomas +To: list Subject: 3D canvas for Tcl/Tk I remember that there was some talk about rewriting the axiom diff --git a/book/2005-11.txt b/book/2005-11.txt index e00bfb8..d10182f 100644 --- a/book/2005-11.txt +++ b/book/2005-11.txt @@ -9482,8 +9482,8 @@ code to Lisp as soon as Tim tells me that he'll accept such patches. \start Date: 07 Nov 2005 17:13:55 +0100 -To: Bill Page From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: re: [fspace.spad] dvi file display Bill Page writes: @@ -12143,8 +12143,8 @@ On November 7, 2005 11:14 AM you wrote: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:30:50 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Dan Zwillinger -Cc: Richard Fateman Subject: Re: integration server +Cc: Richard Fateman Dan, @@ -16595,8 +16595,8 @@ help ensure that what we distribute is trusted by Axiom users. Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Bob McElrath -Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser Subject: Axiom + High Energy Physics +Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser --- Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -17025,8 +17025,8 @@ process too awkward for developers. We need some help with this. Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:11:19 -0800 From: Bob McElrath To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser Subject: Re: Axiom + High Energy Physics +Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > --- Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -17161,8 +17161,8 @@ http://www.dodccrp.org/events/2005/10th/CD/papers/227.pdf Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:27:46 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: Bob McElrath -Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser Subject: Re: Axiom + High Energy Physics +Cc: Camm Maguire, Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser --- Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -17889,8 +17889,8 @@ ACM Trans. on Math. Soft. (TOMS) Vol 5, pp308--325 (1979) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:19:09 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser, Camm Maguire Subject: Re: Axiom + High Energy Physics +Cc: Nicolas Thiery, Bertfried Fauser, Camm Maguire (this is a resend) .... i just clipped and tested what i sent out and i managed to accidently delete the \usepackage line without diff --git a/book/2005-12.txt b/book/2005-12.txt index 14c215c..96c21d6 100644 --- a/book/2005-12.txt +++ b/book/2005-12.txt @@ -15841,9 +15841,9 @@ but if one wanted the output to appear as: this doesn't work. So how does one deal with output formatting for Expression Integers? \start +Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:09:29 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:09:29 -0600 Subject: [AxiomOutputFormatting] You have to say @@ -15856,9 +15856,9 @@ since you have an expression here, not a polynomial. In general, to modify the way Axiom outputs your expressions, you have to write a wrapper domain that replaces 'coerce: % -> OutputForm' with your own code. This is not difficult, I have done this to convince Axiom to "output expressions in distributed form":SandBoxDistributedExpression. \start +Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:40:44 -0600 From: MathAction (kratt6) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:40:44 -0600 Subject: [#237 fails to display proper TeX] (new) My TeX does not complain (and displays it correctly) diff --git a/book/2006-01.txt b/book/2006-01.txt index 0342783..e6a914d 100644 --- a/book/2006-01.txt +++ b/book/2006-01.txt @@ -1779,8 +1779,8 @@ On Thursday 05 January 2006 12.26, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: \start Date: 05 Jan 2006 13:23:19 -0500 -To: Gordon Novak From: Camm Maguire +To: Gordon Novak Subject: Re: GCL and Ubuntu Cc: Robert Boyer, David Kotz, Warren Hunt, Matt Kaufmann, Wilfred Legato @@ -2640,10 +2640,8 @@ where could I download it from for offline use? \start Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:48:53 -0500 From: Bill Page -Subject: re: Doyen To: Alfredo Portes - -Jose, +Subject: re: Doyen On Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:19 AM you wrote: @@ -3435,12 +3433,10 @@ UWO Graduate \start Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:41:24 +0100 -To: list From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list Subject: Re: Aldor? -Hi, - On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:57:37PM -0500, Bill Page wrote: > On January 12, 2006 11:39 AM Jay Belanger wrote: > > diff --git a/book/2006-02.txt b/book/2006-02.txt index 56b04d5..adbda90 100644 --- a/book/2006-02.txt +++ b/book/2006-02.txt @@ -1428,9 +1428,9 @@ Thanks a lot for publishing the book, very nice and usefull work. \start +Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:43:23 -0600 From: MathAction (Ralf Hemmecke) To: MathAction -Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:43:23 -0600 Subject: [FreeAldor] ... Aldor is a great language. @@ -2442,8 +2442,8 @@ r2: MyRational2 := 1$MyRational2 \start Date: 07 Feb 2006 15:32:25 +0100 -To: David Mentre From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: Preferred SCM David MENTRE David Mentre writes: @@ -4042,11 +4042,9 @@ I do want to take it down in a couple of days. \start Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:30:47 +0100 -Subject: RE: Help with JET From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page - -Hi, +Subject: RE: Help with JET I have tested JET with the December release of Axiom (downloaded the 01/25/06 at savannah) on Linux and that works correctly. @@ -16777,17 +16775,11 @@ time*. yes, thanks. I'm still puzzled as to why you're collapsing binding time distinction with constant vs. nullary function. --- gaby - - - \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:18:29 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:18:29 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On February 22, 2006 10:35 AM C Y wrote: > > ... @@ -16840,23 +16832,10 @@ hard to describe this accurately in a few words but I think we need it to be as short as possible since we can everyone who meets Axiom to at least read this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <43FAFAA2.3000704@hemmecke.de> - - <43FB0131.9060102@hemmecke.de> - - <43FC4386.4000802@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 22 Feb 2006 16:00:44 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: 1: % Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -16894,17 +16873,11 @@ distinction is largely syntactic. it is not something fundamental in the context of your discussion about axiom and o stuff. Underneath, everything is a function in Aldor! - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 22 Feb 2006 14:54:55 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Feb 2006 14:54:55 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -17003,10 +16976,10 @@ EXPR(vars, coefficients) yet. Yes it has: 1 is a UP([x], INT). \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:47:37 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Time for another crazy idea... -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:47:37 -0500 On February 22, 2006 10:07 AM Gaby wrote: > @@ -17044,9 +17017,9 @@ set theory) and I do believe that is where we want to be in a computer algebra system like Axiom. \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:32:46 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:32:46 -0600 Subject: [AxiomCommunity] itovsn3 and LiveTeXmacs links itovsn3 (author: Wilfrid S. Kendall) -- @@ -17057,10 +17030,9 @@ ftp://math.cgu.edu.tw/pub/KNOPPIX ftp://math.cgu.edu.tw/pub/KNOPPIX/StocCal216.iso \start +Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:37:28 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:37:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Streams] Thanks for your reply! As a follow-up, I'd like to know how AXIOM can @@ -17069,9 +17041,9 @@ there isn't a finite 'for' or 'while' there somewhere. I would think that's undecidable in some weird cases. \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:48:41 -0600 From: MathAction (Bill Page) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:48:41 -0600 Subject: [Symbolic Ito Calculus] (new) itovsn3 (author: Wilfrid S. Kendall) @@ -17101,10 +17073,10 @@ final report for this grant is to be found "here":http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/kendall/personal/ca/k71677 \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:13:57 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: RE: about Expression Integer -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:13:57 -0500 Martin, @@ -17201,20 +17173,11 @@ in Axiom that is mathematically incorrect? What advantage does this odd behaviour of 'differentiate' have over a mathematically correct implementation? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:03 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: RE: about Expression Integer -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:05:03 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Martin, @@ -17270,9 +17233,9 @@ list of polynomial variables. 'variables(coefficient(P,0))' is the list of variables occurring in the term with degree 0. \start +Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a bug! I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to @@ -17358,10 +17321,10 @@ and break a long input into simpler steps. (iii) Users should not use the same identifier for two different objects. \start +Date: 23 Feb 2006 12:00:57 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: about Expression Integer -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 23 Feb 2006 12:00:57 +0100 Bill Page writes: @@ -17491,10 +17454,10 @@ Great. > along the way that concerns me now. \start -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:46 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Francois Maltey +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer On Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:11 PM Francois Maltey wrote: > @@ -17704,10 +17667,9 @@ Bill Page. \start +Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:31:10 -0600 From: MathAction (unknown) To: MathAction -Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:31:10 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [Streams] Clarifications It seems that the example [p for p in smallPrimes for i in 1..11] depends on multiple for clauses being interpreted in parallel instead of all their combinations. @@ -17719,8 +17681,8 @@ Does the conversion depend on the while p < 1200 used above instead of | p < 120 \start Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:06:54 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer Bill Page writes: @@ -17788,11 +17750,10 @@ done with a substitution map, explicitly, and the user should not use x in EXPR INT. \start -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:12:16 -0500 From: Bill Page -To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Ralf, @@ -18204,10 +18165,10 @@ But where is it written, that coerce in Axiom has to be a homomorphism? sets?) \start +Date: 24 Feb 2006 10:50:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Feb 2006 10:50:29 +0100 David Mentre writes: @@ -18317,8 +18278,7 @@ Axiom where I can do useful work. Shell scripting isn't one of them. Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:43:43 -0500 From: Bill Page To: "Mike Thomas" -Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Windows test installers CVS HEAD - and 2.6.8pre +Subject: RE: [Gcl-devel] Windows test installers CVS HEAD and 2.6.8pre Mike, @@ -18361,11 +18321,11 @@ adapt to the situation. I have not seen anything in autoconf that checks these conditions. \start +Date: 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Feb 2006 16:41:34 +0100 -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre Tim Daly writes: @@ -18393,19 +18353,11 @@ any other linux distribution that comply to SELinux. I hope to take on the configure issue as soon as my immediate horizon is cleared, so that we can conduct the discussion in less abstract terms. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: about Expression Integer Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:39:45 -0500 -Thread-Topic: about Expression Integer -Thread-Index: AcY5QyAu6TCoe8NvSTqVjPQa2r8ZmwAGSitQ From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Cc: list +Subject: RE: about Expression Integer William @@ -18854,10 +18806,10 @@ to analyze than the simple package call. I think that this is simply not possible in Axiom. \start +Date: 24 Feb 2006 07:54:40 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Feb 2006 07:54:40 +0100 David Mentre writes: @@ -18929,24 +18881,11 @@ who have faced and experienced wild shell variation issues. \start +Date: 24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - - <200602241504.k1OF4c032349@localhost.localdomain> - - <200602241754.k1OHsHk32406@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Feb 2006 18:28:07 +0100 -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre Tim Daly writes: @@ -18963,9 +18902,9 @@ I or any other person familiar with Autoconf may help implement the specification. \start +Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:59:31 -0600 From: MathAction (billpage) To: MathAction -Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:59:31 -0600 Subject: [Streams] infinite streams unknown asked: @@ -19043,10 +18982,9 @@ and list such design issues as William gave in his mail. That would be a common denominator that all Axiom developers should agree on. \start +Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:39:58 -0600 From: MathAction (root) To: MathAction - (MathAction) -Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:39:58 -0600 Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a bug! > Users should not use the same identifier for two different objects. @@ -19146,11 +19084,8 @@ http://www.aldor.org/docs/HTML/chap7.html#6 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:14:24 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page -Message-id: <43FEF8A0.522F82FB@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - @corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca> -Cc: list Subject: Re: 1/x x = 1 is a bug! +Cc: list Bill: @@ -19422,26 +19357,11 @@ POLY INT. May be you can give me an example where you MUST use (or at least it is desirable to use) the same identifier for two different objects in an Interpreter session? -William - - - \start +Date: 25 Feb 2006 07:14:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure - <200602191736.k1JHaeV28893@localhost.localdomain> - <87irr9ke02.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200602202107.k1KL7YY29658@localhost.localdomain> - <8764n9kbak.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> - <200602202346.k1KNkO629704@localhost.localdomain> - <877j7n5fns.fsf@linux-france.org> - - <3d13dcfc0602240026m25abadbav@mail.gmail.com> - - <3d13dcfc0602240203j279b7513y@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 25 Feb 2006 07:14:03 +0100 -Cc: list David Mentre writes: @@ -19454,10 +19374,10 @@ Tim -- Could you enlighten us on this? \start +Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:43:28 +0100 +From: David Mentre To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure -From: David Mentre -Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:43:28 +0100 Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -19486,8 +19406,6 @@ at this point it falls to superstition ("because it works"). Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:04:34 -0500 From: William Sit To: Bill Page, list -Message-id: <4400C662.E96A79@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 Subject: delayed distribution of mail Dear Bill: @@ -19519,18 +19437,11 @@ logging onto the Wiki pages directly, way before any subscribers can see the email. Indeed, I received your response (because you sent it directly to me) and responded way before anyone else may have seen this. -Thanks - -William --------- - \start +Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:08:00 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a bug! -Errors-To: axiom-developer-bounces+wyscc=cunyvm.cuny.edu@nongnu.org I think recently this issue of using the same 'identifier' 'x' to stand for two different 'variables' in two different domains (either @@ -19548,11 +19459,11 @@ useful in testing radical ideal membership of polynomial rings, and intersections of polynomial ideals, for example. \start +Date: 25 Feb 2006 23:02:40 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: William Sit Subject: Re: delayed distribution of mail -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 25 Feb 2006 23:02:40 +0100 -Cc: list, Bill Page +Cc: Bill Page William Sit writes: @@ -19566,15 +19477,10 @@ William Sit writes: yes, I have been experiencing that, and I did not know whether it was just me... --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:56:28 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:56:28 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] 1/x x = 1 is a feature(?) > Now Axiom having been forced to output the same identifier for two @@ -20161,10 +20067,10 @@ to analyze than the simple package call. I think that this is simply not possible in Axiom. \start +Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:59:37 -0500 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: delayed distribution of mail -Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:59:37 -0500 On February 25, 2006 4:05 PM William Sit wrote: > @@ -20222,27 +20128,18 @@ Bill Page. Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:36:58 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 25 Feb 2006 23:02:40 +0100) Subject: Re: delayed distribution of mail - -Cc: list, Bill Page +Cc: Bill Page the axiom mailing list is hosted at the free software foundation savannah server. there must be a problem there. -t - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Feb 2006 06:30:45 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures - -Hi, - The recent discussions about Axiom/Aldor being object-oriented or not, whether Axiom could be made to be "truly categorial" or not reminded be of a curiosity I found in Axiom's hierarchy for @@ -20267,17 +20164,11 @@ Thanks, -- Gaby PS: libalgebra has similar curiosities - - \start Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 01:32:22 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: about Expression Integer (with Quizzes) To: Bill Page -Message-id: <44014B76.1DAFD7F2@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - @corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: about Expression Integer (with Quizzes) "Page, Bill" wrote: > @@ -20718,12 +20609,10 @@ William \start +Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:09:27 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:09:27 -0600 -Cc: -Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] These - examples are wrong and due to user and Interpreter errors. +Subject: [DistributedMultivariatePolynomial] These examples are wrong and due to user and Interpreter errors. The fact that one can "explain" what the Axiom's Interpreter does to an input does not make its operation legitimate. Even though 'EXPR @@ -20825,9 +20714,9 @@ they would be correct too. Now have fun with the quizzes in SandBoxPolynomials. \start +Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:53:57 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:53:57 -0600 Subject: [#270 integrating UTS] typos (c) In the second line, Axiom fails (correctly) because the integral, which is 'log(x)', is not given by a Laurent series about 'x=0'. A better example is: @@ -20871,9 +20760,8 @@ see algebra source code for TUPLE Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:23:08 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Very simple calculus on matrix and vector. Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-math@nongnu.org -Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Very simple calculus on matrix - and vector. Hello Francois @@ -21039,10 +20927,9 @@ I hope, that helps. I'm sure you can translate the above code into something that concatenates vectors. \start +Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:39:19 -0600 From: MathAction (wyscc) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:39:19 -0600 -Cc: Subject: [FreeAldor] Axiom basically stayed stagnant for many years and it took a @@ -21056,8 +20943,8 @@ to involve a younger generation before it is too late. \start Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:10:59 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > In the impressive diagram titled "Basic Agebra Hierarchy" displayed @@ -21162,10 +21049,10 @@ main(): () == { main(); \start +Date: 26 Feb 2006 17:42:40 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: William Sit Subject: Re: Curiosities with Axiom mathematical structures -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Feb 2006 17:42:40 +0100 Hello Willian, @@ -21262,18 +21149,12 @@ or, simply, the set of natural numbers with as many monoidal structures as there are communitatuve functions f : NN x NN -> NN and neutral elements e : NN :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: axiom-developer Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:45:22 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: axiom-developer Subject: Compiler coercion and DoubleFloat -Hi, - Is it possible to avoid this compiler coercion ? The code is: @@ -21307,15 +21188,13 @@ But i want to obtain something like ((|elt| (|DoubleFloat|) |doublefloat|) 24.0) Is it possible ? - - Another question, where can i find (in src/interp) the code responsible of this coercion ? Tim any idea ? \start +Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:19:06 -0600 From: MathAction (anonymous) To: MathAction -Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:19:06 -0600 Subject: [#271 )show Expression Boolean gives a list] As I was looking for boolean simplification, I type )sh Expression Boolean. @@ -21357,8 +21236,8 @@ details may be wrong. \start Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:04:47 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: ASDF and ./configure Cc: list, David Mentre If it's anything like the GCL+localbfd issues I ran into, I think it diff --git a/book/2006-03.txt b/book/2006-03.txt index 2d282d0..d24fc5b 100644 --- a/book/2006-03.txt +++ b/book/2006-03.txt @@ -4510,18 +4510,12 @@ Also it might be a good idea to add a noweb security patch [1] to Axiom since Axiom builds and uses its own distribution and the version currently there has a few holes that could do with plugging :) -Thanks, - -Tim - -[1] http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/sci-mathematics/axiom/files/noweb-2.9-insecure-tmp-file.patch.input?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain - \start -From: Jean-Christophe Helary Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 01:18:27 +0900 +From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: Tim Daly -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list Subject: Re: French translation +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Tim, I just subscribed to axiom-dev. @@ -18888,8 +18882,8 @@ and then the amount of work going on at: \start Date: 29 Mar 2006 08:54:27 +0200 -To: Francois Maltey From: Francois Maltey +To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: choose the better expand Dear Bill, Martin, William, and other... thanks a lot ! diff --git a/book/2006-04.txt b/book/2006-04.txt index cfe4875..338bb69 100644 --- a/book/2006-04.txt +++ b/book/2006-04.txt @@ -15652,8 +15652,8 @@ this would be a two-pass process similar to the handling of \cite{} \start Date: 21 Apr 2006 08:25:22 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [ANN] Axiom Workshop 2006 -- Final Announcement Tim Daly writes: @@ -15857,8 +15857,8 @@ as that moves from the largest audience down to the smallest. \start Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:02:14 +0200 -To: list From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Hi, @@ -16217,8 +16217,8 @@ thinking to 1960s technology? \start Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:30:41 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Tim, @@ -16533,8 +16533,8 @@ ode \start Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:52:46 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: David Mentre +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Hello Tim, @@ -20086,8 +20086,8 @@ trouble for a while. Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:35:48 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes, Wilken Rivera -Cc: Douglas Troeger, Yegor Bryukhov, Gilbert Baumslag, Bernice Rogowitz Subject: RE: Doyen @ ASEE Mid-Atlantic Spring Conference 2006 +Cc: Douglas Troeger, Yegor Bryukhov, Gilbert Baumslag, Bernice Rogowitz On April 30, 2006 10:43 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: diff --git a/book/2006-05.txt b/book/2006-05.txt index 6db2bf2..00eef81 100644 --- a/book/2006-05.txt +++ b/book/2006-05.txt @@ -8475,8 +8475,8 @@ stone age :-) \start Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:17:02 +0200 -To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [Axiom-math] Are Fraction and Complex domains. Cc: Stephen Watt diff --git a/book/2006-07.txt b/book/2006-07.txt index cf57a35..59d544f 100644 --- a/book/2006-07.txt +++ b/book/2006-07.txt @@ -1629,8 +1629,8 @@ But I have a very bad memory. \start Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:50:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: ISSAC and CAFE trip report To: Tim Daly, Bill Page +Subject: Re: ISSAC and CAFE trip report Cc: Wilken Rivera --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8078,8 +8078,8 @@ sg00373.ht \start Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:48:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: sbcl and Axiom --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -12199,8 +12199,8 @@ StructuredText/Pamphlet page types. What do you think? \start Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:14:05 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: exports and constants Hello, @@ -12497,6 +12497,7 @@ Concerning provisos, this really affects only the domain EXPR, in my opinion. Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:09:15 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: [Axiom-developer] Re: Aldor translations Cc: Christian Aistleitner > Axiom's core is currently based on Lisp, and I personally think this is diff --git a/book/2006-08.txt b/book/2006-08.txt index 0a6f604..2663df7 100644 --- a/book/2006-08.txt +++ b/book/2006-08.txt @@ -1808,7 +1808,7 @@ of the page or something more inclusive? > That should be something like the "Online Source" that > currently exists. > But if you press "Online sources" currently it leads to -> =09 +> > /mathaction/axiom--test--1/ > > I know it is irrelevant, but the "test" in the name is @@ -2281,7 +2281,7 @@ up to date. > I love it, I think it is fair play) Do you mean expand the Related Sites box on the right sidebar? -=09 + > I want a "Description" two page long maximum with what is Axiom > what is special and great about it. @@ -2332,7 +2332,7 @@ way? > A good indicator for me is if I feel ok to print it. > And if I survive I will look for more advanced material. -=09 + > For the axiom user. We should not expect him to subscribe to > the mailing list. @@ -2358,13 +2358,13 @@ to specific web pages. Did you notice the word 'subscribe' in the top menu line? This allows people to automatically receive notices of new or changed web pages without having to subscribe to the email list. Do you think this is a useful feature? -=09 + > For active user/ contributors/ developer what is needed is a > collaboration tool, I have no answer for that. Axiom Wiki? Or do you mean that what we have now does work as a collaboration tool? -=09 + > Personally I find the wiki difficult to use, it seem a big mess > to me and I spend a lot of time looking for documents I saw > before and know should be somewhere. @@ -2410,7 +2410,7 @@ the same number as all other contents of the web site), these do tend to dominate any listing of contents. Perhaps we need a way to suppress these from the main contents list and only show them on a more detailed contents list? -=09 + > About people contribution : > I almost never find wiki useful. @@ -5796,8 +5796,8 @@ Then just forget about it and run build-setup.sh. \start Date: 02 Aug 2006 17:05:55 +0200 -To: Cliff Yapp From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: [build-improvements] Requests for discussion Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -5851,7 +5851,7 @@ these web site abusers. > up in Google and co. Yes you are right, this could happen if we let too much spam -accumulate.=09 +accumulate. The spam attach is still continuing at the rate of more than 60 attempts per minute. Uncaught spam arriving at this rate could @@ -8403,10 +8403,10 @@ I think it could be easily adapted for use as a set of easialy updated tutorial web pages on the wiki. \start +Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:40:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Frithjof Schulze Subject: RE: I would like to work -Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:40:22 -0400 Tim, @@ -10168,8 +10168,8 @@ Tested on i686-suse-linux and i686-redhat-linux. \start Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Translation of the interp to lisp To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Translation of the interp to lisp > > 2. I noticed a lot of implementation specific code having to do > > with things like (system:getenv $AXIOM) - is the plan to write some @@ -13169,8 +13169,8 @@ Name: svn:keywords Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:29:00 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Tom Boothby Subject: SAGE and Axiom +Cc: Tom Boothby This is a reply from the SAGE people. @@ -17442,14 +17442,14 @@ Bill Page. ------- On Thursday, August 10, 2006 5:17 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: -=09 + > Bill, ->=09 +> > I hope this was the right test to do. On my box this is the > output of passing file with three commands to maxima and > using the lisp file: -=09 -=09 + + Maxima 5.9.3.99rc2 http://maxima.sourceforge.net Using Lisp CLISP 2.39 (2006-07-16) @@ -17465,11 +17465,11 @@ bug_report() (\mathrm{\$\%i}3) \mbox{\tt\red(\mathrm{\$\%o3}) \black}625 (\mathrm{\$\%i}4) -=09 -=09 + + > On axiom-developer running the same command on my directory is: -=09 -=09 + + Maxima 5.9.3 http://maxima.sourceforge.net Using Lisp GNU Common Lisp (GCL) GCL 2.6.8 (aka GCL) @@ -17485,14 +17485,14 @@ bug_report() (\mathrm{\%i}3) \mbox{\tt\red(\mathrm{\%o3}) \black}625 (\mathrm{\%i}4) -=09 + > The "\$\" appears only on my installation of maxima. I do > not know if this matters. ->=09 +> > Please let me know, if not I will continue trying to look > for a regex that works. -=09 + \start Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:02:49 -0400 @@ -17503,7 +17503,7 @@ Subject: RE: Maxima on MathAction and Sage Alfredo, On Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:47 PM you wrote: -=09 + > Thanks Bill. I will do the testing like you suggested > me. I wonder if I could install the same version of > maxima you have on axiom-developer. @@ -18237,12 +18237,10 @@ On 8/11/06, Alfredo Portes wrote: > Regards, \start +Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:20:16 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: Maxima on ZWiki -Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:20:16 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Alfredo, @@ -18274,19 +18272,11 @@ To clear the cache hold down the Shift key while you click 'Reload Current Page' in your browser. (I guess I should put that in the FAQ on the wiki, eh?) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:23:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom -Cc: list > I disagree with the idea that writing to /dev/null should be banned. @@ -18295,18 +18285,11 @@ order to build Axiom one must have a Unix-like environment. Not that I want to make the build process more complicated, but I am just curious how difficult it would be to build Axiom without mingw or cygwin. -Ralf - - - - \start +Date: 12 Aug 2006 15:25:52 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Aug 2006 15:25:52 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -18323,33 +18306,20 @@ As is Autoconf? I don't think it is an issue. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 Aug 2006 16:17:39 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Old Lisp - -Hi, - Part of planning to clean up a bit the lsp/ directory, I'm removing old GCL bits. Old GCL here means anything prior to GCL-2.6.7. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:04:25 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Old Lisp -Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:04:25 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On August 12, 2006 10:18 AM Gabriel Dos Reis > @@ -18366,19 +18336,10 @@ just because they might be a little hard to find. I continue to be very impressed and pleased by your work on the new Silver build_improvements branch. It cheers me up immensely. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:57:37 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:57:37 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: Maxima on DoyenCD On August 12, 2006 2:44 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -18458,18 +18419,10 @@ See for example: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxMaxima -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:29:07 -0700 - <20060803062648.GD2765@mcelrath.org> +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: heads-up, code updates Greetings all. @@ -18512,15 +18465,11 @@ switch to. If not, well nothing lost. Comments welcome - Simon - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 02:56:28 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Old Lisp -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2006 02:56:28 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -18554,17 +18503,11 @@ GCL upstream. Thank you very much for the kind words. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: Old Lisp -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:10:06 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Old Lisp Le dimanche 13 ao=FBt 2006 =E0 02:56 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : > Bill Page writes: @@ -18582,19 +18525,11 @@ ng OK, so no need to reorganise the Makefile.pamphlet, cool :-) -Greg - - - - - \start +Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:08:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Old Lisp -Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:08:22 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On August 12, 2006 8:56 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -18620,19 +18555,11 @@ from an unmodified standard distribution of GCL. There is no reason that I can think of way this should not become the standard way of building Axiom from GCL on all platforms (including Windows). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 04:34:22 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Old Lisp -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2006 04:34:22 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -18683,17 +18610,11 @@ For GCL-2.6.8pre we have four patches: Can you check with Camm that they are indeed not needed anymore? I'm sorry, I don't fully understand the issues they are trying to address. --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:21:37 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Old Lisp -Cc: list Bill Page wrote: > On August 12, 2006 8:56 PM Gaby wrote: @@ -18723,14 +18644,10 @@ probably never will, but SBCL has a good chance. 3. If you have GCL installed, does Axiom still build its own copy, or does it know about the installed version? - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:55:32 -0700 - +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: heads-up, code updates Simon Michael wrote: @@ -18749,16 +18666,11 @@ be run). All: I learned about and played with a lot of cool stuff today. Thanks for all this great work! - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 16:23:34 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Old Lisp - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2006 16:23:34 +0200 -Cc: list Ed Borasky writes: @@ -18774,17 +18686,11 @@ according to the documentation. I'm working on a patch that have Axiom autodetect GCL and use it. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:59:18 -0400 From: Cliff Yapp To: list Subject: Re: Old Lisp -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:59:18 -0400 - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> - charset="iso-8859-1" On Sunday 13 August 2006 3:21 am, Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -18811,20 +18717,10 @@ These are the to-do lists I am aware of for the sbcl port: http://www.dridus.com/~nyef/TODO.Win32 http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~csr21/TODO.win32 -Cheers, -CY - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - <44DC4BDD.7020809@hemmecke.de> - - <44DCFBA9.6050902@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:09:06 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -18859,21 +18755,11 @@ package fancyvrb amazing, flexible, and happen to prefer it over other alternatives I've tried. Given the sort of things it does, I thought it might have faced similar issues, but again I'm not a LaTeX expert. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:14:51 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: [build-improvements] Requests for discussion - <44CFC93B.1020007@hemmecke.de> - - <44D081F9.9070201@hemmecke.de> - - <44D0A2A2.90803@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:14:51 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -18890,11 +18776,6 @@ Ralf -- modify configure.ac.pamphlet or Makefile.pamphlet, the top level Makefile will regenerate configure, Makefile.in, and Makefile as appropriate. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -18945,24 +18826,11 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 Has anybody seen anything like this before? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:44:07 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp, Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Old Lisp - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> - <200608131059.18993.Cliff Yapp> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:44:07 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -18992,20 +18860,11 @@ What concerns speed, I think this depends very much on the application. I don't think it's fair to say that gcl is faster than clisp. This is very likely an oversimplification. -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:46:54 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Old Lisp - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> - <200608131059.18993.Cliff Yapp> - <9q1wrkhc8o.fsf@login.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Aug 2006 17:46:54 +0200 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -19017,18 +18876,11 @@ OpenMCL - OpenMCL is a Common Lisp implementation (for the Mac) -Martin - - - - \start -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom - lately? -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Cliff Yapp Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:38:44 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom lately? Le dimanche 13 ao=FBt 2006 =E0 08:22 -0700, C Y a =E9crit : [...] @@ -19048,36 +18900,11 @@ $(MID)/as/attrib.as:: $(INT)/algebra/ATTREG.spad You can probably "touch" src/aldor/as/attrib.as.head as well. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-04/msg00285.html - -Greg - - - -> Cheers, -> CY -> -> __________________________________________________ -> Do You Yahoo!? -> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -> http://mail.yahoo.com -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:45:18 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom - lately? -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom lately? C Y wrote: > I tried the binary and found it didn't work on Gentoo, so it was back @@ -19177,21 +19004,11 @@ By the way, Axiom is actually in Portage (sci-mathematics/axiom) but it's the September 2005 tarball. I should bug the Gentoo Science folks about putting up a newer tarball, like the most recent Golden. - - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom - lately? -To: "M. Edward \(Ed\) Borasky" Ed Borasky -Cc: list - - +To: Ed Borasky +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom lately? --- Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -19210,23 +19027,11 @@ build-improvements work also functions on gentoo - very smooth! Probably a good idea. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom - lately? -To: Vanuxem "Grégory" Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list +To: regory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom lately? Hmm - I just tried to update AldorForAxiom with this info, and it won't let me. My preferences are set up - guess I need to go re-read the @@ -19256,43 +19061,12 @@ CY > You can probably "touch" src/aldor/as/attrib.as.head as well. See > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-04/msg00285.html -> -> -> Greg -> -> -> -> > Cheers, -> > CY -> > -> > __________________________________________________ -> > Do You Yahoo!? -> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -> > http://mail.yahoo.com -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom - lately? To: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiom lately? Bill, sorry for being such a dork - I'm looking at AldorForAxiom, and I don't quite see why it's not letting me save the change. It looks like @@ -19335,58 +19109,12 @@ CY > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-04/msg00285.html -> > -> > -> > Greg -> > -> > -> > -> > > Cheers, -> > > CY -> > > -> > > __________________________________________________ -> > > Do You Yahoo!? -> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -> > > http://mail.yahoo.com -> > > -> > > -> > > _______________________________________________ -> > > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > > list -> > > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > > -> > -> > -> -> -> __________________________________________________ -> Do You Yahoo!? -> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -> http://mail.yahoo.com -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:13:04 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Has anybody attempted to build - Aldor+Axiomlately? -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:13:04 -0400 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiomlately? On August 13, 2006 4:51 PM C Y wrote: > @@ -19477,26 +19205,12 @@ Bill Page. > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-04/msg0 > 0285.html -> > > -> > > -> > > Greg -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > > > Cheers, -> > > > CY - - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:31:57 -0700 - <00de01c6bf1d$4fc587a0$6900a8c0@asus> -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build - Aldor+Axiomlately? +From: Simon Michael +To: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiomlately? Bill - banning http:// on a wiki ? This makes me cringe.. what good is it if legitimate users can't add links. @@ -19506,16 +19220,11 @@ a username configured in preferences, similar to my edits_need_username property. Are you getting significant spam even with this turned on ? They are configuring a username cookie ? - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Has anybody attempted to build - Aldor+Axiomlately? To: Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiomlately? --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -19560,23 +19269,11 @@ kind of bot which inspects changes and disallows the obvious spam, although that's based on a comment I saw and I don't know much about it. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:10:44 -0700 - -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build - Aldor+Axiomlately? +From: Simon Michael +To: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiomlately? Also, current Zwiki is smarter about this - it tries not to count links that were in the page already. @@ -19590,25 +19287,11 @@ that were in the page already. Most of these anti-spam refinements have been added in the last year, as it became a problem. - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:15:42 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Simon Michael -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to build - Aldor+Axiomlately? - <00de01c6bf1d$4fc587a0$6900a8c0@asus> - - <20060813205122.21043.qmail@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - <00de01c6bf1d$4fc587a0$6900a8c0@asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list - - ---OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to build Aldor+Axiomlately? I'm gonna vote with Simon here...I know spam is a problem but this is overkill. Banning http will cause a lot of problems for new users, @@ -19636,37 +19319,11 @@ Simon Michael [Simon Michael] wrote: > Most of these anti-spam refinements have been added in the last year, as it > became a problem. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Only after you've tried to figure something out for yourself and - failed are you ready to absorb "the answer." - ---OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFE36SOjwioWRGe9K0RAkZvAKCrZtS9YvLTZjEvHexw+4w3NJNSLgCg5pRZ -EcMMaFz0Quidcz2RHDKNdYw= -=VmHl ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- - - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:29:47 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Simon Michael -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:29:47 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Simon, +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? On August 13, 2006 5:32 PM you wrote: > @@ -19710,19 +19367,11 @@ to give it a test run. Then I will try to move the current production contents into the test site. I will let you know how it goes and then make it available for everyone to test. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:59:42 -0700 -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? +From: Simon Michael +To: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? Bill Page wrote: > I will setup a test @@ -19740,20 +19389,11 @@ I should say: clearly there's times when you need to lock down temporarily to respond to an attack, I'm referring more to the long-term. Your use of remotewikilinks is clever, but too much hassle for users I think. - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:12:08 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Issues with documentation revisions To: Simon Michael -Message-id: <44DFBFD8.10860A72@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - - <44D19060.1050005@joyful.com> <20060803062648.GD2765@mcelrath.org> - -Cc: list +Subject: Issues with documentation revisions In the thread: Re: heads-up, code updates @@ -19775,24 +19415,12 @@ editorially revised as well. For details see NewAutodocPamphlet by following the link above or read the pdf file from http://zwiki.org/NewAutodocPamphlet -William --- -William Sit -Department of Mathematics..Email: William Sit -City College of New York................Tel: 212-650-5179 -New York, NY 10031, USA.................Fax: 212-862-0004 -Home page: .......http://scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~wyscc/ - - - \start -To: list Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:46:57 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze +To: list Subject: Problem with log in wiki. -Hi, - I thing there is a problem with the log line when editing a file in the wiki. When the statement is too long it is first cut off and printed appropriate and nice. Only after the next edit a rest of the first @@ -19812,18 +19440,11 @@ functions. Unfortunately, I won't be able to read emails in the next week so I won't be able to react to any answers. Many thanks in advance. -Frithjof - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:41:01 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: pamphlet problems -Cc: list sigh. @@ -19841,35 +19462,21 @@ revisit these decisions. agree or disagree? -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:45:47 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Aug 2006 00:53:31 +0200) Subject: Re: pamphlet problems -Cc: list The token.pamphlet file contained a mistake. It should generate token.h, not token.c. hyper.pamphlet does a #include for token.h. This is likely a source of errors in the hyperdoc program. I'll fix it. -t - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Bob McElrath'" , - Simon Michael -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:56:19 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Bob McElrath, Simon Michael +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? On August 13, 2006 6:16 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > @@ -19918,20 +19525,11 @@ the Portal without loosing any functionality. What do you think? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 03:56:22 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: pamphlet problems - <200608140141.k7E1f1w11649@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 03:56:22 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -19960,24 +19558,12 @@ experience gained from following earlier directions. ] I'm looking forward to the long threads we are going to have :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:07:10 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? - Simon Michael, list - <00fb01c6bf44$dd19e160$6900a8c0@asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list, Simon Michael - - ---opJtzjQTFsWo+cga +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > Mostly I would conclude from this excersize that simply building @@ -20007,35 +19593,11 @@ Plone interface is just fine. But, plone is dog slow. I'm not sure how axiom-developer is set up, but you'll want a caching proxy. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Only after you've tried to figure something out for yourself and - failed are you ready to absorb "the answer." - ---opJtzjQTFsWo+cga - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFE39rOjwioWRGe9K0RAluMAKCwUlk0p5XEcM3neW7oCYsBkcb8NQCeO4Dx -4cE9wkhuc7C60ujayCC8rKA= -=jz4V ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:04:31 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:01:34 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D844DE.4010602@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf, @@ -20044,17 +19606,12 @@ The books live in the arch archive branch see http://arch.axiom-developer.org -t - - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:22:36 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: Issues with documentation revisions -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:22:36 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Cc: Simon Michael On August 13, 2006 8:12 PM William Sit wrote: > @@ -20099,21 +19656,12 @@ http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/front.html I believe that many of the design features of Leo would be beneficial to the Axiom project. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Bob McElrath'" -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:35:14 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Simon Michael +From: Bill Page +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael On August 13, 2006 10:07 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... @@ -20164,21 +19712,11 @@ skins. Axiom-developer uses both an Apache frontend and external cache provided by the host environment. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:38:55 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:11:06 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > I strongly believe that axiom--main--1 should be a "testing" branch and > things from their should only enter the silver/trunk if they do not @@ -20210,19 +19748,11 @@ If there is going to be an naming convention in svn it should probably NOT have an axiom--main--1 in the tree as this will only cause confusion. -t - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:42:52 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:11:06 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > Should we limit commits to only one file at a time? > @@ -20242,18 +19772,11 @@ this change might add a feature and be completely independent of every other change even though it changes multiple files. Limiting commits to one file at a time makes SVN equivalent to CVS. -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:45:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:11:06 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > Another alternative that I have been thinking about is only > > supporting a "diff and patch" interface for the online wiki version @@ -20267,17 +19790,11 @@ do read them and hand-apply the changes is a part of my twisted personality. in general though, diff and patch are used virtually everywhere including source code control systems. -t - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 04:58:29 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: pamphlet problems - <200608140145.k7E1jlU11659@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 04:58:29 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -20288,18 +19805,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: Please, remember to post the patches when you apply them to then gold branch. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:54:09 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:11:06 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > >> I don't like very much that there is a separate (completely > >> different looking branch book--main--1). @@ -20336,17 +19846,12 @@ now in the source tree as src/doc/bookvol1.pamphlet. Volume 1 is the axiom tutorial, which has now been published. I'm working on Volume 2. -t - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 05:02:50 +0200 -Cc: list, Simon Michael +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael Bill Page writes: @@ -20366,17 +19871,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Can we just have the documentations as part of the SVN repository? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:10:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: pamphlet problems -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:10:22 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On August 13, 2006 9:41 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -20409,21 +19908,11 @@ Add a comment explaining the intent and the page name and then click on the blue ? to create the new page. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:09:06 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:11:06 +0200) Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > In fact I think we should drop the entire arch (tla) archive. > @@ -20451,18 +19940,12 @@ In general, it is very difficult to coordinate multiple developers working in parallel using their own working methods. It is unlikely that we will all use the same techniques. -t - - - \start +Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:17:14 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? -Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:17:14 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael On August 13, 2006 11:03 PM Gaby wrote: > @@ -20490,20 +19973,11 @@ the available documentation for Axiom in SVN already, don't we? What does this have to do with the Axiom Wiki? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:32:09 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Building Axiom with unmodified noweb -Cc: list > > The file src/algebra/Lattice.pamphlet is just 1.7 MB and about > > 45,000 lines. My emacs dies when it automatically tries to @@ -20554,16 +20028,10 @@ the next generation is now required to know Perl to maintain axiom. The problem isn't that I don't understand the complex methods. The problem is that I am optimizing toward simplicity. - -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:39:38 -0400 From: Tim Daly -To: dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: configure on MAC/FreeBSD Gaby, @@ -20572,19 +20040,12 @@ I'd suggest testing your configure scripts on both the MAC and FreeBSD, both of which have given me a great deal of grief. If you can get configure to work on those systems it will prove very worthwhile. -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:55:18 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted - tobuildAldor+Axiomlately? To: Bill Page -Message-id: <44E00236.E0B47752@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted tobuildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael Bill Page wrote: > @@ -20642,21 +20103,12 @@ or contribution). > That sounds great. -William - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:11:46 -0400 From: William Sit -To: list, Bill Page -Message-id: <44E00612.78CF4601@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: a link to sandbox/edit -Hi Bill: - May I suggest putting a link sandox, which will open up a new SandBox page with edit, on the top left of every Wiki page, right between preferences and help? The page can be named SandBoxyyy where yyy is the @@ -20670,22 +20122,12 @@ I find the set up at the bottom of Zwiki.org quite easy to use. (It would be even better if it were on the top of a page rather than at the bottom, which may be missed unless one scrolls all the way down.) -Thanks, - -William - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:04:56 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 11 Aug 2006 10:23:46 -0400) - <54ac6b4ah9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, list Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) - -Camm, +Cc: Robert Boyer > I had to make the following modifications to 20050901 to work with the > latest 2.6.8pre: @@ -20693,18 +20135,11 @@ Camm, Axiom has had several releases since 20050901. What do we need to do to bring it up to date? -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:12:36 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:23:04 +0200) Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > I disagree with the idea that writing to /dev/null should be banned. > @@ -20718,18 +20153,12 @@ Axiom does not write outside of it's directory subtree for any reason. Following this philosophy it cannot write to /dev/null, which may not even exist on certain platforms such as windows. -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Issues with documentation revisions To: Bill Page, William Sit -Cc: list, Simon Michael - ---- Bill Page wrote: +Subject: RE: Issues with documentation revisions +Cc: Simon Michael > There is at least one better tool than noweb: Leo > @@ -20767,23 +20196,11 @@ based on the focus of interest at the time of the query. Bill, is that a reasonable use case for Leo+Axiom? You are far more fluent with it than I am. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:22:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ed Borasky Subject: Re: Old Lisp - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> -Cc: list > 1. As far as I know, GCL and CLISP are the only open source Lisps that > run on Windows. CMUCL for sure doesn't and SBCL may not either. CMUCL @@ -20800,19 +20217,11 @@ GCL is compiled code. CLISP is a byte-coded interpreted lisp. Yes, Axiom builds and uses GCL. It is not yet ansi lisp. -t - - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:11:24 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Old Lisp - <44DED301.6020506@cesmail.net> - <200608140522.k7E5MTR11876@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list root wrote: >> 1. As far as I know, GCL and CLISP are the only open source Lisps that @@ -20841,19 +20250,12 @@ IIRC clisp is what's enabled under CygWin. My existing GCL is compiled with ANSI support, since Maxima requires that. Will Axiom work with a GCL (2.6.7 IIRC) with ANSI support enabled? - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:12:33 -0400 From: William Sit To: Bill Page, list -Message-id: <44E01451.623EAA7E@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: Subject: date of pamphlet documents -Hi Bill: - When a pamphlet file is rendered, the date of the pdf file is always \today. That seems to be misleading, as many of the source files have not been updated for ages. Would it be possible to post the date of the @@ -20872,10 +20274,6 @@ left to the author? Just minor suggestions. Not a high priority if there is no easy solution. -William - - - \start Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:28:53 -0700 From: Ed Borasky @@ -20939,16 +20337,11 @@ now, though, Leo is just an outliner of ASCII text files and not a you have any pointers on how to use it without having to learn Python, I'm all ears. :) - - - \start -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:27:00 -0700 - <44E00236.E0B47752@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted - tobuildAldor+Axiomlately? +From: Simon Michael +To: list +Subject: Re: Has anybody attempted tobuildAldor+Axiomlately? >> So the solution to the spam problem that I like most right now is >> to embed the existing Axiom Wiki site inside Plone and use the @@ -20958,19 +20351,12 @@ I think this is definitely worth a try. If you're being targetted by persistent spammers I too think that requiring a one-time registration for edits is the way to go. - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:35:12 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: Issues with documentation revisions To: Bill Page -Message-id: <44E027B0.55434AA@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list, Simon Michael - -Bill: +Subject: Re: Issues with documentation revisions +Cc: Simon Michael I updated http://Zwiki.org/NewAutodocPamphlet to use hyperref package and everything works fine there. @@ -21004,19 +20390,14 @@ Many thanks, William - PS: I'll be in Vancouver, Canada from Aug 15 to 21. So no need to fix this immediately. - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:29:05 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: pamphlet problems - <200608140141.k7E1f1w11649@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Why don't people use http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FAQ for that? Who would look for a file called PROCON? @@ -21039,18 +20420,13 @@ On 08/14/2006 03:41 AM, root wrote: > revisit these decisions. > > agree or disagree? -> -> t - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:57:45 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit Subject: Re: Issues with documentation revisions - <44DFBFD8.10860A72@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Cc: Simon Michael http://zwiki.org/NewAutodocPamphlet @@ -21070,19 +20446,11 @@ show the usage, but I must say, if the output is not too long, it is also illustrative to include it in the Usage section. (That should even be a kind of simple unit test.) -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:04:47 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> - <200608140238.k7E2cte11725@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On 08/14/2006 04:38 AM, root wrote: >> I strongly believe that axiom--main--1 should be a "testing" branch and @@ -21099,16 +20467,10 @@ I spoke about http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/FrontPage and of course I would not turn the Gold branch axiom--main--1 into a testing one. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:16:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb > The 'document' script is intended to centralize all of the information @@ -21124,15 +20486,10 @@ But that script must certainly be improved. 3) It ALWAYS applies latex twice where sometimes 1 application would be enough and sometimes one needs 3 or 4 iterations. -Ralf - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:42:40 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: FW: [SAGEdev] SAGE Days 2: First Announcement On August 14, 2006 4:55 AM William Stein wrote: @@ -21147,28 +20504,12 @@ mathematics software available: http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/days2/ --- -William Stein -Associate Professor of Mathematics -University of Washington - -_______________________________________________ -sage-devel mailing list -sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net -https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sage-devel - - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:50:05 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit Subject: RE: Issues with documentation revisions -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:50:05 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Cc: Simon Michael On August 14, 2006 3:35 AM William Sit wrote: > @@ -21240,22 +20581,10 @@ I will correct this bug in the near future. > this immediately. > -Have a good trip! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:58:21 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:58:21 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: date of pamphlet documents On August 14, 2006 2:13 AM William Sit wrote: @@ -21296,23 +20625,11 @@ I think it should be left to the author. > solution. > -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:21:21 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> - <200608140245.k7E2jT411740@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:21:21 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -21329,18 +20646,11 @@ Maybe. The fact that we have so many diff options (in particular -p) is evidence that it is intended to be read by humans, albeit with particular skill set. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:23:24 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: patches - <44D89B7A.5040407@hemmecke.de> - <200608140309.k7E396o11768@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:23:24 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -21353,17 +20663,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: That is true. However, to make sure we don't end up in a bizarre situation, we must have a live mainline source. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:29:01 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom with unmodified noweb - <200608140332.k7E3W9D11779@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:29:01 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -21380,19 +20684,10 @@ problem is that similar information are not properly abstracted over and particular information of interested are deeply hidden in a sea of noise. Fortunately, we're working to improve thge situation. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:29:51 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -21407,18 +20702,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: I would like to see the document script either go away or deeply improved. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:33:31 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> - <200608140512.k7E5Ca711868@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:33:31 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -21446,17 +20734,12 @@ exempted from the general rule. Which "flavour" of windows that can built Axiom (with current build system) and does not have /dev/null? --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:34:28 +0200 -Cc: list, Simon Michael +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael Bill Page writes: @@ -21485,15 +20768,10 @@ Bill Page writes: The one we currently have as wiki. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:36:53 +0200 -Cc: list, dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: configure on MAC/FreeBSD Tim Daly writes: @@ -21507,20 +20785,11 @@ call for testing and feedback. If you have problems, please send me the logs so that I can look into the problems. Otherwise, I cannot do anything. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:08:07 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 14 Aug 2006 17:33:31 +0200) Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> - <200608140512.k7E5Ca711868@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > > I disagree with the idea that writing to /dev/null should be banned. > | > @@ -21589,18 +20858,12 @@ issue as soon as we attempt a native Windows port. The current system does not have that problem. Why introduce it? And under what principle? I don't see why we 'must' do anything special. -t - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:34:00 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:34:00 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael On August 14, 2006 11:34 AM Gaby wrote: @@ -21624,20 +20887,11 @@ dynamic content, e.g. the results of Axiom calculations, and the status of issue reports etc. So I think the answer to your question is: No. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:41:02 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: configure on MAC/FreeBSD -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:41:02 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net On August 14, 2006 11:37 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -21703,20 +20957,12 @@ IBM Power5 Architecture: Anyone who is motivated to try this can be registered as an Axiom developer to try the Axiom builds on these systems. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:55:22 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted - to buildAldor+Axiomlately? -Cc: list, Simon Michael +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael >> | > Can we just have the documentations as part of the SVN >> | > repository? @@ -21736,18 +20982,11 @@ file changes is not very convenient. So, I guess, the answer is: "Currently, no. Until somebody improves the situation." -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:58:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list > It's not a question of theology or flavors (or flavours). The issue > again comes back to basic, easily stated, easily learned, universally @@ -21769,16 +21008,10 @@ Thank you, Tim, for sharing these principles with the rest of the axiom developers. I did not know all of them. Where are they written down, except now hidden in the mailing archive under a strange "Subject"??? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:05:29 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb > | > The 'document' script is intended to centralize all of the information @@ -21802,56 +21035,29 @@ what. I would rather like to have a document that describes the build. But I guess that document consists of several Makefiles and a description of their relations. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:00:08 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:58:12 +0200) Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> - <44E0B9B4.6030505@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list The SRC/INT/OBJ/MNT principles are in README (near line 416) The Makefile principles are in Makefile.pamphlet, first paragraph -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:02:10 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:58:12 +0200) Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> - <44E0B9B4.6030505@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list The Makefile principles are also in Makefile.pamphlet, near line 157. The restriction about not writing outside the source tree is on line 202. -t - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:17:25 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> - <200608140512.k7E5Ca711868@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:17:25 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -21916,21 +21122,12 @@ theoretical problems that has no practical foundation. As a data point, there are plenty of software Autoconfiscated that build and runs perfectly on windows. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:23:02 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? - boundary="----=_Part_15014_1836260.1155579782932" - <44E0B90A.5050509@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Simon Michael - -------=_Part_15014_1836260.1155579782932 +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael > I can understand Gaby. For working offline it would be good to have the > wiki locally and have it updated like any SCM repository. But it seems @@ -21939,51 +21136,25 @@ Cc: list, Simon Michael > enough. > - The installation of Zope -> ZWiki -> LatexWiki -> Mathaction is has not -been - that difficult, at least in the systems I have tried them (Fedora, -Ubuntu, Gentoo). - With the work done by Bill, and the information online I would dare to -say that - has become "trivial". For Doyen, a single script does the whole -installation. Of - course, this is not bullet proof for every system. A virtual machine can -be also a - solution. + The installation of Zope -> ZWiki -> LatexWiki -> Mathaction is has +not been that difficult, at least in the systems I have tried them +(Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo). With the work done by Bill, and the +information online I would dare to say that has become "trivial". For +Doyen, a single script does the whole installation. Of course, this is +not bullet proof for every system. A virtual machine can be also a +solution. And always downloading a >1MB Zope database if just a single > file changes is not very convenient. > - I wonder if one could have the Zope database on svn and then do an update -to - keep with the latest changes. - - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_15014_1836260.1155579782932 - -
I can understand Gaby. For working offline it would be good to have the
wiki locally and have it updated like any SCM repository. But it seems -
that cannot be easily achieved, because at least one needs to set up
Zope, Zwiki, latexwiki, mathaction on the local computer. That is hard enough.

  The installation of Zope -> ZWiki -> LatexWiki -> Mathaction is has not been -
   that difficult, at least in the systems I have tried them (Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo).
   With the work done by Bill, and the information online I would dare to say that
   has become "trivial".  For Doyen, a single script does the whole installation. Of -
   course, this is not bullet proof for every system. A virtual machine can be also a
   solution.

- And always downloading a >1MB Zope database if just a single
file changes is not very convenient.

   I wonder if one could have the Zope database on svn and then do an update to
   keep with the latest changes. -

   Regards,

   Jose Alfredo Perez
- -------=_Part_15014_1836260.1155579782932-- - - + I wonder if one could have the Zope database on svn and then do an +update to keep with the latest changes. \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:15:42 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:05:29 +0200) - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb > Oh, another person who does not like "document" very much... @@ -22005,17 +21176,11 @@ it's unlikely that you would use it yet. That's the purpose of book volume 4, the developer's guide. Understand the process, write it as a chapter, and add it to the guide. -t - - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:31:50 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: configure on MAC/FreeBSD -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:31:50 +0200 -Cc: list, dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net Bill Page writes: @@ -22080,26 +21245,12 @@ For concretness, here is a initial list of primary platforms: I have a private script for automatically building Axiom; do you think there is a was to set up a cron job on those systems? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:32:36 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Alfredo Portes -Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to - buildAldor+Axiomlately? - Ralf Hemmecke, list, - Simon Michael - <44E0B90A.5050509@hemmecke.de> - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list, Simon Michael - - ---hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 +Subject: re: Has anybody attempted to buildAldor+Axiomlately? +Cc: Simon Michael Alfredo Portes [Alfredo Portes] wrote: > >I can understand Gaby. For working offline it would be good to have the @@ -22128,38 +21279,10 @@ The entire zope database!?!? One big 1GB file? Each minor ZODB change would be a single replacement of the ~1GB ZODB. -- Which is why FileSystemSite is probably required if you want to use SCM. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Only after you've tried to figure something out for yourself and - failed are you ready to absorb "the answer." - ---hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFE4MHEjwioWRGe9K0RAo+qAKC/nS6m3TsoQhNz2ffV9TIDTXq8sgCfTGT2 -HYo6ukVnvAp4q9vzdnyIrXk= -=GJSc ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50-- - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:36:27 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -22187,22 +21310,11 @@ Most of the functionalities offered by document are superceded in my work. So, unless, it mutates and offers me something I need and I don't have now, it must be retired. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:33:37 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 14 Aug 2006 20:17:25 +0200) Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> - <200608140512.k7E5Ca711868@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list ....[snip].... @@ -22283,18 +21395,11 @@ why change it? did something break? Father O'Daly. Chief Cleric and Wearer of Strange Hats. - - - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:56:14 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: configure on MAC/FreeBSD - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:56:14 +0200 -Cc: list, dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22305,25 +21410,10 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: I found answer to my question. It is "yes". -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:50:25 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 14 Aug 2006 20:36:27 +0200) - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb > It stands in my way for having a more structured build system. @@ -22365,22 +21455,11 @@ lost, perhaps in limbo, Tim The Monty Python Wizard - - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 21:02:26 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: /dev/null, noweb and Axiom - <44DDBA18.3050203@hemmecke.de> - <200608140512.k7E5Ca711868@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141708.k7EH87x12525@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141833.k7EIXbH12606@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 21:02:26 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -22422,21 +21501,12 @@ it does not work and it is mostly pointless. :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:04:29 -0400 From: William Sit To: Bill Page -Message-id: <44E0C93D.FCE01ED3@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list Subject: Re: date of pamphlet documents - - Bill Page wrote: > > On August 14, 2006 2:13 AM William Sit wrote: @@ -22510,21 +21580,11 @@ I think I will remove NewAutodocPamphlet from the Zwiki site (so I don't have to maintain two versions, the zwiki version is already out of date :-). I'll leave a pointer there to SandBox. What do you think? -William - - - \start -To: William Sit -Subject: Revision history (was: re: date of pamphlet - documents) - <44E0C93D.FCE01ED3@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: David Mentre Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:14:29 +0200 - "Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:04:29 -0400") -Cc: list - -Hello, +From: David Mentre +To: William Sit +Subject: Revision history (was: re: date of pamphlet documents) As Bill, I think hard-coded modification date is preferable, as it allows minor modification (e.g. fixing typo). Of course, it depends on @@ -22540,26 +21600,10 @@ William Sit writes: Doesn't that revision history belong to the changesets of the Source Code Management system, whichever it is? -Yours, -david --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - - <200608141850.k7EIoPB12714@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 21:14:40 +0200 -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb Tim Daly writes: @@ -22653,25 +21697,10 @@ BTW, document has been modified (on the build-improvments branch) to the point where it can use either system supplied noweb or noweb from aXiom. And document is also generated by configure. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:47:18 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 14 Aug 2006 21:14:40 +0200) - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - - <200608141850.k7EIoPB12714@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb > As you can see, document insists on LaTeXing a file, which, as I said, @@ -22707,26 +21736,10 @@ pamphlet files, as unnecessary. Brother Tim Keeper of the Flame and secret pyromaniac. - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - - <200608141850.k7EIoPB12714@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141947.k7EJlIK12752@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Aug 2006 22:21:09 +0200 -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb Tim Daly writes: @@ -22791,30 +21804,11 @@ important fact that at various stages of development not all two aspects need to be done simulatenously at the same time. However, they must be done before modification happens in the repositories. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:54:26 +0200 +From: David Mentre To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - - <200608141850.k7EIoPB12714@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141947.k7EJlIK12752@localhost.localdomain> - -From: David Mentre -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:54:26 +0200 - Reis's message of "14 Aug 2006 22:21:09 +0200") -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org - -Hello, Ok, so why not modifiying 'document' itself, like in: @@ -22875,17 +21869,11 @@ exit 0 --end document-- Shell Scribe David --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:04:37 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: David Mentre - <87y7trgmei.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> -Cc: list Subject: Re: Revision history > As Bill, I think hard-coded modification date is preferable, as it @@ -22912,28 +21900,11 @@ I am also wondering why we would use some SCM and then hardcode \creationdate, etc. You can use, for example, "svn log FILENAME" and get all the wonderful history. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 14 Aug 2006 23:08:10 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Re: noweb - <200608030112.k731CSF03103@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608140341.k7E3fof11795@localhost.localdomain> - <44E03F72.2090907@hemmecke.de> - - <44E0BB69.9080600@hemmecke.de> - - <200608141850.k7EIoPB12714@localhost.localdomain> - - <200608141947.k7EJlIK12752@localhost.localdomain> - - <87psf3ghrx.fsf@linux-france.org> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Aug 2006 23:08:10 +0200 -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org David Mentre writes: @@ -22958,22 +21929,12 @@ I would like to see: Those are what I currently use; you're welcome to expand and submit as a patch and pray Father Tim accepts it :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:32:08 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: Hypertex and util.ht - ---=-Nlcc/lBHYJJp6Z/AD8ck - -Hello, - - Hypertex does not work for me with the last version of axiom (gold) checked out from cvs at Savannah. I have just a white window with two buttons (exit and help) that do not work. Here is the output: @@ -23096,16 +22057,11 @@ Greg % Following macros should be phased out in favor of ones above: ---=-Nlcc/lBHYJJp6Z/AD8ck-- - - - - \start -Subject: Re: Hypertex and util.ht -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:04:09 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Re: Hypertex and util.ht Le lundi 14 ao=FBt 2006 =E0 23:32 +0200, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : > Hello, @@ -23118,25 +22074,12 @@ Le lundi 14 ao=FBt 2006 =E0 23:32 +0200, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : I forgot to say that I do not use the "install" target of the makefile. I use axiom directly in its built tree. -Greg - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:12:07 -0400 From: William Sit To: Ralf Hemmecke -Message-id: <44E0F537.7FA9F953@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <44E0C93D.FCE01ED3@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87y7trgmei.fsf_-_@linux-france.org> <44E0E565.1000906@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Subject: Re: Revision history - - Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > > As Bill, I think hard-coded modification date is preferable, as it @@ -23195,16 +22138,10 @@ is quite seldom, and often I just keep working until the half-baked ideas got cooked and working, then I freeze and save it and proceed to explore other ideas. -William - - - \start +Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:50:16 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:50:16 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: date of pamphlet documents On August 14, 2006 3:04 PM William Sit wrote: @@ -23239,22 +22176,11 @@ did not show up on the zwiki.org version. I think it looks good. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:19:35 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Old Lisp -Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:19:35 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Gaby, On August 13, 2006 10:24 AM you wrote: > @@ -23282,22 +22208,11 @@ source distribution. Great! This should also make the Debian port a lot simpler. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:45:36 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: Old Lisp -Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:45:36 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Camm, When you have a moment could you please confirm that I am not leading Gaby astray here. :-) @@ -23380,19 +22295,11 @@ the appropriate makefile.pamphlet. > address. > -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 15 Aug 2006 08:16:29 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Old Lisp -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Aug 2006 08:16:29 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -23420,15 +22327,10 @@ I was just repeating what the pamphlet file says :-) I have requested access to SF compile farm. I hope to be in position to test tomorrow, but we should definitely have some *BSD guys shime it. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: axiom-dev , bill.page@synthesis.anikast.ca -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Aug 2006 15:39:38 +0200 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: list Subject: AldorForAxiom Dear all, @@ -23447,20 +22349,11 @@ the calculations done in Aldor do not work anymore, axiom says, for example, Currently, 112 pages are allocated. Use ALLOCATE to expand the space. -??? - -Martin - - - - \start +Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:57:27 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey Subject: RE: AldorForAxiom -Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:57:27 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' , bill.page@synthesis.anikast.ca On August 15, 2006 9:40 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -23504,24 +22397,12 @@ When I get a chance I plan to complete the build Axiom Silver build improvements branch with these changes and install that on MathAction. That should solve the problems and also more help to test Silver. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <54ac6b4ah9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200608140504.k7E54uM11854@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 15 Aug 2006 18:18:36 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) - -Greetings! +Cc: Robert Boyer --- axiom-20050901.orig/src/interp/cfuns.lisp.pamphlet +++ axiom-20050901/src/interp/cfuns.lisp.pamphlet @@ -23576,24 +22457,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: > > Axiom has had several releases since 20050901. > What do we need to do to bring it up to date? -> -> t -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:53:06 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: building Silver Gaby, @@ -23619,19 +22487,11 @@ config.guess config.sub install-sh missing Any idea what is going wrong? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: building Silver Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:08:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - -Gaby, +Subject: RE: building Silver On Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:53 PM I wrote: > ... @@ -23661,17 +22521,11 @@ The ChangeLog says: But svn update wont give me the file. Maybe you forgot to add it? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 16 Aug 2006 03:40:14 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: building Silver -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Aug 2006 03:40:14 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -23708,18 +22562,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Yes, I did forgpt to add it. How embarrasing :-( Please try again and let me know. Sorry for that. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: building Silver Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:02:30 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - -Gaby, +Subject: RE: building Silver On Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:40 PM you wrote: @@ -23746,21 +22593,12 @@ No problem! My test build with Camm's patches is running now on axiom-developer. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:42:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, list Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) - -Camm, +Cc: Robert Boyer With your patch below applied to the current Silver version of Axiom with the modified gcl-2.6.8pre pulled from cvs, @@ -23873,48 +22711,22 @@ Bill Page. > > > > Axiom has had several releases since 20050901. > > What do we need to do to bring it up to date? -> > -> > t -> > -> > -> > -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire =09 -> Camm Maguire -> = -========================== -========================== -============ -> ============ -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> Baha'u'llah -> - - \start Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:55:04 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 15 Aug 2006 18:18:36 -0400) - <54ac6b4ah9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200608140504.k7E54uM11854@localhost.localdomain> - <54hd0dve0z.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, list Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer patches applied. testing restarted. --t - - \start Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:15:13 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Camm Maguire, - list Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer, Camm Maguire Tim, @@ -24042,23 +22854,12 @@ Bill Page. > > like. > > > > Please let me know how I can help. -> > -> > Regards, -> > Bill Page -> > - - \start -Subject: Re: Old Lisp +Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:11:27 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:11:27 +0200 - k7G5OCNQ004381 -Cc: list - -Hi, +Subject: Re: Old Lisp On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 08:16 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -24092,35 +22893,12 @@ to be in position Can you give me some instruction, where do get the respective sources etc (off-the-list) -Gernot - -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer --- -DI Gernot Hueber -Johannes-Kepler Universtit=E4t -Institut f=FCr Integrierte Schaltungen -Altenbergerstr. 69 -4040 Linz -Tel +43 732 2468 7120 -Fax +43 732 2468 7126 -Email hueber at riic.at - - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:48:48 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: William Stein +To: list Subject: Sage on MathAction +Cc: William Stein Axiom Developers and computer algebra enthusiasts! @@ -24141,21 +22919,11 @@ based needed only minor modifications to make direct use of the 'examples/latex_embed' code in the Sage distribution. Long live open source... :-) -Enjoy! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: Sage on MathAction Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:02:03 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - -Alfredo, +Subject: RE: Sage on MathAction It's all yours - it's open source. :) I will update the MathAction repositories later today after we get a little more testing done. @@ -24229,35 +22997,35 @@ ________________________________ Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:35 AM To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Sage on MathAction -=09 -=09 + + Bill, -=09 + I want !!! I want !!! :-) -=09 + Really nice work. MathAxiom just becomes better every week. -=09 + Do people in Sage considering including Axiom??? -=09 + Whenever LatexWiki gets updated with these changes please let me know or if you have plans of using the new version of ZWiki available. -=09 + Again, props on this incredible job, -=09 + Regards, -=09 -=09 + + On 8/16/06, Bill Page wrote: Axiom Developers and computer algebra enthusiasts! - =09 + I have a very preliminary demonstration of the integration of Sage with the MathAction wiki here: - =09 + http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxSageTest - =09 + I would like to encourage you to test this further. You will find that Sage is quite different than any other @@ -24265,7 +23033,7 @@ computer algebra system with which you might be familiar - truly a "new generation". - =09 + This approach to interfacing with Sage is based directly on the work of Gonzalo Tornaria and Joe Wetherell et al. @@ -24276,15 +23044,15 @@ is of the 'examples/latex_embed' code in the Sage distribution. Long live open source... :-) - =09 + Enjoy! - =09 + Regards, Bill Page. Jose Alfredo Perez -=09 + @@ -24293,9 +23061,8 @@ distribution. Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:53:00 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Bill Page +Subject: new version of Graphviz on MathAction includes psfrag Cc: Derek Rayside, list -Subject: new version of Graphviz on MathAction includes - psfrag I have upgraded Graphviz to the most recent version of GraphViz that I could find on the web: @@ -24341,9 +23108,7 @@ Bill Page. Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:04:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Derek Rayside To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Re: new version of Graphviz on MathAction - includes psfrag +Subject: Re: new version of Graphviz on MathAction includes psfrag Yes, those are the files. I should really update the website and get graphviz.org to update their links ... sorry about that ... glad you guys @@ -24403,7 +23168,6 @@ On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Page, Bill wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:45:15 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list Subject: RE: sage.sty Alfredo, @@ -24433,26 +23197,22 @@ ________________________________ Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:35 PM To: Bill Page Subject: sage.sty -=09 -=09 + + Bill, -=09 + Do you think I can get a copy of sage.sty, if it is stable enough and you are not currently modifying it. -=09 - Regards, -=09 - JAP -=09 - + Regards, + JAP \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:40:21 -0700 +From: William Stein To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Sage on MathAction -From: William Stein Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:02:03 -0700, Page, Bill Bill Page wrote: @@ -24477,19 +23237,10 @@ writing an interface. Here are some quick questions to get things started: contents of a text file from within Axiom? (This sort of thing is used by SAGE when input lines are huge.) - --- -William Stein -Associate Professor of Mathematics -University of Washington - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:12:42 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list Subject: RE: SandBox Request Alfred, @@ -24525,18 +23276,12 @@ will automatically be silent. Does that answer your question? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 16 Aug 2006 16:05:10 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Greetings! @@ -24664,40 +23409,12 @@ Take care, > > > > > > Axiom has had several releases since 20050901. > > > What do we need to do to bring it up to date? -> > > -> > > t -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > -> > -- -> > Camm Maguire -> > Camm Maguire -> > ============================================================== -> > ============ -> > "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> > Baha'u'llah -> > -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 16 Aug 2006 22:14:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: William Stein Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Sage on MathAction - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Aug 2006 22:14:45 +0200 -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - -Dear William, unfortunately, I don't have all the answers. But, anyway, that's what I know: @@ -24812,17 +23529,11 @@ which is quite OK, I guess.. (To see them, use HyperDoc: click Browse, enter KONVERT, click Constructors, enter INFORM, click Domains.) -Martin - - - - \start -Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Sage on MathAction Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:58:35 -0400 From: Bill Page To: William Stein -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Sage on MathAction On Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:40 PM William Stein wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:02:03 -0700, Bill Page wrote: @@ -24996,18 +23707,12 @@ languages. I hope this helps. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:10:47 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid - <54k65878g9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Robert Boyer > Can you please give me simple instructions whereby I > might obtain silver and reproduce this? Preferably stable @@ -25019,16 +23724,12 @@ See http://wiki.axiom-developer.de/AxiomSources and get the Then ./configure && make should do. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:19:10 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, list Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Camm, @@ -25080,22 +23781,12 @@ at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSilverBranch -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 16 Aug 2006 23:21:48 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid - <54k65878g9.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <44E389D7.1050106@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Aug 2006 23:21:48 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -25116,18 +23807,12 @@ Camm; I suspect Bill did not want to bother you with the build-improvements quirks. So, you can just grab the "trunk" of the svn repo; that is the silver branch. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:35:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Sage on MathAction - <9qzme44eve.fsf@login.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: William Stein, list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Cc: William Stein >> -- If X is an Axiom variable, is there a way to ask the Axiom command >> line for a list of function that take X as the first argument? @@ -25171,16 +23856,10 @@ Would you like )frame new Axiom )set message prompt verbose -??? - - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:08:21 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Ralf, @@ -25227,16 +23906,10 @@ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zsyncer http://zwiki.org/1252ZWikiPageModifiedTimeWrongInDifferentTimeZones -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:48:57 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at > Would you like to know more about how to do the ZSyncer? @@ -25249,15 +23922,10 @@ forward my changes to the axiom-developer wiki. And what about the portal, ie the plone stuff? No no, you don't need to install anything if it is not there. I am just curious. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:01:45 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Ralf, @@ -25297,16 +23965,10 @@ user and occurs when the new/revised page is first requested. ZSyncer works at the Zope level for both Axiom Wiki and Axiom Portal. The same method is used for both. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:04:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at http://sourceforge.net/projects/zsyncer @@ -25322,32 +23984,19 @@ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zsyncer Since I am a beginner, I don't even know how to get these two columns. :-( So how do I invoke ZSyncer on axiom.risc? -Ralf - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:29:31 +0200 -Subject: repetition of \subsection{Layer21} in - src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet - -Hello, +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: repetition of \subsection{Layer21} in src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet There are two subsections "Layer 21" in the file src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet. The line 1054 can be removed. -Greg - - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:36:51 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at On Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:34 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25491,17 +24140,10 @@ http://page.axiom-developer.org:8080/ZSyncer report that must be move to axiom-developer, my plan is to renumber it at that time. They should not be moved without first renumbering. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:56:22 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Thank you, Bill, @@ -25511,31 +24153,21 @@ necessary. You do a sync every week or so? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:45:25 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= on Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:29:31 +0200) -Subject: Re: repetition of \subsection{Layer21} in - src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet -Cc: list +Subject: Re: repetition of \subsection{Layer21} in src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet > There are two subsections "Layer 21" in the file > src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet. The line 1054 can be removed. fixed. available in the next release --t - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:57:57 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Ralf, @@ -25551,16 +24183,10 @@ there is no reason why one of us couldn't do it right away. Once you get used to the tool (and it's limitations) it doesn't seem to take long: 5 - 10 minutes. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:12:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at OK, @@ -25574,18 +24200,12 @@ ZSync I have seen that you could even roll back changes if I make some stupid mistake, right? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:46:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:46:09 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, 'axiom-dev' -Subject: - RE: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion +Subject: RE: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion +Cc: Camm Maguire On August 18, 2006 8:09 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -25618,19 +24238,12 @@ call before the rename? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:14:48 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Greetings! I seem to be missing some dependency: @@ -25696,29 +24309,13 @@ Bill Page writes: > at > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSilverBranch -> -> Thanks. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:35:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Robert Boyer On 08/18/2006 04:14 PM, Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! I seem to be missing some dependency: @@ -25740,16 +24337,10 @@ Obviously your $tangle variable expands to nothing. Something wrong with "configure", because build/scripts/document is generated during ./configure. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:45:54 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) -Cc: list, doyen-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Help/Guidance/anything... Jose, @@ -25783,33 +24374,22 @@ Please be sure to document how it works so we can build and maintain it. Doyen is as much about documenting the process as it is about building the CD. -t - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:48:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 18 Aug 2006 10:14:48 -0400) - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org, list Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer looks like there is a place where a ${NOTANGLE} symbol is not defined. the -t8 -delay are options on that command. -t - - - \start -To: Camm Maguire - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Aug 2006 16:56:09 +0200 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Camm Maguire writes: @@ -25828,18 +24408,12 @@ if you don't have noweb installed, the one comming with Axiom should be built, and configure substitute the right value for $tangle. --- Gaby - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:01:59 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: Ralf Hemmecke, "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Camm Maguire Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:01:59 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Robert Boyer On August 18, 2006 10:36 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -25907,21 +24481,10 @@ if [ "$#" = "1" ]; then fi echo "document [ -o redirect ] pamphlet" ---------------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:13:01 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:13:01 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at Ralf, @@ -25954,21 +24517,12 @@ that no one is particularly active about maintaining Zsyncer. So when using Zsyncer caution is appropriate. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 11:21:38 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Greetings, and thanks! ============================================================================= @@ -26404,43 +24958,25 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > if you don't have noweb installed, the one comming with Axiom should > be > built, and configure substitute the right value for $tangle. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:20:20 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, Robert Boyer, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer > If you look at build/scripts/document you'll find a lie that > looks like ^^^ guffaw.... - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:36:54 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes, Tim Daly -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:36:54 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Bob McElrath Subject: RE: Help/Guidance/anything... +Cc: Bob McElrath Alfredo, @@ -26563,24 +25099,12 @@ thumbnail as I suggested above. No, you are asking the right questions. Thank you for continuing this work. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:10:24 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly - boundary="----=_Part_12774_21510006.1155917424387" - <200608181445.k7IEjsR15631@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, doyen-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Help/Guidance/anything... -------=_Part_12774_21510006.1155917424387 - Thanks Tim for taking time to respond. The fundamental idea we are trying to achieve is to take a pamphlet @@ -26670,51 +25194,12 @@ Please be sure to document how it works so we can build and maintain it. Loud and clear. - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_12774_21510006.1155917424387 - -Thanks Tim for taking time to respond.

The fundamental idea we are trying to achieve is to take a pamphlet -
file from an external website URL and somehow "drag-and-drop" it onto
a browser location.

   Looking for a workaround now. -

-The paper and its embedded code should become
part of Axiom so the user can read it and use the code, perhaps in a
\begin{axiom} block.

 This is something that troubles me. What does it mean to become part of -
 axiom.

 If you have in a pamphlet:

   \begin{axiom} - integrate(sin, x) -\end{axiom}
 
 then this command should be executed and displayed inline, similar to
 what Bill has now with

  \begin{sage}
  maxima(....)
  \end{sage}

  Now to include a file, function or something else then the right way should be to -
  use something like:

  <<newfunction>>=
   .....................
  @

   and have something similar to what the tangle button inside Mathaction does, but
   looking for all the chunks and putting them together as one file. Maybe this is what -
   you mean to added it then to axiom (assuming that we can determine that is axiom),
   maybe: <<newfunction.axiom>>= or <<newfunction.maxima>>= or maybe let the user
   add the file manually. -

-It would be ideal if the drag-and-drop facility were not axiom specific
(or could be customized that way) so we could drag-and-drop onto any
system. That way the researcher can use any language to implement their
- -work. I realize that this does not benefit Axiom but the Doyen idea is
not just about Axiom, it is a science platform.

  Understood. 

-The drag-and-drop will work any way you choose to implement it.
The implementation determines a lot of what we can do. Since you've -
looked at the wiki and the axiom connection you are in the best
situation to say how it should work. Since no-one knows how to do it
your work is clearly research and you get to decide everything.
-
 I guess I better start writing specs and design for this, so anybody can
 give more input in a page in MathAction.

-Like any good research idea it will likely get adopted. The SAGE -
people could clearly use such a feature, especially if they adopt
some or all of Bill's work.

Of course, once people try the feature they will have new ideas so
your first implementation will likely get additional feedback. -
 
  I really hope so. Without feedback I feel that I am not doing the right thing.

- -Please be sure to document how it works so we can build and maintain it.
Doyen is as much about documenting the process as it is about building
the CD.

  Loud and clear.
 
  Regards,
-
  Jose Alfredo Perez
- - -------=_Part_12774_21510006.1155917424387-- - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:30:39 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_13319_33495696.1155918639428" - <022701c6c2dc$29bca3a0$6900a8c0@asus> -Cc: list, Bob McElrath Subject: Re: Help/Guidance/anything... - -------=_Part_13319_33495696.1155918639428 +Cc: Bob McElrath Bill, @@ -26788,69 +25273,24 @@ Again from my point of view this functionality is best implemented Thank you for taking time to answer my demands, I mean my questions. :-) - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_13319_33495696.1155918639428 - -Bill,

Time is something that should be freely given ... :) -

  Yes but I do not want to burn that bridge. :-).

I think what Tim is talking about is more similar to the Sage Notebook -
interface than it is to MathAction. MathAction does not use a "live"
Axiom process running in the background. The only interaction with
Axiom is during 'Preview' and 'Save'.

  Well then I guess it should be a combination of both. The drag and drop seems -
  more static to me in the sense that you just drag and drop a pamphlet it
  is processed and added to the wiki.

-AJAX (XMLHttpRequest etc.) might still be very useful in MathAction
however in order to reduce the network traffic during a preview
operation, for example.

  Then we can have something like SageNotebook ( -http://toolbox1.sytes.net/~alfredo/axiomui/ ) or if the  efforts of adding
Axiom to Sage goes well then this can be used.

-This latter suggestion is possible and is very similar to the method
used by TiddlyWiki. See also Bob McElrath's version of TiddlyWiki
with the jsMath and Axiom interface.

-http://bob.mcelrath.org/tiddlymath/tiddlyjsmath.html
http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath

I think that for personal use (maybe even in Doyen) this is a
-very nice wiki model.

 I will look into it.

Also if you haven't already done this, I think you might find it -
useful to go back and review the early part of the discussions on
the AxiomUI project with Kai Kaminski about this time last year.
Check the axiom-developer archives.

  I think I read it a long time ago, but I will go over it again. -

Perhaps it is appropriate to ask: What else besides just copying
the source text would we want the browser to do in this case? -

Tim is thinking about updating a local installation of Axiom with
some new packages, tests and other files. It seems to me that in
the current Doyen/MathAction model this is best done by the
pamphlet mechanism in the wiki server, not in JavaScript on the -
browser. E.g. one might imagine adding 'Build' and 'Run' commands
to supplement the existing 'tangle' function on the Pamphlet
thumbnail page so that it also becomes a kind of collaborative
web-based IDE (which also works local as Doyen). -

  I agree with you that the current pamphlet mechanism should be the
way to go.

-Again from my point of view this functionality is best implemented
on the server side, not in JavaScript.

  Server side it is.

  Thank you for taking time to answer my demands, I mean my questions. :-) -

  Regards,

  Jose Alfredo Perez

- -------=_Part_13319_33495696.1155918639428-- - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:50:28 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: Bill Page, - list - boundary="----=_Part_405_5184575.1155919828212" -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: AxiomUI -------=_Part_405_5184575.1155919828212 - -Bill, - http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomUI what is the status of this project??? Regards, -JAPP - -------=_Part_405_5184575.1155919828212 - -Bill,

http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomUI

what is the status of this project???

Regards,

JAPP
- -------=_Part_405_5184575.1155919828212-- - - - \start +Date: 18 Aug 2006 19:03:13 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Aug 2006 19:03:13 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer Bill Page writes: @@ -26934,22 +25374,12 @@ src/scripts/document.in reads fi echo "document [ -o redirect ] pamphlet" - - --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Camm Maguire - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54fyfukr25.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Aug 2006 19:20:53 +0200 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) - +Cc: Robert Boyer [...] @@ -27006,21 +25436,12 @@ else fi ----------------- - --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <543bbut9k7.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54fyfukr25.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 14:33:42 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Greetings, and thanks! I'm just after Bill's directoryp relocation error at the moment, and have a ton of other items on the plate. What @@ -27084,25 +25505,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > AC_SUBST(NOWEAVE) > fi > ----------------- -> -> -> -- Gaby -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:40:15 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:40:15 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Subject: RE: AxiomUI On August 18, 2006 12:50 PM Alfredo Portes @@ -27133,23 +25540,12 @@ like the one done for Maxima. This would make interfacing with Axiom much easier for MathAction and any other program that wants to use Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire, - Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:42:04 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) - -Camm, +Cc: Robert Boyer On August 18, 2006 2:34 PM you wrote: > @@ -27163,20 +25559,11 @@ I really appreciate you taking the time to look at this. apt-get install noweb ? :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:08:03 -0400 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' -Subject: - Re: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MutualRecursion Greetings! @@ -27224,28 +25611,13 @@ Bill Page writes: > (system "rm -r xxx.NRLIB") > > before the rename? -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:24:04 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Thank you! Off and running ... @@ -27266,32 +25638,13 @@ Bill Page writes: > > > > apt-get install noweb ? :) -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:38:16 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: Bill Page, - list - boundary="----=_Part_3929_23514294.1155929896533" -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Axiom LatexWiki -------=_Part_3929_23514294.1155929896533 - Bill any idea what is this: vp1:=draw(sin(x), x=%pi/10..%pi) @@ -27312,24 +25665,12 @@ That is using the binaries files of Axiom from MathAction: )version Value = "Wednesday June 21, 2006 at 03:45:56 " -------=_Part_3929_23514294.1155929896533 - -Bill any idea what is this:

vp1:=draw(sin(x), x=%pi/10..%pi)
   >> System error: -
  (SYSTEM "gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -I/home/page/repository/axiom--main--1/mnt/linux/bin/../h -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -c \"/tmp/gazonk1.c\" -o \"/tmp/gazonk1.o\" -w") returned a non-zero value 0. -

I get this error if I try to do:

\begin{axiom}
vp1:=draw(sin(x), x=%pi/10..%pi)
\end{axiom}

That is using the binaries files of Axiom from MathAction:

)version -
Value = "Wednesday June 21, 2006 at 03:45:56 "

- -------=_Part_3929_23514294.1155929896533-- - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Aug 2006 22:05:06 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer Bill Page writes: @@ -27351,16 +25692,10 @@ yes, that may solve his immediate issue. However, while I understand how his build is failing, I don't understand how he got there. My builds are OK. How are yours, except the GCL issue? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:45:32 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:45:32 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) On August 18, 2006 4:05 PM Gaby wrote: @@ -27383,26 +25718,12 @@ have not tried to build without having noweb pre-installed. I could do it later if you like. Maybe someone else can report on their experience? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:59:04 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: Bill Page, - list - boundary="----=_Part_5522_26430647.1155934744397" -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Another question -------=_Part_5522_26430647.1155934744397 - -Bill, - Probably this has come out many times in previous discussions. Given the latex output from Axiom, what would be the best way to display it on a webpage. @@ -27411,25 +25732,12 @@ Complete as latex document -> latex -> dvipng??? or how is it done on MathAction? -Regards, - -JAPP - -------=_Part_5522_26430647.1155934744397 - -Bill,

Probably this has come out many times in previous discussions.
Given the latex output from Axiom, what would be the best way to
display it on a webpage.

Complete as latex document -> latex -> dvipng??? -

or how is it done on MathAction?

Regards,

JAPP
- -------=_Part_5522_26430647.1155934744397-- - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:26:03 -0400 -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Greetings! @@ -27461,27 +25769,11 @@ Bill Page writes: > > > > apt-get install noweb ? :) -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:36:28 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:36:28 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: Questions Alfredo, @@ -27538,25 +25830,10 @@ I did anything with this so I don't recall much more about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb -More later, gotta run. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - -Regards, - -Jose Alfredo Perez - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Aug 2006 23:54:05 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) Bill Page writes: @@ -27593,16 +25870,10 @@ I tried to set up a cron job to mail results to axiom-testresults but at the moment, the build log is just too large for SF mailers to handle :-( --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:11:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD On 08/19/2006 12:23 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -27657,39 +25928,20 @@ domains, must be rewritten in Aldor and in a pamphlet style. The availability of manpower is a big question mark for a second implementation of Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:10:21 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 19 Aug 2006 01:11:09 +0200) Subject: re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org >From historical experience a new Aldor compiler would be a 3 year, 5 person project. -t - - - \start +Date: 19 Aug 2006 01:28:42 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - <200608182310.k7INALa15933@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 19 Aug 2006 01:28:42 +0200 -Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org Tim Daly writes: @@ -27705,23 +25957,11 @@ it may attract more students. Of course, that is not said to underestimate the task; just to remind that not everything has to be reinvented. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 19 Aug 2006 01:35:11 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: Using Aldor or SPAD - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - <200608182310.k7INALa15933@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 19 Aug 2006 01:35:11 +0200 -Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -27735,10 +25975,6 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: ouch, there is a missing "NOT" here. Sorry for that. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -27813,46 +26049,24 @@ else [(x::Rep).definitiverepresentation * Anyway. Any advice appreciated. -Thanks, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? To: list +Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? ---- Cliff Yapp wrote: - > However, derived / derived MIGHT yield a basic dimension, e.g. > Force*Acceleration/Length -> Mass. Is there a way to conditionalize I beg your pardon, that should be Force*Time*Time/Length -> Mass. Been a long day. -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 03:00:44 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? -Cc: list Hi Cliff, @@ -28008,18 +26222,11 @@ a dimension that looks like > Thanks, > CY -Ralf - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: +Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? > Hi Cliff, > @@ -28151,25 +26358,10 @@ added to either each other or a basic dimensional expression containing their "definition", because that definition is not unique. It's discussed more in the writeup. -Cheers, and thanks! - -Cliff - - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:42:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:42:22 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Subject: RE: Axiom LatexWiki Alfredo, @@ -28226,19 +26418,10 @@ generating unique temporary file names and there have been some discussions on the gcl-devel list about replacing it with a linux operating system standard method for tmp files. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:22:36 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: Cannot create the file /tmp/gazonk0.fn On August 18, 2006 10:42 PM I wrote: @@ -28325,20 +26508,12 @@ generated by the Axiom interpreter: The C code generated by gcl was a lot longer so I wont include it here. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:41:48 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Robert Boyer Camm, @@ -28380,24 +26555,12 @@ Bill Page. Ref. http://www.mail-archive.com/gcl-devel@gnu.org/msg01074.html - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:58:24 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: Bill Page, - list - boundary="----=_Part_9955_25096599.1155959904843" -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Axiom Session -------=_Part_9955_25096599.1155959904843 - -Bill, - In http://toolbox1.sytes.net/~alfredo/axiomui/ is any way to keep the Axiom session open in a server side script. @@ -28420,36 +26583,11 @@ it doesn't know about the previous calculation, like you can do inside Sage. Is there a way to do this in python??? or any other language? -Regards, - -JAPP - -------=_Part_9955_25096599.1155959904843 - -Bill,

In http://toolbox1.sytes.net/~alfredo/axiomui/

is any way to keep the Axiom session open in a server side script.

With this I mean, when I call axiom, I open a FILE stream and call -
certain functions in Axiom and get the result like this:

In perl, I am doing something like this:

open (FILE, "| /usr/bin/AXIOMsys >/tmp/axiom");
print FILE ")set output tex on\n"; -
print FILE ")set output algebra off\n";
print FILE ")set message autoload off\n";
print FILE ")set message type off\n";
print FILE $question;

however after the script finishes, the session too. So if you input a command after -
it doesn't know about the previous calculation, like you can do inside Sage.

Is there a way to do this in python??? or any other language?

Regards,

JAPP



- -------=_Part_9955_25096599.1155959904843-- - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:29:35 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 19 Aug 2006 01:35:11 +0200) Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: Using Aldor or SPAD - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - <200608182310.k7INALa15933@localhost.localdomain> - - -Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org | Tim Daly writes: | @@ -28461,26 +26599,12 @@ Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org of course, if it were written in lisp and assumed the axiom system underneath it then it is a much less complex problem. -t - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:58:06 +0200 -To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Gabriel Dos Reis From: Christian Aistleitner - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD -Hello, - On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 01:11:09 +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > On 08/19/2006 12:23 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -28513,20 +26637,11 @@ reimplementation of it. This is not some funny side remark of myself, but a real issue. Just think about the pain ReactOS is going through. --- -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:07:56 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? -Cc: list - -Hi Cliff, I am just in the middle of @@ -28554,16 +26669,10 @@ In section 4.2.2 I read The latter ^2 must be a spelling error. If you really mean that, then I cannot follow anymore. Shouldn't it be <1>? -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:14:31 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Units and dimensions Hi Cliff, @@ -28674,19 +26783,11 @@ about thinking along these lines for implementing dimensions in Axiom? Maybe some day I'll find time to code my ideas into Aldor which would then be open for criticism. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 04:31:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: +Subject: Re: Anybody up for a few basic Aldor questions? > Hi Cliff, > @@ -28729,24 +26830,12 @@ unfinished, and when it IS finished it will be properly cited. Er, yes - that's a typo. Thanks for spotting it! -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: Re: Units and dimensions ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: - > Hi Cliff, > > At the end of section 4.4.2 of @@ -29019,23 +27108,11 @@ it a real pamphlet) but as Tim says there is no such thing as a simple job. This is compounded by being somewhat different from "typical" mathematical programming in Axiom. -Cheers, and thanks again. - -Cliff - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 19 Aug 2006 14:56:47 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: Units and dimensions -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 19 Aug 2006 14:56:47 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -29080,20 +27157,12 @@ coerce: BasicDimension -> DerivedDimension In Axiom there are categories for these operations, by the way. - - -Martin - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:51:14 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer Bill Page writes: @@ -29123,27 +27192,11 @@ axiom.build-improvements: Is that correct? -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:54:06 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: Using Aldor or SPAD - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - <200608182310.k7INALa15933@localhost.localdomain> - - - <200608190429.k7J4TZQ16041@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:54:06 +0200 -Cc: list, aldor-l@aldor.org Tim Daly writes: @@ -29163,21 +27216,10 @@ new compiler, it would be engineered so that it solves problems encountered by Axiom uses and improve the way people think of or write Axiom libraries. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Christian Aistleitner - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Aug 2006 15:58:13 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Christian Aistleitner Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD Christian Aistleitner writes: @@ -29229,14 +27271,10 @@ answer any technical question about the *Aldor language*? :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:49:54 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: Typo in src/algebra/attreg.spad.pamphlet Hello, @@ -29253,19 +27291,11 @@ Hello, NullSquare ++ \axiom{NullSquare} means that \axiom{[x,x] = 0} holds. - - -Greg - - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:47:04 +0200 -Subject: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the - compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented --=-r0PeBCsaZTY2UpqZ5ATP @@ -29298,18 +27328,13 @@ MyIndexedOneDimensionalArray(S:Type, mn:Integer):_ --=-r0PeBCsaZTY2UpqZ5ATP-- - - - \start -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when - the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -From: Martin Rubey Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:59:55 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: > Hello, > @@ -29346,23 +27371,12 @@ MyIndexedOneDimensionalArray(S:Type, mn:Integer):_ > Implementation == add > > minIndex x == mn -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - \start -Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when - the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Martin Rubey - <9q7j14oe44.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:08:56 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented Le samedi 19 ao=FBt 2006 =E0 18:59 +0200, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: @@ -29380,22 +27394,11 @@ Thank you very much. Exactly, I think I will report this bug (segmentation fault). -Greg - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:14:48 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when - the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -Cc: list - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------020708060303080000000209 +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented Reproducible, with my compilation of axiom--main-1 on debian sarge. @@ -29420,17 +27423,11 @@ MyIndexedOneDimensionalArray(S:Type, mn:Integer):_ minIndex x == mn ---------------020708060303080000000209-- - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:34:01 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Units and dimensions - <9qy7tkdgts.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list >>> So Length, Length*Time^(-1) etc. are examples for such >>> monomials. @@ -29471,18 +27468,12 @@ and getting feedback. Martin, you are right. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:34:52 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:34:52 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer On August 19, 2006 9:51 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -29499,19 +27490,11 @@ On August 19, 2006 9:51 AM Gaby wrote: Yes, that is correct. Do you have all the pieces? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:01:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: Units and dimensions To: Ralf Hemmecke, Martin Rubey -Cc: list +Subject: re: Units and dimensions Thanks all for taking the time to think about this. If we are going to go ahead and use CircularCurvature as a basic dimension, (e.g. insist @@ -29523,28 +27506,12 @@ and get a units bibliography going (we can always update it later to meet final conventions, I suppose - sigh.) I'll upload it to the portal once I've got something reasonable. -Cheers, and thanks again. - -Cliff - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: Ralf Hemmecke, - "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when - the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:01:50 -0400 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -> Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: > > > If someone can try to compile, in a fresh new axiom session, > > the attached file. I get a segmentation fault. @@ -29597,18 +27564,12 @@ result. http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxPileNotation - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:22:38 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Robert Boyer, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: NULL_OR_ON_C_STACK macro invalid (was: noweb) +Cc: Camm Maguire, Robert Boyer Bill Page writes: @@ -29630,17 +27591,10 @@ Bill Page writes: if you could give me a collection of pointers to them that would be appreciated. -Thansk! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:35:55 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer' Subject: #pile vs. non-#pile >>> )abbrev domain MYIARR MyIndexedOneDimensionalArray @@ -29676,17 +27630,11 @@ introduce some style conventions. (I have mine for non-pile mode more or less encoded in aldor-mode.el. But if more people start programming in Aldor I'll probably start a Wikipage about style conventions.) -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:42:27 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 19 Aug 2006 22:35:55 +0200) Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -Cc: list > >> Anyway that is a very good example why pile syntax is > >> terrible. @@ -29722,11 +27670,6 @@ If we are going to count spaces we might as well add line numbers. What possible advantage can piles claim? -t - - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -29743,23 +27686,11 @@ The trick, of course, is to get a time which works for everyone, but presumably some something could be worked out. Is that of any interest/potential use? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:37:30 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: IRC meeting? -Cc: list I suppose we could work out a scheduled time for "group meetings". I'm usually online all day and late into the night but a scheduled @@ -29767,15 +27698,10 @@ time would make it reasonable. I have not been monitoring the IRC channel because the beta version of Gaim cannot handle the IRC helper plugin. I just downgraded my version of Gaim and now it works. -t - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:06:30 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: line-breaking CY, Kai, and I discussed line-breaking on the IRC channel @@ -29796,20 +27722,11 @@ different from and other format domains. each would do line-breaking in different places using different rules. -t - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when - the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 20 Aug 2006 05:09:00 +0200 -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer' - -Bill Page writes: - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: reproducibility of a segmentation fault when the compiler encounters a macro (with $lisp) badly indented [...] @@ -29828,17 +27745,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Well, I find the pile stuff a terrible language feature. But, I suspect we have been through that before... --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:38:45 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: #pile vs. non-#pile -Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:38:45 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On August 19, 2006 6:42 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -29915,19 +27826,11 @@ In my opinion SPAD and Aldor #pile syntax was not a mistake - it was just implementing yet another important idea in programming language design, way before it's time. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:57:19 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:57:19 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29971,16 +27874,11 @@ bug in one of my Haskell programs, only to discover that it was an identation issue in an instance declaration. That bug happened after reformating a correct, working, program. It is a misfeature. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:53:58 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: IRC meeting? -Cc: list C Y wrote: > Since the Axiom developers are in such remote geographic locations, I @@ -29997,16 +27895,11 @@ time zones is probably something early morning Saturday Pacific (US) time. This gives the folks who work full time a chance to get some rest, and just about everyone else is in some part of the weekend. - - - \start Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:55:41 -0700 From: Ed Borasky To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: IRC meeting? - <200608192337.k7JNbU016777@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list root wrote: > I suppose we could work out a scheduled time for "group meetings". @@ -30014,24 +27907,14 @@ root wrote: > time would make it reasonable. I have not been monitoring the IRC > channel because the beta version of Gaim cannot handle the IRC helper > plugin. I just downgraded my version of Gaim and now it works. + I'm not a big fan of Gaim for IRC -- either XChat or KVIrc has a much better interface. XChat is a good bit lighter in weight, if that matters. - - - \start Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:23:48 +0200 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Christian Aistleitner - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - - -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD Hello, @@ -30051,25 +27934,10 @@ The term "technical question" is rather vague to me in this context. Up to my knowledge, people having seen the compiler sources may do only one thing (in the US): Write specifications. --- -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start -To: Christian Aistleitner - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <44E63B73.1050403@hemmecke.de> - - <44E6490D.60207@hemmecke.de> - - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:00:06 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Christian Aistleitner Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD Christian Aistleitner writes: @@ -30095,9 +27963,6 @@ well, I meant you (Christian). | only one thing (in the US): Write specifications. :-) --- Gaby - - \start Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) @@ -30115,25 +27980,11 @@ yet. Just for some more fun, this is using the eprint.sty system to add some hyperlinks to the bibliography (when available.) -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:52:15 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: #pile vs. non-#pile -Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:52:15 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Gaby, On August 20, 2006 12:57 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -30199,28 +28050,11 @@ the SPAD coding in the Axiom library of a logic error due to incorrect indentation. I am not saying that it is not possible, but simply that I find it unlikely. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <44E6170B.1020108@hemmecke.de> - - <9qoduh10ew.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <44E74486.1090706@hemmecke.de> <9qr6zbzs4h.fsf@login.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44E843DB.8010100@hemmecke.de> - <9qbqqfmvay.fsf_-_@login.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200608201535.k7KFZ8924649@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 20 Aug 2006 21:54:32 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] implementing aldor / new species - approach +From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] implementing aldor / new species approach Tim Daly writes: @@ -30235,17 +28069,14 @@ Tim Daly writes: Martin -PS: PLEASE (!!!!) copy to aldor-combinat only stuff specific to the combinat project! - - - +PS: PLEASE (!!!!) copy to aldor-combinat only stuff specific to the +combinat project! \start +Date: 20 Aug 2006 22:31:49 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Aug 2006 22:31:49 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30317,16 +28148,11 @@ syntax; he knows the Axiom library and worked on it. I'm just glad Adlor provided a better alternative. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:55:14 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -Cc: list On 08/20/2006 09:52 PM, Bill Page wrote: > All I wish to point out is that the statements made by you, @@ -30354,16 +28180,11 @@ you/we like. Don't waste time arguing about "blanks". -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 20 Aug 2006 23:13:20 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Aug 2006 23:13:20 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -30375,17 +28196,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: This line is intentionally left blank. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:19 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: #pile vs. non-#pile -Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:58:19 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On August 20, 2006 4:32 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -30467,19 +28282,11 @@ As far as I know, Aldor processes both #pile and non-pile inputs in the same way. The use of #pile mode just increases the expressiveness of the language a little. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: #pile vs. non-#pile To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: #pile vs. non-#pile I think Ralf called it - the way to do this is have some kind of pretty-printer that can convert between the two. They are, after all, @@ -30491,21 +28298,11 @@ between pile and no-pile with one push. Then everybody's happy. I suppose that's a project in itself though. -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 21 Aug 2006 00:54:30 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: #pile vs. non-#pile -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 21 Aug 2006 00:54:30 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -30560,17 +28357,10 @@ Test(): with tst: Integer -> Integer; == { Note that it makes many mistakes, but that's probably fixable. -Martin - - - - \start +Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:22:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:22:09 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Subject: RE: Another question Alfredo @@ -32099,7 +29889,6 @@ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:30 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Eitan Gurari Subject: re: Another question -Cc: list Eitan, @@ -32181,19 +29970,11 @@ comments and questions: Many, many thanks for this work! :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming +Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:19:32 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber To: Tim Daly - <1156225551.57220.62.camel@hawkings> - <200608220619.k7M6JYE11123@localhost.localdomain> -Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:19:32 +0200 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 02:19 -0400, root wrote: > > Nevertheless, my contribution do the documentation discussion is @@ -32249,24 +30030,10 @@ I see I have to work on my enlightenment :-) Thank you for your extensive explanation. -Gernot - - - - \start -To: Igor Khavkine - <9qejvbaxod.fsf@login.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qzmdy76gc.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qac5xnbcv.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qsljpn8yu.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 22 Aug 2006 10:38:29 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Igor Khavkine Subject: Re: [Axiom-math] Curious behavior of Taylor series Igor Khavkine writes: @@ -32441,18 +30208,12 @@ so that "explains" the appearance of z^(-order) in the ISUPS version. I have to stop here, sorry, -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:08:31 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: Another question -Cc: list, - Eitan Gurari +Cc: Eitan Gurari >> If for the purpose of translating that file to html you provide >> an appropriate axiom.sty (and axiom.4ht) which can be different @@ -32583,17 +30344,11 @@ axiom.somenumber.tex. Doesn't sound un-doable to me. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 22 Aug 2006 11:46:10 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Aug 2006 11:46:10 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Ralf, @@ -32691,18 +30446,12 @@ That's the second thing I cannot do. All the other things I can do within HyperDoc. -Martin - - - - \start -Subject: re: Another question Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:19:30 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, - Eitan Gurari +Subject: re: Another question +Cc: Eitan Gurari Ralf, @@ -32867,18 +30616,11 @@ LaTeX compile. Quite doable. Now, the question is: Are Axiom developers and users really motivated to use this sort of thing?? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:18:48 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gernot Hueber Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming - <1156225551.57220.62.camel@hawkings> -Cc: list > First of all, I want to point out that I don't want to advocate against > ALLPROSE for documentation, which is in fact an interesting development @@ -32931,17 +30673,11 @@ But I would never sacrifice the LP approach to doxygen. Doxygen (to my taste--correct me if I'm wrong) is only about the API, ie half of the story -- if not less. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:35:21 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Another question - <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list >> Anyway, would it be a good start to take dhmatrix. We could tex->latex it while >> we try to get an html out of it. @@ -32991,18 +30727,11 @@ I simply have the suspicion that Martin talks about pamphlet files of the form .spad.pamphlet and anybody else means pamphlets with general content so also .lisp.pamphlet or Makefile.pamphlet. Am I wrong? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:45:27 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:45:27 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -33049,18 +30778,12 @@ spad.pamphlet into ALLPROSE files could be done in a semi-automatic way. Am I missing something? I guess I'll have to try it out with some file. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:04:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: Another question -Cc: list, - Eitan Gurari +Cc: Eitan Gurari > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/book--main--1/bookvol1.tex > @@ -33174,18 +30897,11 @@ you send over this SAGE file. I don't have SAGE running here. Ooops. What sort of thing? -Ralf - - - - \start -Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming +Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:15:37 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber To: Ralf Hemmecke - <1156225551.57220.62.camel@hawkings> <44EAF628.9020909@hemmecke.de> -Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:15:37 +0200 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming Hi Ralf, @@ -33251,22 +30967,11 @@ Yes, you are right, I am/was too much focused on the API. Thanks for your comments. -Gernot - -> -> Ralf - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:35:08 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Another question - <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list Hi Martin, @@ -33382,19 +31087,11 @@ same function foo. One can writing \adname{foo} is ambiguous, but appropriate. Don't worry about the %. A script takes care before latex has a chance to see it. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 22 Aug 2006 15:44:15 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Aug 2006 15:44:15 +0200 -Cc: list Hi Ralf, @@ -33441,20 +31138,11 @@ Thus, If you want to do a super trooper thing, change the regexp in a way that instead looking for a semicolon, it just goes on until it finds a newline without a preceding underscore. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:12:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Another question - <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> - <9qveokj368.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list >> Maybe, I am wrong, but for me DHMATRIX is just a domain. A library is >> something like libaldor, libalgebra, libaxiom. @@ -33502,20 +31190,11 @@ Otherwise, could you exactly specify what you want? I don't want a such a thing, I want a semicolon. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 22 Aug 2006 16:20:22 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> <9qveokj368.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB10C3.70606@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Aug 2006 16:20:22 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -33571,18 +31250,11 @@ I'd like to have ALLPROSE instead of \adthisname{} write I know, Ralf. Me too. And I'd like to have at least a promise from Stephen Watt and Algebra.as and SumIt.as - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:08:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming -Cc: list > To deal with pile syntax maybe we could make use of the > SPAD to Aldor translation option built into Axiom that @@ -33665,21 +31337,11 @@ latex taking care of the hyperlinks across different files. Maybe the latter could also done separately but sharing .aux files, but that is beyond my abilities. -Ralf - - - \start -From: Eitan Gurari Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:16:39 -0400 +From: Eitan Gurari To: Bill Page Subject: re: Another question - -Cc: list - - - - > to significant, but I just did a few experiments using htlatex on > @@ -33748,20 +31410,12 @@ An exponent on a left parenthesis: $${\bf Rot(k,\theta)} = {\bf Rot(^C{\bf z},\theta)}\eqno(1.60)$$ --eitan - - - \start -From: Eitan Gurari Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:26:17 -0400 +From: Eitan Gurari To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EB00FA.8000008@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, - Eitan Gurari - - +Cc: Eitan Gurari > I wouldn't care too much. tex4ht can split pages at section points (or > in fact anywhere you like). Unfortunately, for some strange reason I do @@ -33771,18 +31425,12 @@ Cc: list, It should be easy for me to identify the reason for the problem given a minimal miniature latex file demonstrating the problem. --eitan - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:26:54 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:08:31 +0200) Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Eitan Gurari +Cc: Eitan Gurari > Well, maybe we should start with dhmatrix. I somehow agree with you and > Eitan. Writing TeX should not be considered the best way of writing a @@ -33792,36 +31440,30 @@ Cc: list, Eitan Gurari can you give me an example? -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:40:30 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Another question - <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> - <9qveokj368.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB10C3.70606@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gk97ix.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On 08/22/2006 04:20 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> ->>>> [...] in that chunk, then that corresponds to \atthistype. (And, yes Martin, ->>>> that can be replaced on the fly by the appropriate \adtype{DomainName}, ->>> GREAT! could you send me an appropriate patch, please. Then I can document my ->>> guessing package with ALLPROSE. ->>>> but that is only half of the story.) ->>> Why? ->> That is the reason why it is completely unnecessary to replace \adthistype by ->> \adtype{DomainName}. If you look at the generated .as.nw.tex file, you see that ->> after \begin{+++} there suddenly appears an \addefinetype{DomainName} that you ->> have never typed yourself. This command defines \adthistype. So you should be + +>>>> [...] in that chunk, then that corresponds to \atthistype. (And, +>>>> yes Martin, that can be replaced on the fly by the appropriate +>>>> \adtype{DomainName}, + +>>> GREAT! could you send me an appropriate patch, please. Then I can +>>> document my guessing package with ALLPROSE. > but that is only +>>> half of the story.) Why? + +>> That is the reason why it is completely unnecessary to replace +>> \adthistype by \adtype{DomainName}. If you look at the generated +>> .as.nw.tex file, you see that after \begin{+++} there suddenly +>> appears an \addefinetype{DomainName} that you have never typed +>> yourself. This command defines \adthistype. So you should be >> already happy. -> + > No, I'm not. I need this in the generated .spad (or .as) file, i.e., here > > +++ \begin{addescription}{Generates all isomorphism types.} @@ -33866,18 +31508,12 @@ have no tool to process it, or have you? Then you should write to Stephen for compiler and libraries and to Stephane Dalmas for SumIt. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:41:41 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: Another question -Cc: Eitan Gurari, list +Cc: Eitan Gurari > Quite doable. Now, the question is: Are Axiom developers and > users really motivated to use this sort of thing?? @@ -33891,18 +31527,12 @@ probably i am; but i can't figure out what 'this sort of thing' is. *) where do i get them, *) how do i set them up? -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:57:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> - <200608221526.k7MFQse27487@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Eitan Gurari +Cc: Eitan Gurari On 08/22/2006 05:26 PM, root wrote: >> Well, maybe we should start with dhmatrix. I somehow agree with you and @@ -33964,18 +31594,11 @@ happen. That is the problem with writing plain TeX. No good markup. :-( Writing proper environments makes translation to other formats a lot easier. -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: RE: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:08:29 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: RE: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:08 AM you wrote: > Bill Page wrote: @@ -34125,18 +31748,11 @@ hyperdoc does now. Sometimes I wonder just how appropriate LaTeX-oriented tools are for this task... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:16:07 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Eitan Gurari Subject: re: Another question - <17643.8729.854830.410118@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> -Cc: list On 08/22/2006 05:26 PM, Eitan Gurari wrote: > @@ -34184,22 +31800,11 @@ whatever you find appropriate. If you don't understand the code, just ask. - -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 22 Aug 2006 18:16:31 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> <9qveokj368.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB10C3.70606@hemmecke.de> <9q64gk97ix.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <44EB256E.2090907@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 22 Aug 2006 18:16:31 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34266,25 +31871,11 @@ HyperDoc understands \newcommand. I did this many times, didn't even get an answer. -Martin - - - - \start -From: Eitan Gurari Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:23:45 -0400 +From: Eitan Gurari To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EB00FA.8000008@hemmecke.de> - <17643.8729.854830.410118@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> - <44EB2DC7.3050505@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - - - - -Ralf, > I believe it would, but the problem is that I cannot easily make the > documentation smaller, because it would basically mean that I find the @@ -34299,23 +31890,11 @@ commands are configured in tex4ht. :-( --eitan - - - - \start -From: Eitan Gurari Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:35:15 -0400 +From: Eitan Gurari To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - <44EAC98F.2070902@hemmecke.de> - <200608221526.k7MFQse27487@localhost.localdomain> - <44EB295F.40607@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - - - > instead of > \begin{axiominput} @@ -34338,16 +31917,11 @@ Indeed. A configuration similar to the following one, in the case of tex4ht. {}{} \Css{div.axiominput {background-color:...;}} --eitan - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:46:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Using ALLPROSE for SPAD programming -Cc: list >> Bill Page wrote: >>> From my point of view the objectives of using ALLPROSE are a @@ -34458,17 +32032,11 @@ then everything would be there, but the result is the API description only. Yep. Going the 'long way' is exactly that. But I have not yet written the AldorDoc tool to do the "extract +++ comments". -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:03:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Eitan Gurari Subject: re: Another question - <17643.8151.780121.441570@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> -Cc: list > I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and was > successful only after introducing the following disabling instructions. @@ -34482,22 +32050,11 @@ Cc: list Somehow it seems that you are not using "\usepackage{noweb}". The last three commands should be defined in there. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:08:55 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Another question - <9q3bbphzml.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EAFA09.6010703@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gl0wig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB080C.6020401@hemmecke.de> - <9qveokj368.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB10C3.70606@hemmecke.de> - <9q64gk97ix.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <44EB256E.2090907@hemmecke.de> - <9qsljohhk0.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list > HyperDoc processes exactly the lines preceded by +++ . So the line > @@ -34525,23 +32082,11 @@ I am not going to invest my time in such legacy stuff. Let HyperDoc work as it is now and for new code use newer technology. We have webbrowsers meanwhile. -Ralf - - - \start -From: Eitan Gurari Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:11:43 -0400 +From: Eitan Gurari To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Another question - - <17643.8151.780121.441570@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> - <44EB38D5.7010806@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - - - - > > I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and was > > successful only after introducing the following disabling instructions. @@ -34558,16 +32103,11 @@ Cc: list The file bookvol1.tex I downloaded doesn't explicitly request such a file. I guess it should have be requested indirectly elsewhere. -eitan - - - - \start -Subject: re: Another question Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:31:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke, Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: re: Another question On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:05 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > .. @@ -34803,10 +32343,10 @@ def block_end(): _file_.write('}\n') \start -Subject: re: Another question Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:49:43 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Eitan Gurari, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: Another question Eitan, @@ -35672,8 +33212,8 @@ result here for feedback. \start Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:45:25 +0200 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Using Aldor or SPAD Hello, @@ -42785,7 +40325,7 @@ I'm sure you can add that :) \start Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:03:12 +0200 -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: --patch-50 diff --git a/book/2006-09.txt b/book/2006-09.txt index 4ccf3ab..4206325 100644 --- a/book/2006-09.txt +++ b/book/2006-09.txt @@ -3528,15 +3528,6 @@ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 13:32:26 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - boundary="----=_Part_80316_27433402.1157218346629" - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <44F99E5A.4010001@plaidheron.com> - - <87u03qqk1d.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list - -------=_Part_80316_27433402.1157218346629 Gaby, @@ -3569,34 +3560,11 @@ Matthew Garrett I apologize if my comment was wrongly interpreted. - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_80316_27433402.1157218346629 - -Gaby,

 I knew this part was going to be taken in another context, and by no means
 I tried to underestimate the work you are doing. Plus, I do recall your email
 explaining that you did not want waste time testing on systems, when you -
 could focus on your research or teaching.

Here is a concrete proposal for you:  get subscribed at SF (if you're -
not already) and install latex on all the non-linux systems they have
and do the testings on all of those hosts, send the build log back to me.

  I guess your point with this assignment is to show me how difficult it is. By no -
  means I wanted to say this was trivial. But if that helps with the great work you are
  doing, I would be more than glad. But I am curious, couldn't be latex be avoided for
  testing purposes, and then have it as a requirement later on??? (do latex to build the -
  documentation).

   But again what do I know. But if you read the thread again it looked like developers
   clashing over ideas, which is normal until it gets to point similar -to Matthew Garrett
   resignation from Debian.

   I apologize if my comment was wrongly interpreted.

   Regards,

   Jose Alfredo Perez


- -------=_Part_80316_27433402.1157218346629-- - - - \start +Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:43:06 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX -From: Jay Belanger - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:43:06 -0500 - of "01 Sep 2006 18\:59\:39 -0500") -Cc: - Gabriel Dos Reis writes: ... @@ -3615,22 +3583,11 @@ literate bit-rot? What is it, then? -Jay - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:39:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <44F99E5A.4010001@plaidheron.com> - - <87u03qqk1d.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -3672,20 +3629,11 @@ primarily interested in testing Axiom. Consequently, I believe we should make it possible to allow people to test Axiom on system lacking latex. I don't see how that harms Axiom. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 02 Sep 2006 14:44:55 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Jay Belanger Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Sep 2006 14:44:55 -0500 -Cc: list Jay Belanger writes: @@ -3709,61 +3657,32 @@ allowed in build environement without latex? That way we can meaningfully reject any help amounting to test Axiom in an environment without latex. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Some typos in src/algebra -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Sep 2006 14:52:51 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Some typos in src/algebra -Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: | See attachment... applied to build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:51:12 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 02 Sep 2006 14:44:55 -0500) Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list - -Gaby, This is an sourceforge project admin detail. I'll handle it. I've sent a request to the sourceforge response team. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:03:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <200609021951.k82JpCh23733@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -3775,23 +3694,11 @@ On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, root wrote: Great! latex and svn are missing. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:04:31 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX -From: Jay Belanger - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:04:31 -0500 - of "02 Sep 2006 14\:44\:55 -0500") -Cc: - Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -3826,26 +3733,11 @@ it. I don't have any beliefs in the matter. I was asking what I thought was an important question which I didn't see addressed in this thread. -Jay - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 16:08:54 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - boundary="----=_Part_81548_27414484.1157227734116" - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list - -------=_Part_81548_27414484.1157227734116 - - Gaby, Why don't you register at SF and fix the build environment so that > you can report on testings if you believe that Axiom should not be @@ -3868,32 +3760,11 @@ features will not be available. I am sure you have already said this on this thread. - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_81548_27414484.1157227734116 - -  Gaby,

  Why don't you register at SF and fix the build environment so that
you can report on testings if you believe that Axiom should not be -
allowed in build environement without latex?  That way we can
meaningfully reject any help amounting to test Axiom in an environment
without latex.

  I think what Jay is trying to say is that regular users will use binaries or -
  PM to install axiom. However the case you are referring is to people who
  would like to contribute, but shouldnt any code to be contributed to
  Axiom be in LP form also? I know this is not the standard, but I think -
  that would be the final goal? How can this be accomplished without Latex?

   However, I think a compromise could be to have something like --without-latex
   (extreme case), but knowing that documentation, and other possible future features -
   will not be available. I am sure you have already said this on this thread.

    Regards,

    Jose Alfredo Perez



 


- -------=_Part_81548_27414484.1157227734116-- - - - \start Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:29:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <44F99E5A.4010001@plaidheron.com> <87u03qqk1d.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list > We are primarily interested in testing Axiom. Consequently, I > believe we should make it possible to allow people to test Axiom on @@ -3920,19 +3791,11 @@ src/doc/Makefile.pamphlet src/doc/bookvol1.pamphlet src/script/document -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:35:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Debian build failure - <200609020547.k825lgn23047@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Hi Tim, Do these lines help you? @@ -3946,22 +3809,11 @@ ${MID} Unfortunately I have no idea whether $ should be escaped or not. I was unable to find an appropriate line in the gawk info pages. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:41:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - -Cc: list On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -4007,23 +3859,11 @@ Now, do you believe that we have enough resources and testers on all platforms we want to support, so that we should refuse building Axiom without latex? That is NOT a rhetorical question. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:45:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <44F99E5A.4010001@plaidheron.com> - - <87u03qqk1d.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - <44F9E995.6060208@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -4061,22 +3901,11 @@ I would like to divide the make rules so that we have "make dvi" that does the latexing, separated from the rest. Of course, for releases "make all" will compile codes and "make dvi". --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 02 Sep 2006 15:49:01 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Jay Belanger Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87sljakpbk.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Sep 2006 15:49:01 -0500 -Cc: list Jay Belanger writes: @@ -4100,24 +3929,11 @@ Basically, here is what I would like to see: at acm.org) the build log. I'm particularly interested in issues related to X11. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 02 Sep 2006 16:20:00 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Jay Belanger Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87sljakpbk.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <873bbaq9j6.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87odtyotxr.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Sep 2006 16:20:00 -0500 -Cc: list Jay Belanger writes: @@ -4132,20 +3948,12 @@ Jay Belanger writes: | Okay. I'll read up on the compile farm tonight and get the logs to | you when I get the chance. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:05:47 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: Gold source tarball -Hello, - In the page http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSources, it is written : "the stable release is avaiblable either via a direct source tarball or via access to CVS or TLA archives. You find more details at @@ -4154,11 +3962,6 @@ good idea to allow user to download a source tarball either from SourceForge or savannah, they offer this type of service (from wiki.axiom-developer is a good idea too). -Greg - - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:05:22 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -4174,16 +3977,11 @@ svn cleanup axiom fails Is anyone able to check out the silver branch? -t - - - \start +Date: 03 Sep 2006 10:50:03 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: silver checkout -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Sep 2006 10:50:03 -0500 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -4209,17 +4007,12 @@ It just finished with Do you have connection troubles? --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Sep 2006 12:03:22 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: awk and espace - I believe there was a discussion yesterday about awk and escapes involving $, \ and debian. While working on the makefiles for something unrelated, I happen to notice that on a non-debian system I @@ -4230,16 +4023,10 @@ have the following warnings and so on. So, if you fix this; make sure you don't fix it "just" for debian. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:10:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:10:09 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: cross-compiling Axiom On September 1, 2006 7:40 PM Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -4262,18 +4049,10 @@ platform? Or do I misunderstand what you mean? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:41:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: cross-compiling Axiom On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -4314,16 +4093,10 @@ I don't know; however, you're most certainly welcome to explain why you believe people suggesting cross-compilation of Axiom don't know how lisp works. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:53:28 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:53:28 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: cross-compiling Axiom On September 3, 2006 1:41 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -4341,18 +4114,10 @@ On September 3, 2006 1:41 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: But... when GCL compiles a function it becomes *part* of GCL. How can we separate that? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:56:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: RE: cross-compiling Axiom On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -4377,28 +4142,16 @@ cross-compilation of Axiom don't know what how lisp works. Once you've given your justifications, we should be able to work out where the confusions are. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:08:42 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:08:42 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: cross-compiling Axiom I don't know who doesn't know what doesn't work. I just asked how can this be done with gcl? > -----Original Message----- -> From: gdr@moon.tamu.edu [mailto:gdr@moon.tamu.edu] On Behalf -> Of Gabriel Dos Reis -> Sent: September 3, 2006 1:57 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: list; 'root' -> Subject: RE: cross-compiling Axiom > > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -4424,21 +4177,12 @@ asked how can this be done with gcl? > cross-compilation of Axiom don't know what how lisp works. Once > you've given your justifications, we should be able to work out where > the confusions are. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> - - - - \start +Date: 03 Sep 2006 13:44:04 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Sep 2006 13:44:04 -0500 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -4460,28 +4204,13 @@ Most distributors work that way, because they usually have faster build machines. Again, refer to Benjamin Kosnik's message from April 2006. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:18:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:18:24 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - - > -----Original Message----- -> From: Gabriel Dos Reis -> [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis -> Sent: September 3, 2006 2:44 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: list -> Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -> > > Bill Page writes: > @@ -4537,19 +4266,11 @@ for Axiom. http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-04/msg00318.html -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:43:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -4633,17 +4354,11 @@ is fine. Let's move to another topic, and come back when I've finished my work on cross-compilation. Let's not just tell people that they don't understand how lisp work. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Bill Page -Cc: list Gaby, just for my own information: @@ -4675,24 +4390,12 @@ this situation. Cheers, and thanks again for all your hard work. -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:01:45 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:37:46 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -CY, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Axiom was ported to the Zaurus handheld using cross-compilation. Camm does it in the Debian setup. @@ -4700,8 +4403,6 @@ Camm does it in the Debian setup. There are two methods generally used, CROSS-COMPILATION and CROSS-MOUNTING. - - CROSS-COMPILATION involves two systems, B -- the build system and T -- the target system. You compile on B but tell GCC that the target is T. @@ -4773,20 +4474,12 @@ have the horsepower. Which method you use is determined by the resources of the target. - - -t - - - \start +Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:46:12 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Cliff Yapp Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:46:12 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Camm Maguire, Gabriel Dos Reis On September 3, 2006 8:02 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -4963,24 +4656,14 @@ Camm writes: http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2005-04/msg01510.= htm l -http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2005-04/msg01463.= -htm -l - - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - +http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2005-04/msg01463.html \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:06:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -4994,17 +4677,12 @@ the cross-compiled GCL will on the target (which is also the host). http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Emulators - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:22:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -5022,19 +4700,12 @@ On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: I believe you're confusing "cross-compiling GCL" and "building a GCL cross-compiler". In my Axiom work, I'm interested in the former. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:18:47 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Bill, +Cc: Camm Maguire, Gabriel Dos Reis I was giving a tutorial on the difference between two different obscure techniques that could be used to get Axiom running on a new @@ -5152,19 +4823,12 @@ ummm, again, I don't believe I said it was.... I was just giving a tutorial about the two techniques. I don't recommend either one. -t - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:40:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom - <200609040218.k842IlG31930@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -5188,10 +4852,6 @@ compiled Axiom as a Canadian cross which is pointless in this specific case). The cross-compiled tools or programs just act natively when run on the host. I suspect that is the part Bill is confused about. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:25:24 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -5210,33 +4870,19 @@ that contains a file called PATCHES which lists all of the commands used to make the changes. It also contains *.patch files which are the diff -Naur changes to each file. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 04 Sep 2006 00:13:00 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: --patch-50 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Sep 2006 00:13:00 -0500 -Cc: list - -Tim Daly writes: | Sourceforge SVN trunk/axiom is up to date with the Gold version -Many thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:13:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, C Y wrote: @@ -5284,10 +4930,6 @@ But, isn't Maxima capable of using a lisp implementation other than GCL? You're welcoome. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:10:17 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -5303,10 +4945,6 @@ is a worthless command. Am I the only one with this problem? -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:30:24 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -5334,18 +4972,11 @@ version with svn tags, and had a confirmed commit. SVN is clearly not ready for prime time. -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:54:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN problems -Cc: list - -Hi Tim, I don't know on which system you work, but I had no problem with the svn on debian that I installed via @@ -5386,19 +5017,12 @@ On 09/04/2006 07:30 PM, root wrote: > version with svn tags, and had a confirmed commit. > > SVN is clearly not ready for prime time. -> -> t - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:57:09 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:54:17 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list I have svn installed. @@ -5418,21 +5042,11 @@ clearly this must be something i'm doing wrong but after twice reading the docs and much frustration i give up. - -t - - - \start +Date: 04 Sep 2006 13:38:56 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Sep 2006 13:38:56 -0500 -Cc: list - -Tim Daly writes: | my major problem is that svn appears to have lost my work. | the WHOLE point of version control is NEVER to lose work. @@ -5443,18 +5057,11 @@ other major projects. I'll try to look into your issues later tonight. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:46:18 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list > my major problem is that svn appears to have lost my work. > the WHOLE point of version control is NEVER to lose work. @@ -5502,17 +5109,11 @@ translation of 0x0d to 0x0a in several places. Maybe the picture is already broken in CVS and was wrongly moved from CVS to SVN? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:48:04 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: SVN problems -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:48:04 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 4, 2006 1:10 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -5540,28 +5141,14 @@ I had similar problems with arch (tla) on Windows. The only source code system that has worked reliably for me on both Linux and Windows has been darcs. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 04 Sep 2006 15:50:02 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> - <44FC828A.2060502@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Sep 2006 15:50:02 -0500 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: - -[...] - | Committed revision 1. | cd ~/scratch | svn co file:///home/hemmecke/scratch/SVNMYTEST/AXIOM ax @@ -5577,17 +5164,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: Ralf, please could you check in the corrected versions? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:56:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: SVN problems -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:56:55 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 4, 2006 3:46 PM Ralf Hemmecke > ... @@ -5622,19 +5203,11 @@ this problem it is necessary to remove these files first and then re-import them? Or to mark them properly in CVS and move them again? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:07:35 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN problems -Cc: list > However Tim did write: > @@ -5677,20 +5250,11 @@ flag: Let's hope that one can trust that. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:06:47 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:46:18 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> - <44FC828A.2060502@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Maybe the picture is already broken in CVS and was wrongly moved from > CVS to SVN? @@ -5742,17 +5306,11 @@ the only system we haven't yet tried). Failing that I'd be happy to set up a silver Arch branch. -t - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:37:24 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: SVN problems -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:37:24 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 4, 2006 6:07 PM Tim Daly wrote: @@ -5786,19 +5344,11 @@ I think we need to resolve the problems Tim is having with SVN and then get on with what we have been planning for the last few months with Axiom Silver on SVN. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 04 Sep 2006 18:40:13 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN problems -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Sep 2006 18:40:13 -0500 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -5828,18 +5378,11 @@ with here and outside have not reported the same kind of troubles he is having. You seem to know the symptoms... Tim are you indeed using a windows-based system? Bill, how did you "solve" the problems? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:58:58 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 04 Sep 2006 18:40:13 -0500) Subject: Re: SVN problems - <87zmdfb3qa.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list > The trouble is I don't what his settings are. All colleagues I work > with here and outside have not reported the same kind of troubles he @@ -5862,18 +5405,12 @@ Try checking out the Arch golden source and do a At the time I did the silver commit these two source trees were identical. Following the commit I did an svn checkout and the trees differ radically. -t - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:58:18 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: SVN problems -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:58:18 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On September 4, 2006 7:59 PM Tim Daly wrote: @@ -5920,21 +5457,12 @@ already in the repository that are not properly labelled as 'binary'. You need to change this attribute in SVN for these files before doing the commit. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:08:41 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: SVN problems -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Although the answer is irrelevant to Tim's situation, I do not > have a solution to the problems on Windows yet. Most recently @@ -5974,17 +5502,11 @@ And it is not simply 'binary' vs 'text' apparently. SOME of the .patch files (not all, which puzzles) in zips have been changed by SVN. The .patch files are clearly text. -t - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:22:35 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:22:35 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 4, 2006 5:13 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -6102,20 +5624,12 @@ use on a target system different from the host. Has anyone tried this? E.g. Successfully building a version of Maxima for Sparc hardware on an i386 Linux system? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:30:03 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: SVN problems -Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:30:03 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Tim, @@ -6176,19 +5690,11 @@ I think you might need to check/set the properties etc. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:44:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -6370,17 +5876,11 @@ for its simplicity at exposing the core issues. Please, again have a look at the description of how SBCL achieves cross-compilation. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:27:41 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: SVN problems - <87lkoz1hmt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list > | Committed revision 1. > | cd ~/scratch @@ -6456,20 +5956,11 @@ branch, would it make sense to remove the archive and just import from build-improvements branch. Or do you have more experience with SVN to cure the problem? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 04:57:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> - <44FC828A.2060502@hemmecke.de> <87lkoz1hmt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <44FD430D.4020508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -6522,18 +6013,12 @@ Do you believe we cannot fix the other "binary" type files without restarting afresh (would have been much simpler if we did not have other branches)? --- gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Sep 2006 05:27:49 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: New Axiom release - Tim, would you release --patch-50 as a new version of Axiom? I would like to tell people, go and pick that tarball -- it is @@ -6542,21 +6027,11 @@ official release -- and build and install it. I would rather avoid "get CVS, tla, svn", and then figure out whether you make something out of it. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:34:23 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: SVN problems - <44FC6849.1070803@hemmecke.de> - <200609041757.k84Hv9H32683@localhost.localdomain> - <44FC828A.2060502@hemmecke.de> <87lkoz1hmt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <44FD430D.4020508@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > I'm not familiar with Antoine's branch to comment. @@ -6601,14 +6076,10 @@ from one branch to another? Before any change to the trunk is done. We should make clear that it would be the right procedure. -Ralf - - - \start -To: list Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:23:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: RE: cross-compiling Axiom There have been doubts here wether Lisp systems can be croos- @@ -6647,18 +6118,11 @@ Of course there are usual cross-compilation problems, for example (in GCL case) one must make sure that generated C code works both on host and target machine. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2006 08:11:42 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2006 08:11:42 -0500 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -6680,17 +6144,11 @@ now, we just need manpower to get there :-) Yes. That is tricky too since GCL uses some "non-standard" aspects of C. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:58:55 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:58:55 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 5, 2006 4:45 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -6774,19 +6232,11 @@ You (and they) are confusing porting an application with cross- compilation. There is nothing in the SBCL build process that cannot already be done using GCL - already is done on Debian. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:25:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -6820,17 +6270,11 @@ non-analytical and confrontational. That IS disppointing. Please either explain yourself or let's stop this nonsense. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:45:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Bill Page -Cc: list Just so I can see if I'm successfully following this or not, can I try and list a few points and see if I am understanding them correctly? @@ -6869,23 +6313,11 @@ with no compiling work done on the target system. Is that the distinction here Gaby? Doing 1 is NOT cross-compiling, while #2 is? And #2 is the one we currently cannot do? -Cheers, -Cliff - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:55:01 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:55:01 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 5, 2006 10:26 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -6972,16 +6404,11 @@ target when in the end the target must have the same environment, must be sufficiently powerful to run Axiom and must in any case be involved in the creation of the resulting program? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:04:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, C Y wrote: @@ -7051,17 +6478,11 @@ about the way we test GCC on targets we don't have access to). We need to convince Axiom to work with GNU toolchains -- that is what I've been spending time on so far. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:30:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -7166,27 +6587,11 @@ question that is at best a mischaracterization to begin with? sigh. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:35:58 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX -From: Jay Belanger - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87sljakpbk.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <873bbaq9j6.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87odtyotxr.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2otj3.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:35:58 -0500 - of "02 Sep 2006 16\:20\:00 -0500") -Cc: - Jay Belanger writes: @@ -7211,27 +6616,11 @@ I'll try to install the missing software in the user directories and try again to build Axiom on some of the machines, but alas that won't happen before next week. -Jay - - - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2006 14:26:21 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Jay Belanger Subject: re: Requiring LaTeX - <20060901210104.23943.qmail@web56712.mail.re3.yahoo.com> - - <87psefgmtw.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87mz9i85z9.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2qci0.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87sljakpbk.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <873bbaq9j6.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87odtyotxr.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <87lkp2otj3.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <87irk2upo1.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Sep 2006 14:26:21 -0500 -Cc: list Jay Belanger writes: @@ -7264,18 +6653,11 @@ anything, as data point of aspects of the world outside. Again, thanks for the time you invested in this. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:44:14 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: cross-compiling Axiom -Thread-Index: AcbRCLIDd3N5gCa3Qo6D5KBkPKYptgAITy8g From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:31 PM Gabriel Dos Reis > @@ -7491,22 +6873,12 @@ I believe that the presumptions of the question are accurate. 7) Why do you say: "you know that is not the case"? What part of what I wrote above do you think is not true? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:59:20 -0400 -Thread-Topic: NotebookWiki -Thread-Index: AcbRMM454ypSxAGoTNeEPhwjR1TyyQAFICog From: Bill Page To: Tom Boothby -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: NotebookWiki -Tom, - On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:18 PM you wrote: > > Recently, we've been discussing adapting the notebook to be @@ -7541,37 +6913,21 @@ there anyway you can make the NotebookWiki page accessible through port 80 or 443? Or would you mind if I proxied your site via the Apache web server at axiom-developer.org? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Boothby To: Bill Page - Antispam-Data: 2006.9.5.135942 - WEIRD_PORT 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, - __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, - __SANE_MSGID 0' -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: NotebookWiki Recently, we've been discussing adapting the notebook to be used by Axiom and other languages. I commented that I've been contemplating a fusion of the SAGE notebook, and the wiki idiom. I thought I'd have gotten around to this sooner, but I've finally posted my ideas to the SAGE wiki. This is by no means complete, but I want to get other people into the discussion early on. http://sage.math.washington.edu:9001/NotebookWiki - --tom - - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:13:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -Cc: list On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -7581,15 +6937,10 @@ Fine. I'll stopt it there; thanks for your time. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:16:35 -0700 -To: Bill Page, Tom Boothby From: William Stein -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Bill Page, Tom Boothby Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:59:20 -0700, Page, Bill Bill Page @@ -7622,25 +6973,11 @@ could do it. Please do and let me know the address. -Thanks! - - William - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:18:51 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Tom Boothby Subject: Re: NotebookWiki - Bill Page, - list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IR1Y5IvQhrKgS4e6" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - - ---IR1Y5IvQhrKgS4e6 Tom Boothby [Tom Boothby] wrote: > Recently, we've been discussing adapting the notebook to be used by Axiom @@ -7680,35 +7017,12 @@ I've tried various ideas using netcat, and similar tools to pipe command line interfaces over HTTP, but to no success (so far). But, perhaps it can still be done... --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. - Carl Sagan - ---IR1Y5IvQhrKgS4e6 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFE/hPrjwioWRGe9K0RAuftAJ9juheq9toJcoslUzQqDJ4MDDgUowCdHpqZ -nbP+RdWaWIL+MTL0GDBTLIw= -=lCvs ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---IR1Y5IvQhrKgS4e6-- - - - \start -Subject: RE: NotebookWiki Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:19:03 -0400 -Thread-Topic: NotebookWiki -Thread-Index: AcbRShCXy8mGOT2QTSuH6nRKSnrtXgAAdvuA From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: Tom Boothby, list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: NotebookWiki +Cc: Tom Boothby On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:19 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > @@ -7794,33 +7108,21 @@ it. I definitely would not want to go that route. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:11:55 -0700 -To: Bill Page From: William Stein -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Bill Page Subject: Hopefully stupid question -Hi, -This may be a very stupid question. Does Axiom support OS X (Intel) in -any way, -either building from source or from pre-compiled binaries? Or is Axiom -Windows and -Linux only? For at least the next few weeks, I'm using OS X full time for -working -on SAGE, and the first step toward writing an Axiom interface is to -install Axiom. -However, when I search the Axiom web site and the download links, I can't -find -anything about using it with OS X. Morever, the tarball (the "gold" -version from Sept 05) -says it doesn't know anything about Darwin: +This may be a very stupid question. Does Axiom support OS X (Intel) +in any way, either building from source or from pre-compiled binaries? +Or is Axiom Windows and Linux only? For at least the next few weeks, +I'm using OS X full time for working on SAGE, and the first step +toward writing an Axiom interface is to install Axiom. However, when +I search the Axiom web site and the download links, I can't find +anything about using it with OS X. Morever, the tarball (the "gold" +version from Sept 05) says it doesn't know anything about Darwin: "Finished extraction Darwin @@ -7833,21 +7135,12 @@ Should I get a certain recent cvs snapshot? Note -- if Axiom is Linux only this isn't a show stopper, since I can just write the interface under Linux. I just want to know. - -- William - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:12:43 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki -Thread-Index: AcbRScPdOqTBevZXR0+UgAl4HM0wmgADEIDg From: Bill Page To: William Stein -Cc: Tom Boothby, list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki +Cc: Tom Boothby On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM William Stein wrote: > On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:59:20 -0700, Bill Page wrote: @@ -7930,18 +7223,11 @@ http://sage-notebook.axiom-developer.org Both of these work fine through my firewall. -Regards, -Bill page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:13:59 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: William Stein Subject: Re: Hopefully stupid question - -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net The problem is that I've been unable to get the port to work. I've narrowed it down to the fact that I probably installed Fink wrong. @@ -7949,18 +7235,11 @@ I'm not a MAC user by trade so it's hard for me. There is no fundamental reason why it won't work it's just that the MAC environment is so foreign to me that I keep getting tripped up. -Tim - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:44:32 -0700 +From: William Stein To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Hopefully stupid question -From: William Stein - - <200609060213.k862DxO12247@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:13:59 -0700, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -7980,30 +7259,20 @@ Why do you need fink for building axiom? Probably you just need the latest Xcode install (it's a very good idea to get the latest version, since there were very annoying bugs in earlier versions). - -- William - - - \start Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:42:09 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: William Stein Subject: Re: Hopefully stupid question - - <200609060213.k862DxO12247@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net first i've heard of Xcode, got a URL? --t - - \start +Date: 05 Sep 2006 23:50:39 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 05 Sep 2006 23:50:39 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! @@ -8233,35 +7502,11 @@ this thus far. I think one can reduce the problem down to cross-compiling C code produced by gcl/axiom running interpreted. -Take care, - -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:47:47 -0700 -To: Justin Walker, list -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question From: William Stein - - <200609060213.k862DxO12247@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609060242.k862g9x12269@localhost.localdomain> - <857239FD-2BBD-4016-AE75-3210061A8A9D@mac.com> -Cc: SAGE SAGE Development +To: Justin Walker +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:41:57 -0700, Justin C. Walker Justin Walker wrote: @@ -8299,17 +7544,11 @@ You might consider "turning off" fink when doing the Axiom port to avoid confusion, e.g., move /sw to /sw.orig, at least assuming that Axiom doesn't depend on packages you only get via fink. - -- William - - - \start -From: Justin Walker -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:41:57 -0700 +From: Justin Walker To: list -Cc: SAGE SAGE Development - +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question On Sep 5, 2006, at 19:42 , root wrote: @@ -8333,30 +7572,11 @@ significant. The problem both projects are solving by doing this is to keep dependencies out of the mix, so it's hard to fault them; it's just that the disk space used can get large. -Regards, - -Justin - --- -Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large -Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds --------- -If you're not confused, -You're not paying attention --------- - - - - - - \start +Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:05:05 -0700 From: Justin Walker +To: list Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question -Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:05:05 -0700 -To: SAGE Development -Cc: list - On Sep 5, 2006, at 21:47 , William Stein wrote: @@ -8408,29 +7628,12 @@ Absolutely. If you are developing something to put into SAGE, you local"). Since most users of SAGE will be missing at least one of these, the dependencies will cause SAGE to break on Mac OS X. -Justin - --- -Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large -Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income --------- -Experience is what you get - when you don't get what you want. --------- - - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:18:21 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 05 Sep 2006 23:50:39 -0400) Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom - <54d5a9ejqo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Nothing AFAICT in the existing build framework. I just want to > mention that GCL unlike some other lisp systems supports both an @@ -8468,43 +7671,22 @@ Java is interesting only because you can portably do networking, graphics, database, etc. Lisp is missing the fundamental support hooks to build these libraries. -Just my opinion. - -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:24:26 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: William Stein Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question - - <200609060213.k862DxO12247@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609060242.k862g9x12269@localhost.localdomain> - <857239FD-2BBD-4016-AE75-3210061A8A9D@mac.com> - -Cc: Justin Walker, list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - -William, +Cc: Justin Walker So SAGE is using Xcode and not Fink? Thus it would help future compatibility if I used Xcode? -t - - - \start +Date: 06 Sep 2006 06:22:18 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom - <54d5a9ejqo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200609060918.k869ILT12729@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Sep 2006 06:22:18 -0500 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Tim Daly writes: @@ -8523,18 +7705,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: Indeed. While I was messing myself with src/interp, I stumbled over it two days ago and I find it useful. --- Gaby - - - \start -From: Justin Walker -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:44:13 -0700 +From: Justin Walker To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, - SAGE SAGE Development - +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question On Sep 6, 2006, at 02:24 , root wrote: @@ -8563,36 +7738,12 @@ need to "use Xcode". I hope that is both clearer, and not too pedantic. -Regards, - -Justin - --- -Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large -Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ------------ -I'm beginning to like the cut of his jibberish. ------------ - - - - - - \start +Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:30:28 -0700 +From: William Stein To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Hopefully stupid question -From: William Stein - - <200609060213.k862DxO12247@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609060242.k862g9x12269@localhost.localdomain> - <857239FD-2BBD-4016-AE75-3210061A8A9D@mac.com> - - <200609060924.k869OQ312743@localhost.localdomain> -Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:30:28 -0700 -Cc: Justin Walker, list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +Cc: Justin Walker On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:24:26 -0700, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -8605,18 +7756,12 @@ Correct. Building all of SAGE from source has 0 dependency on Fink or Darwin Ports. All it requires is a few of the compiler tools in XCode. -William - - - \start +Date: 06 Sep 2006 12:37:34 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: cross-compiling Axiom - <54d5a9ejqo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200609060918.k869ILT12729@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Sep 2006 12:37:34 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! @@ -8699,31 +7844,10 @@ forever, I'm grateful. Speaking of networking -- a Debian user just found a bug in our socket code which has now been fixed in cvs, in case you want to update. -Take care, - - -> Just my opinion. -> -> t -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:44:20 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) -Thread-Index: AcbRywvanwubnZDIQP+us0qJBmqnJgABxgKw From: Bill Page To: Justin Walker -Cc: list, - SAGE SAGE Development Subject: Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) On Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:44 AM Justin C. Walker wrote: @@ -8766,19 +7890,11 @@ If both Xcope and Fink are installed, since this is a shared server with no root access can you recommend a procedure that will ensure that I do not inherit any Fink dependencies? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Justin Walker Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:11:49 -0700 +From: Justin Walker To: Bill Page -Cc: list, - SAGE Development -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) On Sep 6, 2006, at 09:44 , Page, Bill wrote: @@ -8844,27 +7960,10 @@ problems with SAGE; ask here for help if things go sour. I can try building things for you on my 10.4 systems if you want to verify that they work on a more recent system. -Hope that helps. - -Justin - --- -Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large -Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ------------ -I'm beginning to like the cut of his jibberish. ------------ - - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Sep 2006 13:49:35 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB Greetings! @@ -8932,32 +8031,12 @@ I think you want (null (pathname-name (truename filearg))) or (and (directory filearg) (not (probe-file filearg))) -Take care, - -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:04:50 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB -Thread-Index: AcbR3NYwafORayM9SK2Urjn9dqPQkwAAHKmA From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: RE: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB -Camm, - On Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:50 PM you wrote: > > Bill Page writes: @@ -9011,19 +8090,12 @@ But I don't know the semantics of 1) at all, and having consulted the lisp docs as deeply as possible, I am still not sure. What exactly does expression 1) do on GCL? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Vadim V. Zhytnikov - <44FACBFC.30106@mail.ru> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Sep 2006 14:10:17 -0400 -Cc: Maxima list , list, - Robert Dodier +From: Camm Maguire +To: Vadim V. Zhytnikov Subject: Re: [Maxima] Maxima 5.10.0 release candidate 3 +Cc: Robert Dodier Greetings! Just checked out wxmaxima, and was wondering if an interface to wxwindows from lisp would be useful/desirable. @@ -9053,39 +8125,13 @@ Vadim V. Zhytnikov writes: > > One small question - not all files in share/lbfgs > are packaged to rc3 tarball. Intentionally? -> -> With best regards, -> -> Vadim -> -> -- -> Vadim V. Zhytnikov -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Maxima mailing list -> Maxima@math.utexas.edu -> http://www.math.utexas.edu/mailman/listinfo/maxima -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Camm Maguire, Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Graphics and GCL - ---- Camm Maguire wrote: +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Otherwise, I am at a loss as to what would constitute a good solution > here. We could get an interface to wxwindows pretty easily, but what @@ -9095,24 +8141,12 @@ Camm, just so we know, what would be involved with getting McCLIM working on GCL? Has this been tried in recent history? I guess on a related note, does asdf work in the ANSI image now? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -To: Cliff Yapp -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Sep 2006 18:14:19 -0400 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Camm Maguire +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Graphics and GCL - -Greetings! +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -9141,25 +8175,11 @@ Take care, > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:26:58 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki -Thread-Index: AcbR8AY2xbI9pJEtQOarxIvhTbG76AABWoPg From: Bill Page -To: "David Harvey" , - Tom Boothby -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: David Harvey, Tom Boothby Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki On September 06, 2006 8:54 AM David Harvey wrote: @@ -9326,19 +8346,10 @@ of system, we might still be able to take advantage this technology. I am glad that it is being considered and developed for Sage. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:20:23 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki -Thread-Index: AcbR8AY2xbI9pJEtQOarxIvhTbG76AABWoPgAASfK9A= From: Bill Page -To: "David Harvey" , - Tom Boothby -Cc: list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: David Harvey, Tom Boothby Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki On Wednesday, September 06, 2006 6:27 PM I wrote: @@ -9396,29 +8407,12 @@ http://www.mathsnet.net/mathview/index.html I know there are more, both commercial and open source projects. I'll have to look back through my notes. -Comments? - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:44:37 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: [SAGEdev] NotebookWiki - David Harvey , Tom Boothby, - list, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: Tom Boothby, David Harvey , - list, sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - - ---0F1p//8PRICkK4MW +Cc: Tom Boothby, David Harvey, AAAAAHHHHH!!!!! NNNOOOOOOOO!!!! @@ -9454,36 +8448,12 @@ reduce the set of languages. Thereby we reduce the knowledge set needed to contribute to Axiom. Latex and pamphlets are two that are not going away. I think we should head for a pamphlet-based wiki instead. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. - Carl Sagan - ---0F1p//8PRICkK4MW - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFE/11ljwioWRGe9K0RAuFcAKDPP6YaBYRsX2clyrAeMLirzUHYFQCfZLbc -69uJHhiLaWsTC36qzLEac7Y= -=KNX0 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:09:35 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) -Thread-Index: AcbR13pLYjUuT2fKQAm/FNilvsstWwAQLhog From: Bill Page To: Justin Walker -Cc: waqar@opendarwin.org, Camm Maguire, - William Stein, list -Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: waqar@opendarwin.org, Camm Maguire, William Stein On Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:12 PM Justin C. Walker wrote: > >> ... @@ -9525,26 +8495,13 @@ I wonder if the DarwinPorts GCL maintainer: 'waqar' would be willig to give us some insight into the ease or difficulty of porting GCL what might also apply to Axiom? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Graphics and GCL +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis ---- Camm Maguire wrote: - -> Greetings! - -Hello yourself :-). - > > Camm, just so we know, what would be involved with getting McCLIM > > working on GCL? Has this been tried in recent history? I guess on > > a related note, does asdf work in the ANSI image now? @@ -9562,29 +8519,15 @@ I'm afraid that no such event is likely :-(. Ah, well - I'll have a go and see if it compiles, at least. -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -From: Waqar Malik Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:42:15 -0500 +From: Waqar Malik To: Bill Page -Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, - Camm Maguire, waqar@opendarwin.org, - list -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, Camm Maguire, Waqar Malik -Hi, - I be glad to help with Axiom, but I have not used Axiom, so I have -not tried -to compile it. +I be glad to help with Axiom, but I have not used Axiom, so I have not +tried to compile it. Couple of things to remember about gcl port, I have not updated to the latest release (2.6.7) and I have not compiled it on Intel @@ -9597,25 +8540,13 @@ On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Page, Bill wrote: > I wonder if the DarwinPorts GCL maintainer: 'waqar' would be willig > to give us some insight into the ease or difficulty of porting GCL > what might also apply to Axiom? -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:24:28 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) -Thread-Index: AcbSi9YxRpdTi1vATcyXiJ2CzK5BZQAA9IIg From: Bill Page -To: "Waqar Malik" -Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, - Camm Maguire, waqar@opendarwin.org, - list -Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +To: Waqar Malik +Subject: RE: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, Camm Maguire On Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:42 AM Waqar Malik wrote: @@ -9653,15 +8584,10 @@ suggestions, please let me know. Thanks again, and "Welcome aboard!" :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: list -From: Kai Kaminski Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:26:02 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski +To: list Subject: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Hi, @@ -9754,20 +8680,12 @@ versions of itself, and make it available over a socket using a simple (in every programming language) clear-text protocol. Done. Sooner or later someone will write a GUI then. - -Kai - - - \start -From: Waqar Malik Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:43:48 -0500 +From: Waqar Malik To: Bill Page -Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, - Camm Maguire, waqar@opendarwin.org, - list -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Justin Walker, William Stein, Camm Maguire Ok, I looked at the page, and to build it seems pretty simple, since it uses configure script., If you want to you can install MacPorts @@ -9813,20 +8731,12 @@ On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Page, Bill wrote: > suggestions, please let me know. > > Thanks again, and "Welcome aboard!" :-) -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:45:48 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 07 Sep 2006 17:26:02 +0200) Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -Cc: list > I do not see any reason why a GUI for Axiom has to be written in > Lisp. Why not write a GUI for Axiom in Python or Java or C++? Why does @@ -9850,19 +8760,12 @@ graphics portion of Axiom and make it run everywhere. I need a lisp program that can open a window on Linux and Windows and draw a colored line using common code. Surely this must be possible. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:47:36 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Cc: Justin Walker, waqar@opendarwin.org, Camm Maguire, William Stein, - wmalloc@gmail.com, list -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Justin Walker, Waqar Malik Camm Maguire, William Stein, Waqar Malik > It should be possible to build Axiom using the older version > of GCL. @@ -9872,18 +8775,11 @@ Just set the GCLVERSION variable to match the GCL version, put the gcl-version.tgz file in zips, set the AXIOM shell variable, and type make. -t - - - \start -Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:58:31 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -Thread-Index: AcbSkfrw0a0+hvXXTcyFSQO4mBoZUwAAWYWw From: Bill Page -To: "Kai Kaminski" -Cc: list +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Kai, @@ -9957,23 +8853,11 @@ I think that if we can graft these methods into the Lisp side of AXIOMsys, then we would be in a very good position when "Sooner or later someone writes the next GUI application". -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:17:25 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom - list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8a48p4KKsB+A/3VY" - clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list - - ---8a48p4KKsB+A/3VY As far as drawing graphs, why not just dump out a graph in any kind of portable format (e.g. postscript, pdf, svg, etc). A front-end can parse @@ -10024,33 +8908,12 @@ Kai Kaminski [Kai Kaminski] wrote: > (in every programming language) clear-text protocol. Done. Sooner or > later someone will write a GUI then. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. - Carl Sagan - ---8a48p4KKsB+A/3VY - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFFAEYVjwioWRGe9K0RAuhNAJ90K3gr7TTrRTe7+ZPiFUZUTxUi6wCeMSGh -mEvH48hFle3pllzaddH8Gaw= -=wZIO ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---8a48p4KKsB+A/3VY-- - - - \start +Date: 07 Sep 2006 11:44:01 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom - <200609071545.k87FjmU13729@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Sep 2006 11:44:01 -0500 -Cc: Kai Kaminski, list +Cc: Kai Kaminski Tim Daly writes: @@ -10069,19 +8932,12 @@ some C programmers say the same for Lisp... There are viable, well-supported GUI out there. QT is a good option... (supported on windows, mac, unix/linux boxes). - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:53:02 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -Thread-Index: AcbSlfejddJ9nsohQXC0LwoIRX9LSQABxRKg From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom +Cc: Kai Kaminski On Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:46 AM Tim Daly wrote: > ... @@ -10097,21 +8953,11 @@ some standard common lisp packages and runs on Clisp in Linux. But on our first (and only) attempt neither Kai nor I were able to get it to run on Windows. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:25:34 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -Thread-Index: AcbSnx0PKYLA6TzvTa2C1Cx1saYdpgAAMiZQ From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list - -Alfredo, +Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom On Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:00 PM you asked: @@ -10136,19 +8982,11 @@ ml http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2005-09/msg00064.ht ml -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:42:46 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom - <200609071545.k87FjmU13729@localhost.localdomain> -From: Kai Kaminski - of "Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:45:48 -0400") -Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:42:46 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -10189,16 +9027,11 @@ calls the WISH interpreter, which is part of Tk. Changing that should be easy enough, but GCL chokes on some conditions-related stuff. I'll take a closer look. -Kai - - - \start +Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:43:05 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: list Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -From: Kai Kaminski - 07 Sep 2006 17:26:02 +0200") -Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:43:05 +0200 Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -10243,18 +9076,12 @@ http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2004/008303.html Argues for a clear separation of the GUI from the computational engine. -Kai - - - \start -From: Justin Walker Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:55:25 -0700 +From: Justin Walker To: Bill Page -Cc: Camm Maguire, William Stein, - list, waqar@opendarwin.org -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Camm Maguire, William Stein, Wagar Malik Sorry for the delay in replying. @@ -10276,31 +9103,11 @@ anything from DarwinPorts itself. Since Waqar is now involved, this may be a moot point :-} -Justin - --- -Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large -Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ------------ -My wife 'n kids 'n dogs are gone, -I can't get Jesus on the phone, -But Ol' Milwaukee's Best is my best friend. ------------ - - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:47:03 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 07 Sep 2006 20:42:46 +0200) Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom - <200609071545.k87FjmU13729@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > This comment begs the question though, why displaying graphics > shouldn't be the responsibility of the GUI. @@ -10312,16 +9119,11 @@ directly, it's called viewAlone). I need to port viewAlone to many platforms. *MY* preference is to do it in lisp. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:59:15 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: list Subject: Re: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -From: Kai Kaminski - "Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:17:25 -0700") Bob McElrath writes: @@ -10342,10 +9144,6 @@ axis etc. As for the GUI, different people will prefer different plotters (layout, output formats, ...). -Kai - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -10432,25 +9230,12 @@ off of the same API some day.) 4. Code counts more than opinions, so I'll be quiet until I have more of the former ;-). -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -To: Waqar Malik - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:58:46 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waqar Malik +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet Greetings! I take it this discussion is regarding OSX support. Great! @@ -10471,7 +9256,7 @@ haven't gotten around to asking about it. Take care, -Waqar Malik writes: +Waqar Malik writes: > Ok, I looked at the page, and to build it seems pretty simple, since > it uses configure script., If you want to you can install MacPorts @@ -10517,29 +9302,12 @@ Waqar Malik writes: > > suggestions, please let me know. > > > > Thanks again, and "Welcome aboard!" :-) -> > -> > Regards, -> > Bill Page. -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start -Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:05:55 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom -Thread-Index: AcbSr7pDiJzPJ6sYS+GoNNgmbnwSeQAAPiCQ From: Bill Page -To: "Kai Kaminski" -Cc: list +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Lisp GUI libraries and a UI for Axiom > Bob McElrath writes: > @@ -10657,20 +9425,12 @@ software development! Anyway, I wonder if having taken him apart, we could somehow manage to put humpty-dumpty back together again? :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 17:16:10 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB -Greetings! - Bill Page writes: > Camm, @@ -10763,33 +9523,13 @@ Take care, > But I don't know the semantics of 1) at all, and having > consulted the lisp docs as deeply as possible, I am still > not sure. What exactly does expression 1) do on GCL? -> - - - -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start -To: Camm Maguire -Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) - - <54hczjwfzt.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:18:17 -0500 -Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Waqar Malik, Aurelien Chanudet Camm Maguire writes: @@ -10803,16 +9543,11 @@ Yes, I'm wondering why they are kept in GCL and not put in upstream. I would suspect that binutils maintainers would be glad to have them. Could you say more about the issues around its non-presence in upstream? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:24:48 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:24:48 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -10870,35 +9605,12 @@ does Windows count as a tool? :-) | off of the same API some day.) | 4. Code counts more than opinions, so I'll be quiet until I have more | of the former ;-). -| -| Cheers, -| CY -| -| __________________________________________________ -| Do You Yahoo!? -| Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -| http://mail.yahoo.com -| -| -| _______________________________________________ -| Axiom-developer mailing list -| list -| http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- - Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis - Texas A&M University -- Department of Computer Science - 301, Bright Building -- College Station, TX 77843-3112 - - \start +Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:26:20 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:26:20 -0500 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -10920,19 +9632,11 @@ Does Windows count as a tool? :-) | Mathematica environments, but perhaps with more or different | functionality. -Agreed. - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:48:12 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:48:12 +0200 - message of "Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT)") -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -11061,15 +9765,11 @@ package on Axiom's website featuring a specific GUI. What I'm after is independence. Axiom's main branch should contain no GUI-related code other than the implementation of the Axiom<->GUI protocol. - - \start +Date: 07 Sep 2006 17:08:50 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Sep 2006 17:08:50 -0500 -Cc: list Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -11083,21 +9783,12 @@ Kai Kaminski writes: I agree with that. If you can sell it to the powers, I would be happy to lend a helping hand. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:08:34 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB -Thread-Index: AcbSwtukvylhAA5TTtaxPUtQ1kWaTAABGQfw From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: Cannot Rename The File Erlib To NRLIB -Camm, - On Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:16 PM you wrote: > ... > I think we might still be deviating from the spec on directory a @@ -11125,20 +9816,12 @@ http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2005-07/msg01699 convinces me that your suggestion is the best idea so far! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: Waqar Malik Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:09:06 -0500 +From: Waqar Malik To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) - +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:58 PM, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -11172,7 +9855,7 @@ differences in number and kind of ports. > > Take care, > -> Waqar Malik writes: +> Waqar Malik writes: > >> Ok, I looked at the page, and to build it seems pretty simple, since >> it uses configure script., If you want to you can install MacPorts @@ -11219,30 +9902,12 @@ differences in number and kind of ports. >>> suggestions, please let me know. >>> >>> Thanks again, and "Welcome aboard!" :-) ->>> ->>> Regards, ->>> Bill Page. ->> ->> ->> ->> -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ====================================================================== -> ==== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI To: Kai Kaminski -Cc: list +Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI Hey Kai! We never seem to overlap on IRC, do we? ;-) Sorry about that - I need xchat to make a noise when someone sends a message to me. @@ -11436,29 +10101,12 @@ branch, and have a ./configure --without-gui option if one doesn't want it. When I type .configure make make install and then run "axiom" I would kind of expect the GUI to be the default. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) - - <54hczjwfzt.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87irjzl6jq.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 22:01:19 -0400 -Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Waqar Malik, Aurelien Chanudet Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -11479,25 +10127,10 @@ I think it is simple lack of followup on my part with the binutils developers. If you would like to isolate the patch and craft an email, that would be most helpful! -Take care, - - -> -- Gaby -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start -To: list Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 04:41:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Build-improvements - noweb required? Building build-improvements branch fails without alredy installed @@ -11506,18 +10139,11 @@ proceeds further. But the Makefile variable TANGLE is unset, which causes build failure before building noweb (in fact, it looks that noweb is not built at all). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 08 Sep 2006 02:57:17 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Sep 2006 02:57:17 -0500 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11530,18 +10156,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: which platform is this on? Please, could you send the build log to axiom-testresults@lists.sf.net so that I can have a look at it? -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:01:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -11573,20 +10192,11 @@ Done that and got: Hope you can see it. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:13:44 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI - <878xkvjpn1.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:13:44 +0200 - of "07 Sep 2006 17:08:50 -0500") -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -11611,16 +10221,11 @@ cases, etc. Furthermore I'll try to document those parts of Axiom that are directly related to this effort (plotting code, database access, documentation access, access to the interpreter/compiler etc). -Kai - - - \start +Date: 08 Sep 2006 06:20:00 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Sep 2006 06:20:00 -0500 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11662,16 +10267,11 @@ this, please? Waldek, please send me (gdr at acm.org) the config.log from the build directory. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:55:58 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:55:58 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -11993,19 +10593,11 @@ try to find a common ground. How about the following: this feature/configure the port/etc. -Kai - - - \start +Date: 08 Sep 2006 16:25:48 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Sep 2006 16:25:48 +0200 -Cc: list - -Hi Kai! Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -12045,18 +10637,12 @@ distribution) (you have to have tex4ht installed, of course) -Martin - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:55:43 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Tim Daly Subject: RE: Build-improvements - noweb required? -Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:55:43 -0400 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Tim, did you change the password on the 'Axiom-testresults' email list? @@ -12163,19 +10749,12 @@ and approve messages such as the one from Waldek. Let me know if you have any problems with this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:16:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Build-improvements - noweb required? -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -12249,25 +10828,14 @@ point earlier. and I don't know what others are. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Waqar Malik - - <54hczjwfzt.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Sep 2006 12:15:13 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet -Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully - stupid question) - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waqar Malik +Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet -Waqar Malik writes: +Waqar Malik writes: > On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:58 PM, Camm Maguire wrote: > @@ -12317,7 +10885,7 @@ Take care, > > > > Take care, > > -> > Waqar Malik writes: +> > Waqar Malik writes: > > > >> Ok, I looked at the page, and to build it seems pretty simple, since > >> it uses configure script., If you want to you can install MacPorts @@ -12362,40 +10930,12 @@ Take care, > >>> > >>> to find out more about Axiom. If you have any questions and/or > >>> suggestions, please let me know. -> >>> -> >>> Thanks again, and "Welcome aboard!" :-) -> >>> -> >>> Regards, -> >>> Bill Page. -> >> -> >> -> >> -> >> -> > -> > -- -> > Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> > ====================================================================== -> > ==== -> > "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- -> > Baha'u'llah -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:23:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI To: Kai Kaminski -Cc: list +Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI --- Kai Kaminski wrote: > > What we should expose to GUIs and how is probably somewhat @@ -12494,27 +11034,15 @@ Yes. Definitely. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:12:45 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Kai Kaminski Subject: Tectonic shift +Cc: Kai Kaminski GUI issues are fine but unrelated to my original goal. - - I see a tectonic shift in the computational math area (at least from my limited view of the world). @@ -12555,18 +11083,12 @@ So I'm looking for a lisp package that can draw colored lines get both input and output thru the window I can build the ideas envisioned above. -t - - - - \start -Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? -To: Bill Page Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:13:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Waldek Hebisch, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Build-improvements - noweb required? +Cc: Waldek Hebisch, Gabriel Dos Reis Bill Page wrote: > Gaby, I have seen this same problem recently while trying @@ -12595,22 +11117,12 @@ I tried that, however still a lot of breakage remains: 3) in interp directory build fails at first step -- again looks like unset `$TANGLE' is unset (missing export somewhere ???) --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Sep 2006 17:06:32 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Build-improvements - config.log - -Hi, - [...] | configure:2934: checking for notangle @@ -12629,15 +11141,12 @@ However, this is not right. It is the consequence of a bogus logic I knew of but failed to fix before commit. It is now fixed. Sorry for that. - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 04:19:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Build-improvements - config.log +Cc: Waldek Hebisch > It is now fixed. Sorry for that. @@ -12669,17 +11178,10 @@ Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. cmpinclude.h is present in /usr/lib/gcl-2.6.7/h --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:25:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list Subject: Re: Build-improvements - config.log On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -12722,31 +11224,20 @@ might want to add --without-gcl when configuring Axiom. The above GCL bug is quite intriguing and curious. I hope to have a fix for it before 2.6.8 is shipped. -Thanks for your patience. - --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:51:41 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - Has anyone run that file successfully through latex? --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 05:53:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Build-improvements --witout-gcl +Cc: Waldek Hebisch > On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -12803,19 +11294,10 @@ checking for useable bfd_boolean... no Guessing path to libbfd.a due to gcc bug ... - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:05:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list Subject: Re: Build-improvements --witout-gcl On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -12851,16 +11333,11 @@ the system-installed GCL to find its own include header. Many thanks for your patience and help. I'll keep you updated. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:13:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -Cc: list On 09/10/2006 05:51 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Has anyone run that file successfully through latex? @@ -12885,16 +11362,11 @@ latex DN.tex So what exactly is your problem??? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:16:32 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -Cc: list Hello, @@ -12916,18 +11388,13 @@ Ralf On 09/10/2006 05:51 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Has anyone run that file successfully through latex? -> -> -- Gaby - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:08:53 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 10 Sep 2006 12:16:32 +0200) Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > I have just realised that the file src/doc/axiom.sty.pamphlet > (build-improvements) contains noweb.sty in full. A quick look at it lets @@ -12968,17 +11435,12 @@ consistently translate axiom pamphlet files. This is similar to the policy of places like the AMS or Universities creating their own style files. -t - - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Tim Daly, Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: \begin{chunk} +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -13028,24 +11490,12 @@ features as they are introduced and see what the impact would be in including them with Axiom, but I think a layer if insulation between Axiom and those changes is probably a good thing. - -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:32:00 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:35:02 -0700 (PDT)) -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > > There are axiom-specific latex tags. This is likely to increase > > rather than decrease. This should be expected as we depend more @@ -13092,18 +11542,12 @@ easiest language to learn. I wouldn't worry about the change. ummm, I'm unsure of how to handle optional tags in environments but I'll keep it on the design list. -t - - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:09:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly - <200609101332.k8ADW0t24337@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 09/10/2006 03:32 PM, root wrote: >>> There are axiom-specific latex tags. This is likely to increase @@ -13175,16 +11619,11 @@ should focus on more urgent matters. Noweb syntax isn't too hard to learn. Do whatever you like. It is open source after all. But I am really not convinced that a syntax change should happen now. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:14:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -13220,17 +11659,11 @@ which confuses latex in many places. etc. My question was whether anybody actually tried to typeset that file successfully. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:16:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200609101108.k8AB8rv24282@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -13245,19 +11678,11 @@ On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, root wrote: The issue is what do you do when people already have noweb installed. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:22:06 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:16:58 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200609101108.k8AB8rv24282@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > I have just realised that the file src/doc/axiom.sty.pamphlet > | > (build-improvements) contains noweb.sty in full. A quick look at it lets @@ -13272,17 +11697,11 @@ Cc: list Since we don't use noweb.sty anywhere why is this an issue? -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:34:01 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - -Cc: list [snip] @@ -13326,19 +11745,12 @@ number of times how often you need to run latex, but running latex 3 times is often too much and sometimes you even have to run latex more than that. (There can even be cases where the output doesn't stabilise.) -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:37:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200609101108.k8AB8rv24282@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609101422.k8AEM6e24363@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On 09/10/2006 04:22 PM, root wrote: >> | > I have just realised that the file src/doc/axiom.sty.pamphlet @@ -13359,19 +11771,11 @@ will probably adjust noweb.sty accordingly. If we still run an old copy (which is stored inside axiom.sty (so we are using noweb.sty)) then we are in trouble. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:37:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200609101108.k8AB8rv24282@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609101422.k8AEM6e24363@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -13402,17 +11806,11 @@ suggestion was to say (see Ralf's message) my question is then why is it excepted that all of that works at all? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:42:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <45042259.3090401@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -13457,21 +11855,11 @@ yes, I know. Thanks. that is what they are if you have a look at the Makefiles. -Thanks. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:59:05 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - - <45042259.3090401@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > | > My question was whether anybody actually tried to typeset that file > | > successfully. @@ -13489,19 +11877,11 @@ saying that is wrong in some places? If you want I'll sent it to you so that you could check. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:56:50 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:42:40 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <45042259.3090401@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > | By the way, I rather think that latexing files should not be done by > | "document" but rather by some well designed Makefile logic. @@ -13521,18 +11901,11 @@ In general the user will not have a makefile for any given document file and will need a command to extract the file in the necessary form. -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:41:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <45042259.3090401@hemmecke.de> - <45042839.4050406@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -13546,21 +11919,11 @@ OK, that is good to know. I'll pose a bit and go back to dig where the real error started. Obviously, I've been into this for too long to see what is hapening :-/ -Thanks for your help. - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:47:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <45042259.3090401@hemmecke.de> - - <200609101456.k8AEuov24393@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -13582,18 +11945,12 @@ accurate on build-improvements than on trunk :-). Based on input from Ralf, I start suspecting mic-macs with the axiom.sty and friends. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke, Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} - ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > There is also the "listings" LaTeX package which should be > considered. @@ -13675,21 +12032,10 @@ it right. Does allprose fix this? Tim said not to worry, so I won't ;-). I just wanted to make sure we didn't need to start working on mmm-mode now. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:10:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, C Y wrote: @@ -13713,17 +12059,12 @@ anti-abstraction. All the examples in are typset with fancyvrb. --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:28:56 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis >> Maybe you have also realised that noweb offers a way to make >> clickable code out of the code chunks. See the ALLPROSE @@ -13811,17 +12152,11 @@ have this strange problem and add the moment for the places where the colours get wrong I add "%$" on a new line right after the closing @ of a chunk. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 10 Sep 2006 14:18:03 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Sep 2006 14:18:03 -0500 -Cc: list - Putting the developer notes aside, the new document script uncovers a latex problem in src/algebra/transsolve.spad.pamphlet. The error @@ -13851,18 +12186,11 @@ The pmaphlet line was I don't know whether that has been corrected on trunk or not (I've checked yet). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:15:37 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 10 Sep 2006 14:18:03 -0500) Subject: Re: DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <87d5a38r9w.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -Cc: list > The pmaphlet line was > @@ -13873,17 +12201,11 @@ Cc: list fixed in --patch-50 which is current 'gold'. -t - - - \start +Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:51:42 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "'Kai Kaminski'" +To: Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: A Canonical Axiom GUI -Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:51:42 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: > ... @@ -14213,25 +12535,12 @@ But I think that for Axiom we can do even better than that and accommodate many other kinds of information such as Axiom types, graphics data, and Axiom database (daase) queries. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page, Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: A Canonical Axiom GUI -To: Bill Page, - 'Kai Kaminski' -Cc: list ---- Bill Page wrote: > I do appreciate the sentiment in Kai's remark, which he indicates > we should take as humour. But I am worried that some people who are @@ -14352,22 +12661,10 @@ really. Kai and I are trying to put our heads together and come up with something a little more useful to do than argue about GUI issues, so I at least will turn this discussion back to the real experts :-). -Cheers, -CY - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -To: axiom-math , list -From: Martin Rubey Date: 11 Sep 2006 12:04:25 +0200 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: list Subject: evaluator for functional equations / CHALLENGE! Dear all! @@ -14405,17 +12702,10 @@ equations. Price is negotiable. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:06:00 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: Re: \begin{chunk} Hello @@ -14486,18 +12776,12 @@ But note that you are writing for a paper journal and you only give program snippets. I would like links from a usage of an identifier to its definition. Just suppose you have all the pamphlets online as html. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:26:12 -0500 -From: "Jacob Smith" Jaroslov Rosenberger +From: Jaroslov Rosenberger To: list -Cc: Jacob Smith Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: axiom.silver - -Howdy, +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis I've just attempted to svn checkout the axiom.silver branch. I had two errors: (1) the checkout appeared to fail, (2) the configure file @@ -14548,18 +12832,12 @@ We do not know how to build for this kind of system Send a note to list about it ******************************************* -thank you, -Jacob Smith - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:00:19 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Jaroslov Rosenberger - (Jaroslov Rosenberger) Subject: Re: axiom.silver -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis > The error from the configure is this: > ******************************************* @@ -14574,17 +12852,12 @@ Actually, this is correct. I do not yet know how to build Axiom on a MAC. There has been a recent suggestion that we use Xcode and I'm pursuing that path. -Tim - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:25:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <200609111600.k8BG0J925189@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -14616,19 +12889,12 @@ build-improvements available from axiom-developer.org or from SF (whichever is OK with you). This is to remove the "random" checkout errors. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:22:01 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:25:30 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <200609111600.k8BG0J925189@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger > From what I understand, Bill has been able to build the > build-improvements branch with some patches from Camm (which I believe @@ -14640,17 +12906,11 @@ Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list you are a project admin so you have permission to upload files --t - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:36:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <200609111600.k8BG0J925189@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609111622.k8BGM1P25216@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -14667,22 +12927,11 @@ On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, root wrote: sure :-) But, I prefered to know upfront whether that might cause any "philosophical" problem to you. --- Gaby - - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:37:36 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:36:32 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <200609111600.k8BG0J925189@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609111622.k8BGM1P25216@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > sure :-) But, I prefered to know upfront whether that might cause any > "philosophical" problem to you. @@ -14694,18 +12943,12 @@ try not to give it such 'voice of god' authority. you have the ability and permission to do anything you want which is why you're a project admin. -t - - - \start -Subject: RE: axiom.silver Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:15:47 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom.silver -Thread-Index: AcbVvv/rbJdru35LR/K7lxjwr68tmwALN4Yg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Subject: RE: axiom.silver +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Gaby, @@ -14780,24 +13023,12 @@ Maybe we should setup a mirror of the SourceForge SVN repository on the axiom-developer.org server? Then at least we would have an alternate site in case there is a network problem. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:40:36 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_128619_3315567.1158014436158" - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -------=_Part_128619_3315567.1158014436158 - - Hi Bill, +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Maybe we should setup a mirror of the SourceForge SVN repository > on the axiom-developer.org server? Then at least we would have an @@ -14815,43 +13046,12 @@ repositories. problems that SourceForge had moving from CVS. - Regards, - - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_128619_3315567.1158014436158 - -  Hi Bill,
-
-
Maybe we should setup a mirror of the SourceForge SVN repository
on the -axiom-developer.org server? Then at least we would have an
alternate site in case there is a network problem.

-  I wonder if anybody have thought of putting Axiom in the Google repositories.
-
-  http://code.google.com/hosting/
-
-  I already have Doyen in there http://code.google.com/p/doyenlivecd/
-
-  They did start with SVN since day one, and probably do not have the problems
-   that SourceForge had moving from CVS.
-
-   Regards,
-
-   Jose Alfredo Perez
-


- -------=_Part_128619_3315567.1158014436158-- - - - \start -Subject: RE: axiom.silver Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:00:38 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom.silver -Thread-Index: AcbV81cHD+CckvacT7eEb8SbLnjGugAATRqw From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: axiom.silver +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis On Monday, September 11, 2006 6:41 PM Jose Alfredo Perez wrote: @@ -14878,17 +13078,12 @@ mirror the SourceForge repository? And you are volunteering to set this up at Google? Yes? Oh Good! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:26:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: axiom.silver -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -15009,16 +13204,12 @@ network problem out of the way. Hopefully, now that we have out-of-source build, people would no longer need to "rm -rf" the wholse source. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:27:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: axiom.silver -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -15036,20 +13227,12 @@ for it. :-) :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:47:25 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_129703_939062.1158018445673" - -Cc: list, Jaroslov Rosenberger - -------=_Part_129703_939062.1158018445673 +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: > @@ -15074,28 +13257,12 @@ listed I was afraid of that. :-) (always afraid of the higher powers). - Regards, - Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_129703_939062.1158018445673 - -
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote:

| Do you know if we can configure the Google repository to automatically -
| mirror the SourceForge repository?

  I know that Google will not let you register a project that is already in SourceForge
  (same name). Hopefully it can do more than this. I will look into this, especially -
  because it has been a concern to  have different source out of sync.

  I think Google will email the registered administrator to allow have Axiom listed
  in their repositories.
 
-| And you are volunteering to set this up at Google?  Yes? Oh Good!
| :-)

  I was afraid of that. :-)  (always afraid of the higher powers).

  Regards,
  Jose Alfredo Perez
- -------=_Part_129703_939062.1158018445673-- - - - \start +Date: 12 Sep 2006 02:37:00 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: axiom.silver - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Sep 2006 02:37:00 +0200 -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -15107,20 +13274,11 @@ Alfredo Portes writes: I OKed the request. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:52:57 -0400 From: Tim Daly -To: dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net - (dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net) -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [127] - branches/build-improvements/src/interp +To: list +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src/interp > Revision: 127 > http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=127&view=rev @@ -15136,17 +13294,11 @@ methinks this breaks something (BSD?) if i remember correctly See src/algebra/Makefile.pamphlet around line 611 - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200609120252.k8C2qvF25456@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 Sep 2006 05:16:14 +0200 -Cc: list, dos-reis@users.sourceforge.net -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [127] - branches/build-improvements/src/interp +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src/interp Tim Daly writes: @@ -15186,17 +13338,12 @@ The patch was tested on an * i686-pc-linux with GCL and noweb installed * x86_64-suse-linux with noweb installed and WITHOUT GCL installed. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Sep 2006 22:22:34 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - I've long errouneously blamed GCL. Detailed investigation turned out top be an Axiom doing. Fixed thusly. @@ -15254,19 +13401,12 @@ src/interp/ @ echo 6 ${SAVESYS} created - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:32:03 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_132921_11977642.1158031923781" - - - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list - -------=_Part_132921_11977642.1158031923781 +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On 12 Sep 2006 02:37:00 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis < Gabriel Dos Reis> wrote: @@ -15295,31 +13435,11 @@ yes then: should it administrators ( I can send invitations to who ever needs one.) - Regards, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_132921_11977642.1158031923781 - -On 12 Sep 2006 02:37:00 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <Gabriel Dos Reis> wrote:
-|   I think Google will email the registered administrator to allow have Axiom
| listed
|   in their repositories.

I OKed the request.

  Thanks Gaby

  Well the page repository is up now: -http://code.google.com/p/axiom/

   Looking at http://code.google.com/hosting/faq.html and the web I do not see a way yet -
   implemented to import or keep in sync with SourceForge.

   I would like to know if I should proceed to put the source in there...if yes then: should it
   be an exact copy of sourceforge?

   If anybody has gmail accounts please let me know to add them as administrators ( I -
   can send invitations to who ever needs one.)

   Regards,

   Alfredo Portes
- -------=_Part_132921_11977642.1158031923781-- - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Sep 2006 22:39:27 -0500 -Subject: [build-improvements] Remove non-supported - Makefiles - - -Hi, +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list +Subject: [build-improvements] Remove non-supported Makefiles This patchlet removes platform-specific makefiles that "obviously" are not supported by Axiom in its current form. Long term goal is to @@ -15878,18 +13998,12 @@ stop generating Makefile.${SYS} # System dependent Makefile for the SPARC SUNOS 4.1.2 platform --- 1196,1202 ---- - - \start +Date: 12 Sep 2006 05:44:20 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: axiom.silver - - - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Sep 2006 05:44:20 +0200 -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -15929,26 +14043,12 @@ it will not be mirrored converns me a bit. I have a gmail account -- dosreis. -Many thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:58:18 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_133573_6494587.1158033498646" - - - - - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list - -------=_Part_133573_6494587.1158033498646 +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On 12 Sep 2006 05:44:20 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis < Gabriel Dos Reis> wrote: @@ -15975,55 +14075,12 @@ Hmm, I really would like to avoid versions of Axiom differering and else please let me know.. Bill??? - Regards, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_133573_6494587.1158033498646 - -On 12 Sep 2006 05:44:20 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <Gabriel Dos Reis> wrote:

-Hmm, I really would like to avoid versions of Axiom differering and
all being their own master sources.  If at all
possible, we should have exactly the same copy there.  The fact that,
it will not be mirrored converns me a bit. -

  I am concerned with this too. It has happened to the source of Axiom in
  MathAction. I could try to keep it updated to the best of my abilities (maybe
  a script???). Any suggestions are welcome. -

|    If anybody has gmail accounts please let me know to add them as
| administrators ( I -
|    can send invitations to who ever needs one.)

I have a gmail account -- dosreis.

  Gaby, you are listed as owner now. You can modify it as needed. Anybody else
   please let me know.. Bill??? -

  Regards,

   Alfredo Portes


- -------=_Part_133573_6494587.1158033498646-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GMzyL-0005ay-3h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GMzyJ-0005ZZ-Lz - for list; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GMzyI-0005YI-A3 - for list; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GMzyI-0005YC-3O - for list; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:06 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GMzzh-0002k2-SV - for list; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:35:34 -0400 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 15A7F6ACFD; - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:05 -0400 (EDT) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A3EBF6AD90; - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:03 -0400 (EDT) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: axiom.silver +\start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:01 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom.silver -Thread-Index: AcbWHAw8ldPIOQisQZq7QMLSlyBTRgAAti/g From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Subject: RE: axiom.silver +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Monday, September 11, 2006 11:32 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -16075,21 +14132,12 @@ So Alfredo, could you send me an invitation please? :) To: Bill Page -Regards, -Bill. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:49:46 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_134201_16161260.1158036586652" - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list - -------=_Part_134201_16161260.1158036586652 +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Bill, @@ -16120,31 +14168,12 @@ So Alfredo, could you send me an invitation please? :) To: http://code.google.com/p/axiom/ - Regards, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_134201_16161260.1158036586652 - - Bill,

I guess we have to wait. In the meantime perhaps we can work out
a semi-automatic way to apply the patches automatically sent to -

  'axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net'

Are you subscribed to that list?

  No, but I will :-) .
 
-Yes and yes. At least this will allow us to test the checkout
problems and see if they are cured by the use of a different
host. Of course we may have to change things in the future.

   I will commit the Silver source as an initial test. -

So Alfredo, could you send me an invitation please? :) To:

   -Bill Page

  I just got your new email address. You are now listed as an owner:

  http://code.google.com/p/axiom/

   Regards, -

   Alfredo Portes


- -------=_Part_134201_16161260.1158036586652-- - - - \start -Subject: RE: axiom.silver Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:02:32 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom.silver -Thread-Index: AcbWJue5tyErjCXUQdGOYviEzaXzFwAAWTVg From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Subject: RE: axiom.silver +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Alfredo, @@ -16166,21 +14195,12 @@ I added a few extra links to the project page. Looks nice. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:29:49 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver - boundary="----=_Part_134789_13870547.1158038989671" - -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list - -------=_Part_134789_13870547.1158038989671 +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Tim, @@ -16188,24 +14208,11 @@ You are listed as owner on: http://code.google.com/p/axiom/ -Alfredo - -------=_Part_134789_13870547.1158038989671 - -Tim,

You are listed as owner on:

http://code.google.com/p/axiom/

Alfredo
- -------=_Part_134789_13870547.1158038989671-- - - - \start -Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:46:22 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Thread-Index: AcbWGqNiQFOzCUEqRTmsjvHaoqmCBAAEIyLQ From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL On Monday, September 11, 2006 11:23 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -16316,17 +14323,10 @@ fact that gcl was pre-built with different options. Thanks for your work on this! -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Bill Page, - Alfredo Portes -From: Martin Rubey Date: 12 Sep 2006 08:46:32 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes Subject: Live CD for Conference (urgent) Dear Alfredo, Bill, @@ -16346,27 +14346,14 @@ need the most recent version on the CD. Should I send you my package with compilation instructions so that you can put it on the CD, or should I do this myself somehow? - - I'm sorry I'm so late, I didn't manage before... -Thanks for your help, - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:05:50 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Martin Rubey - boundary="----=_Part_135905_2781365.1158044750659" -Cc: list Subject: Re: Live CD for Conference (urgent) -------=_Part_135905_2781365.1158044750659 - Hi Martin, On 12 Sep 2006 08:46:32 +0200, Martin Rubey @@ -16385,66 +14372,37 @@ wrote: > try it out easily. - Sorry Martin, the latest version of the LiveCD uses Fedora, because it was -the - final goal to use Redhat software. I have not had time to try to put -MathAction - on a Knoppix CD. I guess I should look into this. :( - - Have you used the latest LiveCD ??? Do you have any particular reason to -need - the Knoppix one??? Let me know if there is any particular issue that you -would - like me to address. - - -> IMPORTANT NOTE: the guessing package on MathAction is completely out of -> date. I -> need the most recent version on the CD. Should I send you my package with -> compilation instructions so that you can put it on the CD, or should I do -> this -> myself somehow? - - - The process of creating the LiveCD is very straight forward (using the -Fedora LiveCD). - Following the instructions, it should not take more than 45 minutes to -have a complete - CD from scratch by using virtualization or a clean system. - - If you send me the package, I would be more than glad to include it in the -CD. I could - also customize it so it appears on the menus and add the paper or poster -that you - are going to present. I can have this done by Wednesday night / Thursday -morning. + Sorry Martin, the latest version of the LiveCD uses Fedora, because +it was the final goal to use Redhat software. I have not had time to +try to put MathAction on a Knoppix CD. I guess I should look into +this. :( - Regards, + Have you used the latest LiveCD ??? Do you have any particular +reason to need the Knoppix one??? Let me know if there is any +particular issue that you would like me to address. - Alfredo Portes -------=_Part_135905_2781365.1158044750659 +> IMPORTANT NOTE: the guessing package on MathAction is completely out +> of date. I need the most recent version on the CD. Should I send you +> my package with compilation instructions so that you can put it on +> the CD, or should I do this myself somehow? -Hi Martin,

On 12 Sep 2006 08:46:32 +0200, Martin Rubey <Martin Rubey> wrote:
-Dear Alfredo, Bill,

as you probably know, I'm going to present my guessing package next week - only
as a poster, unfortunately, but still.

I would like to be able to give away Live-CD's (Knoppix style) that contain -
Axiom and my guessing package, so that anybody can put it into his laptop and
try it out easily.

  Sorry Martin, the latest version of the LiveCD uses Fedora, because it was the
  final goal to use Redhat software.  I have not had time to try to put MathAction -
  on a Knoppix CD. I guess I should look into this. :(

  Have you used the latest LiveCD ??? Do you have any particular reason to need
  the Knoppix one??? Let me know if there is any particular issue that you would -
  like me to address.
 
IMPORTANT NOTE: the guessing package on MathAction is completely out of date. I -
need the most recent version on the CD. Should I send you my package with
compilation instructions so that you can put it on the CD, or should I do this
myself somehow?

  The process of creating the LiveCD is very straight forward (using the Fedora LiveCD). -
  Following the instructions, it should not take more than 45 minutes to have a complete
  CD from scratch by using virtualization or a clean system.

  If you send me the package, I would be more than glad to include it in the CD. I could -
  also customize it so it appears on the menus and add the paper or poster that you
  are going to present. I can have this done by Wednesday night / Thursday morning.

  Regards,

  Alfredo Portes -
- -------=_Part_135905_2781365.1158044750659-- + The process of creating the LiveCD is very straight forward (using +the Fedora LiveCD). Following the instructions, it should not take +more than 45 minutes to have a complete CD from scratch by using +virtualization or a clean system. + If you send me the package, I would be more than glad to include it +in the CD. I could also customize it so it appears on the menus and +add the paper or poster that you are going to present. I can have this +done by Wednesday night / Thursday morning. \start +Date: 12 Sep 2006 09:14:21 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: evaluator for functional equations / CHALLENGE! -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 12 Sep 2006 09:14:21 +0200 -Cc: list, axiom-math A followup on my own post, containing some material for fast algorithms. @@ -16501,17 +14459,10 @@ http://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/~nedialk/PAPERS/DAEs/taylcoeff_I/ that proposes an algorithm for the general problem. Maybe that's the one we want... -Martin - - - - \start -To: Alfredo Portes - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 12 Sep 2006 09:23:50 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Live CD for Conference (urgent) Dear Alfredo, @@ -16551,19 +14502,12 @@ Well, I need the image downloadable on friday. Is it sufficient if I send you the package with instructions tomorrow evening? (i.e., european time evening, I have no idea what time zone you live in :-) -Thanks a lot for your help, - -Martin - - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:53:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger First of all, there was not proper response to my suggestion @@ -16608,17 +14552,11 @@ repository)? And don't forget to update http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSources appropriately, once the "mirror" is working. -Best regards -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:28:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -16659,17 +14597,12 @@ I'll look into that. It was my pleasure. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 12 Sep 2006 13:34:27 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <4506759A.1020500@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Sep 2006 13:34:27 +0200 -Cc: list, Jaroslov Rosenberger +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -16702,18 +14635,12 @@ I'm no, but I'll look into that. yes, it does. At the moment I'm not familiar with the google setting but I'll have a look into it -- which makes me look into many things :-/ --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:37:48 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:53:46 +0200) Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <4506759A.1020500@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Jaroslov Rosenberger +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger SVN checkin... @@ -16739,18 +14666,11 @@ information. it has the added benefit that you can set up the binary file info before svn guesses wrong. -t - - - - \start +Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:37:14 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Bill Page Subject: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:37:14 +0200 - "Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:51:42 -0400") -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -16816,17 +14736,10 @@ threads, file and directory operations, databases, XML parsing, parsing in general, data compression, logging, text processing, type setting, scientific computing and other things. -Kai - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:35:31 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Rubey on 12 Sep 2006 17:22:35 +0200) - <9qfyexw1ms.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list Subject: SVN on sourceforge i set out to fix the silver version. @@ -16834,17 +14747,12 @@ so far i tried 8 checkouts without success and now i'm up to 20 updates, slowly grabbing pieces. SVN on sourceforge seems broken somehow. -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:05:22 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <200609121535.k8CFZV626203@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Why cannot we first agree on how to fix it. Just removing the SVN properties (svn:eol-style and svn:keywords) is probably NOT enough. @@ -16880,17 +14788,12 @@ On 09/12/2006 05:35 PM, root wrote: > and now i'm up to 20 updates, slowly grabbing pieces. > SVN on sourceforge seems broken somehow. - - \start +Date: 12 Sep 2006 12:41:27 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 12 Sep 2006 12:41:27 -0400 -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -Greetings! +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Bill Page writes: @@ -17063,34 +14966,13 @@ Take care, > Maybe we should setup a mirror of the SourceForge SVN repository > on the axiom-developer.org server? Then at least we would have an > alternate site in case there is a network problem. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:25:37 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbWhZGKBn1rtUFzQVq2iQyZEMb5/AAEfupQ From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Ralf, @@ -17154,19 +15036,12 @@ merging build.improvements back into trunk and then into Gold. Thanks for you offer to help with this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:40:45 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbWgm0yMt/VRSXaTwSit7bUdCAKogAF6n6Q From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Tim, @@ -17210,34 +15085,21 @@ At home the problem is severe. At work the problem is intermittant. On the axiom-developer.org server the problem does not occur at all. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:48:49 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis i'm not behind a proxy. i'm hardwired to the net. -t - - - \start -Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:27:45 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Thread-Index: AcbWXpcR7EzWPfE+TzCNTJisanMkLAAMvjqg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL Gaby, @@ -17582,21 +15444,12 @@ Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/ Re-reading browse.daase (1) -> ----------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:46:53 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbWpb3zEMImR5LAS3a63vtln491bwABEXlA From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Bill Page -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:49 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -17620,20 +15473,12 @@ protocol used by SVN seems to be quite common on the Web. But (usually) this does not apply to encrypted transactions sent via https. And we are already use https. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:48:04 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_155280_1868773.1158101284736" Subject: Disk Quota Google -------=_Part_155280_1868773.1158101284736 - Higuer powers :-) (Bill, Tim, Gaby, Ralf...), Trying to commit the Silver source to the Google repository, I had the @@ -17644,27 +15489,11 @@ I email google and they asking me what size we need. If you can advise me on what size would be good? -Regards, - -Alfrdo Portes - -------=_Part_155280_1868773.1158101284736 - -Higuer powers :-) (Bill, Tim, Gaby, Ralf...),

Trying to commit the Silver source to the Google repository, I had the problem
of going over the disk quota limit. (100 MB).

I email google and they asking me what size we need. -

If you can advise me on what size would be good? -

Regards,

Alfrdo Portes
- - -------=_Part_155280_1868773.1158101284736-- - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:19:40 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Disk Quota Google -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:19:40 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -17684,16 +15513,11 @@ full source of Axiom silver is about 114M 20G should be probably be OK for the next few years -- if we don't have a surge of interest :-). --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:21:45 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Disk Quota Google -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:21:45 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -17713,20 +15537,11 @@ when you get a chance to commit, make sure that the source files don't (except configure and friends) get the executable file bit set -- that is unfortunately the same with Axiom gold and silver. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: Disk Quota Google Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:26:18 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Disk Quota Google -Thread-Index: AcbWvXfZN3HiGuXURvalcI/Qu4iREAAAjiTw From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: RE: Disk Quota Google Alfredo, @@ -17755,17 +15570,11 @@ Maybe we should run some kind of packing job? So I would suggest that you ask for at least 1000 Mbytes - more if they don't think you are crazy. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:28:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -17798,19 +15607,12 @@ testing. I'll work with Camm for the GCL bits. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:32:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <54odtlavgo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Jaroslov Rosenberger +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -17841,16 +15643,11 @@ gcl-2.6.8. The file stat stuff is more urgent. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:35:05 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Disk Quota Google -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:35:05 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Bill Page writes: @@ -17871,17 +15668,12 @@ SVK works over SVN. there is a chance that they will give the lower he ask -- so I will go for higher. SVN becomes very hungry as the number of branches grows. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 Sep 2006 18:45:54 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Remove some Makefile variables - this is a low hanging fruit toward simplification of the makefiles. None of the following variables are needed in Makefile.${SYS}. @@ -18389,33 +16181,20 @@ Tested on an x86_64-suse-linux @echo 45 Makefile.linux called - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:46:12 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:28:49 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - -Cc: list - -Gaby, Be sure you test your build on Fedora Core 5. I had to special case that platform. -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:59:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -18433,21 +16212,11 @@ I have no access to a Fedora Core 5, nor a *BSD platform. IT is essential for me to get Axiom build on MACs though. Any help is much appreciated. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:39:43 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:59:48 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - J_CHICKENPOX_35, J_CHICKENPOX_46, J_CHICKENPOX_75 -Cc: list [arch@tower bi]$ ./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux @@ -18654,18 +16423,11 @@ exit Process shell exited abnormally with code 2 - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:03:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130239.k8D2dhI26428@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -18695,42 +16457,20 @@ assumption based on past discussions. When it is time to merge to trunk, I'll work on reducing that requirement. (It is not hard to remove though). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:16:50 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:03:17 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130239.k8D2dhI26428@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list yum install noweb failed. where should i get the recommended noweb? -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:33:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130239.k8D2dhI26428@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130316.k8D3Goq26458@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -18742,41 +16482,22 @@ I'm puzzled. I took that of Norman Ramsey. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:36:12 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:33:45 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130239.k8D2dhI26428@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130316.k8D3Goq26458@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list do you require a specific version or can i use the one in zips? i'm trying not to make assumptions so i can do a valid test of your makefiles. -t - - - \start -Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:55:32 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Thread-Index: AcbW5wMrl86lHG5kTzmrTZMZqkrIIAAADKng From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Tim, @@ -18797,19 +16518,12 @@ If the default build '--without-noweb' had worked, the one in the zips directory is the one that would have been built. That is was not automatically built is a bug. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:58:07 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Thread-Index: AcbW5EZ4sCqJXGVDTsu3MgQUnQTR3AABEJGw From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:17 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -18823,25 +16537,11 @@ Or do you mean that noweb is not in the yum archive? 'apt-get install noweb' works fine on Debian. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:02:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL - - <200609130046.k8D0kCM26386@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130239.k8D2dhI26428@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130316.k8D3Goq26458@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609130336.k8D3aCb26474@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -18857,16 +16557,11 @@ If you have GCL installed, configure will detect it and use it. Many thanks for your help. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:03:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Cc: list On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -18875,20 +16570,12 @@ On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: it is a dependency working assumption I made. It will be lifted -- it is on the TODO list. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:25:51 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Disk Quota Google - Cc: Bill Page, - axiom-developer - -Hello, On 09/13/2006 01:35 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -18928,16 +16615,11 @@ from the some origin. The actual copying takes place at checkout time. But anyway... 100MB at google seems a bit to less for Axiom. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:51:44 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page, list Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: I have just tried @@ -18955,17 +16637,11 @@ response body:Secure connection truncated (https://svn.sourceforge.net) Any idea what is going wrong? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 09:59:45 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507B890.1020509@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Sep 2006 09:59:45 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -19000,18 +16676,11 @@ While we are not sure what the cause of the problem is, the following seems to have encountered. In the [global] section of the ~/.subversion/servers file, add the following line: http-compression = no -Martin - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:10:35 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <9qsliwjixa.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list Hmmm. Maybe your suggestion is good, but after I've sent my mail, I just tried @@ -19074,17 +16743,13 @@ On 09/13/2006 09:59 AM, Martin Rubey wrote: > have encountered. In the [global] section of the ~/.subversion/servers file, > add the following line: http-compression = no > -> Martin - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:17:22 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] support system-install GCL -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > > yum install noweb failed. > > where should i get the recommended noweb? @@ -19099,18 +16764,11 @@ Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis my guess is that yum is not in the fedora archives. yum doesn't use debian so the only option is a hand install. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:03:28 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:10:35 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <9qsliwjixa.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <4507BCFB.9040203@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list well, i'd hoped that i could make a definitive test. i modifed .subversion/servers and set http-compression=no, @@ -19127,18 +16785,12 @@ clamp on the host process which kills it. i'll rerun the same test around noon and see what results i get. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:17:40 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Hello, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis as you know, I have freshly checked out Gold (--patch-50) and Silver (trunk r133). @@ -19194,18 +16846,12 @@ And libaxiom.al is there to avoid running the scripts from Peter Broadbery? But note that this thing gets out of date if ever somebody modifies some algebra files. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:20:52 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:17:40 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > gcl-2.6.1.cmpnew.gcl_cmpflet.lsp.patch > gcl-2.6.2.cmpnew.gcl_cmpflet.lsp.patch @@ -19219,16 +16865,12 @@ it's very curious why these have CRLF. i'll fix that in gold in the next release. we can fix it in silver now. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:36:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis So, now I have run to check from Silver r133 to Gold (--patch-50). @@ -19371,16 +17013,12 @@ manuel1.pdf manuel2.pdf tla-1.1.tar.gz - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:38:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> - <200609130920.k8D9Kqk26921@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis OK, then fix it in Gold, Silver is already OK. @@ -19401,18 +17039,13 @@ On 09/13/2006 11:20 AM, root wrote: > i'll fix that in gold in the next release. > we can fix it in silver now. > -> t - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:31:24 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:17:40 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > BTW, Tim, why is there now also "tla-1.1.tar.gz" inside the axiom archive? @@ -19429,38 +17062,22 @@ i know this is 'verboten' but these systems are not debian and you can't just do an apt-get to install the code. but until the patches go upstream the users of these 3 systems need the tools. -t - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:32:21 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:17:40 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis someone should patch noweb's build process. it uses a non-standard build procedure. -t - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:33:34 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:17:40 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > And libaxiom.al is there to avoid running the scripts from Peter > Broadbery? But note that this thing gets out of date if ever somebody @@ -19471,18 +17088,11 @@ it's on my list to think that one thru. it won't be an issue until aldor is released ... which reminds me, time to ask again... -t - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:49:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page, list Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: In Silver/trunk I see @@ -19499,18 +17109,12 @@ Is there any particular interest in keeping CVSROOT? If that it gone, we also don't need the axiom directory, but could move the files and dirs inside it one level up. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:45:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:36:52 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis in general, silver will be ahead of gold so there will be differences. @@ -19522,18 +17126,12 @@ the CHANGELOGs below the top level directory are probably unnecessary but don't hurt anything. my working method has been to catalog every change in the top level CHANGELOG. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:56:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> - <200609130932.k8D9WLr26935@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Wow! A very clear description of what goes wrong. ;-) @@ -19542,36 +17140,22 @@ Ralf On 09/13/2006 11:32 AM, root wrote: > someone should patch noweb's build process. > it uses a non-standard build procedure. -> -> t -> - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:59:11 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:49:34 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list CVSROOT is probably a legacy of the fact that the SVN archive was created automatically from the CVS archive. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:10:46 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> - <200609130945.k8D9jTa26969@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > in general, silver will be ahead of gold so there will be differences. @@ -19586,20 +17170,12 @@ code as is in your local Gold-to-be archive. If you don't want that then make the Gold-to-be archive public so we could get the patches you apply to that archive and put it into Silver/trunk. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:06:08 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:56:25 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> - <200609130932.k8D9WLr26935@localhost.localdomain> - <4507D5C9.6020304@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Wow! A very clear description of what goes wrong. ;-) > @@ -19623,21 +17199,12 @@ but in noweb you need to change to a build directory and then do trivial, but annoying, forcing you to read the docs and you know how i hate documentation :-) -t - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:11:03 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:10:46 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> - <200609130945.k8D9jTa26969@localhost.localdomain> - <4507D926.7080509@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > > in general, silver will be ahead of gold so there will be differences. > @@ -19659,20 +17226,12 @@ what you said. silver (assuming i'm ever able to maintain it) will be gold-to-be, in sync with my latest set of mistakes. (all code changes are mistakes until properly tested, then they become bugs :-) ) -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:26:09 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Sep 2006 11:38:34 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> - <200609130920.k8D9Kqk26921@localhost.localdomain> - <4507D19A.801@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > OK, then fix it in Gold, Silver is already OK. > @@ -19699,20 +17258,12 @@ actually, i went back to gcl-2.6.6 and the original files were DOS meaning they followed the DOS standard for line endings. this is changed as of gcl-2.6.7. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:57:40 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Hello +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis are the .bitmap and .mask files in src/graph/include/bitmaps/ really text files? They look like that. How are they generated? And would it @@ -19724,19 +17275,11 @@ Same question for .xbm. Gaby, what about all those text-files you have checked in? They don't seem to carry the svn:eol-style=native property. Should I change that, too? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:09:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> - <200609130945.k8D9jTa26969@localhost.localdomain> - <4507D926.7080509@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -19747,19 +17290,11 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: I think Tim is right. My understanding of silver and gold is that silver will have patches *before* gold considers them. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:11:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> - <4507E424.6040506@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -19778,17 +17313,11 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: I used the unix-style, but if you believe native is less troublesome, yes please go ahead. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:12:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -19801,18 +17330,11 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Yes, it is fine for silver to have more files than gold. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:12:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507CCB4.1000404@hemmecke.de> - <200609130932.k8D9WLr26935@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -19821,19 +17343,10 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: :-) :-) --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:25:27 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <4507D134.8080209@hemmecke.de> - <200609130945.k8D9jTa26969@localhost.localdomain> - <4507D926.7080509@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list Subject: Gold-Silver-Bronze No, no, I think we all agree now. The confusion appeared because it is @@ -19864,19 +17377,12 @@ On 09/13/2006 01:09 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > I think Tim is right. My understanding of silver and gold is that > silver will have patches *before* gold considers them. -> -> -- Gaby - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:27:23 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507B890.1020509@hemmecke.de> <9qsliwjixa.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <4507BCFB.9040203@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:27:23 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -19905,20 +17411,11 @@ hosts. yes, because it is a short-running process. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:30:49 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list - -Tim, What about the files src/share/algebra/DEPENDENTS.DAASE/index.KAF @@ -19927,20 +17424,11 @@ src/share/algebra/USERS.DAASE/index.KAF They look like text files, but I guess it matters if they are checked out under Windows and get CR LF line endings? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:27:25 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 13 Sep 2006 14:30:49 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> - <4507F9F9.60708@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list they are the axiom initial database files. an index.KAF file is a binary random access file. @@ -19948,18 +17436,11 @@ the first integer in the file is the byte offset of the hash table. the hash table has a set of (key . index) pairs the index is the byte offset in the file of the value for the key. -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:00:55 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list OK, a few more file types that I am unsure of... Not that I cannot recognise text files... what worries me is whether @@ -19996,33 +17477,19 @@ xbm.tiny .bitmap.wrong .xbm -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:58:26 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:00:55 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4507D42E.6060201@hemmecke.de> - <200609130959.k8D9xBW26986@localhost.localdomain> - <45080107.7030305@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list none of those are 'text' file formats. --t - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:19:59 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXNI1a5D9Vw1muTXuBO4Z0XsZnMgACGNsg From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge On September 13, 2006 9:01 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -20068,19 +17535,11 @@ SVN will just leave all the files alone. I think we should remove it from all files and make that the default. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:40:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list - -Hi Bill, somehow you are contradicting yourself. @@ -20176,16 +17635,11 @@ These files are probably not needed anymore... verifymsg -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 16:45:27 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 16:45:27 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -20195,18 +17649,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Yes. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:58:18 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:40:12 +0200) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4508184C.4060601@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Any reason why there are such non-pamphlets? > @@ -20316,16 +17763,11 @@ they are not needed. they were part of my conversion tools. CVSROOT should go away completely. - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: "Kai Kaminski" , - Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: A Canonical Axiom GUI Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:09:02 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Kai Kaminski, Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: A Canonical Axiom GUI > -----Message d'origine----- > De : axiom-developer-bounces+g.vanuxem=wanadoo.fr@nongnu.org @@ -20345,21 +17787,11 @@ Cc: list Yes, please, when time permits. -Greg - - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:11:20 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXQm12hOdZPfM/T8m4BSerKsMjcgAACdPg From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:40 AM you wrote: > @@ -20525,19 +17957,11 @@ I agree. These are CVS control files that should not be in the SVN archive. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:16:50 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4508184C.4060601@hemmecke.de> - <200609131458.k8DEwIX27287@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list >> .lisp >> .text @@ -20568,16 +17992,11 @@ find . -regex '.*\.\(lisp\|text\|tex\|sty\)' ./src/doc/fnotes.tex ./src/doc/gloss.text - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 17:29:07 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4508184C.4060601@hemmecke.de> - <200609131458.k8DEwIX27287@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 17:29:07 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -20615,20 +18034,12 @@ build-improvements has document.in Amen. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:00:05 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXGJ501t+nOfQfRruTLtYGlq+fcgAM7Lhg From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Tim, +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:31 AM you wrote: > @@ -20673,17 +18084,11 @@ They already have there own tools. You need to learn to use them. Otherwise Axiom will continue to look like just another weird foreign system to them. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -20697,18 +18102,12 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: "most common systems" in a suitably chosen sample. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:15:06 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) -Thread-Index: AcbXGOhyGTWcEooQSfuiYdFH8e+DqgANO7HQ From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:34 AM Tim Daly wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -20737,19 +18136,12 @@ are still in this situation. :( Note: Both Mike Dewar and Steven Watt have stated publicly on this list that they support making Aldor open source. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:35:06 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXHXcJpOrVH0FrRfCowJHTKOWGmQAM+O5Q From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:06 AM Tim Daly wrote: > > @@ -20782,18 +18174,11 @@ subdirectory and you have to edit the 'Makefile' manually before typing 'make all'. Or you can write a simple shell script like the example 'nwmake'. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:06:57 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - -Cc: list > | CVSROOT should go away completely. > @@ -20801,14 +18186,10 @@ Cc: list Removed from Silver/trunk. -Ralf - - - \start -To: list Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:08:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build-improvements and latex I have updated to version 133 of build-improvements branch and @@ -20818,18 +18199,11 @@ The reason for failure is missing amssymb.sty file. I am affraid that if we want clean build, then configure should check for all latex packages used. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:27:39 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list >> I actually don't understand why in the repository is anything >> else than pamphlets. @@ -20850,18 +18224,11 @@ sources. If somebody gives me a an idea how to put .fig into a xfig such a bad program. Note that the .latex generated from .fig is NOT the source. Of course, you know that... -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:29:45 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <4508184C.4060601@hemmecke.de> - <200609131458.k8DEwIX27287@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Hi Tim, @@ -20874,16 +18241,11 @@ Hi Tim, Then remove them. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:35:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list > Actually my understanding is that if we remove the svn:eol-style > properties from all files and set that as the default, then @@ -20899,18 +18261,11 @@ If svn:eol-style is removed, I would like at least a script that takes care of commits that contain \r\n line endings. Such commits should be rejected. Can that be done on sourceforge? -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:37:42 -0400 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AcbXV0Nf4Paxk/0zRW+JnrqSoVenFAAA5aNA From: Bill Page To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:08 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -20932,17 +18287,12 @@ later. Or even individually like this: make clifford.spad.dvi -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:50:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +Cc: Waldek Hebisch > I still think it makes better sense to *not* run the LaTeX part > of the build by default. If somebody wants it, they should be @@ -20960,18 +18310,10 @@ turned into a link to the definition of Integer. For that we still need some good convention of how pamphlets should look like. Hmm, maybe we are not at that stage ... -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:03:21 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Doyen and Sage (was: [SAGEsupport] SAGE) -Thread-Index: AcbXVegk32rPmrdUREe19RpMvSsfowAAQwOQ From: Bill Page -To: "Enrique Acosta" -Cc: list, bug reports and users' support questions - +To: Enrique Acosta Subject: Doyen and Sage (was: [SAGEsupport] SAGE) On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:58 PM William Stein wrote: @@ -21069,20 +18411,12 @@ here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenDocs -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:15:19 -0400 -Thread-Topic: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) -Thread-Index: AcbXXQ9qtWBPRtHKRxeGvh2TBbbxKgAAlvrw From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch -Subject: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) +Subject: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:51 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -21111,18 +18445,10 @@ automatically link to a standard remote website with similar information. This should be possible with a little javascript magic. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:53:03 -0700 -To: Bill Page, "bug reports and users' support questions" - , - "Enrique Acosta" From: William Stein -Cc: list +To: Bill Page, Enrique Acosta Subject: Re: [SAGEsupport] Doyen and Sage (was: SAGE) On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:03:21 -0700, Page, Bill Bill Page @@ -21158,19 +18484,11 @@ for anything involving graphics. How much space is left. For SAGE, we'd need about 300MB, probably, since we would want to include GCC. -William - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:50:39 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:42 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - -Cc: list - ======================================================================== ======================================================================== @@ -21317,20 +18635,11 @@ cp elisp/noweb-mode.el /dev/null [root@dhcppc0 src]# which notangle /usr/local/bin/notangle - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:51:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:42 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - J_CHICKENPOX_92 -Cc: list - ======================================================================== ======================================================================== @@ -21467,19 +18776,11 @@ make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification time 3.2e+06 s in the future cd . && autoconf make: *** [configure] Interrupt - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:52:13 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:42 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - J_CHICKENPOX_46, J_CHICKENPOX_57, J_CHICKENPOX_75 -Cc: list - ======================================================================== ======================================================================== @@ -22022,15 +19323,12 @@ make: *** [all] Error 2 [root@dhcppc0 tmp]# rm -rf bi [root@dhcppc0 tmp]# - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:08:01 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:08:01 +0200 -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Bill Page writes: @@ -22053,17 +19351,12 @@ Bill Page writes: Yes, that is way most GNU standard projects work, mke; make dvi; make ps; make pdf or whatever. But the idea is not unanimous here. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:10:04 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <450844FC.8050404@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:10:04 +0200 -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -22074,18 +19367,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: We need to get running on as many platform as "popular"; then we gain critical mass; then we get the fanciest things. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:14:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - <200609131850.k8DIodZ27455@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -22096,20 +19382,12 @@ and finally solved it. There is something to be said for non-standard build systems :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:15:59 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXZxCnSqqYR8d5RO6L+dFM7tTj7gAAS6Dw From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -Tim, +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:52 PM you wrote: > @@ -22134,19 +19412,11 @@ What kind of system is this? Maybe you could send a copy of config.sys? Curious: Why did you touch every file? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - <200609131851.k8DIpTj27459@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -22160,27 +19430,19 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: | This went into an infinite loop in the make due to some kind of | timestamp problem. -| make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification time 3.2e+06 s in the future -| cd . && autoconf -| cd /tmp/bi && /bin/sh ./config.status `echo /tmp/bi/ | sed -e 's|/tmp/bi/||'`Makefile -| config.status: creating Makefile -| make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification time 3.2e+06 s in the future -| cd . && autoconf +| make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification time 3.2e+06 s in +| the future cd . && autoconf cd /tmp/bi && /bin/sh ./config.status +| `echo /tmp/bi/ | sed -e 's|/tmp/bi/||'`Makefile config.status: +| creating Makefile make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification +| time 3.2e+06 s in the future cd . && autoconf :-(( --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:17:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - <200609131852.k8DIqDf27463@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -22192,16 +19454,11 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: I think you have some problem with your "make". this is complaining about gmp sub-build inside GCL. --- gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:19:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -22228,17 +19485,12 @@ Because that was the way he could bypass a timestamp problem with hys system make and the generation of Makefile files. I'm curious of how he got that huge difference of timestamp. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:19:08 +0200 -Cc: list, Waldek Hebisch +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Bill Page writes: @@ -22252,18 +19504,11 @@ Bill Page writes: that should be an option -- I would hate to see Axiom suddenly starts competing with other network hungry software for access to the net. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: New Axiom Browser Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:26:51 -0400 -Thread-Topic: New Axiom Browser -Thread-Index: AcbXacnqDs3bGsp3RdSt41rp22r/lwAAFyWw From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: New Axiom Browser On September 13, 2006 3:19 PM Gaby wrote: @@ -22286,18 +19531,12 @@ On September 13, 2006 3:19 PM Gaby wrote: In what since does this involve "Axiom competing with other network software"? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:24:13 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:52 PM you wrote: > > @@ -22325,22 +19564,11 @@ from scratch and try again. next time i'll save it. touch brings the time stamp up to date. thus all of the files are pre-make ready. -t - - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:25:20 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:17:45 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - - <200609131852.k8DIqDf27463@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | So I touched every file, did a make clean, and tried again > | @@ -22353,18 +19581,11 @@ Cc: list except for installing noweb this is a vanilla, off the install CD, Fedora core 5 system. -t - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:36:20 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXZvSNWeoj/rSnSJWNISP1TaxSmwAA/B3g From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Sorry, I seems I received you emails in the wrong order. Perhaps time is warped today? Dr. Who? @@ -22414,19 +19635,11 @@ have just 'tar' and 'awk'. Far out. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:48:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements - and latex) - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) On 09/13/2006 09:19 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -22448,18 +19661,11 @@ local html, but if that cannot be found the link should either directly link to some resources on the net or at least link to some footnote that tells you the appropriate URL. -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:50:35 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXa7H6kl3dxDoDQMu7ODJBPxW1zAAAbJ3g From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:25 PM Tim Daly wrote: @@ -22478,17 +19684,11 @@ be related to your earlier SourceForge access problems? Have you tried just to build GCL stand alone? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:52:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -22517,19 +19717,11 @@ Some systems have gtar, some don't. Just like some have gawk instead of awk (or nawk, or...). The differences should not matter for our purpose -- and if they do, then we have a bug. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:02:34 -0400 -Thread-Topic: SVN on sourceforge -Thread-Index: AcbXaO3BRSRrv8BWTXSUtx5b1vaX/QABfOyw From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - "root" Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: SVN on sourceforge On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:15 PM Gabriel Dos Reis > @@ -22555,17 +19747,11 @@ Have you built any other packages from source successfully? Er, it wouldn't be polite to repeat it here! ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 13 Sep 2006 22:00:47 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 13 Sep 2006 22:00:47 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -22599,19 +19785,11 @@ What I meant is I would hate to have Axiom starts competing with other software to gain access to the net. I did not say competing with network software -- most of them are not. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) - - <450860A4.40207@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Sep 2006 22:07:02 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -22637,17 +19815,12 @@ i.e. if the documentation is not locally available, I would prefer to be given the opportunity to chose whether Axiom should contact the world or just say "sorry, documentation missing". --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:02:41 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > > | The make all install failed to terminate, looping > > | infintely deeper. @@ -22663,18 +19836,11 @@ this is a clean fedora core 5 install. fedora core 5 changed a lot of things. i had to make a special case in the axiom gold build. -t - - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:15:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge - <200609132002.k8DK2fr27570@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, root wrote: @@ -22698,18 +19864,11 @@ Unfortunately, I have a lecture in less than an hour and I have slides to prepare for tomorrow. It is almost unlikely that I have anything done for Axiom tonight :-( --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:17:16 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements - and latex) - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) > | Gaby, I don't understand. If you have a documentation of Axiom and > | click on a like then you should get somewhere or the link should not @@ -22735,22 +19894,11 @@ I guess, Bill meant nothing else with | > | automatically link to a standard remote website with similar | > | information. -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: RE: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:27:18 -0400 -Thread-Topic: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) -Thread-Index: AcbXca0AP8jFbXCGTDmIDM4pl9fZZAAAQZyg From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: RE: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements andlatex) On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:17 PM you wrote: > ... @@ -22771,22 +19919,12 @@ On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:17 PM you wrote: Exactly. I did not realize that what I wrote was so ambiguous. Thanks for the clarification. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:10:25 -0400 -Thread-Topic: build.improvements 'make clean' -Thread-Index: AcbXcWlS7e5lXQzHTw+GXMCczaH8QgAD7XTQ From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: build.improvements 'make clean' -Gaby, - Here is just a quick patch to make sure that all the 'stamp-*' directories are deleted in the case of 'make clean'. @@ -22807,28 +19945,12 @@ Here is just a quick patch to make sure that all the -sh-3.00$ --------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:18:44 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_4382_23193383.1158185924647" - -Cc: list, - Enrique Acosta , - bug reports and users' support questions - Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage (was: [SAGEsupport] SAGE) - -------=_Part_4382_23193383.1158185924647 - -Hi Bill, +Cc: Enrique Acosta I saw few emails regarding adding Sage to the Doyen CD. @@ -22840,32 +19962,11 @@ I could have a CD only with Sage for now. Also, should add your work on LatexWiki to support Sage to the Doyen CD? -Regards, - -Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_4382_23193383.1158185924647 - -Hi Bill,

I saw few emails regarding adding Sage to the Doyen CD.

Would you want me to add it now or wait until a possible
support for Axiom inside Sage.

I could have a CD only with Sage for now.
-
Also, should add your work on LatexWiki to support Sage
to the Doyen CD?

Regards,

Alfredo Portes
- -------=_Part_4382_23193383.1158185924647-- - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and - latex) - - <450860A4.40207@hemmecke.de> - - <4508674C.1050708@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Sep 2006 00:16:57 +0200 -Cc: list - -Ralf Hemmecke writes: +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: New Axiom Browser (was: build-improvements and latex) | > | Gaby, I don't understand. If you have a documentation of Axiom and | > | click on a like then you should get somewhere or the link should not @@ -22887,21 +19988,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: Yes. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:27:42 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Doyen and Sage -Thread-Index: AcbXgpwbfTY55LV3Rt2LKQ1ZefivUgAADnUw From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: William Stein, list, - Enrique Acosta , - bug reports and users' support questions - Subject: RE: Doyen and Sage +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:19 PM Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -22927,26 +20019,12 @@ CD would be very desirable. (That reminds me that I promised to get those changes into the MathAction darcs repository... I haven't done that yet.) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:03:11 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_5636_20982927.1158192191415" - -Cc: William Stein, list, - Enrique Acosta , - bug reports and users' support questions - Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage - -------=_Part_5636_20982927.1158192191415 - -Bill, +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta I don't think it is necessary to wait for that. I may be a > few more months away. @@ -22981,49 +20059,10 @@ Yes, I think having the LatexWiki support for Sage on the Just let me know to add it to the CD and make it an official release in MathAction. - Thank you, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_5636_20982927.1158192191415 - -Bill,

-
I don't think it is necessary to wait for that. I may be a
few more months away.
-

-  Ok.  If there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
-

But both Axiom and Sage (about 300MB) are quite large. Do
you think they would both fit + DoyenWiki and Magnus on the -
same CD?

-  Yeah it is okay, keep it comming :-) . I created an image of Doyen
-   with Sage:
-
-   http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenSage.iso
-
-   I exhort to try it and let me know if anything is missing. I put a
-   Sage icon on the Doyen menu. The Sage notebook should be
-   functional also.
-
-   To take for a spin using vmware:
-
-    http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenVmware.tar.gz
-

Yes, I think having the LatexWiki support for Sage on the
CD would be very desirable. (That reminds me that I promised -
to get those changes into the MathAction darcs repository...
I haven't done that yet.)

-    Just let me know to add it to the CD and make it an official
-    release in MathAction.
-

-    Thank you,
-
-     Alfredo Portes
-

- -------=_Part_5636_20982927.1158192191415-- - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:29:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: build.improvements 'make clean' On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -23036,20 +20075,12 @@ On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: Thanks. This is queued. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:47:36 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Doyen and Sage -Thread-Index: AcbXkS2/GhIvbqbERMGPIPdu6OrfCwAHB9Qg From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: William Stein, - Enrique Acosta , - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: RE: Doyen and Sage +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta Alfredo, @@ -23115,17 +20146,11 @@ item and I will also add it to the CafePress Axiom Gear - but you know, I am disappointed by how little "gear" actually gets ordered :( I like my Axiom mug and my Axiom baseball cap! :) - - - \start -Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:56:27 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) -Thread-Index: AcbXsG6Nt65P+gRlQR6c7b6K9OiEdQAAFSOw From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:46 PM Cliff Yapp wrote: @@ -23150,19 +20175,12 @@ Haskell work with Axiom. Ocaml at least is heavily used in proof systems and has a syntax and object model not too different from SPAD and Aldor. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:57:45 -0700 -To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes From: William Stein -Cc: list, - Enrique Acosta , - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage +Cc: Enrique Acosta On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:47:36 -0700, Page, Bill Bill Page wrote: @@ -23214,21 +20232,12 @@ web browser with the notebook loaded. You're doing so much for SAGE -- I really need to get the SAGE<-->Axiom interface going soon. -William - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:05:05 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_9286_13227835.1158210305612" - -Cc: list Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage -------=_Part_9286_13227835.1158210305612 - Bill, Man. You're good! :-) @@ -23268,35 +20277,12 @@ Tim, since you "own" the Axiom book on Lulu can you look into how I think this is a very good idea. - Regards, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_9286_13227835.1158210305612 - -  Bill,

Man. You're good! :-)

  I have learned more from you and Tim than in many of my CS classes. -
  I wish I could contribute more regarding source code...some day.

Did I miss it? I didn't see the Sage icon. -

  Applications -> Doyen -> Sage

Expect the update to the repository in a couple of days. -

  Ok. 

BTW, I really like the new content in the DoyenWiki. -

  Ah, that was the easy part, just needed to copy your work :-).
 
-We can also add a few pages about Sage. There is an 'AboutSage' page
on MathAction that we can cut-up and paste.

  Ok.

-Tim, since you "own" the Axiom book on Lulu can you look into how
to do this? Of course I can arrange to publish it as a separate
item and I will also add it to the CafePress Axiom Gear - but
you know, I am disappointed by how little "gear" actually gets -
ordered :(  I like my Axiom mug and my Axiom baseball cap! :)

  I think this is a very good idea.

  Regards,

  Alfredo Portes
- -------=_Part_9286_13227835.1158210305612-- - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:39:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Bill Page, - list -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom Silver -Hi Bill, - Nice that you have opened up that site. http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SilverBinaries @@ -23332,17 +20318,11 @@ the sources, or there should be a link to the http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSources page. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:46:21 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: Doyen and Sage - -Cc: list Hi Alfredo, @@ -23354,19 +20334,11 @@ Or send me some data and I'll do it. Your work on Doyen and Sage is important for Axiom. Thanks. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:55:00 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: list -Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits - moderator approval] - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------040203020707080104040309 +Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval] Hello, @@ -23395,15 +20367,11 @@ this is) accepts the post that then also the commit succeeds. I am simply frustrated by this. Why should I split a commit only because of limitations of the tools? -Ralf - \start -Subject: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval -From: axiom-commit-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net -To: hemmecke@users.sourceforge.net Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:40:31 -0700 -Errors-To: axiom-commit-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net - version=2.55 +From: axiom-commit-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval Your mail to 'Axiom-commit' with the subject @@ -23419,17 +20387,11 @@ Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: - https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/confirm/axiom-commit/62adcba8ed89469a078bb6d9dd5ed7aa7efc031a - ---------------040203020707080104040309-- - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:02:27 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits - moderator approval] +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval] You remember ... I've just sent... @@ -23450,18 +20412,11 @@ If that is not strange... I'll continue to copy the --patch-50 files to silver and try to correct the corrupted binaries. -Ralf - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom - Silver - <45090728.7040608@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Sep 2006 12:40:18 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom Silver Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23494,19 +20449,11 @@ really can be very unstable :-) | You promote the build-improvements branch which is clearly in the | testing phase, so it should NOT be called Silver. -I agree. - --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits - moderator approval] -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Sep 2006 12:45:02 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval] Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23546,19 +20493,12 @@ Give me a break. I noticed that the server can also truncate commit diffs -- which makes the whole idea very useful :-( --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:38:40 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes - (Bill Page) -Cc: William Stein, enriqueacostajaramillo@gmail.com, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage - +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta Alfredo, > @@ -23584,18 +20524,12 @@ Btw, if anyone notices a name missing please send me a note. I've made a great effort to collect the names of people who have helped make Axiom what it is. - -t - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:53:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: SVN on sourceforge -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Hi, @@ -23640,19 +20574,12 @@ tla doing with respect to text files? And can sourceforge prevent people from committing textfiles that contain \r\n? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:46:26 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes - (Bill Page) -Cc: William Stein, enriqueacostajaramillo@gmail.com, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage - +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta On a different note, both to Bill and Jose, @@ -23672,18 +20599,11 @@ with the Doyen CD distribution? Are the how-to build docs on the Doyen CD? -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:58:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits - moderator approval] - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval] > | The reason it is being held: > | @@ -23702,18 +20622,11 @@ what the error message is telling me. So I continued and succeeded. Silver is now more or less in sync with patch-50. Corrupted binaries corrected. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:06:05 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom - Silver - -Cc: list +Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom Silver > | What we have is like Debian. > | @@ -23742,21 +20655,12 @@ just call the branches Gold, Silver, Bronze with a definition of what they are and the understanding that there is just ONE Gold and ONE Silver but many Bronze branches. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:59:06 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Cc: William Stein, enriqueacostajaramillo@gmail.com, - sage-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage - -Bill, +Cc: William Stein, Enrique Acosta > Tim, since you "own" the Axiom book on Lulu can you look into how > to do this? Of course I can arrange to publish it as a separate @@ -23793,21 +20697,12 @@ Since you're advocating the change, you're volunteering, right? :-) :-) (Heck, if you want you can even put YOUR name on the cover instead of mine) -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:58:19 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly - boundary="----=_Part_14684_23887806.1158235099863" - <200609141046.k8EAkQf28148@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: Doyen and Sage -------=_Part_14684_23887806.1158235099863 - Tim, Can the two of you work on bringing the docs up to speed @@ -23824,29 +20719,11 @@ Are the how-to build docs on the Doyen CD? Yes they are. Not that visible now...quick fix. -Alfredo - -------=_Part_14684_23887806.1158235099863 - - Tim,

Can the two of you work on bringing the docs up to speed
with the Doyen CD distribution? -

  The latest work to add Sage is not in the docs yet. However,
  the current docs should allow anybody to reproduce the
  latest CD. Of course the docs can always be improved.
  I will revise the documentation. -

Are the how-to build docs on the Doyen CD?

 Yes they are.  Not that visible now...quick fix. -

Alfredo

- -------=_Part_14684_23887806.1158235099863-- - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom - Silver - <45090728.7040608@hemmecke.de> - - <4509379D.8020203@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:19:30 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [SilverBinaries] (new) Help test Axiom Silver Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23901,19 +20778,11 @@ I do believe that "unstable" for silver is not doing it justice. That is one way of doing it. As long as we reserve "unstable" for far worse situations. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits - moderator approval] - - <450935D1.2090902@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:22:17 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaits moderator approval] Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -23935,18 +20804,11 @@ very helpful. | Silver is now more or less in sync with patch-50. -That is great! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) To: Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Aldor and Axiom (was: SVN on sourceforge) --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -23988,24 +20850,11 @@ something called Yarrow but it doesn't seem to be as "big time" as coq. Anybody have experience with these languages? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:40:00 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:40:00 +0200 -Cc: list - -Dear all, I believe that we should *not* embark on designing yet another language. I played enough with Aldor meanwhile to really appreciate the language - with @@ -24022,18 +20871,11 @@ is the one thing we need in any case! If you prefer to rewrite the interpreter in a different language, go ahead. But please don't design yet another one! -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:58:48 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - <9qfyeuzknz.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 14:58:48 +0200 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -24051,26 +20893,16 @@ Martin Rubey writes: I tend to agree with Martin. We should focus on either SPAD (make it better) or Aldor (hopeless). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:07:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - -Cc: list > We should focus on either SPAD (make it better) or Aldor (hopeless). Gaby, you should have replaced 'better' by 'Aldor' (language). ;-) -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:19:22 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -24087,19 +20919,11 @@ Would this be a reasonable thing for Axiom? Does anyone know of a place that provides this service? Any idea of the costs involved? -t - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:46:00 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: conferene call -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:46:00 +0200 - of "Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:19:22 -0400") -Cc: list - -Tim Daly writes: > I work remotely. Once a week we have conference calls where we all > dial into a certain phone number and enter a pass code. @@ -24116,18 +20940,11 @@ free and Skype is available on Windows, Linux and Macs. Installation See www.skype.com. -Kai - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:02:46 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: conferene call - -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:02:46 +0200 - 14 Sep 2006 15:46:00 +0200") -Cc: list Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -24153,19 +20970,11 @@ If you'd like to try it out before committing to it, feel free to call me I believe that in conference calls the host should be the one with the biggest pipe, btw, since all communication goes over his machine. - -Kai - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:06:37 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: conferene call - -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:06:37 +0200 - 14 Sep 2006 16:02:46 +0200") -Cc: list [Skype for conference calls] @@ -24176,15 +20985,10 @@ though). Skype also supports text messages. Tim, if you don't have a microphone and still want to try, go ahead. -Kai - - - \start -To: Timothy Daly Tim Daly -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Sep 2006 16:36:01 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Timothy Daly Tim Daly Subject: Help with adding algebra URGENT! Dear Tim, * @@ -24218,22 +21022,12 @@ If I remove FFFGF, the build completes and FAMR2 is visible... What did I do wrong? -Martin - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Sep 2006 17:56:36 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: putting pamphlets on MathAction ---=-=-= - -Dear Bill, - could you please put the three attached pamphlets on mathaction. fffg.spad.pamphlet => FractionFreeFastGaussianElimination @@ -24251,9 +21045,6 @@ doesn't seem to like the dollar signs... Thanks for everything, -Martin - - --=-=-= H4sIAE1sCUUAA7xb63PjuJHfz/NXsFKpysyVd9aWZ9a7t7nUUXxIjPkyQNnjrXyhJVhmliK1JDVj @@ -25310,21 +22101,12 @@ Hj26/V5/OZSnDpItZ29EwaAF7jz5qAmBWVHXqFsnA8DdbTLIu+i/XXn77crbv+2Vt9vvSvy/cZnr t89vn98+v31++/z2+e3z2+e3z2+f3z6/fX77/Pb57fPb57fPb5/fPr992Of/B9ObcVwAwAMA --=-=-=-- - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:57:32 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_20426_18413078.1158249452590" -Cc: axiom-developer Subject: Doyen Docs -------=_Part_20426_18413078.1158249452590 - -Hi Bill, - While editing: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenDocs , I got this error: Some or all of this page may not have rendered properly, because of the @@ -25335,30 +22117,11 @@ DoyenDocs.tex' /bin/sh: line 1: /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave: No such file or directory -Any idea? - -Thank you, - -Alfredo - -------=_Part_20426_18413078.1158249452590 - -Hi Bill,

While editing: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenDocs , I got this error:

Some or all of this page may not have rendered properly, because of the following error: -
noweb: cd '/var/zope/var/LatexWiki/'; /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave -delay 'DoyenDocs.pamphlet' > 'DoyenDocs.tex'
/bin/sh: line 1: /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave: No such file or directory -

Any idea?

Thank you,

Alfredo


- -------=_Part_20426_18413078.1158249452590-- - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:13:48 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit - awaitsmoderator approval] -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:13:48 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +Subject: RE: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaitsmoderator approval] On September 14, 2006 6:45 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -25393,19 +22156,11 @@ necessary we can make it larger. Maybe we can configure this too? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:18:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: putting pamphlets on MathAction -Cc: list Sorry to say, Martin, but even though you tried to document the API of the package constructors, your code is much in the spirit of the old @@ -25468,16 +22223,11 @@ On 09/14/2006 05:56 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > > Thanks for everything, > -> Martin - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:48:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:48:09 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Subject: RE: Doyen Docs On September 14, 2006 11:58 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -25505,20 +22255,11 @@ noweave et al. I've just done a temporary fix and it should be working again now. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:18:49 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "'Kai Kaminski'" , Tim Daly +To: Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: conferene call -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:18:49 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 14, 2006 9:46 AM Kai Kaminski wrote: > @@ -25585,19 +22326,10 @@ My SkypeName is: billpageathome Let's get together sometime soon - the more people the better. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:24:50 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:24:50 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Subject: RE: putting pamphlets on MathAction Martin, @@ -25638,37 +22370,24 @@ I believe in Gingko and Ginseng ... You are welcome (but it's going to cost you later! ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:21:11 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: conferene call -Cc: list, Kai Kaminski +Cc: Kai Kaminski Bill, Kai, can we choose a time and try a 3-way conference call just to test things out? -t - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:51:19 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: conferene call -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:51:19 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Kai Kaminski, list +Cc: Kai Kaminski On September 14, 2006 2:21 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -25686,52 +22405,29 @@ Timing is complicated! Or any hour after that except dinner time (7:00 PM :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:50:11 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: conferene call -Cc: list, Kai Kaminski +Cc: Kai Kaminski I have a work conference call at 3:30 (it is currently 3pm here). It should last about 1 hour. I'll try to initiate a call to both of you once the work call ends. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:04:56 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_26144_16203083.1158264296840" - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> +To: list Subject: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -------=_Part_26144_16203083.1158264296840 - Tim, Bill, Gaby, Ralf: I need some advice: This is the response from Google to my request for more space: -*********************************************************************************** - You've certainly given us pause for discussion! 500MB or 1GB is a *lot* of space, especially for what's supposed to be just source code. We've been scratching our heads, wondering why your project needs so @@ -25751,39 +22447,12 @@ quota... perhaps you could clean up your repository's history? Trim it down to just necessary source code, and move the release .zips somewhere else for a while? -************************************************************************************ - -------=_Part_26144_16203083.1158264296840 - -Tim, Bill, Gaby, Ralf:
-
-I need some advice:
-
-This is the response from Google to my request for more space:

-***********************************************************************************
-
You've certainly given us pause for discussion!  500MB or 1GB is a
*lot* of space, especially for what's supposed to be just source code.
We've been scratching our heads, wondering why your project needs so
-much space.

Your project certainly looks mature and has a healthy community around
it, and we'd like to see it hosted at Google Code.  However, it also
looks like there's a lot of extra 'junk' in the repository... for -
example, the zips/ directory contains dozens of releases(?) of the
same package?  (And even random odd Arch packages, like 'tla'?)

We'd like people to *not* use Subversion as a package-distribution
system, but as a source distribution system.  (We're working on -
creating a dedicated 'downloads' feature right now, though!)  At the
moment, we'd be more comfortable giving you another 100MB of disk
quota... perhaps you could clean up your repository's history?  Trim
it down to just necessary source code, and move the release .zips -
somewhere else for a while?
-
-************************************************************************************
- -------=_Part_26144_16203083.1158264296840-- - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 22:50:40 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: conferene call -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 22:50:40 +0200 -Cc: list, 'Kai Kaminski' - -Bill Page writes: - - -[...] +Cc: Kai Kaminski | Tim Daly and I have used Skype ... but we never seemm to be in | online at the same time. :( @@ -25811,23 +22480,11 @@ indeed :-( Mine is: gdr.at.skype --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:02:08 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:02:08 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -25878,10 +22535,6 @@ Perhaps they think we are not serious? They certainly will not object to the current 12G of GCC -- Google invests lot of resources into GCC. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:09:17 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -25971,18 +22624,11 @@ Purpose: discuss how feasible conference calling is and whether skype can work Send your skype ID to Tim Daly so he can conference you in. -Tim - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:19:21 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:19:21 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' On September 14, 2006 5:02 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -26041,20 +22687,11 @@ comparisonn is rather moot. The problem is, I suppose that Axiom is not big enough to warrant direct Google investment but (almost?) too big for the Google Code project. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:21:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - -Cc: axiom-developer Hmmm, I must admit that they are right. We have lots of junk inside our repository. However, we cannot change the situation just by deleting the @@ -26090,27 +22727,11 @@ Has someone looked at the pictures in src/doc/ps ? To me more than half of them look generated by Axiom, the rest is screenshots of HyperDoc. Both have terribly low resolution. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:23:13 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - boundary="----=_Part_28505_8659675.1158268993401" - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> - - -Cc: axiom-developer - -------=_Part_28505_8659675.1158268993401 Gaby, @@ -26135,37 +22756,11 @@ SourceForge page, so the could see the community around Axiom. The source is not in their repositories, so I assume they did checkout it from SourceForge. -Regards, - -Alfredo - -------=_Part_28505_8659675.1158268993401 - -Gaby,

> Tell them, we're actively working on reducing zips (the can have a
> look at the build-improvements branch).  Furthermore, what
> it contains is really necessary for building Axiom for many, common, -
> target configuration.  And, we cannot move the zips somewhere else.

Is it possible that you or Tim or Bill can write to Ben Collins-Sussman :
-Ben Collins-Sussman ? He is the person who wrote the last email to
-me. You probably can explain in more detail than me why such a size
-is necessary.
-
> 1G is good for the moment.
 
-I think 200MB is the current size.
-
> Perhaps they think we are not serious?

In my first email I sent them links to  MathAction and the
-SourceForge page, so the could see the community around
-Axiom. The source is not in their repositories, so I assume
-they did checkout it from SourceForge.

-Regards,
-
-Alfredo
- -------=_Part_28505_8659675.1158268993401-- - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:31:35 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 14, 2006 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:31:35 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -26185,25 +22780,11 @@ I always thought it is "silver". I thought build-improvements should die (or be closed) once I'm finished. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:35:01 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> - - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:35:01 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -26223,24 +22804,11 @@ OK, I did not know that. Before reading your mail, I contacted a fellow GCC developer (a very long time GNU toolchain contributor) now at Google to know a bit about this issue. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:44:08 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> - - <4509C7DE.2050402@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:44:08 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26262,18 +22830,12 @@ solution at the moment. How much does a 100G drive cost these days? --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Sep 2006 01:06:34 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - ... reads: <>= # System dependent Makefile for the Intel/Linux platform @@ -26286,17 +22848,11 @@ Subject: Makefile.solaris9 stanza why is it described as an Intel/Linux platform? Just a copy-n-paste thinko? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:02:15 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:02:15 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 14, 2006 7:07 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -26320,20 +22876,11 @@ I suggest we delete it before somebody tries to use it. We don't need more flags and special cases in the source if we can avoid it. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:14:32 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Cc: list > More cruft. > @@ -26347,17 +22894,11 @@ Cc: list The C code uses this variable. look at src/lib/openpty.c.pamphlet. It is used as a -D variable on the C command line. -t - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:40:37 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:40:37 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 14, 2006 9:15 PM Tim Daly wrote: >... @@ -26380,20 +22921,11 @@ anywhere. Maybe I am blind. Can you give me a line number? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Cc: list > > > As far as I can see PLF is defined in Makefile.pamphlet but never > > > used anywhere in the source. @@ -26422,18 +22954,11 @@ which expands to mark the platform like gcc -DLINUXplatform. -t - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:59:03 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Ralf Hemmecke +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:59:03 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' On September 14, 2006 5:44 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -26513,22 +23038,11 @@ proportional amortized cost of the data center and the system operations and maintenance staff, etc... I think it becomes non-trivial. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:15:29 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:15:29 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Tim, Thanks. Now I see how it works. @@ -26582,20 +23096,11 @@ Anyway, I think all these flags are an unfortunate mess which should really (eventually) be handled by the more general and more standard autoconfig mechanisms. Right? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:23:42 -0400 From: Cliff Yapp Cliff Yapp To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - alternatives? -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:23:42 -0400 - charset="utf-8" -Cc: list On Wednesday 13 September 2006 11:56 pm, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -26671,20 +23176,11 @@ language considerations become secondary, except for the question of what language has the most potential for benefiting us at the 30 year horizon. -Cheers, -CY - - - \start +Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:31:40 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Axiom Conference Call Sept 14, 2006 -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:31:40 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Gaby, On September 14, 2006 5:32 PM you wrote: > @@ -26727,20 +23223,11 @@ than Gold, that I could not resist... :) And at least in this little exercise I did not find anything that I would classify as a Makefile bug. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:35:02 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -Cc: list > > But look at that file: src/input/mapleok.input.pamphlet > > -rw------- 1 hemmecke hemmecke 234633 2006-09-13 10:03 @@ -26764,17 +23251,11 @@ It is partially on the way to automating regression testing. Testing files are clearly part of the source control pile. Especially since they are run as part of the source code build. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:39:04 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -Cc: list > > Has someone looked at the pictures in src/doc/ps ? > > To me more than half of them look generated by Axiom, the rest @@ -26795,17 +23276,11 @@ problems I have to solve is how to place more than one image on a page. That's the one blocking condition to reproducing the Jenks book accurately. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:40:35 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Cc: list On September 14, 2006 9:42 PM you wrote: > > @@ -26824,17 +23299,11 @@ C is the least portable language there is (I know because I had to figure out most of those conditionals). That's one major motivation toward rewriting it in lisp. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:43:22 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Cc: list > So the answer to Gaby's original question then is that for Solaris > one would expect this variable should be something like: @@ -26863,18 +23332,11 @@ In theory, yes. In practice, no. I doubt anyone is going to figure out the possible combinations automatically and then re-port the code to the various platforms to ensure that it works. -t - - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:12:02 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On 09/15/2006 04:39 AM, root wrote: >>> Has someone looked at the pictures in src/doc/ps ? To me more @@ -26905,17 +23367,11 @@ So the actual source is MISSING or HIDDEN inside the Axiom book. Without a clear problem description, nobody is able to help. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:21:49 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150235.k8F2Z2328758@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On 09/15/2006 04:35 AM, root wrote: >>> But look at that file: src/input/mapleok.input.pamphlet @@ -26955,19 +23411,11 @@ than just inventing a new test environment. http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/software/aldor/aldorunit -Ralf - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:27:34 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:12:02 +0200) Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > No. The source is a Makefile that reproduces the graphs in exactly the > same way as they are now. BUT, for future versions of the Axiom Book, @@ -26980,19 +23428,11 @@ way to auto-screenscrape hyperdoc pages. Those images were made sometime in the early 90s. -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:28:58 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:12:02 +0200) Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > One of the outstanding problems I have to solve is how to place more > > than one image on a page. That's the one blocking condition to @@ -27006,20 +23446,11 @@ I recently bought a book (The Latex Graphics Companion) that appears to contain the solution. Now all I have to do is get educated. -t - - - - \start Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:36:57 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:21:49 +0200) Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150235.k8F2Z2328758@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1C4D.7050906@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > > mapleok IS an input file. I just took the time to document the > > expected results so you could tell if you got the right answer. @@ -27059,33 +23490,13 @@ Advocacy is volunteering. I have a solution in mind but you're welcome to implement something. We clearly need automated regression testing. -t - - - - - \start -To: "list" -From: William Stein - - - - - Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:24:28 -0700 +From: William Stein +To: list Subject: Fwd: Re: SAGE - - ------- Forwarded message ------- -From: "Enrique Acosta" -To: William Stein -Cc: -Subject: Re: SAGE -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:05:33 -0700 - -Hi, ...sorry for the delay. @@ -27155,23 +23566,14 @@ On 9/13/06, Enrique Acosta wrote: > > To take for a spin using vmware: > > > > http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenVmware.tar.gz -> > -> > -> - - - - \start -To: Cliff Yapp Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - alternatives? - <200609142223.43366.Cliff Yapp> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:25:33 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: Re: Aldor and Axiom - alternatives? -Cliff Yapp Cliff Yapp writes: +Cliff Yapp writes: | On Wednesday 13 September 2006 11:56 pm, Page, Bill wrote: | @@ -27221,16 +23623,11 @@ that is called research :-) In five years, we might yet another (new) language is better suited... --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:33:39 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:33:39 +0200 -Cc: 'axiom-developer' Bill Page writes: @@ -27270,19 +23667,11 @@ My suspicion was that since silver is going to the the mainline, we would have more and more people looking at it -- otherwise we don't succeed :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:35:32 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request - <200609150235.k8F2Z2328758@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1C4D.7050906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150336.k8F3avX28854@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:35:32 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -27294,18 +23683,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: The question is whether you're going to require it be in lisp :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:40:00 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 14, 2006 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:40:00 +0200 -Cc: list - -Bill Page writes: | Gaby, | @@ -27345,30 +23727,11 @@ attempt and of course would like results available to people as soon as possible. But I fear that "pre-mature" testing with negative results might make people turn away. Or the contrary. -Anyway, thank you! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:44:18 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: enriqueacostajaramillo@gmail.com +To: Enrique Acosta Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: SAGE - boundary="----=_Part_35183_13955353.1158295458905" - - - - - - -Cc: William Stein, - "list" - -------=_Part_35183_13955353.1158295458905 - - Hi Enrique, Hi, > @@ -27421,33 +23784,11 @@ iso: based Knoppix. We could add Sage to it. - Regards, - - Alfredo - -------=_Part_35183_13955353.1158295458905 - - Hi Enrique,

Hi,

...sorry for the delay.

Well, I downloaded the CD and tried it on my laptop and it didn't -
work, but then I tried it on my desktop computer and it did!

  Sorry to hear that you had problems.

-I think its a great thing to have and to distribute, although I had serious
problems mounting my USB drive and my HDD (I wasn't able to do it at
all) by some issues with user priviliges.

  I assume that your HDD has windows and a NTFS partition. I will look into -
  these problems.

  You can always also do "sudo su" to become root and mount devices, but
   this should be working automatically...my bad :-( .
 
-I don't know if its because
I'm a complete Lunix morron, or just because there is really and
issue. Well.

  Not you are not :-). Your feedback right now is one of the most important
  things to improve Doyen. -

Anyway, its too bad that it doesn't work with my laptop! I guess it
has to do with the compatibility of the Linux live CD with my -
laptop...its a relatively old Dell (Latitude CPi), which even has some
issues running the Knoppix live CD. I put the CD in and it doesn't
even start loading,

  That puzzles me. Never seem it breaking at that point...one of the things is -
  that Fedora version works better with certain machines...Knoppix on others.
 
   I would really appreciate if you can do something for me. Download this iso:

   -http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/doyen04262005.iso

   Let me know if it boots up properly on your laptop. That is a version based
   Knoppix. We could add Sage to it.

   Regards,

   Alfredo -
  

- -------=_Part_35183_13955353.1158295458905-- - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:42:32 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:42:32 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27476,16 +23817,11 @@ not, then I'm sure I did compose the mail. It is on my TODO list to remove it along with a better structuring. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:44:25 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:44:25 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27509,17 +23845,11 @@ there was a reason for it. Yes. I have a plan for that. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:47:15 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:47:15 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -27550,17 +23880,11 @@ don't think this particular is stuff is handled the proper way. Please, no. Lisp does not look more portable than C to me. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:48:24 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150243.k8F2hMT28776@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 06:48:24 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -27583,27 +23907,11 @@ Tim Daly writes: yes, but the name is what people see. It must be meaningful, are at least not induce the wrong expectation. (my original question). --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:55:30 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Enrique Acosta" +To: Enrique Acosta Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: SAGE - boundary="----=_Part_35331_16301641.1158296130965" - - - - - - -Cc: "list" - -------=_Part_35331_16301641.1158296130965 - - Enrique, Well, I downloaded the CD and tried it on my laptop and it didn't > work, but then I tried it on my desktop computer and it did! I think @@ -27624,31 +23932,11 @@ you Probably I can look for one similar to try to reproduce the error. - Regards, - - Alfredo Portes - -------=_Part_35331_16301641.1158296130965 - -
 Enrique,

Well, I downloaded the CD and tried it on my laptop and it didn't
-work, but then I tried it on my desktop computer and it did! I think
its a great thing to have and to distribute, although I had serious
problems mounting my USB drive and my HDD (I wasn't able to do it at
all) by some issues with user priviliges. I don't know if its because -
I'm a complete Lunix morron, or just because there is really and
issue. Well.

  I am the morron :-). In that image, I forgot to add the doyen user to the
  proper groups. If you log out, and login as root, password: -doyen@org , you
  can see that it should detect your NTFS partition and the mounting should
  work fine. Again sorry for this.

   Also another favor, if you can give me the exact model of your laptop. Probably -
   I can look for one similar to try to reproduce the error.

   Regards,

   Alfredo Portes

- -------=_Part_35331_16301641.1158296130965-- - - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Sep 2006 00:15:30 -0500 -Subject: [build-improvements] first step toward a uniform - toplevel makefile - - -Hi, +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list +Subject: [build-improvements] first step toward a uniform toplevel makefile to make it possible to test on more platforms, especially, those NOT explicilty listed as being know to work, we need a uniform Makefile @@ -28314,18 +24602,11 @@ Tested on: <> @ - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:17:04 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:17:04 +0200 - Reis's message of "15 Sep 2006 06:47:15 +0200") -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -28365,19 +24646,12 @@ are long dead and forgotten. That could be argued, I guess. Besides Lisp has quite a few other advantages over C. :-) -Kai - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:26:41 +0200 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: putting pamphlets on MathAction -Dear Bill, - unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work yet. How can I make MathAction compile a pamphlet? @@ -28393,22 +24667,11 @@ GuessingFormulasForSequences. The pages Guess and SandBoxFFFG should be deleted. -Thanks a lot, - -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:10:22 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:10:22 +0200 -Cc: list Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -28449,16 +24712,11 @@ I followed this discussion with some interest. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:54:05 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:54:05 +0200 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -28498,23 +24756,12 @@ Martin > If I remove FFFGF, the build completes and FAMR2 is visible... > > What did I do wrong? -> -> Martin - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:54:36 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - - - -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:54:36 +0200 - Reis's message of "15 Sep 2006 11:10:22 +0200") -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -28541,17 +24788,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: Ok, I read the first dozen messages or so, but I'm not sure what you're aiming at (IEEE 754 or FFI?). Could you give me a hint? -Kai - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 12:20:42 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Sep 2006 12:20:42 +0200 -Cc: list Yet another question: @@ -28611,39 +24852,22 @@ Martin Rubey writes: > > If I remove FFFGF, the build completes and FAMR2 is visible... > > > > What did I do wrong? -> > -> > Martin - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:36:34 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on 15 Sep 2006 12:20:42 +0200) Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list pls tar up your copy of the spad code and i'll wrestle with it. i don't know the answer off the top of my head so it will take some work. --t - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 13:57:42 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200609151136.k8FBaYK29447@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Sep 2006 13:57:42 +0200 -Cc: list - ---=-=-= Tim Daly writes: @@ -29099,37 +25323,19 @@ Thanks in advance, Martin ---=-=-=-- - - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:59:51 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on 15 Sep 2006 12:20:42 +0200) Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list got it. working on it. --t - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:15:59 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - - - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:15:59 +0200 -Cc: list Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -29162,19 +25368,11 @@ no, sorry reference to the wrong discussion http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2006/014315.html --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:28:16 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly, Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200609151159.k8FBxpK29473@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:28:16 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Tim, Dear Alfredo! @@ -29212,26 +25410,11 @@ I guess that I have no idea yet, why the constructors don't show up in HyperDoc. -Thanks a lot! - -Martin - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:47:43 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - - - - - -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:47:43 +0200 - Reis's message of "15 Sep 2006 14:15:59 +0200") -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -29269,20 +25452,11 @@ Ok, I guess it is about the fact that ANSI CL doesn't require IEEE-754 floating point? Maybe I'm dense, but I don't get what you're trying to say (seriously). -Kai - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:57:08 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200609151159.k8FBxpK29473@localhost.localdomain> - <9q3batco0v.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:57:08 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Tim, Alfredo, @@ -29337,40 +25511,20 @@ Martin Rubey writes: > to int. > > I have no idea yet, why the constructors don't show up in HyperDoc. -> -> Thanks a lot! -> -> Martin - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:21:19 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on 15 Sep 2006 14:57:08 +0200) Subject: Re: Help with adding algebra URGENT! - <9q8xklbgle.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9q8xkl2zyd.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200609151159.k8FBxpK29473@localhost.localdomain> - <9q3batco0v.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <9qu039xp7f.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list hmmm, something bogus going on with the databases... clearly this needs to be fixed. -t - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:05:15 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:05:15 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Subject: RE: putting pamphlets on MathAction On September 15, 2006 4:27 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -29426,19 +25580,10 @@ Good. To do that you can log in as a Zope user. If you like, I can do it for you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Kai Kaminski'" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:11:21 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: Building Axiom on axiom-developer.org Kai, @@ -29471,18 +25616,10 @@ The short story is that on the axiom-develop.org server you have to reduce the MAXPAGE size to 128*256 or else upgrade to a newer version of gcl-2.6.8pre. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Sep 2006 16:16:39 +0200 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: putting pamphlets on MathAction Bill Page writes: @@ -29527,24 +25664,11 @@ I really would like to do this, but I cannot log in. I clicked on admin and entered user kratt6 and my password, but it said "authentication failed"... Do I misremember my username or my password? -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 16:50:36 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Makefile.solaris9 stanza - <200609150240.k8F2eZ828772@localhost.localdomain> - - - - - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Sep 2006 16:50:36 +0200 -Cc: list Kai Kaminski writes: @@ -29559,18 +25683,11 @@ Kai Kaminski writes: the claimed portability of CL over C when basic things like that throw practitionners "out of the roof" :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:13:16 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - "'Kai Kaminski'" +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: Makefile.solaris9 stanza -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:13:16 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 15, 2006 10:51 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -29603,31 +25720,12 @@ What can we say? ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:24:55 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: William Stein - boundary="----=_Part_46042_21297433.1158333895581" - - - - - - - - -Cc: "list" Subject: Re: colinux -------=_Part_46042_21297433.1158333895581 - William, > Just out of curiosity, what were the issues with colinux that forced @@ -29657,67 +25755,24 @@ fact that Literal Programming is vital for these goals. Probably Tim and Bill extend on the idea. -Regards, - -Alfredo - -------=_Part_46042_21297433.1158333895581 - -William,

> Just out of curiosity, what were the issues with colinux that forced
-> you into using live Linux CD's, vmware, etc.?

I never used colinux.  The Doyen CD is based on Tim Daly's idea of a collaborative science platform: http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/ - .

The goal of the project is to provide a common collaborative environment, that
can be distributed in conferences, etc.

An example of this could be at Sage Days. It would be unlikely that everybody in -
the audience will have Sage on their machines, the same development tools,
experimental code, or  mathematical algorithms that you are demonstrating. You could provide them with a Doyen disk created for that conference (particular code, docs, etc.) and they will be able to reproduce exactly what you are showing without having to modify anything on their machines. Furthermore, with the help of a Local Wiki and a Online Wiki, the participants can make suggestions and improvements and these will be stored for future use. -

So the two key points here are providing a science collaborative environment and making code contributions more permanent. I should put emphasis on the fact that Literal Programming is vital for these goals.

-Probably Tim and Bill extend on the idea.

Regards,

Alfredo
 

 


- -------=_Part_46042_21297433.1158333895581-- - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:30:20 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: William Stein - boundary="----=_Part_46230_12379631.1158334220349" - - - - - - - - - -Cc: "list" Subject: Re: colinux -------=_Part_46230_12379631.1158334220349 - > Probably Tim and Bill extend on the idea. > That should be: Probably Tim and Bill can explain the Doyen idea better. :-) - Alfredo - -------=_Part_46230_12379631.1158334220349 - -
-Probably Tim and Bill extend on the idea.

  That should be: Probably Tim and Bill can explain the Doyen idea better. :-)

  Alfredo

- -------=_Part_46230_12379631.1158334220349-- - - - \start +Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:30:39 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <54odtlavgo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:30:39 -0400 -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! @@ -29905,48 +25960,13 @@ Camm Maguire writes: > > Maybe we should setup a mirror of the SourceForge SVN repository > > on the axiom-developer.org server? Then at least we would have an > > alternate site in case there is a network problem. -> > -> > Regards, -> > Bill Page. -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> > -> > -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:45:47 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: axiom.silver -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:45:47 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Camm, @@ -30061,19 +26081,11 @@ Bill Page. > > > > If we can agree on the interface, and on the Windows and Mac > > equivalents, I can get this into 2.6.8 before release. -> > -> > - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:44:16 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:44:16 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: timeout? Martin, @@ -30100,22 +26112,11 @@ On September 15, 2006 12:08 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > Could you please check? > -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - \start -Subject: [Fwd: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI] -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Kai Kaminski Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:48:35 +0200 -Cc: list - -Kai, - +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: [Fwd: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI] Thanks for your quick reply. I can not send a mail to you, gmx.de does not accept mails from my ISP, so I send it here. In fact I wanted to @@ -30142,10 +26143,6 @@ Greg P.S: I finally forwarded your mail to this list with some hesitations. -------- Message transf=E9r=E9 -------- -De: Kai Kaminski -=C0: Gregory Vanuxem -Sujet: Re: A Canonical Axiom GUI -Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:50:49 +0200 Gregory Vanuxem writes: @@ -30287,17 +26284,10 @@ almost trivial. You now know when the output is complete (when a well-formed answer has been received) and you can easily distinguish all kinds of information. -Kai - - - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Sep 2006 18:59:58 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: timeout? Bill Page writes: @@ -30323,22 +26313,11 @@ currently shipped with axiom... Thus, please either temporarily relax the time restriction (set it to 10 min, for example) or compile the file by hand... -Thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start -To: 'axiom-dev' -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit - awaitsmoderator approval] -From: Jay Belanger Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:26:52 -0500 - "Thu\, 14 Sep 2006 13\:13\:48 -0400") -Cc: - +From: Jay Belanger +To: list +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Axiom-commit awaitsmoderator approval] Bill Page writes: ... @@ -30351,16 +26330,10 @@ compile farms, but I can't track down where I read it. Maybe I dreamed it. Does anyone know if there's another compile farm similar to sourceforge's? -Jay - - - \start +Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:39:19 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:39:19 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: timeout? Martin, @@ -30400,19 +26373,10 @@ This does not seem to happen during the usual build of Axiom. It was easy for me to change it to 60 minutes. So you should have plenty of time to compile now. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:18:55 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Troy Dawson - Sep 2006 15:28:50 -0500) -Cc: list Subject: Re: Interest in Scientific Linux > Hello, @@ -30442,16 +26406,10 @@ mailing list so I can understand what the current concerns are for Scientific Linux and to connect with developers who have an interest in working together. -Tim Daly - - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:14:21 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: mercurial source code control system http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki @@ -30469,19 +26427,11 @@ http://indico.cern.ch/contributionDisplay.py?contribId=29&sessionId=4= 9&confI d=44 -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 08:47:13 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: mercurial source code control system -Cc: list > We are already using 4 different source code control systems in > the Axiom project (CVS, ARCH, SVN, DARCS) and no one is entirely @@ -30494,16 +26444,11 @@ Seriously, who is using CVS? Should we consider to drop keeping the CVS archive(s) in sync with GOLD? Should we drop CVS support? This synching process is needless work in my eyes... and we don't have so much resources. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 16 Sep 2006 09:00:10 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: mercurial source code control system -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Sep 2006 09:00:10 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -30530,15 +26475,10 @@ it looks like we are more effective at replicating the base source code in many VCS than actually moving it forward :-/ (that includes me) --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 Sep 2006 13:11:41 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: timeout? Bill Page writes: @@ -30552,19 +26492,10 @@ don't really know what code is on mantepse2 now... The trouble is, MathAction doesn't tell me what happened... -Thanks for your support, - -Martin - - - - \start -To: Martin Rubey - <9qodtg5amq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 16 Sep 2006 13:57:32 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: timeout? Martin Rubey writes: @@ -30574,34 +26505,19 @@ Martin Rubey writes: I just realized that only the display doesn't work. The code was compiled alright. -Thanks, Martin - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Sep 2006 16:13:12 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: libspad, hash.o - -Tim, - Is there a reason why src/lib/hash.o is not put in the object archive src/lib/libspad.a? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:25:08 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 16 Sep 2006 16:13:12 +0200) -Cc: list Subject: Re: libspad, hash.o > Is there a reason why src/lib/hash.o is not put in the object @@ -30609,16 +26525,10 @@ Subject: Re: libspad, hash.o nope -t - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200609161425.k8GEP8P30522@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Sep 2006 17:21:19 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: libspad, hash.o Tim Daly writes: @@ -30630,10 +26540,6 @@ Tim Daly writes: OK, thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -30683,22 +26589,11 @@ value, and I want to create a symbolic matric where all I know about the entries is their type, in order to do general solving operations. How would I set this up correctly in Axiom? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 16 Sep 2006 18:51:09 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Sep 2006 18:51:09 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -30772,20 +26667,11 @@ internal representation is something like How would you represent a generic polynomial? You need a different domain for that. -Martin - - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list - - ---- Martin Rubey wrote: +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... > Currently, you can't. Note that you promise axiom that a1 is a > Quaternion Fraction Integer. However, you don't hold your promise... @@ -30854,25 +26740,12 @@ simplifications, and otherwise provide more precise answers Sorry if this is an obviously trivial question. -Cheers, -CY - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:36:58 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <200609161515.k8GFFKV30550@localhost.localdomain> - <450C36A0.6070900@mssrc.com> -Cc: list, llambe@mssrc.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: AXIOM 138] +Cc: Larry Lambe Gaby, @@ -30898,16 +26771,10 @@ wanted to see all domains. I clicked "yes" and it brought up only plotting work. The latter is working in the Sept 2005 version that I recompiled on my current system. Should I try another branch? Thanks, - -t - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:57:08 -0400 From: Tim Daly -To: llambe@mssrc.com -Cc: list +To: Larry Lambe Subject: (no subject) The build-improvements branch uses automake. @@ -30920,18 +26787,11 @@ but Gabriel (Gaby) is the author of the new makefiles and can answer questions about it better than I can. He's copied here as Gabriel Dos Reis -t - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:03:23 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list - -HI Cliff, On 09/16/2006 07:18 PM, C Y wrote: > --- Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -31013,20 +26873,12 @@ list on 29-Aug-2006 is a first attempt but not as fully functional as you would like. But don't worry, we come to that. However, I think that it is not going to work in SPAD. -Ralf - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200609161515.k8GFFKV30550@localhost.localdomain> - <450C36A0.6070900@mssrc.com> - <200609161836.k8GIawU30679@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Sep 2006 22:09:32 +0200 -Cc: list, llambe@mssrc.com +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Fwd: AXIOM 138] +Cc: Larry Lambe Tim Daly writes: @@ -31114,16 +26966,12 @@ on build-improvements, hyperdoc is not working because of a path issue quickly if Larry was to test the build-improvements branch and he needs it. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Sep 2006 22:10:48 +0200 -Cc: list, llambe@mssrc.com +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: none +Cc: Larry Lambe Tim Daly writes: @@ -31140,17 +26988,11 @@ indeed. Let me know if you encounter problems. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 16 Sep 2006 22:20:39 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - <450C588B.4060505@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Sep 2006 22:20:39 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31172,18 +27014,11 @@ Yesterday, it took me very time lines to code some simple symbolic expression manipulation in Mathematica. The thing in Axiom would have eaten my evening :-( --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... > HI Cliff, @@ -31333,22 +27168,11 @@ integers couldn't you deal with some integrals that you couldn't otherwise deal with, in cases where the function isn't well behaved in the negative numbers but is in the positive? -Cheers, -Cliff - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 16 Sep 2006 23:19:46 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 16 Sep 2006 23:19:46 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -31364,17 +27188,11 @@ in Axiom and in Aldor: m(a1: Q, a2: Q, a3: Q, a4: Q): Matrix Q == matrix[[a1,a2],[a3,a4]]; -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 16 Sep 2006 23:29:04 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Sep 2006 23:29:04 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -31409,18 +27227,11 @@ some type. That is a different story. With systems that do systems like Axiom that do actually computations, you have to go through an additional indirection. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - ---- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... > | Wouldn't that information be associated with the variable n? > @@ -31446,22 +27257,11 @@ I'm not sure I'm totally clear on the distinction. After all, Axiom can do things like integrate(1/(1+x^4),x) and provide a result - how is that not a symbolic manipulation? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Cliff Yapp Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:59:22 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... Le samedi 16 septembre 2006 =E0 13:54 -0700, C Y a =E9crit : @@ -31492,19 +27292,11 @@ completely crazy :-) I don't know what can I think about the expression rt this to IssueTracker, I consider this as critical. -Greg - - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:09:11 +0200 -Subject: [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender] to - gmx.de - -Hello, +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: [Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender] to gmx.de Sorry for polluting the axiom-developer mailing list, this is the last time. May be you know why some mails were accepted (1/3). My ISP was @@ -31540,10 +27332,6 @@ mx038} TO command) pi=E8ce jointe message de courriel, "Undelivered Message" -------- Message transf=E9r=E9 -------- -De: Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem -=C0: Kai Kaminski -Sujet: About gmx.de -Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:38:18 +0200 Hello, @@ -31554,21 +27342,11 @@ mail. I'm asking if my ISP has some problems actually, for example I receive mail from axiom-developer in an incorrect order, may be this is related. -Greg - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:43:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - <9qmz8zse4t.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list - -Hi On 09/16/2006 11:19 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -31617,17 +27395,11 @@ Seems that not everything is first class... :-( Oh yes, thank you Martin, that was a stupid mistake of mine. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 02:03:19 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - <9qmz8zse4t.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <450C8C18.3040400@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 02:03:19 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31637,16 +27409,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: and airline companies would agree :-) --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 02:14:26 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 02:14:26 +0200 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -31692,16 +27459,11 @@ Yes. Notice that in that context "x" is interpreted as *symbol*, not as a value. Your declaration of "n" said it should be interpreted as standing for a value, but you did not say which. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:33:19 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list > The problem, as described to me, was having three matrices A, B and C. > C is known. The goal was to choose the elements of one of A or B then @@ -31733,21 +27495,11 @@ B: M := matrix [[B1, B2], [B3, B4]] Z := A*B - B*A - -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - - - ---- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... > | > But you want it to hold a token of some type. That is a > | > different story. @@ -31796,23 +27548,11 @@ defining a function f(x) that took the expression produced by integrating(1/(1+x^4),x) and numerically evaluated it for the given value of x? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:30:31 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:30:31 -0400 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On September 16, 2006 5:59 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > @@ -31830,20 +27570,11 @@ think I agree with Greg, this should be reported as a bug in IssueTracker. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:00:06 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:00:06 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 16, 2006 12:41 PM C Y wrote: @@ -32100,23 +27831,12 @@ about it? ;) (3) - 0.1985595415 9339336209 Type: Float ------------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 07:12:54 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 07:12:54 +0200 -Cc: list -Cliff Yapp writes: | --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | @@ -32235,16 +27955,11 @@ I thought that was supposed to be the _strenght_ of Axiom :-/ eval() --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 07:17:57 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 07:17:57 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32268,16 +27983,11 @@ Bill Page writes: FreeMonoid Variable Integer --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Question concerning types... To: Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Question concerning types... Thanks Bill and Gaby for very informative replys. Since I started this I'll add it to the FAQ ;-). @@ -32285,24 +27995,11 @@ I'll add it to the FAQ ;-). Thanks for the subst pointer Bill :-). Sometimes the obvious just won't come :-/. -Cheers, -CY - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:28:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -Cc: list > | > Intuitively I would expect Variable to mean simply "an > | > unspecified specific instance of a Domain/Type/what have you" @@ -32390,17 +28087,11 @@ to contain a function foo: (%, %) -> Boolean. Variable(Integer) does however not export anything about its argument. So who is going to find out that such a foo exists? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 09:44:05 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Sep 2006 09:44:05 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -32439,11 +28130,6 @@ Go to a common lisp and say (+ a b) -Martin - - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:42:15 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -32459,18 +28145,11 @@ send you skype id to Tim Daly. The way skype is organized only one person can host a conference and he has to 'invite' people. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 16:25:26 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - - <450CF922.3020405@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 16:25:26 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32576,18 +28255,12 @@ The process would be that of lifting operations from D to Variable(D). Notice, this isn't a problem for programming languages. Think about it from Universal Algebra perspective. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:41:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <54odtlavgo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <54r6yd9mg0.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, Jaroslov Rosenberger +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -32602,17 +28275,12 @@ makeinfo is missing. I think the installation should be allowed to complete -- the documentation will just be missing, but that is OK for many uses. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:58:52 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -Cc: list, William Sit +Cc: William Sit On 09/17/2006 04:25 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32766,10 +28434,6 @@ given code to do that, I believe it should not be implemented that way. Because an element that looks like (2/1)/(3/1) is NOT identical to 2/3. (Just consider fractions as equivalence classes of pairs of some type. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -32815,23 +28479,12 @@ http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-07/msg00144.html http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-07/msg00201.html -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 21:18:59 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - - <450CF922.3020405@hemmecke.de> - - <450D8CDC.70204@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 21:18:59 +0200 -Cc: list, William Sit +Cc: William Sit Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -33044,17 +28697,11 @@ By the same token we should prevent Axiom from simplifying 3+2 to 5. I don't follow. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:28:42 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Papers on Indefinites -Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:28:42 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Cliff, @@ -33088,20 +28735,12 @@ is a very important contribution. What he is describing here is directly related to the implementation of the Expression domain constructor in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:44:44 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:44:44 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, William Sit +Cc: William Sit On September 17, 2006 1:59 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -33268,19 +28907,11 @@ I don't understand. Obviously Expression is a domain that the SPAD compiler understands. Implementing Expression in Aldor should be quite straight forward. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 22:38:25 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Papers on Indefinites -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 22:38:25 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -33304,16 +28935,12 @@ Bill Page writes: As I said earlier, think of it as use of types programming languages. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 17 Sep 2006 22:46:00 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Sep 2006 22:46:00 +0200 -Cc: list, William Sit +Cc: William Sit Bill Page writes: @@ -33332,22 +28959,12 @@ Why? I don't follow. Could you elavorate? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:09:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: axiom.silver - <54odtlavgo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <54r6yd9mg0.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Jacob Smith Jaroslov Rosenberger - - -Camm, +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger Following up on my earlier message, is it OK to apply this to gcl-2.6.8pre CVS? I'm using it in the GCL version present in Axiom @@ -33444,17 +29061,12 @@ diff -p -r1.23.6.4.2.1 makefile install: $(GCL_DVI) $(GCL_HTML) mkdir -p $(DESTDIR)${INFO_DIR} - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:23:20 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: GCL on MAC OSX (powerpc) -Camm, - I spent the day trying to build axiom on the MAC. GCL builds and generates a lisp image that works. (I'm using the Xcode development environment). @@ -33464,16 +29076,12 @@ image will NOT work. I'm rewriting the Makefiles to handle a pure-lisp image build. -t - - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2006 03:11:44 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: GCL on MAC OSX (powerpc) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2006 03:11:44 +0200 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Tim Daly writes: @@ -33487,38 +29095,24 @@ Tim Daly writes: What are the symptoms? --- gaby - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Sep 2006 03:24:20 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends - -Tim -- - My understanding, from reading src/lib/Makefile.pamphlet, is that sockio-c.o is contained in libspad.a. So why is it specified again in lsp/Makefile.pamphlet when building a fresh lisp image from GCL? Also, is there a reason why cfuns-c.o is not archived in libspad.a? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:02:41 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 18 Sep 2006 03:11:44 +0200) Subject: Re: GCL on MAC OSX (powerpc) - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire > | I spent the day trying to build axiom on the MAC. > | GCL builds and generates a lisp image that works. @@ -33539,17 +29133,12 @@ GDB for a while but got nowhere. Can't get Martin's stuff to work, can't get MAC stuff to work. Made no perceptible progress at all this weekend. sigh. -t - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:11:27 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 18 Sep 2006 03:24:20 +0200) -Cc: list Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends +Cc: list > My understanding, from reading src/lib/Makefile.pamphlet, is that > sockio-c.o is contained in libspad.a. So why is it specified again @@ -33562,11 +29151,6 @@ they are required to be part of the image so axiom can talk to sman, the superman process that managed communication with hyperdoc and graphics. -t - - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:25:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -33582,39 +29166,20 @@ less current but it would be nice to have available. If the copyright on it permits, mightn't this also make a good appendix in the Axiom Tutorial? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:45:13 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:25:58 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? -Cc: list > Is the LaTeX source code of this also available somewhere? src/doc/Rosetta.pamphlet -t - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Sep 2006 04:55:08 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends Tim Daly writes: @@ -33637,16 +29202,11 @@ I guess another way to phrase my question is what is the difference between specifying an object file directly, from as included via libspad.a? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: Re: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? Thanks Tim. I added a comment to the RosettaStone page - I can't seem to edit the page itself, perhaps because of the large number of > Is the LaTeX source code of this also available somewhere? > > src/doc/Rosetta.pamphlet -> -> t -> -> - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:21:21 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:21:21 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 17, 2006 11:17 PM C Y wrote: > @@ -33731,23 +29277,10 @@ eliminate the ban on links inside pamphlet files since spammers are unlikely to go to the trouble of editing LaTeX/noweb pages. (There would still be a restriction in the comments section of the pamplet page.) -What do you think? - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:40:23 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 18 Sep 2006 04:55:08 +0200) - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends > I guess another way to phrase my question is what is the difference @@ -33767,21 +29300,10 @@ code which is written at run time. axiom contains lisp code that uses the symbols externed by cfuns and sockio. -t - - - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609180440.k8I4eNs06937@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Sep 2006 08:45:38 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends Tim Daly writes: @@ -33799,18 +29321,10 @@ Tim Daly writes: Aha! So, in fact we can just remove libspad.a from that list since nothing in GCL references symbols from libspad.a. Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:31:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: several images on one page Sorry, Tim, I am unable to find it. @@ -33828,18 +29342,12 @@ On 09/15/2006 05:28 AM, root wrote: > I recently bought a book (The Latex Graphics Companion) > that appears to contain the solution. Now all I have to > do is get educated. -> -> t - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:14:41 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -Cc: list On 09/17/2006 09:18 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34086,18 +29594,11 @@ hand it to a prover (who then spits out that * is commutative). Good to hear that we are on the same side. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:57:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list -Subject: equal or unequal (was: Question concerning - types...) +Subject: equal or unequal (was: Question concerning types...) Hi Gaby, @@ -34210,22 +29711,11 @@ the interpreter which forbids to build "Fraction(Fraction(Integer))". (But you agreed to put no such knowledge into interpreter or compiler. Or do you change your mind now?) -Ralf - - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2006 13:00:43 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - - <450CF922.3020405@hemmecke.de> - - <450D8CDC.70204@hemmecke.de> - - <450E7191.3020604@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2006 13:00:43 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34453,16 +29943,11 @@ something, and progress. Latter you can prove that something from more "primitive" blocks. But, the real practice rarely is starts from "primitives" and head directly to the final bits. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:23:50 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list >> I agree with you that if D had type T then Variable(D) should >> have type T (plus maybe some exports that allow to create @@ -34555,23 +30040,11 @@ That should be a test case for indefinite computation. Of course the Expression type is known. But is should not be built-in into the compiler. It should live in a library. -Ralf - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - - <450CF922.3020405@hemmecke.de> - - <450D8CDC.70204@hemmecke.de> - - <450E7B90.2060500@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Sep 2006 13:21:21 +0200 -Cc: list -Subject: Re: equal or unequal (was: Question concerning - types...) +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: equal or unequal (was: Question concerning types...) Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34713,18 +30186,11 @@ As I said, I want the system powerfull enough to understand algebraic properties, in particular idempotency. Also, think of commuting constructors, that is another area where you have lot of troubles. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:44:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? To: Bill Page -Cc: list - ---- Bill Page wrote: +Subject: RE: LaTeX source of the Rosetta document? > On September 17, 2006 11:17 PM C Y wrote: > > @@ -34777,23 +30243,11 @@ unless there is an automatic sync between the two. That sounds good to me. Thanks Bill! -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:03:49 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -Cc: list On 09/18/2006 01:00 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34966,20 +30420,11 @@ would be an axiom. > A theorem in one system, is just an axiom in another one. > Where you start greatly depends on needs and contexts. -Right. - -Ralf - - - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2006 14:03:51 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - <450E81C6.2050409@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2006 14:03:51 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34996,17 +30441,11 @@ Why not? Why can't I just construct a suspesion for that operation? yes, but that does not negate the lifting semantics. Does it? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:18:15 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Question concerning types... - -Cc: list On 09/18/2006 02:03 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -35027,16 +30466,11 @@ On 09/18/2006 02:03 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: I don't understand. What I said *is* the lifting semantics. If there is no / on Integer there is not / on Indefinite(Integer). That's what I said. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:31:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -35066,28 +30500,10 @@ meaningfull algebraic objects. Please go ahead with your refreshing discussion... -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institute for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:39:03 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 18 Sep 2006 08:45:38 +0200) - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609180440.k8I4eNs06937@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends > Aha! So, in fact we can just remove libspad.a from that list since @@ -35100,16 +30516,11 @@ that it was needed. i could be wrong. the only way to be sure is to eliminate it and then test. -t - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:07:29 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bertfried Fauser Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list Good that you join, @@ -35151,20 +30562,10 @@ I think, I said something like that here. http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-09/msg00548.html -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:13:31 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:31:36 +0200) - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> - <450E5968.1090603@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Subject: Re: several images on one page > Sorry, Tim, I am unable to find it. @@ -35192,22 +30593,10 @@ If you're interested take a look at the Jenks book for a page that contains multiple images and then look at the latex code in src/doc. See if you can reproduce the multiple image page. -t - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:07:39 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Tim Daly, list - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> - <450E5968.1090603@hemmecke.de> - <200609181313.k8IDDVW07477@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: several images on one page Hi Tim, @@ -35228,23 +30617,10 @@ margin that sometimes holds explanatory text. Seems that book.pamphlet is not the original source since that text on the top-left of page 183 is not tagged as such. Do you still have the original source somewhere? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:21:44 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:07:39 +0200) - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> - <450E5968.1090603@hemmecke.de> - <200609181313.k8IDDVW07477@localhost.localdomain> - <450EA82B.9050609@hemmecke.de> - J_CHICKENPOX_48 -Cc: list Subject: Re: several images on one page > I see book.pamphlet and bookvol1.pamphlet in src/doc. What is what? @@ -35284,23 +30660,11 @@ by hand from multiple file sources. It took approximately 4 months. Are you planning to be one the skype conference call? -t - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:38:57 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: re: several images on one page -From: Jay Belanger - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> - <450E5968.1090603@hemmecke.de> - <200609181313.k8IDDVW07477@localhost.localdomain> -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:38:57 -0500 - of "Mon\, 18 Sep 2006 09\:13\:31 -0400") -Cc: - Tim Daly writes: ... @@ -35320,25 +30684,12 @@ LaTeX will try extra hard to put the float where you ask. Or, I suppose, there's no reason why the image has to be in a float; you could just insert it where you want. -Jay - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:50:41 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly - <200609150239.k8F2d4R28766@localhost.localdomain> - <450A1A02.8060906@hemmecke.de> - <200609150328.k8F3Swl28850@localhost.localdomain> - <450E5968.1090603@hemmecke.de> - <200609181313.k8IDDVW07477@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: several images on one page -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------060208020507040601010209 - > At various places in the Axiom (Jenks) book there are supposed to > be multiple images on the page. Nothing I tried would place an > image where I wanted it. Images "float" and tend to move to the @@ -35356,8 +30707,6 @@ tried in the attached file.) Hope that helps. -Ralf - --------------060208020507040601010209 name="rhxbook.pamphlet" filename="rhxbook.pamphlet" @@ -35563,17 +30912,11 @@ just the range with no independent variable. \end{document} ---------------060208020507040601010209-- - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:42 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:42 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 18, 2006 7:24 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -35769,19 +31112,11 @@ Axiom's 'simplify' operations are quite weak. ??? Expression is not "built-in" to the SPAD compiler. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Question concerning types... To: Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Question concerning types... Sorry in advance if this question is a bit daft... @@ -35797,22 +31132,11 @@ Sorry in advance if this question is a bit daft... Does this mean that an indefinite integer couldn't be substituted in anywhere a "definite" integer could be used? -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:15:49 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:15:49 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 18, 2006 1:50 PM C Y wrote: > @@ -35866,13 +31190,6 @@ The only concern I have is whether or not Polynomial Integer is "big enough" to model everything that we would want to mean by "indefinite integer". -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:58:34 -0400 From: Tim Daly @@ -35947,20 +31264,11 @@ End: 2pm Tim will be generally unavailable until next monday evening. The next scheduled conference call will be announced later. -Tim, for the group - - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:54:45 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:54:45 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list > > On September 18, 2006 1:50 PM C Y wrote: @@ -36028,30 +31336,12 @@ Bill Page. > The only concern I have is whether or not Polynomial Integer is > "big enough" to model everything that we would want to mean by > "indefinite integer". -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> - - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:14:36 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 -Cc: list > 9) Google objects to having binaries in the zips directory. > It was agreed that since Google was only a method of getting @@ -36061,17 +31351,11 @@ Cc: list Should the project be deleted from: http://code.google.com/p/axiom/ ? - - \start +Date: 18 Sep 2006 22:13:47 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Sep 2006 22:13:47 +0200 -Cc: list - - -Tim -- Many thanks for posting the summary of the conference. @@ -36101,18 +31385,11 @@ in both case, I think it was Gaby, not Kai :-) | Tim will be generally unavailable until next monday evening. -Have fun! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:55:44 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list >> I understand that "indefinite" thing just as a way to encode >> a delayed evaluation. In the "computation" that is done just @@ -36300,16 +31577,11 @@ homomorphism of rings that maps Z[x] to the rational numbers sin(%Pi * a2) does not simplify to 0 in general. But if the interpreter "knows" that a2 is an integer, the simplification is safe. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:22:43 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list Ah... I forgot to say... if ever indefinite integers come to life then a syntax like @@ -36343,16 +31615,11 @@ Type: Void then I believe the interpreter already does that. It just is not smart enough to apply the information it has. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:52:21 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 -Cc: list > 3) Tim spent time this weekend looking into Martin's build issues > without success. @@ -36414,21 +31681,11 @@ USERLAYER=\ Using patch 50 at this point Hyperdoc doesnt work anymore. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Question concerning types... To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list - ---- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: +Subject: Re: Question concerning types... > Ah... I forgot to say... if ever indefinite integers come to life > then a syntax like @@ -36447,22 +31704,10 @@ a good starting point to determine if indefinites would be useful in a library. Checking user defined Maple and Mathematica packages might also be of interest. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:24:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: Re: equal or unequal On 09/18/2006 01:21 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -36640,19 +31885,11 @@ idempotent. Are we discussing system matters or personal issues? -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:03:54 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:03:54 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Alfredo, On September 18, 2006 6:52 PM you wrote: > @@ -36677,23 +31914,11 @@ hyperdoc and graphics both fail, that should be a clue but the interaction with Martin's modified build procedure is still entirely unclear to me. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start +Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:19:00 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:19:00 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Ralf, > On September 18, 2006 12:02 PM Bill Page wrote: > ... @@ -36802,22 +32027,11 @@ Consider: for example as a possible representation of such a domain involving two indefinite integers. - - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:39:43 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 - <00c001c6db7f$300ff700$6900a8c0@asus> -Cc: list > So, just to confirm: if you follow all 10 of Martin's steps starting > with patch-49 do you obtain a working version of Axiom including @@ -36826,15 +32040,11 @@ Cc: list Yes. I just finished a new trial again with 49 and 50 at the same time. 50 breaks, 49 doesn't. I hope somebody can reproduce this. - - \start +Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:06:38 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:06:38 +0200 - of "Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:58:34 -0400") -Cc: list Sorry for disappearing suddenly, my internet connection went down. I'm not sure what the problem was but it works again. @@ -36870,16 +32080,11 @@ Again that's Gaby. > Tim agreed to share work with the student. I AM a student, I don't have them. So that was Gaby, too. -Kai - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:20:59 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/TheUnknownInComputerAlgebra.pdf @@ -36919,17 +32124,11 @@ code should take care about indefinite objects. I very much believe that this requires reflection from SPAD/Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:25:07 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: Question concerning types... -Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:25:07 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On September 19, 2006 11:21 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -37007,38 +32206,22 @@ in a static strongly typed language. Why? I do not see reflection as essential in a statically typed language. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: list Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:31:48 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: Verbatim LaTeX in src/doc/book.pamphlet -Hello, - At line 15282 of src/doc/book.pamphlet (page 299 in the produced DVI file) the polynomial wrote in LaTeX mathematical mode (display) is enclosed in a verbatim environment. The verbatim environment can be removed. -Greg - - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:17:53 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 - <00ad01c6db65$3938ee50$6900a8c0@asus> -Cc: list > In spite of planning the mirror the SourceForge SVN archive on > axiom-developer.org, I think maintaining a smaller archive on Google - @@ -37055,14 +32238,11 @@ is completed and added to Silver -> Gold. Should I put Silver on the repository? - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:08:56 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Question concerning types... -Cc: list On 09/19/2006 06:25 PM, Bill Page wrote: >>> It is certainly a wrong design to implement indefinite integers @@ -37162,20 +32342,11 @@ Don't take me too serious. All that discussion is just to make the concept clearer. Code is still far away, especially a good design for indefinite objects. -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference Call - Sept 18, 2006) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:58:42 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference - Call Sept 18, 2006) -Thread-Index: AcbcD5jQZeIZ/QJ2RxSiSvkdvksv+gAFUtXw From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list +Subject: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006) On Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:18 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: > @@ -37201,19 +32372,11 @@ currently the branch that best meets Google's requirement that we not attempt to re-distribute other packages as part of our source tree. But Silver trunk still has a lot of that dead wood. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:09:18 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference - Call Sept 18, 2006) - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006) > The terminology is still rather confusing, but from my point > of view the axiom.build-improvements branch is a branch of @@ -37234,17 +32397,10 @@ was a better option, and also a smaller one :). I was about to test something to keep both repositories in sync, but I got a quota error again. Apparently Google did not increase the size to 200 MB. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:19:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Google Code repository Hi Bill, @@ -37269,17 +32425,10 @@ Whatever we put there, we are probably only doing this to be present at Google. I guess nobody will seriously use the Google repository until build-improvements is merged with Silver. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:49:08 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbcKKY+1CfdAIBjR/O2FB5j09VemgAAjmNQ From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: Google Code repository On Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:19 PM Ralf Hemmecke @@ -37338,16 +32487,10 @@ people to at least try the latest experimental versions. As an Axiom developer that is the only version I am really interested in. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:13:35 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Google Code repository >> The point is that we should *not* call the whole SourceForge SVN @@ -37380,19 +32523,11 @@ created so I think we should stick to it (until somebody is bold). ;-) No. BTW, why cannot axiom--windows--1 be merged with axiom--main--1? Is it so different? -Ralf - - - \start -To: Alfredo Portes -Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference - Call Sept 18, 2006) - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Sep 2006 23:10:44 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006) Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -37401,19 +32536,11 @@ Alfredo Portes writes: I got an email that the hosting team would get into contact with me. I'll ping them. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 19 Sep 2006 23:12:05 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: Google Code repository -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 19 Sep 2006 23:12:05 +0200 -Cc: list - -Bill Page writes: - [...] @@ -37424,20 +32551,11 @@ Bill Page writes: I agree with this sentiment. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:31:52 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference - Call Sept 18, 2006) - - - -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Google Code repository (was: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006) On 19 Sep 2006 23:10:44 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -37452,16 +32570,10 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Thanks Gaby. - - \start Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:35:47 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbcMD+N1b4jJ5V9So6sp/5b6CLRMgAAjHIg From: Bill Page -To: Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Bill Page Subject: RE: Google Code repository On Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:14 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -37488,22 +32600,12 @@ MSYS/MinGW environment and also can start with a previously installed version of GCL which simplifies things significantly on Windows. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: axiom.silver Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:15:40 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom.silver -Thread-Index: AcbY2/XRZ1kREYCiT4KfxLRoZcnZQwDmovEQ From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -Camm, +Subject: RE: axiom.silver +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis On Friday, September 15, 2006 11:31 AM you wrote: > @@ -37683,13 +32785,10 @@ Bill Page. > > NIL > > ... - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:53:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Google Code repository On 09/19/2006 11:35 PM, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -37737,18 +32836,11 @@ tla star-merge arch@axiom-developer.org--axiom/axiom--main--1 Runs nicely, but gives a number of conflicts in the Makefiles which I feel unable to resolve. :-( -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:04:37 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Bill Page, - list -Cc: -Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom @@ -37771,19 +32863,11 @@ We simply have two many source archives and potential contributors have to ask at the axiom-developer mailing list which one contains the blessed sources. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:31:44 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions -Thread-Index: Acbck4+rhykhny2lQZm9DF7fXL00PgAAJWGw From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list -Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:05 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -37849,18 +32933,11 @@ Yes that is a problem. What is your suggested solution? If someone can prove that SVN actually does work reliably on Windows, then maybe that would be the best option? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:13:26 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions > We have discussed this before. The problem is that there is > no reliable version of tla for Windows. @@ -37937,21 +33014,12 @@ Probably, then axiom--windows--1 would exist as a branch on sourceforge. But to be honest, I would rather try to avoid that and better ask for help from developers knowledgeable in Windows to actually do the merge now. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:15:17 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: Acbckfw69eqKrUPGQcKcG5+sjO0aXgABZ29g From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: Google Code repository -Ralf, - On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:53 AM you wrote: > ... > Bill Page wrote: @@ -38021,18 +33089,11 @@ Lisp and partly in Lisp. This seems similar to a problem that Camm solved with using 2.6.8pre on linux. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:19:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions > We have discussed this before. The problem is that there is > no reliable version of tla for Windows. @@ -38109,21 +33170,11 @@ Probably, then axiom--windows--1 would exist as a branch on sourceforge. But to be honest, I would rather try to avoid that and better ask for help from developers knowledgeable in Windows to actually do the merge now. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:45:24 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions -Thread-Index: AcbcnSt75A+VYix4SiqB3DuOhJ2m8wAA8VkQ From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list -Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions - -Ralf, +Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:13 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -38186,20 +33237,11 @@ I am still tempted to look for solutions outside of all of the archive systems we have tries so far. The more I read about Mercurial the more I like it... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:58:56 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom for Windows on GCL-2.6.8pre (was: Google Code repository) -Thread-Index: Acbckfw69eqKrUPGQcKcG5+sjO0aXgABZ29gAAKav1A= From: Bill Page To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Axiom for Windows on GCL-2.6.8pre (was: Google - Code repository) +Subject: Axiom for Windows on GCL-2.6.8pre (was: Google Code repository) On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:15 AM I wrote: > ... @@ -38228,18 +33270,11 @@ version of gcl in both Linux and Windows once Camm officially releases 2.6.8. The Windows version of Axiom was last successfully compiled only with a patched version of gcl-2.6.5. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:01:47 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions >> svn co -r1 https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/trunk trunk >> cd trunk @@ -38260,18 +33295,11 @@ Does that happen already at "svn co -r1"? And http://gallery.menalto.com/node/53820 also did not help? :-( -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:08:57 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions - <45111F9B.6010606@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions On 9/20/06, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > >> svn co -r1 https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/trunk trunk @@ -38292,21 +33320,11 @@ On 9/20/06, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Same error here. It happens when you do the update. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:12:28 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions -Thread-Index: Acbco+u3PgG4eSczTJek6/Aucix7oAAAShOw From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list -Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +Subject: RE: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions Ralf, @@ -38361,20 +33379,11 @@ protocol. * ra_local : Module for accessing a repository on local disk. - handles 'file' scheme ------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:25:02 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Bill Page, list -Cc: -Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions >>> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default' >>> svn: REPORT of '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read @@ -38395,20 +33404,11 @@ So maybe the sourceforge people should do something... And Bill maybe you should be careful when setting up apache for SVN on axiom-developer.org. -Ralf - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:43:24 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions - -Cc: list - -Bill, +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions > > And http://gallery.menalto.com/node/53820 also did not help? > > :-( @@ -38423,20 +33423,11 @@ I found it under \Documents and Settings\"local user"\Application Data\Subversion directory, however this didn't fix the problem. -Alfredo - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions - <4511250E.1000506@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 20 Sep 2006 15:28:23 +0200 -Cc: list - -Ralf Hemmecke writes: +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions | >>> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default' | >>> svn: REPORT of '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read @@ -38455,18 +33446,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: So do I not see hose failure when using SVK? (SVK is just an SVN client). --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build - instructions -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <45111446.90204@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:54:21 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows build instructions Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 =E0 12:13 +0200, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : [...] @@ -38487,22 +33471,12 @@ tla one) up to Gold patch-50 but I first need to know why the bug #312 is specific to Axiom on Linux (see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-math/2006-08/msg00035.html) -Greg - - - - \start -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:57:34 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Thread-Index: Acbc3eZr5hvyJ5UoR2+k/lC79cIibQADQryg From: Bill Page -To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list, - Ralf Hemmecke +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:54 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > @@ -38556,19 +33530,12 @@ patch suffix to the archive name, like this: $ tla get axiom--main--1-patch-49 axiom-49 ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:14:48 +0200 -Cc: list, - Ralf Hemmecke +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 =E0 16:57 -0400, Page, Bill a =E9crit : [...] @@ -38629,20 +33596,12 @@ tested individually each modified file without success. So it seems to me that the bug was introduced in the interpreter or somewhere else but not in the algebra files. I could be wrong though. - -Greg - - - - \start Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: list Subject: An idea - Axiom Survey Team ---0-858945582-1158812513=:99537 - This idea came out of some IRC discussions between myself and Kai a little while back, and I thought we might as well bring it to the list. One of the drawbacks to the current Axiom codebase is that while the @@ -39608,13 +34567,10 @@ vv79X/H3/wEEBa5UAIACAA== --0-858945582-1158812513=:99537-- - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:14:07 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Exact Number Domain Here's a proposal @@ -39640,16 +34596,11 @@ Comments? (I'm on the road until monday evening so email access is extremely questionable) -t - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:30:16 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Exact Number Domain -Cc: list On 09/21/2006 03:14 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > Here's a proposal @@ -39662,20 +34613,11 @@ No it is not. At least not until you reveal what you understand by a BTW, how would you store \pi in a finite way? Is it 1 in base \pi? -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: RE: Exact Number Domain Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:43:36 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Exact Number Domain -Thread-Index: Acbdf9gKZtDHps//QnuN/it3jko48gAAGLEg From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list - -Tim, +Subject: RE: Exact Number Domain It is well known that in general real numbers do not have any exact representation that "terminates" in this sense. @@ -39698,16 +34640,11 @@ On Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:14 AM Tim Daly wrote: > they always have an exact representation that terminates? > ... - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:54:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Exact Number Domain -Cc: list - -Dear Tim, a very cute question indeed. The approach proposed by Bill Page is quite interesting in that way, that the completition of a number field can be @@ -39728,27 +34665,11 @@ infinitely) represent the number. Over all it seems to be very complicated and I would not expect such a representation to be helpful for numeric calculations (speedwise) at all. -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institute for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - \start -To: Alfredo Portes, - Timothy Daly Tim Daly, Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 - <00c001c6db7f$300ff700$6900a8c0@asus> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 21 Sep 2006 16:07:18 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Alfredo Portes, Tim Daly, Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: Axiom Conference Call Sept 18, 2006 Dear all, especially Alfredo and Bill! @@ -39773,12 +34694,6 @@ too. Antoine: could you make your univariate holonomic package available? That would be splendid. -Thanks again, - -Martin - - - Alfredo Portes writes: > > So, just to confirm: if you follow all 10 of Martin's steps starting @@ -39787,25 +34702,12 @@ Alfredo Portes writes: > > Yes. I just finished a new trial again with 49 and 50 at the same time. > 50 breaks, 49 doesn't. I hope somebody can reproduce this. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:18:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Cc: list - -Hi, +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions >> The file src/doc/ps/segbind.ps is only available >> in the tla repository @@ -39830,22 +34732,11 @@ rewriting that could be automated and these .ps files in src/doc/ps could go away. Note that we should then also be able to produce higher resulution pictures (if Axiom allows it). -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:55:00 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Thread-Index: AcbdiIz+TH0hdlu1Q86QpoANvt4w0wAAsTQg From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions On Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:19 AM you asked: > ... @@ -39898,21 +34789,11 @@ using a package called 'Pexpect' from reading the code that does this in Sage. But I haven't had enough extra time available to contine work on this. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: RE: Exact Number Domain Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:20:57 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Exact Number Domain -Thread-Index: AcbdhYE56Zxk+qmESSSL7n3R83ktWgACd+iw From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list - -Bertfried, +To: Bertfried Fauser +Subject: RE: Exact Number Domain On Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:54 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -39954,18 +34835,11 @@ http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/packages/optional I would like to be able to do this in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:26:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Cc: list +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions On 09/21/2006 04:55 PM, Page, Bill wrote: >> echo "draw(...)" | axiom > picture.ps @@ -39987,22 +34861,11 @@ refers to, I am out of business. :-( But I really really wonder, why X is a must for draw and/or write. Does Axiom (through LISP) call some functions from X? -Ciao -Ralf - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions - <4512AF2C.5070805@hemmecke.de> -From: Kai Kaminski Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:10:26 +0200 - 21 Sep 2006 17:26:36 +0200") -Cc: list - ---=-=-= +From: Kai Kaminski +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -40973,20 +35836,11 @@ YmlibGlvZ3JhcGh5fXs5OX0KXGJpYml0ZW17MX0gbm90aGluZwpcZW5ke3RoZWJpYmxpb2dyYXBo eX0KXGVuZHtkb2N1bWVudH0K --=-=-=-- - - \start -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:26:43 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Thread-Index: Acbdkhy4TaNb+9p+RMuhhT6jRTW99wAAUpyA From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions On Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:27 AM you wrote: > @@ -41063,21 +35917,12 @@ commands to Axiom Graphics via a session socket. No, not directly. Only by sending a command to another process that does that work. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: list -From: Kai Kaminski Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:51:04 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski +To: list Subject: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET ---=-=-= - -Hi, - I've 'literated' VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET (the result is attached), which contains compatibility/utility code. In particular, I did the following: @@ -42751,29 +37596,14 @@ b2dyYXBoeX17OTl9ClxiaWJpdGVtezF9IG5vdGhpbmcKXGVuZHt0aGViaWJsaW9ncmFwaHl9Clxl bmR7ZG9jdW1lbnR9Cg== --=-=-=-- - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:52:45 -0700 From: Alfredo Portes To: list - - - <#14.4648867.7a454e5a.45072f85.1cb0@google.trakken.com> - - - <944683b40609141206k41b5b5eetce9d89ee8970ea0e@mail.google.com> - - <944683b40609210926t6c0b9e01o3d4638d87c69944@mail.google.com> Subject: Fwd: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Collins-Sussman -Date: Sep 21, 2006 9:26 AM -Subject: Re: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: Google Code Team - On 9/19/06, Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -42784,16 +37614,11 @@ On 9/19/06, Alfredo Portes wrote: I've added another 150MB, bringing your total quota to 250MB. Let us know how it goes! - - \start -Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:55:24 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Thread-Index: AcbdmvSWl3ElV7hTSamfD0/f844L9AAAx7pg From: Bill Page -To: "Kai Kaminski" -Cc: list +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET On Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:51 AM Kai Kaminski wrote: > @@ -42815,23 +37640,11 @@ become parge of the main Axiom distribution. Personally, I much prefer this approach rather than the single-file monolithic "book volume" approach that Tim Daly has proposed. -Thank you, Kai! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Subject: re: Google Code repository Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:53:15 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbcMJoI3JZgJiTOROKkm9vRo7L0iABcEkDQ From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - -Gaby, +Subject: re: Google Code repository I am having a terrible time trying to install both subversion as a server and svk on the axiom-developer.org server. @@ -42883,28 +37696,13 @@ use of Perl than I am could suggest where to go from here? who liked cvs ... ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem +Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:51:17 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Google Code repository -Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:51:17 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : axiom-developer-bounces+g.vanuxem=wanadoo.fr@nongnu.org -> part de Page, Bill -> Envoye : jeudi 21 septembre 2006 19:53 -> A : Gabriel Dos Reis -> Cc : list -> Objet : re: Google Code repository - > [page@axiom-developer page]$ svk > Can't locate Class/Autouse.pm in @INC (@INC contains: @@ -42935,28 +37733,13 @@ make make test make install -Greg - - - - \start -From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page, - Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:12:26 +0200 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : Page, Bill [mailto:Bill Page] -> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 21 septembre 2006 18:27 -> =C0 : Ralf Hemmecke -> Cc : Vanuxem Gr=E9gory; axiom-dev; Bill Page -> Objet : re: [build Axiom] updated Windows -> buildinstructions > This is part of the communications interface between Axiom and > Axiom Graphics. Axiom Graphics is a separate program written in @@ -42969,31 +37752,15 @@ related code not used. I reread the sockio.lisp.pamphlet file and found the functions used in the interpreter (I have never studied these parts of the intergreter). Sorry for this. -Greg - PS: Humm... shame on me. - - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: "Kai Kaminski" , - -Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:23:30 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : axiom-developer-bounces+g.vanuxem=wanadoo.fr@nongnu.org -> part de Kai Kaminski -> Envoye : jeudi 21 septembre 2006 17:51 -> A : list -> Objet : Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -> -> -> Hi, > > I've 'literated' VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET (the result is attached), which > contains compatibility/utility code. @@ -43003,20 +37770,12 @@ Awesome! I quickly read your file and you have used Many thanks for Axiom. -Greg - - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:37:36 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: list - Subject: Re: Google Code repository -Bill, - > Well, this is open source development which mean "release early > and releas often". The more accessible our experimental branchs > are, the more they will be tested and the better our software @@ -43037,20 +37796,11 @@ Can you please add something in the page: http://code.google.com/p/axiom/ explaining like you did in your comment above that this repository is an experimental version. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:10:50 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Cc: list - -Kai, I don't much understand lisp, but what you did in literating the code is just super. @@ -43122,21 +37872,11 @@ sure that the compilation will run through. Good luck for all your work to come. Axiom will benefit from it. Acually we need more people like Kai. -Ciao -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: re: Google Code repository Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:09:23 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbdruYg5/dv1jB1Sr2LOnHaCbEd2AACM2mg From: Bill Page To: Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list - -Greg, +Subject: re: Google Code repository On Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:51 PM you wrote: > @@ -43261,20 +38001,11 @@ Running make install So, any ideas how to fix this one? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:31:08 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:31:08 +0200 - Gregory's message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:23:30 +0200") -Cc: list - -Gregory Vanuxem writes: >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : axiom-developer-bounces+g.vanuxem=wanadoo.fr@nongnu.org @@ -43295,17 +38026,11 @@ Thanks for pointing that out, but it's not my fault. Those section headings were there before. I only changed them from \section to \subsection. It's fixed now. -Kai - - - \start +Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:41:19 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:41:19 +0200 - 21 Sep 2006 22:10:50 +0200") -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -43397,20 +38122,12 @@ and I couldn't, since I reordered code. There's not really a good way around that, I believe. -Kai - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:45:14 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbdtS1N9xDEMnP6RQi2TR1hr/mP5QACN0lQ From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Google Code repository - -Alfredo, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:36 PM you wrote: > @@ -43436,18 +38153,12 @@ would be good to have both /trunk and our current favorite /branch. How's this? http://code.google.com/p/axiom -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:33:21 -0700 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Google Code repository +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Bill, @@ -43475,20 +38186,12 @@ Do you think that is ok? Thank you, it looks very good. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:33:54 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbdtS1N9xDEMnP6RQi2TR1hr/mP5QACN0lQAADmbUA= From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Google Code repository +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Alfredo, @@ -43574,21 +38277,13 @@ http://www.selenic.com/mercurial It seems to be just as "fast and easy" as advertised and I can use it successfully on both Linux and Windows. Installation was a piece-of-cake (here that subversion developers! ;) -=09 -Regards, -Bill Page. - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:02:24 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Google Code repository - -Bill, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > When I try this anonymous checkout I get: > @@ -43624,20 +38319,12 @@ going on. That was in your windows or linux box? I am at revision 151. -Alfredo - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:37:01 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbdyamLaG2e9B23TiaoIjqcjdshEgAAM0fw From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes, Bill Page -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Google Code repository - -Alfredo, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis On Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:02 PM you asked: > @@ -43694,26 +38381,13 @@ and file:// access is just local. Please give it a try and let me know if it works for you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:05:18 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page, Gregory Vanuxem Subject: re: Google Code repository -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:05:18 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : Page, Bill [mailto:Bill Page] -> Envoye : jeudi 21 septembre 2006 22:09 -> A : Vanuxem Gregory -> Cc : list; Gabriel Dos Reis; -> Bill Page -> Objet : re: Google Code repository [...] @@ -43775,18 +38449,11 @@ Or maybe modifying the open call with a "<:byte" or a "<:utf8" could help (see perldoc PerlIO). But this requires to modify this module, it's not a good solution. Is there some Perl gurus here? -Greg - - - - \start Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:31:51 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - -Cc: list >> I think since you are not deleting or modifying code, you should just >> check, whether the notangled .lisp file is identical to the one from @@ -43838,18 +38505,11 @@ should show that the two files are equal. So what is "reorder"? -Ralf - - - \start -Subject: re: Google Code repository Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:51:38 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: Acbd0mJyl0+k49YNT+GzToWbRWbeEwABUkjw From: Bill Page To: Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list +Subject: re: Google Code repository Greg, @@ -43896,27 +38556,13 @@ Now I finally have a working I think you are well qualified for that job. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:26:04 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page, Gregory Vanuxem Subject: re: Google Code repository -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:26:04 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : Page, Bill [mailto:Bill Page] -> Envoye : vendredi 22 septembre 2006 01:52 -> A : Vanuxem Gregory -> Cc : list; Gabriel Dos Reis; -> Bill Page -> Objet : re: Google Code repository [...] @@ -43929,20 +38575,12 @@ Cc: list But the execution... A "LANG=C svk ..." will be necessary I think. -Greg - - - \start Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:49:08 -0400 -Thread-Topic: patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom for Windows on - GCL-2.6.8pre -Thread-Index: Acbckfw69eqKrUPGQcKcG5+sjO0aXgABZ29gAAKav1AATqyD4A== From: Bill Page To: Bill Page -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Subject: patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom for - Windows on GCL-2.6.8pre +Subject: patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom for Windows on GCL-2.6.8pre +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:59 AM I wrote: @@ -44182,28 +38820,14 @@ Wed Sep 20 21:33:10 2006 There, that's all there is too it. :-) Now you can build Axiom on Windows with the newest prerelease version of GCL. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -From: =?us-ascii?Q?Vanuxem_Gregory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page -Subject: RE: patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom - forWindows on GCL-2.6.8pre Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:01:37 +0200 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom forWindows on GCL-2.6.8pre +Cc: Camm Maguire > -----Message d'origine----- -> De : axiom-developer-bounces+g.vanuxem=wanadoo.fr@nongnu.org -> part de Page, Bill -> Envoye : vendredi 22 septembre 2006 02:49 -> A : Bill Page -> Cc : Camm Maguire; list -> Objet : patches to daase.lisp.pamphlet and Axiom -> forWindows on GCL-2.6.8pre [...] @@ -44219,21 +38843,11 @@ and http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/194TracingComplexOnWindows -Greg - - - - \start -Subject: re: Google Code repository Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:36:17 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: Acbd3bK4j2gbAt0KRlWxgJUjqhldtwAD0rzg From: Bill Page To: Gregory Vanuxem, Bill Page -Cc: list - -Greg, +Subject: re: Google Code repository On Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:26 PM you wrote: >... @@ -44278,19 +38892,11 @@ or anything. End result: I still have serious doubts about svn and svk. :( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:18:39 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:18:39 +0200 - 22 Sep 2006 01:31:51 +0200") -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -44328,18 +38934,11 @@ functions etc. > should show that the two files are equal. That's what I was planning to do, but it didn't work. -Kai - - - \start Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:26:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <4512F1CA.8010809@hemmecke.de> - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > %FILE 1 > <<*>>= @@ -44384,19 +38983,11 @@ essence becomes clear. That is much more important then having identical .lisp files. Identical up to permutation of functions is enough for lisp files. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:02:28 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "'Juan M. Bello Rivas'" +To: Juan Rivas Subject: re: Google Code repository -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:02:28 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Hello Juan, Welcome to the Axiom Developer list :-) @@ -44426,23 +39017,11 @@ source code respository, then at least we can interoperate. E pluribus ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:34:57 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:34:57 +0200 - 22 Sep 2006 11:26:53 +0200") -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -44511,19 +39090,11 @@ anyway, so the whole point is moot. Thanks for taking the time to discuss - admittedly boring - details. -Kai - - - \start Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:14:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <4512F1CA.8010809@hemmecke.de> - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > Not quite. This whole BL*H thing is thoroughly confusing. I'll just > give you the real code (kind of). @@ -44576,22 +39147,11 @@ But all our experiences must be collected some day on the wiki or another document to help newcomers with this LP style in Axiom. It's important. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:18:49 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:18:49 +0200 - 22 Sep 2006 17:14:36 +0200") -Cc: list - -Ralf Hemmecke writes: >> Not quite. This whole BL*H thing is thoroughly confusing. I'll just >> give you the real code (kind of). @@ -44723,20 +39283,11 @@ you put up the example you gave (the Groebner basis fragment). It is. That doesn't really make discussing the intricate details of chunking exciting, though. ;-) -Kai - - - \start Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:41:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <4512F1CA.8010809@hemmecke.de> - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list >> Hmmm, I am not sure I can support that approach. For two reasons. >> @@ -44816,21 +39367,11 @@ make colored dvi in a similar style. But all that is not LISP, but you might get an idea how I think Axiom should look like. -Ralf - - - \start +Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:48:46 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> - <45141251.4080107@hemmecke.de> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:48:46 +0200 - 22 Sep 2006 18:41:53 +0200") -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -44919,22 +39460,11 @@ to say anything about it. > make colored dvi I'll take a look. -Thanks, -Kai - - - \start Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:11:27 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <4512F1CA.8010809@hemmecke.de> - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> - <45141251.4080107@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list >> Have you, for example ever used >> @@ -44975,20 +39505,11 @@ part, it could probably also support the documentation of LISP code. I'll wait until I find time to understand Gaby's new build process to move some ideas from ALLPROSE to the Axiom code. -Ralf - - - \start -To: Kai Kaminski -Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Comments: In-reply-to Kai Kaminski - message dated "Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:51:04 +0200." Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:23:37 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: list - -Hey, +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Kai Kaminski wrote: @@ -45021,19 +39542,11 @@ Tree additional questions concerning the literate source I have by now: How formal should a pamphlet be? Rather a heuristically description what happens (with reference) or better Definiton, Theorem ... ? -Frithjof - - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 05:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Frithjof Schulze, Kai Kaminski Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -To: Frithjof Schulze, - Kai Kaminski -Cc: list - ---- Frithjof Schulze wrote: > I tried the same with eigen.spad.pamphlet. As a beginning I > structured the file, commented the functions I understand (although @@ -45105,24 +39618,11 @@ this point it is far more critical to get good, accurate literate content - we don't want to drive away contributions due to style nitpicks. Those kinds of things can be fixed later. -My 2c, - -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start +Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:54:09 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Frithjof Schulze Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:54:09 +0200 - 23 Sep 2006 12:23:37 +0200") -Cc: list Frithjof Schulze writes: @@ -45184,15 +39684,12 @@ PS: I tried to edit the page to remove a typo or two, but it kept nagging me to register, even though I already did that. I can also edit other pages. Any idea? - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:03:44 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: Kai Kaminski, list -Subject: Pamphlet style (was: Literated - VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET) +Subject: Pamphlet style (was: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET) +Cc: Kai Kaminski Hello! @@ -45344,20 +39841,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/PamphletStyle. And add your experience and vision of how pamphlets should look like. Hopefully, we will soon have some good guideline for new contributors. -Ralf - - - - \start -To: Kai Kaminski -Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - -Comments: In-reply-to Kai Kaminski - message dated "Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:54:09 +0200." Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:32:09 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: list +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Kai Kaminski wrote: @@ -45395,18 +39883,12 @@ is just a reference which pamphlet defines a special notation. Is it possible that I locked the page with zope-external-edit? It still doesn't really works here. -Frithjof - - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:57:30 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Frithjof Schulze Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <7687.1159007017@localhost> - <20525.1159018329@localhost> -Cc: Kai Kaminski, list +Cc: Kai Kaminski Hi Frithjof, @@ -45440,21 +39922,11 @@ AMS-LaTeX.) If you then still have problems ask again. - -Ralf - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <451530B0.1000803@hemmecke.de> -Comments: In-reply-to Ralf Hemmecke - message dated "Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:03:44 +0200." Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:08:24 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: list -Subject: Re: Pamphlet style (was: Literated - VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET) +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Pamphlet style (was: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET) Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -45510,21 +39982,12 @@ No. What you wrote could actually be used in the wiki. I don't have that much 'visions' now. It will take some time until there is a whole guideline, but I will start one. -Frithjof - - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <20525.1159018329@localhost> - <45153D4A.6070000@hemmecke.de> -Comments: In-reply-to Ralf Hemmecke - message dated "Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:57:30 +0200." Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:26:04 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: Kai Kaminski, list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET +Cc: Kai Kaminski Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -45533,16 +39996,10 @@ Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Thanks. testmath.tex is exactly what I was looking for: examples. -Frithjof - - - \start -From: Bill Page -To: "'Frithjof Schulze'" Frithjof Schulze Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:05:07 -0400 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Frithjof Schulze Subject: Literated eigen.spad.pamphlet On Frithjof Schulze September 23, 2006 6:24 AM wrote: @@ -45611,22 +40068,11 @@ that might make the mathematician more comfortable :-) but it is not necessary at this point - especially if you can find some basic references. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start +Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:07:33 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: "'Kai Kaminski'" +To: Kai Kaminski Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:07:33 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Kai, On September 23, 2006 8:54 AM you wrote: > @@ -45642,13 +40088,6 @@ or login. Are you still having problems? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp @@ -45679,23 +40118,12 @@ practice. Unfortunately parsers and language grammars seem to be something of a non-trivial topic. Is there anyone here for whom that would be an interesting direction to work? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:13:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: SPAD grammar and parsing -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, - list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner > The first one is whether there is a grammar for the SPAD language. If > memory serves, the answer to this is no there is not, but there is a @@ -45709,16 +40137,10 @@ How else could Christian Aistleitner have written a parser for Aldor? Bill, hasn't Christian sent you the code? Is that somewhere public? What license? -Ralf - - - \start Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:25:13 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Frithjof Schulze - <451530B0.1000803@hemmecke.de> <20655.1159020504@localhost> -Cc: list Subject: Re: Pamphlet style >> I hope that was not too long... @@ -45731,19 +40153,10 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandboxPamphletStyle I have no idea why it appears in a "verbatim" style. :-( -Ralf - - - \start -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <451530B0.1000803@hemmecke.de> <20655.1159020504@localhost> - <4515A639.2010602@hemmecke.de> -Comments: In-reply-to Ralf Hemmecke - message dated "Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:25:13 +0200." Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:43:17 +0200 From: Frithjof Schulze -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Pamphlet style Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -45752,21 +40165,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Latex couldn't understand the \begin{blah} ... \end{blah} stuff. - -Frithjof - - - \start +Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:24:52 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:24:52 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: Sage on Doyen -Alfredo, - I have finally updated the MathAction darcs repository http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathActionRepository to include the changes I made to MathAction to support Sage \begin{sageblock} @@ -45843,18 +40247,11 @@ ________________________________ Regards, JAP - - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:49:18 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: Sage on Doyen Bill, @@ -45901,22 +40298,12 @@ http://doyen.sytes.net . I will let you know when I update this with your version on MathAction. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start +Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:44:29 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:44:29 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list Subject: RE: Sage on Doyen -Alfredo, - On September 24, 2006 9:49 PM you wrote: > > > I have finally updated the MathAction darcs repository @@ -46086,20 +40473,12 @@ TUESDAY: Coding sprints: * 2:00 - 4:00pm: Progress reports and plan for the future - - - - - \start +Date: 25 Sep 2006 13:03:00 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom.silver -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 25 Sep 2006 13:03:00 -0400 -Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -Greetings! +Cc: Jaroslov Rosenberger, Gabriel Dos Reis Bill Page writes: @@ -46303,34 +40682,12 @@ Take care, > > > > > > NIL > > > ... -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:39:04 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:26:36 +0200) -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions - <4512AF2C.5070805@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - -Ralf, +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions > Does somebody know why X11 is required? Axiom was also sold on Windows > if I am not completely wrong. How did NAG produce graphics there? @@ -46352,26 +40709,13 @@ All of the processes communicate thru sockets. Viewman does all of the drawing work using X11. -t - - - \start +Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:17:38 -0400 From: Bill Page -To: +To: list Subject: FW: RE: Google Code repository -Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:17:38 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" - - -----Original Message----- -From: 'Juan M. Bello Rivas' [mailto:jmbr@superadditive.com] -Sent: September 25, 2006 3:09 AM -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: Google Code repository - - On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:02:28AM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > Welcome to the Axiom Developer list :-) @@ -46394,23 +40738,11 @@ as well consider switching to mercurial. The fact it is coded in Python, a language in which I'm more fluent than in Haskell, is also a strong point in its favor. --- -Juan M. Bello Rivas - - - - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:24:49 +0200 +From: Christian Aistleitner To: Ralf Hemmecke, Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: SPAD grammar and parsing -From: Christian Aistleitner - <45158776.1090409@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - -Hello, On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:13:58 +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -46433,21 +40765,11 @@ According to my mail client, I sent the code to Bill on 2005-10-20 I wrote to the mailing list the same day saying that anyone who wants to have the code, should drop me a line. I found no lines in my inbox. --- -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:37:47 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 21 Sep 2006 18:10:26 +0200) -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions - <4512AF2C.5070805@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions > To address your problem: I seem to remember that there is a simple way > to print the plot data (i.e. the list of points) to the console. If @@ -46458,18 +40780,11 @@ program called ViewAlone on them. There are many examples of saved output in the source tree. See src/graph/viewAlone/parabola.VIEW -t - - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:46:20 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 21 Sep 2006 17:51:04 +0200) Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Cc: list The VMLISP file exists because the original sources were in MACLISP and were ported to VMLISP. Eventually they were ported to an early @@ -46493,19 +40808,11 @@ tests were made by using the disassemble function and counting actual machine instructions generated. In theory the two are equivalent but in practice they are not. -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:48:47 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= on Thu, - 21 Sep 2006 21:12:26 +0200) -Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows - buildinstructions -Cc: list +Subject: re: [build Axiom] updated Windows buildinstructions > Ho, I was totally wrong this week-end when I spoke about some socket > related code not used. I reread the sockio.lisp.pamphlet file and found @@ -46515,18 +40822,11 @@ Cc: list any chance you could capture some of this insight as documentation for the code? -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:06:32 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 21 Sep 2006 22:41:19 +0200) Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - -Cc: list > use lots of small functions. What is the difference between @@ -46560,20 +40860,11 @@ The second expression is immediately evaluated for effect. Depending on the situation the value of the top level form could have other side effects. -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:12:40 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 22 Sep 2006 16:34:57 +0200) Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list The 'alias' functions were defined following the philosophy of writing VMLISP functions in common lisp rather than changing @@ -46590,21 +40881,11 @@ functions completely. Bookvol5.pamphlet will not only be common lisp but will be ANSi common lisp. The net effect is that files like vmlisp will go away. -t - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:18:29 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Kai Kaminski - 22 Sep 2006 18:18:49 +0200) Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > 1) Aliases in general aren't terribly useful. @@ -46630,24 +40911,12 @@ function definition so it will have the correct definition on the second and subsequent uses. There are other automatic 'inline' operations that occur in order to speed up computation. -t - - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:29:25 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 26 Sep 2006 18:25:29 +0200) Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> - - <200609261518.k8QFIT020599@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, Kai Kaminski +Cc: Kai Kaminski > Indeed. That os very annoying for debug sessions. :-( @@ -46656,19 +40925,11 @@ gcc does code-motion, loop unrolling, beta substitution, operator promotion and many other things that make gdb sessions a pain. ultimately it's the final disassemble instruction counts that matter. -t - - - \start +Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:35:00 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - - <200609261506.k8QF6WO20583@localhost.localdomain> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:35:00 +0200 - of "Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:06:32 -0400") -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -46711,24 +40972,11 @@ INLINE-declaration might help. > could have other side effects. It is not a toplevel form. -Kai - - - \start +Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:43:40 +0200 +From: Kai Kaminski To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET - <451320E7.1010806@hemmecke.de> - <4513AC5D.60500@hemmecke.de> - <4513FDDC.2060608@hemmecke.de> - - <200609261518.k8QFIT020599@localhost.localdomain> -From: Kai Kaminski -Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:43:40 +0200 - of "Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:18:29 -0400") -Cc: list - -Hi Tim, I put your last two messages about the aliases in VMLISP.LISP together, I hope you don't mind. @@ -46772,21 +41020,12 @@ common ground. We finally agreed that chunking up and documenting Axiom's internals is a useful project, that anyone can participate in. -Kai - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:38:50 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom memory usage and GCL -Thread-Index: AcbhgWb1VAS1hMppRN2NCdkJDvQTXAAOR0kg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: RE: Axiom memory usage and GCL -Gaby, - On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:33 AM you wrote: > > Bill Page writes: @@ -46842,16 +41081,10 @@ changing CGLOPTS to specify a smaller default memory such as > ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Sep 2006 01:10:24 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom memory usage and GCL Bill Page writes: @@ -46904,21 +41137,12 @@ but I really wish Axiom were faster to compile. I hope to be at a point where I can start parallel make, but I first need to get this issue out of the way. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:41:54 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom memory usage and GCL -Thread-Index: AcbhwXQkjSsj1RehT5mdRxcsOqlojgAAqIAg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: RE: Axiom memory usage and GCL -Gaby, - On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:10 PM you wrote: > ... @@ -46958,16 +41182,10 @@ compile in such small memory? You did not explain this earlier. Do you suspect some Axiom coding error??? Or are you talking about a different issue. It is no longer clear to me. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Sep 2006 02:36:33 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom memory usage and GCL Bill Page writes: @@ -47011,18 +41229,11 @@ abstractions. have a different root from yours. Since, it takes long to compiler Axiom, it takes long to make progress. --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:56:01 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET -Thread-Index: AcbhkiR84TJjQ/UWSaWnSpxNjwZnvAAOkv+g From: Bill Page -To: "Kai Kaminski" -Cc: list +To: Kai Kaminski +Subject: RE: Literated VMLISP.LISP.PAMPHLET Too much context was removed by Tim in his reply and there was no reference to the specific email to which this was a reply so @@ -47144,21 +41355,13 @@ On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:35 PM Kai Kaminski wrote: > > could have other side effects. > > It is not a toplevel form. -> -> Kai -> - - \start -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Sep 2006 05:47:03 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Building Axiom - -Hi, - The time it takes to build Axiom is prohibitive. If the build is done only once a day, that is probably alright. @@ -47170,16 +41373,11 @@ What can be done to improve the build time? -- Gaby PS: yes, I consider that I have relatively "fast" machines. - - \start -Subject: RE: Building Axiom Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:05:20 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Building Axiom -Thread-Index: Acbh6AKtmWUWRmb4SJmLzUfAQNGCNgAAIf6Q From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Building Axiom On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:47 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -47207,17 +41405,11 @@ Also, interpsys (really the embedded GCL) runs gcc for each SPAD compile to compile the generated lisp to object code. Is there some way to make starting gcc faster? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 27 Sep 2006 08:33:22 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Building Axiom -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Sep 2006 08:33:22 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -47259,18 +41451,11 @@ Maybe the precompiled header capability would be an option but I doubt it gains us a significant speed up in the Axiom case, but who knows; we have to try. --- Gaby - - - \start -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Bill Page -Subject: Re: Building Axiom - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 27 Sep 2006 09:28:13 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page +Subject: Re: Building Axiom Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -47335,19 +41520,11 @@ every file that gets compiled, just as it is done now. I guess, the best way to speed up the build process is to document the compiler. -Martin - - - - \start +Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:52:18 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Building Axiom - - <9q7izpdb02.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:52:18 +0200 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -47407,17 +41584,10 @@ several files in row. Hear! Hear! Hear! --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:19:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes - - -Cc: list Subject: Re: Google Code repository On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -47435,15 +41605,10 @@ Yes, definitely. same here. --- gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:21:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: RE: Google Code repository On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -47462,18 +41627,11 @@ On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Page, Bill wrote: That is correct. - --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 27 Sep 2006 13:24:53 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: Axiom memory usage and GCL - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Sep 2006 13:24:53 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -47492,17 +41650,11 @@ before I take off to office. This is the first time I'm having a build of axiom.build-improvements going that far on a debian-based system. I suspect that is encouraging. --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:00:18 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 27 Sep 2006 05:47:03 +0200) Subject: Re: Building Axiom -Cc: list > The time it takes to build Axiom is prohibitive. > @@ -47528,17 +41680,10 @@ and while it builds, move to the next machine. third, have the build check for obj/sys/bin/lisp and if it exists skip the lisp build step (unless you are hacking that makefile). -t - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:30:45 -0400 -Thread-Topic: plone -Thread-Index: AcbiKrrrLeWs8TsxTgi6EvdePm//+AAEVNcg From: Bill Page To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: RE: plone Ralf, @@ -47609,18 +41754,11 @@ adoption of the wiki concept but on the other hand, after three years of watching closely it is clear to me that it is very gradually growing in popularity - not declining. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start +Date: 27 Sep 2006 19:37:11 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom - <200609271300.k8RD0In21294@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Sep 2006 19:37:11 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -47655,17 +41793,11 @@ needs to be addressed somehow. I have some students who will be poking at various parts of the system. I would hate they spend most of their time waiting for the compiler. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 28 Sep 2006 02:12:58 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: Axiom memory usage and GCL - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Sep 2006 02:12:58 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -47690,20 +41822,12 @@ those variables on command line in the first place. Now, I can ressurect my work on the boot directory (which I partly lost while digging this issue). -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Google Code repository -Thread-Index: AcbiJtnkvV/bXL/6QNa8vvRvXLYn0AAeEAQg From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Google Code repository +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Alfredo and Gaby, @@ -47760,20 +41884,12 @@ I am still struggling with get svn installed in server mode on axiom-developer.org but I hope to have more time to work on that soon. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:36:13 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page - -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Google Code repository - -Bill, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Alfredo, will you please contact Google and ask them to reset > it? @@ -47781,20 +41897,11 @@ Bill, Sure, I will. I do not know if Gaby can also contact the person he knows in google. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start +Date: 28 Sep 2006 13:54:08 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Alfredo Portes Subject: re: Google Code repository - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Sep 2006 13:54:08 +0200 -Cc: list Alfredo Portes writes: @@ -47813,19 +41920,11 @@ some tarballs in the Axiom sources. For this particular issue of "emptying" the repo, do you want me to contact them or do you prefer to handle it? --- Gaby - - - \start Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:07:57 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Google Code repository - - - -Cc: list On 28 Sep 2006 13:54:08 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -48132,8 +42231,8 @@ Bill Page. Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:10:10 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Alfredo Portes -Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request +Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman, Gabriel Dos Reis On Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:13 PM I wrote: > @@ -48917,7 +43016,7 @@ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:43:25 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request -Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman, +Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman Gaby, diff --git a/book/2006-10.txt b/book/2006-10.txt index a65f764..556b17b 100644 --- a/book/2006-10.txt +++ b/book/2006-10.txt @@ -280,8 +280,8 @@ reason for trying to keep things as simple as possible. Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:38:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman Subject: Re: Disk-quota Request +Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -505,8 +505,8 @@ Thanks! Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 00:15:22 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Ben Collins-Sussman -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Disk-quota Request +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > * Saying 'svn isn't ready for primetime' is mildly amusing to me. I'm > one of subversion's original designers, and the system has been @@ -5281,8 +5281,8 @@ Axiom 3.0 Beta (January 2005) \start Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 17:04:00 +0200 (CEST) -To: list From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Remove postprop.lisp.pamphlet? AFAICS postprop.lisp.pamphlet is unused: it is on list of files @@ -7042,8 +7042,8 @@ that compiles OK, but at runtime I get: \start Date: 07 Oct 2006 11:40:52 +0200 -To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Build-improvements and stamps Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -9173,8 +9173,8 @@ files appear to be different. \start Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:21:49 +0200 (CEST) -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Waldek Hebisch +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Broken hypertex Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -17662,8 +17662,8 @@ Take care, \start Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:40 -0700 -To: Bill Page From: William Stein +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: MAGMA question Cc: William Hart @@ -19357,8 +19357,8 @@ changes be accompanied by the documentation of unrelated topic. Date: 20 Oct 2006 17:33:05 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Still no Aldor Interface. +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke It's a make bug. I documented this on MathAction. make 3.80 works, the preinstalled make on kubuntu GNU Make 3.81beta4 doesn't. The name says it @@ -19535,8 +19535,8 @@ I will prepare a patch). \start Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:15:21 +0200 (CEST) -To: list From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Re: Misleading documentation Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -26931,11 +26931,10 @@ criticism ahead of time? >to welcome you to the SIGSAM leadership team. \start +Date: 24 Oct 2006 07:58:27 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Emil Volcheck: David Joyner to do OSCAS column] -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Oct 2006 07:58:27 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -26953,8 +26952,8 @@ not seem to have any activity, or was I unsubscribed? Date: 24 Oct 2006 10:45:20 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Price +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis I changed my mind. I ll pay 300$. Anybody else would like to add a little to that? I'm sure there would be also some money from the axiom foundation @@ -29393,9 +29392,9 @@ garbled without the trace, and I see the size difference. Will investigate and report more. \start -To: list Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:44:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Latex and axiom.sty.tex There is a problem running Latex in a directory where axiom.sty.tex @@ -30498,8 +30497,8 @@ But the mailing-list seemed to work up to now. \start Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:40:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: GIT To: Tim Daly, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: GIT --- Tim Daly wrote: @@ -36989,8 +36988,8 @@ PS: please note the update to my shell script at Mathaction - issue #144 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:15:08 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Patch for SPADEDIT +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis > Well, I just checked. A dvi generated with -src-specials does *not* > contain the absolute paths. It is only kdvi which gives a misleading diff --git a/book/2006-11.txt b/book/2006-11.txt index 8682680..92a2123 100644 --- a/book/2006-11.txt +++ b/book/2006-11.txt @@ -1715,8 +1715,8 @@ pty's). \start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -11042,10 +11042,10 @@ On 11/05/2006 12:57 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > want to gather but it still did not work. \start -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals +Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -13028,10 +13028,10 @@ specimens of machine generated Lisp to illustrate how the compiler works, but the bulk of it belongs to a special ghetto. \start -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 From: Camm Maguire To: Bill Page -Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Bill Page writes: @@ -26613,10 +26613,10 @@ I created now a new branch named wh-sandbox. ATM there only new file id README.wh, but in few days there will be more changes. \start -Subject: Re: Loading of databases +Date: 15 Nov 2006 21:01:04 +0100 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 15 Nov 2006 21:01:04 +0100 +Subject: Re: Loading of databases Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -31296,10 +31296,10 @@ Just to make sure. Yes, I would like to have it undr SVN. I have a question: Do I legally have the right to do that? \start -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:11:41 +0100 From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page -Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:11:41 +0100 +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again I forgot, @@ -34222,13 +34222,11 @@ anyway. Although I must say that I like OutputForm. Unfortunately, the compiler segfaults over my modifications currently. \start -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 23:40:21 +0100 -Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, - Waldek Hebisch +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Bill Page writes: @@ -40141,8 +40139,8 @@ various "broken" C codes, more on that latter. \start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:16:21 +0100 (CET) -To: Bill Page From: Waldek Hebisch +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Functors Cc: Frederic Lehobey @@ -40468,10 +40466,10 @@ TESTFR.input, VIEW2D.input. I suspect change to the document script, but have not verified this. \start -Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements +Date: 22 Nov 2006 15:56:00 +0100 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 22 Nov 2006 15:56:00 +0100 +Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -40651,10 +40649,10 @@ After I saw that, I decided not to remove interpsys, but to write down what the build flow should. We need that chart. \start -Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements +Date: 22 Nov 2006 16:57:39 +0100 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 22 Nov 2006 16:57:39 +0100 +Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -51465,8 +51463,8 @@ problems. \start Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:31:40 -0500 -To: list From: Andreas Kloeckner +To: list Subject: [patch] Greek letters in TeX output Hi all, @@ -56723,10 +56721,10 @@ But if you insist I may add a FORCE_-OUTPUT call to iprint (there is no reason to have extra flush function). \start -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] flush +Date: 30 Nov 2006 03:41:25 +0100 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 30 Nov 2006 03:41:25 +0100 +Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] flush Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -56768,8 +56766,8 @@ useful for some of us in the future. Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:51:25 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] flush +Cc: list sigh. @@ -58583,8 +58581,8 @@ that!". \start Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:24:50 +0100 -To: Humberto Zuazaga From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: openpty patch again Humberto Zuazaga writes: diff --git a/book/2006-12.txt b/book/2006-12.txt index 1cb20e2..1ba2afc 100644 --- a/book/2006-12.txt +++ b/book/2006-12.txt @@ -6576,10 +6576,10 @@ This was just for information and I hope it was not specific to me (if not please let me know). \start -Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux +Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:50:29 +0100 From: Gregory Vanuxem To: list -Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:50:29 +0100 +Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 23:46 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : > Hello, @@ -7521,7 +7521,6 @@ I get c = 0 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:54:04 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: William Sit -Cc: list Subject: factor bug I compared 3 versions, the original NAG version, the May 18, 2005 diff --git a/book/2007-01.txt b/book/2007-01.txt index ad0b328..3286b2d 100644 --- a/book/2007-01.txt +++ b/book/2007-01.txt @@ -7088,8 +7088,8 @@ files for them. They are all free, and available on many platforms. \start Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:03:27 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: browser front end, statement of plans and progress To: Andrey G. Grozin +Subject: Re: browser front end, statement of plans and progress > I started to do it some time ago (not recently, don't remember > exactly when). I only needed a little help. I posted some questions diff --git a/book/2007-04.txt b/book/2007-04.txt index ebd43eb..2c5fee2 100644 --- a/book/2007-04.txt +++ b/book/2007-04.txt @@ -17326,21 +17326,12 @@ to create (in exclusive mode) temporary directory (using random names to reduce denial of service attacks) and create gazonk files inside. Unfortunatly, apropriate functions are system specific. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -Subject: re: Request for wh-sandbox and - build-improvements -To: Martin Rubey Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:11:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev , - Waldek Hebisch, - Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: re: Request for wh-sandbox and build-improvements +Cc: Waldek Hebisch, Gabriel Dos Reis Martin Rubey wrote: > 2) and install *.spad.pamphlet instead of *.spad into diff --git a/book/2007-05.txt b/book/2007-05.txt index 69f234b..3e68760 100644 --- a/book/2007-05.txt +++ b/book/2007-05.txt @@ -1607,8 +1607,8 @@ way to go. \start Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 17:50:09 -0500 -To: Ralf Hemmecke From: Tim Daly +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: gclweb.lisp Ralf, @@ -2067,7 +2067,6 @@ programmers out there? Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:05:52 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp -Cc: list Subject: latex and noweb Cliff, @@ -5593,10 +5592,10 @@ go away this extend? Excellent documentation, Waldek. Thanks! \start -Subject: Re: Bootstrap documentation. +Date: 07 May 2007 19:56:38 -0500 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Date: 07 May 2007 19:56:38 -0500 +Subject: Re: Bootstrap documentation. Bill Page writes: @@ -6820,6 +6819,7 @@ ml#dt:CombinatorialSpecies Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:30:48 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] Bootstrap documentation. Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis >> So @@ -6882,8 +6882,8 @@ Look from page 82 onwards. \start Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:20:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Desired functionality from noweb To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Desired functionality from noweb --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -7321,8 +7321,8 @@ CMUCL might be workable as well. \start Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 18:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: cl-web v0.7 To: list +Subject: Re: cl-web v0.7 > I'm not sure this really deserves a release, but I may not be able to > work on this for a week so I'll go ahead and put it out there. @@ -10791,7 +10791,6 @@ no detailed knowledge of the NSF/NIST funding mandates. Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:22:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: Literate documentation On Mon, 14 May 2007, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -15028,10 +15027,10 @@ Doing Barenrdregt style typesystem with arbitrary predicates? Well, this is a research problem. \start -Subject: re: fixing SPAD +Date: 19 May 2007 20:59:29 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: 19 May 2007 20:59:29 +0200 +Subject: re: fixing SPAD Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -15380,10 +15379,9 @@ HOW? axiom-developer, and let me pull your changeset. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:26:03 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Community COMMUNITY @@ -17239,10 +17237,10 @@ On Sun, 20 May 2007, Alfredo Portes wrote: bouhahaha :-) \start -Subject: Re: mathpages +Date: 20 May 2007 20:46:50 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly -Date: 20 May 2007 20:46:50 +0200 +Subject: Re: mathpages Tim Daly writes: @@ -20335,12 +20333,9 @@ See the first call of AXIOMsys above. Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:03:06 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey +Subject: [Axiom-developer] Re: TeXmacs+Axiom Cc: Alasdair McAndrew -Subject: Re: TeXmacs+Axiom - -Hi Martin, - On 05/21/2007 11:48 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Dear all, > @@ -20652,9 +20647,8 @@ Index: src/doc/bookvol1.pamphlet Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:12:36 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Alasdair McAndrew - Subject: RE: TeXmacs+Axiom +Cc: Alasdair McAndrew On May 21, 2007 2:39 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > .. @@ -21246,8 +21240,8 @@ and restaring X, fixes the problem. \start Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:53:56 -0700 (PDT) -To: Bill Page, Waldek Hebisch From: Cliff Yapp +To: Bill Page, Waldek Hebisch Subject: RE: Lisp portability Cc: Camm Maguire, list @@ -22172,8 +22166,8 @@ revisited if we want to do more with it. \start Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:39:43 -0700 (PDT) -To: Martin Rubey From: Cliff Yapp +To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: axiom-mode --- Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -25274,8 +25268,8 @@ I'll be away for the rest of the week with the usual spotty connectivity. \start Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 04:41:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Should we update the AxiomSources page? To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Should we update the AxiomSources page? I tried, but I think the links in the cvs/svn/etc. commands are triggering the security system. No good way around that, as those @@ -25890,9 +25884,9 @@ we should simply remove them. \start Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -To: Martin Rubey, -Cc: Alasdair McAndrew +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: [ANN] new version of axiom mode for emacs. +Cc: Alasdair McAndrew --- Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -29568,8 +29562,8 @@ after all. (Please try, though!) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:54:02 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Alasdair McAndrew Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] [ANN] new version of axiom mode for emacs. +Cc: Alasdair McAndrew Unfortunately, axiom.el is not usable in XEmacs. Here is a translation of the offending key definition. The definitions given below are @@ -32888,8 +32882,8 @@ No. I have invested too much time already, sorry. \start Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs. To: Martin Rubey, Jay Belanger +Subject: Re: yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs. --- Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -34513,8 +34507,8 @@ On Sun, 27 May 2007, Tim Daly wrote: Thanks! \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:48:29 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: backslash-newline in Makefiles @@ -34657,8 +34651,8 @@ fixed. --t \start Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:45:57 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Tim Daly +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master' Gaby, @@ -37383,8 +37377,8 @@ Im not out to convert anyone. \start Date: 30 May 2007 23:32:33 -0400 -To: axiom-devel From: Stephen Wilson +To: list Subject: Gone Fishing *, diff --git a/book/2007-06.txt b/book/2007-06.txt index 91d633a..1acc184 100644 --- a/book/2007-06.txt +++ b/book/2007-06.txt @@ -2014,8 +2014,8 @@ I guess we can close the issue. Maybe we should rename it though? Date: 02 Jun 2007 10:28:33 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Alasdair McAndrew -Cc: Themos Tsikas Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] A pattern matching question +Cc: Themos Tsikas Dear Themos, Alasdair, @@ -4889,8 +4889,8 @@ it is up to date with respect to Tim's work. \start Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: merge branches/daly to trunk (was: NAG libraries) To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: merge branches/daly to trunk (was: NAG libraries) --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -6011,8 +6011,8 @@ archives. Am I wrong? \start Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: merge branches/daly to trunk (was: NAG libraries) To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page +Subject: RE: merge branches/daly to trunk (was: NAG libraries) --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -11535,8 +11535,8 @@ wrong result interpreted code should show this. \start Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:22:03 +0200 -To: Martin Rubey From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: AxiomUnit Cc: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -12170,8 +12170,8 @@ others seem to think differently... \start Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:59:32 +0200 From: Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Axiom under Windows To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: Axiom under Windows Hello Martin, @@ -17719,8 +17719,8 @@ right. i'm on it. my time is yours. \start Date: 12 Jun 2007 23:01:00 +0200 -To: Tim Daly From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Hyperdoc Tim Daly writes: @@ -17815,8 +17815,8 @@ Similarly kcnPage calls getImports. \start Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: Hyperdoc To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: Hyperdoc > Cliff, I don't know why it is better to write everything anew in > LISP. Use the tools at hand and build something that can actually @@ -20535,8 +20535,8 @@ c:\inetpub\wwwroot\. \start Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:34:43 -0400 -To: Martin Rubey From: William Sit +To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: Hyperdoc Cc: Camm Maguire @@ -27362,9 +27362,9 @@ Index: src/lisp/Makefile.pamphlet Would you like me to commit this to wh-sandbox? +\start Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:30:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -\start To: Bill Page Subject: Re: problem compiling wh-sandbox revision 571 on Windows @@ -38852,10 +38852,10 @@ It is the problem that we cannot agree on *one* SCM and that the relation between trunk and build-improvements and wh-sandbox is unclear. \start -Subject: Re: A modest proposal +Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:48:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch To: Tim Daly -Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:48:39 +0200 (CEST) +Subject: Re: A modest proposal > Oh, really? So it "just works" as in: > @@ -39019,8 +39019,8 @@ help me in figuring out what to implement as solution. Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:30:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: open source, etc. +Cc: list Tim -- @@ -40902,8 +40902,8 @@ to spend the time to make the infrastructure to make it possible first. \start Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:08:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: A modest proposal To: Stephen Wilson, Bill Page +Subject: re: A modest proposal --- Stephen Wilson wrote: diff --git a/book/2007-07.txt b/book/2007-07.txt index 43b2d91..2dfa4c8 100644 --- a/book/2007-07.txt +++ b/book/2007-07.txt @@ -4099,8 +4099,8 @@ we have consensus yet? I can work with either, new or old. \start Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:15:14 -0400 -To: Ralf Hemmecke From: Norman Ramsey +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Noweb and \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > Dear Norman, @@ -4828,8 +4828,8 @@ issue in which "just works" is very often unlikely. Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:25:59 +0200 From: Ondrej Certik To: Tim Daly -Cc: Bill Page Subject: Re: directory/truename transition +Cc: Bill Page > This has been debated extensively on this list and there are other > people here who agree with you, most notably Bill Page, which is why @@ -5693,8 +5693,8 @@ Separately, should inlining be allowed at safety 3? Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:03:56 -0400 From: Camm Maguire To: list -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Subject: gcl safety definition +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann, Greetings! 2.7 has a much faster safety mode. I'd like to get some consensus on how to define it. @@ -5726,8 +5726,8 @@ gbc time : 5.640 secs Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:09:16 -0500 From: Matt Kaufmann To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier Subject: Re: gcl inlining policy +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier Hi, Camm -- @@ -6871,8 +6871,8 @@ This is unnegotiable for me. Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:36:39 -0400 From: Raymond Toy To: Matt Kaufmann -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Camm Maguire Subject: Re: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Camm Maguire Matt Kaufmann wrote: > @@ -6891,8 +6891,8 @@ to inline every single function! :-) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:55:28 -0400 From: Raymond Toy To: Tim Daly -Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: [Maxima] gcl inlining policy +Cc: Robert Boyer, Robert Dodier, Matt Kaufmann Tim Daly wrote: >> As for space optimization I'm not sure it matters. I can't think of a @@ -7347,8 +7347,8 @@ your goals are their goals. Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:34:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch To: Tim Daly -Cc: Bill Page Subject: Re: FriCAS +Cc: Bill Page > Define contribute. As I defined contribute, which I believe is the > common open source understanding, it involves creating patches @@ -7565,8 +7565,8 @@ the interest of Axiom? Date: 07 Jul 2007 20:09:31 -0400 From: Stephen Wilson To: Tim Daly -Cc: list Subject: Re: defintrf.spad compiler bug +Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -15329,7 +15329,7 @@ Both trees are kept in sync by Tim. \start Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:26:59 -0500 From: Doug Stewart -CC: list +To: list Subject: Re: Axiom, FriCAS, forks and teeth Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -19138,8 +19138,8 @@ Further ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topos_theory \start Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:24:36 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: Unions in Spad To: Stephen Wilson +Subject: Re: Unions in Spad William Sit wrote: @@ -19338,9 +19338,8 @@ Often there is no need for `rep' and `per' as in Aldor. \start Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:24:29 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: Unions in Spad (Correction) To: Stephen Wilson, Gabriel Dos Reis, Bill Page, Waldek Hebisch - +Subject: Re: Unions in Spad (Correction) I made some erratic comments (attached below) on design flaw in Union that was based on hyperdoc documentation. Since hyperdoc does not @@ -20564,8 +20563,8 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:29:46 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: David Bindel Subject: Literate Programming +Cc: David Bindel Having reread what I wrote about David Bindel's literate tool dsbweb I want to clarify that I classified the tool as semi-literate. I was @@ -20618,27 +20617,12 @@ handled in 'compiler.boot.pamphlet': <3 (|compElt| ((|call| (XLAM |ignore| '#)) $ - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start +Date: 13 Jul 2007 19:39:01 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: 2.7 build - <87tzsabxlh.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54myy23dbs.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87bqeibpj5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 13 Jul 2007 19:39:01 -0400 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list - ---=-=-= - - -Hello, +Cc: Camm Maguire Sorry for the delay on this! @@ -22626,29 +22610,12 @@ index 7247d7a..fe3cf7a 100644 ;(define-function 'CVECP #'stringp) ---=-=-=-- - - - - \start +Date: 13 Jul 2007 19:57:30 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Unions in Spad - <46915756.7010300@hemmecke.de> <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46971AF9.4030103@hemmecke.de> - <87tzs893r2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <469741A1.5040005@hemmecke.de> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 13 Jul 2007 19:57:30 -0400 -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, - axiom-devel - - -Hi Ralf, +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Regarding `rep' and `per'. @@ -22672,21 +22639,10 @@ in Aldor is that rep and per are macros, and thus do not carry any useful semantic information and cannot be used by the compiler to perform the conversion. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:18:44 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: 2.7 build Stephen, @@ -22700,16 +22656,11 @@ files in zips. The user can then select this with I'll prototype it here in a silver branch. -Tim - - - \start -Subject: re: debugging -To: list Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:51:38 +0200 (CEST) -Action: From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list +Subject: re: debugging Cc: Camm Maguire I wrote: @@ -22823,17 +22774,10 @@ The assignment to V5 looks wrong... The file DFLOAT.o where |DFLOAT;Zero;$;15| lives was compiled in the previous step. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 13 Jul 2007 20:55:13 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: 2.7 build Tim Daly writes: @@ -22861,31 +22805,12 @@ tree. Thanks a lot for getting this into Silver! That will help the development along very nicely! -Take care, -Steve - - - - - \start +Date: 13 Jul 2007 21:48:51 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: William Sit Subject: Re: Unions in Spad (Correction) - <46915756.7010300@hemmecke.de> <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696BDAE.A8F85510@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <874pk99j07.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696FC00.5D392DBB@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <469736BD.16FFC8E2@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 13 Jul 2007 21:48:51 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel , - Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis William Sit writes: [...] @@ -23129,47 +23054,19 @@ Take care, > > The file DFLOAT.o where |DFLOAT;Zero;$;15| lives was compiled in > the previous step. -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - \start +Date: 13 Jul 2007 22:05:00 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: Re: 2.7 build - <87tzsabxlh.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54myy23dbs.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87bqeibpj5.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87lkdj98mi.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 13 Jul 2007 22:05:00 -0400 -Cc: list Stephen -- you rock! Am trying it myself now ... -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 13 Jul 2007 22:08:58 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: 2.7 build Tim Daly writes: @@ -23196,17 +23093,10 @@ Note that this is for the purpose of developing the patchset. When gcl officially goes 2.7.0 I have absolutely no issue with caching a `known good version' in the tree for end-user purposes. - -Steve - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:51:17 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: 2.7 build Stephen, @@ -23218,15 +23108,10 @@ Stephen, Ok. I'll put it in a git-branch and you can push/pull it from there. It shouldn't go into silver if it isn't intended for release. -Tim - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:31:31 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: 2.7 build Tim Daly writes: @@ -23253,9 +23138,6 @@ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:32:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Re: Gcl-2.6.8 on Intel Solaris 10 - <54y7hkvv69.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, , - gcl-devel@gnu.org On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -23264,27 +23146,11 @@ On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Camm Maguire wrote: Thanks! Axiom.build-improvements was updated. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:57:14 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: William Sit Subject: Re: Unions in Spad - <46915756.7010300@hemmecke.de> <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696BDAE.A8F85510@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <874pk99j07.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696FC00.5D392DBB@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <46971AA4.BBC78705@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:57:14 -0400 -Cc: axiom-devel William Sit writes: > In summary, we need: @@ -23330,35 +23196,12 @@ only because I think the returns are greater in the long run, compared to expanding the current implementation over the course of the next thirty years. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - - - \start Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:43:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke - <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46971AF9.4030103@hemmecke.de> - <87tzs893r2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87ps2w935x.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87sl7sr8tt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <4697489D.9080403@hemmecke.de> - - <4697689C.40507@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-devel , aldor-l Subject: Re: rep, per, Rep in SPAD/Aldor - Ralf -- Sorry for the late reply: too many things to fit in only 24 hours/day. @@ -23432,17 +23275,11 @@ is social convention. Yes, I'm for removing unnecessary restrictions. But, I do not view the fact giving rep/per would a clearer semantics as a restriction. --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 00:46:58 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Jul 2007 00:46:58 -0400 -Cc: list Greetings! Did you stop here? @@ -23477,23 +23314,11 @@ know. Thus far, I know of only Waldek's issue outstanding. emit-fn is still there and has not been changed, but has bugs. -Take care, - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 00:01:58 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54d4yvtwvx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Jul 2007 00:01:58 -0500 -Cc: list Camm Maguire writes: @@ -23505,18 +23330,11 @@ I understand your discussion was in the GCL-2.7.0 context. Is it advisable for Axiom to remove its use entirely -- even with GCL-2.6.8pre? --- Gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 01:30:07 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54d4yvtwvx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 14 Jul 2007 01:30:07 -0400 -Cc: list Camm Maguire writes: @@ -23584,26 +23402,10 @@ some time before Axiom can drop support for CLTL1 builds altogether. Thanks again Camm for all your hard work! It is completely pointless to try and measure the importance of your contributions!! -Sincerely, -Steve - - -> -> Take care, -> -> -- -> Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -> ========================================================================== -> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Stephen Wilson Date: 14 Jul 2007 02:04:49 -0400 -Cc: list +From: Stephen Wilson +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: compiler.boot issue #370 patch Tim Daly writes: @@ -23625,18 +23427,10 @@ Using gclweb to tangle the sources is just brilliant!!! I am so happy we are slowly but surly getting the pieces of the puzzle together. - -Take care, -Steve - - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:15:07 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson -Cc: list Subject: 2.7 build Stephen, @@ -23646,10 +23440,6 @@ Stephen, You'll notice that the chunk is latex syntax, not noweb syntax. I'll have the latex chunk environment soon. -Tim - - - \start Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:24:16 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke @@ -23673,16 +23463,11 @@ On 07/14/2007 08:15 AM, Tim Daly wrote: > > You'll notice that the chunk is latex syntax, not noweb syntax. > I'll have the latex chunk environment soon. -> -> Tim - - \start -To: Tim Daly -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Jul 2007 08:33:57 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: disagreement and development model Dear all, especially Tim, @@ -23704,31 +23489,11 @@ syntax. In any case it breaks mmm-mode (i.e., no syntax highlighting in emacs anymore) and ALLPROSE (which will not depend on Lisp). I hope that this is in your local branch, not in trunk/silver? - -Martin - - - - \start -To: Stephen Wilson - <46915756.7010300@hemmecke.de> <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696BDAE.A8F85510@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <874pk99j07.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <4696FC00.5D392DBB@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <469736BD.16FFC8E2@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <877ip392m4.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Jul 2007 08:41:02 +0200 -Cc: axiom-devel -Subject: Re: keyword arguments, - was: Unions in Spad (Correction) +From: Martin Rubey +To: Stephen Wilson +Subject: Re: keyword arguments, was: Unions in Spad (Correction) Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -23758,20 +23523,6 @@ Martin Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:16:45 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46971AF9.4030103@hemmecke.de> - <87tzs893r2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87ps2w935x.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87sl7sr8tt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <4697489D.9080403@hemmecke.de> - - <4697689C.40507@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: axiom-devel , aldor-l Subject: Re: rep, per, Rep in SPAD/Aldor Gaby, @@ -23808,32 +23559,12 @@ rep and per actually do nothing than changing the view on the same string of bytes in memory. But, I agree, that decision should be left to the compiler. -Ralf - - - - \start Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:41:53 +0200 -To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis From: Christian Aistleitner - <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46971AF9.4030103@hemmecke.de> - <87tzs893r2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87ps2w935x.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87sl7sr8tt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <4697489D.9080403@hemmecke.de> - - <4697689C.40507@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-devel , aldor-l +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] rep, per, Rep in SPAD/Aldor -Hello, - On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:57:16 +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wro= te: @@ -23949,31 +23680,11 @@ representation". It just tells you "This domains exports a Symbol with = name Rep, Ying, or whatever". A name is just a name. -Kind regards, -Christian - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 06:13:19 -0500 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: rep, per, Rep in SPAD/Aldor - <46915756.7010300@hemmecke.de> <87vecuh8cl.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - - <87myy33x6c.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - - - <46964339.54F23EC8@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <87ejjd9v75.fsf@lattice.localdomain> <46971AF9.4030103@hemmecke.de> - <87tzs893r2.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87ps2w935x.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <87sl7sr8tt.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <4697489D.9080403@hemmecke.de> - - <4697689C.40507@hemmecke.de> - - <4698785D.1000607@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Jul 2007 06:13:19 -0500 -Cc: axiom-devel , aldor-l Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -24018,21 +23729,11 @@ Depending on the application, yes. | But, I agree, that decision should be left to the compiler. --- gaby - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 09:16:09 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54d4yvtwvx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm1zlgs9.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Jul 2007 09:16:09 -0400 -Cc: list - -Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -24054,36 +23755,11 @@ I'm also eager if anyone has comparative performance reports on 2.6 and 2.7. Bootstraping the latter takes longer, but (I hope) all other metrics point the other way. -Take care, - -> -- Gaby -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - \start Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:32:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54d4yvtwvx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87zm1zlgs9.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <548x9jdt2e.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -24106,17 +23782,11 @@ On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Camm Maguire wrote: | does not run afoul of any of the weaknesses, AFAICT. Copy that. Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Subject: re: debugging -To: Camm Maguire Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:24:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: re: debugging Camm Maguire wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -24275,22 +23945,12 @@ If I do the above in 2.6.8 compiled interpsys I get floating point 0. In 2.7.0 compiled interpsys (the one from the failing build) I get # - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:17:50 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list Subject: noweb syntax -Ralf, - Eh? I thought we HAD already discussed this on the list. We must have discussed it since I know that Cliff's parser can handle either syntax. gclweb works for CLtL1 and cl-web will work for ansi. I've @@ -24369,16 +24029,11 @@ notangle need to be changed to calls to (tangle ...). Once that was done noweb could be removed from the system. This means that build times are shorter. It removes the dependence on noweb completely. -Tim - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 21:38:52 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: noweb syntax -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 14 Jul 2007 21:38:52 +0200 -Cc: list Tim Daly writes: @@ -24450,15 +24105,10 @@ for f in structures(pi::SetSpecies(SetSpecies L))$F(SetSpecies L) repeat { } @ -Martin - - - - \start -To: axiom-devel -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Jul 2007 22:11:09 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey +To: axiom-devel Subject: Proposal for a new development model Dear all, @@ -24587,20 +24237,11 @@ cooperation, however, we insist on the following tools: to send patches that adress a particular issue not only to axiom-developer, but also to IssueTracker. - - - \start +Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:14:14 -0400 +From: Stephen Wilson To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: 2.7 build - <87tzs77jak.fsf@lattice.localdomain> - <54d4yvtwvx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <87k5t37dsw.fsf@lattice.localdomain> -From: Stephen Wilson -Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:14:14 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Hello Camm, Stephen Wilson writes: @@ -24678,20 +24319,12 @@ Broken at LOAD1. Type :H for Help. #2 EVAL {loc0=nil,loc1=nil,loc2=nil,loc3=#} [ihs=2] >> -Thanks, -Steve - - - - - \start Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:31:48 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: daly@users.sourceforge.net +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [664] trunk/axiom Cc: axiom-dev -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [664] - trunk/axiom Ooops. @@ -24751,13 +24384,10 @@ On 07/15/2007 03:10 PM, daly@users.sourceforge.net wrote: [snip] - - \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:40:41 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Literate Programming The latest changeset introduces two related changes, gclweb and @@ -25094,8 +24724,8 @@ programming techniques. Date: 15 Jul 2007 16:35:41 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Subject: Time to say good bye to Tim. +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26168,8 +25798,8 @@ follow that kind of development in a convenient way. Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:15:52 -0400 From: William Sit To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Subject: Re: [NOT :-)] Time to say good bye to Tim. +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Dear Martin: @@ -26382,8 +26012,8 @@ commits happily undocumented and broken code. Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:21:48 -0400 From: William Sit To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Subject: Re: [NOT :-)] Time to say good bye to Tim. +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page, Dear All: @@ -28546,8 +28176,8 @@ index 6a2bc3a..11daff0 100644 \start Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:26:42 -0500 -To: Stephen Wilson From: Tim Daly +To: Stephen Wilson Subject: hyperdoc The hyperdoc error occurs occurs because ht.db is incorrect. @@ -29349,6 +28979,7 @@ What would you feel would be a rational response from Waldek? \start Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:26:45 -0500 From: Tim Daly +To: list Subject: availability I'm going off-list at 7pm EST and will be away on business until @@ -30041,8 +29672,8 @@ separately from the rest of Axiom. \start Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:36:14 -0700 (PDT) -To: Stephen Wilson From: Cliff Yapp +To: Stephen Wilson Subject: re: Pamphlets and LaTex I'll confess I'm a bit confused, but that may be my fault. Questions: diff --git a/book/2007-08.txt b/book/2007-08.txt index b72aef6..d5d249a 100644 --- a/book/2007-08.txt +++ b/book/2007-08.txt @@ -12532,8 +12532,8 @@ You want the authority but you don't live up to the responsibility. \start Date: 11 Aug 2007 19:41:20 -0500 -To: Tim Daly From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ChangeLog on Silver If you read my suggestions/amendments to Martin's proposal, you'll @@ -13719,8 +13719,8 @@ Warning: I didn't check whether this is what you want to fix your bug. \start Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:11:42 +0200 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: Juergen Weiss +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: A curious algebra failure The file patches.lisp in the scratchpad sources from 1990 contained the diff --git a/book/2007-09.txt b/book/2007-09.txt index 54c936f..d83d911 100644 --- a/book/2007-09.txt +++ b/book/2007-09.txt @@ -1058,9 +1058,9 @@ codes. I suspect that was the work of Peter Broadbery -- anyone to concur? \start Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:53:18 -0500 -To: Bill Page From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] [fricas-devel] umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: umlaut in Guess - mailing list for algebra Bill Page writes: @@ -1708,13 +1708,11 @@ Value = "Tuesday July 17, 2007 at 14:02:22 " \start Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:12:49 +0200 -To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Bill Page, Alfredo Portes Subject: APL2 is evil Cc: Bill Page -Hello, - On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:12:12 +0200, Bill Page wrote: @@ -32020,8 +32018,8 @@ or don't like and another thing is how to spend my time effectively \start Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:35:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette To: Ondrej Certik +Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette --- Ondrej Certik wrote: @@ -32309,10 +32307,9 @@ that relates to Axiom and OpenAxiom and anything I would have done at any conference. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:31 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Arthur Ralfs -Cc: list Subject: axserver.pamphlet I just got a chance to test your axserver.pamphlet. It worked like a @@ -47289,8 +47286,8 @@ Sorry for the dumb question :-), \start Date: 29 Sep 2007 15:38:48 +0200 -To: Tim Daly, Bill Page From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly, Bill Page Subject: Copyright notice Re: pfaffian.input.pamphlet Dear Tim, @@ -48012,8 +48009,8 @@ the code live beyond the original author. Otherwise, what is science for? Date: 29 Sep 2007 18:55:21 +0200 From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly -Cc: axiom-legal@nongnu.org, list Subject: Re: Copyright notice Re: pfaffian.input.pamphlet +Cc: axiom-legal@nongnu.org, list Tim Daly writes: diff --git a/book/2007-11.txt b/book/2007-11.txt index 5d47bf8..f8ab164 100644 --- a/book/2007-11.txt +++ b/book/2007-11.txt @@ -495,7 +495,6 @@ Constantine Frangos wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:07:09 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list Subject: Re: Axiom Wiki and Portal are moving Martin, @@ -847,8 +846,8 @@ and William Stein has been kind enough to host your effort. Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:37:33 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch To: list -Cc: William Stein Subject: Re: Axiom Wiki and Portal are moving +Cc: William Stein Bill Page wrote: > @@ -1983,8 +1982,8 @@ in mathml. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:32:03 -0800 From: William Stein To: Tim Daly -Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner On Nov 18, 2007 12:59 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > David Joyner and William Stein published an opinion piece in the @@ -2136,8 +2135,8 @@ in February, which they are funding. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:49:16 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: William Stein -Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner William, @@ -2185,8 +2184,8 @@ Axiom has groups of such tests in its regression test suite already. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:51:08 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Paul Zimmermann -Cc: William Stein, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: William Stein, David Joyner >> Third, even if the NSF funded SAGE, how would those funds benefit the >> various subprojects like Axiom? @@ -2206,8 +2205,8 @@ symbolic summation code? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:53:20 -0800 From: William Stein To: Tim Daly -Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: Paul Zimmermann, David Joyner On Nov 18, 2007 3:49 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > One possible other source for funding is NIST (although the year that @@ -2259,8 +2258,8 @@ the CDI initiative at NSF. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:24:57 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: William Stein -Cc: Paul Zimmermann,, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: Paul Zimmermann,, David Joyner William, @@ -2461,8 +2460,8 @@ The upload is rather slow so give it an hour or so (It is now 2am EST). Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:24:35 +0100 From: Paul Zimmermann To: Tim Daly -Cc: William Stein, David Joyner Subject: Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software +Cc: William Stein, David Joyner Dear Tim, @@ -4604,6 +4603,7 @@ Choose a winning strategy. Follow it. \start Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:12:49 -0800 From: Arthur Ralfs +To: list Subject: re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software Ed Borasky wrote: @@ -5827,7 +5827,6 @@ other stuff :-). OpenAxiom's web files are in the repository. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:50:55 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list Subject: Re: Link to new wiki On 27 Nov 2007 20:26:50 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -6240,8 +6239,8 @@ Tout le monde devrait parler fran=E7ais, n'est-ce pas ? ;-) \start Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:13 +0100 From: Michel Lavaud -Subject: re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Michel Lavaud wrote: @@ -6279,8 +6278,8 @@ Yes, please. Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:08:48 -0500 From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Re: members / parts of binarytrees +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On 11/28/07, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > diff --git a/book/2007-12.txt b/book/2007-12.txt index 92b3a49..8ca87c1 100644 --- a/book/2007-12.txt +++ b/book/2007-12.txt @@ -333,8 +333,8 @@ ry Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:51:34 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Alexei Sheplyakov Subject: Re: Bug#407109: axiom: loops forever while )read'ing expression +Cc: Alexei Sheplyakov I get a "missing mate" error on the input. @@ -669,8 +669,8 @@ The following should fix this: Date: 05 Dec 2007 09:17:35 -0500 From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly -Cc: Alexei Sheplyakov Subject: Re: Bug#407109: axiom: loops forever while )read'ing expression +Cc: Alexei Sheplyakov Greetings, and thanks Tim! Does this mean that there is an issue with the original "missing mate" error on the unbroken expression? diff --git a/book/2008-01.txt b/book/2008-01.txt index a9cf90f..5677101 100644 --- a/book/2008-01.txt +++ b/book/2008-01.txt @@ -22924,8 +22924,8 @@ We need to make the code live longer than the developers. \start Date: 21 Jan 2008 18:47:23 +0100 -To: Tim Daly From: Martin Rubey +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Nice Fixes! Another go on IssueTracker Tim Daly writes: diff --git a/book/2008-04.txt b/book/2008-04.txt index 09365c9..a872778 100644 --- a/book/2008-04.txt +++ b/book/2008-04.txt @@ -2595,8 +2595,8 @@ You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:08:54 -0500 From: Joseph North To: Tim Daly -Cc: Mike McCants, Theodore Morris, Steve Wozniak, Lance Lee, Robert Folk, David Dunham, Som Naimpally, Steven Bauer, William Beebee Subject: Re: Axiom Mar 2008 fedora8-64 src Problem (R. 1)! +Cc: Mike McCants, Theodore Morris, Steve Wozniak, Lance Lee, Robert Folk, David Dunham, Som Naimpally, Steven Bauer, William Beebee On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Tim Daly wrote: > Joseph, diff --git a/book/2008-06.txt b/book/2008-06.txt index 835c361..d8096d6 100644 --- a/book/2008-06.txt +++ b/book/2008-06.txt @@ -29871,8 +29871,8 @@ Subject: Re: axiom bookvols Can you give me your full name so I can include you in the credits? \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:09:05 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20080619.01.tpd.patch (add Anatoly Raportirenko) diff --git a/book/2008-07.txt b/book/2008-07.txt index d6fc23a..7efc1d0 100644 --- a/book/2008-07.txt +++ b/book/2008-07.txt @@ -5412,8 +5412,8 @@ The introductory headline reads: \start Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:01:37 -0700 From: Ed Borasky -Subject: Re: Reproducible Research Repository To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Reproducible Research Repository On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 00:57 -0500, Tim Daly wrote: > The Ecole Polytechnique Federale De Lausanne has introduced diff --git a/book/2008-09.txt b/book/2008-09.txt index 3982d51..2d2967f 100644 --- a/book/2008-09.txt +++ b/book/2008-09.txt @@ -8932,10 +8932,9 @@ Tim \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:29:20 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Of possible interest to Axiom Stephen, @@ -8949,12 +8948,10 @@ Tim \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:40:05 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: -Subject: 20080917.01.tpd.patch (bookvol10.2 remove dup - function defn in FLAGG) +Subject: 20080917.01.tpd.patch (bookvol10.2 remove dup function defn in FLAGG) reverse occurs twice in the implementation of FiniteLinearAggregate. One copy is removed. @@ -9206,17 +9203,11 @@ generate information but I haven't had time to code them yet. The literate documentation is getting more interesting. -Tim - - - - \start Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:49:09 -0400 From: Doug Stewart -CC: list +To: list Subject: Re: Of possible interest to Axiom - <200809180621.m8I6Lu101615@localhost.localdomain> root wrote: >>> The latest documentation work is creating a full graph of the Axiom @@ -9299,12 +9290,7 @@ Doug Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:55:01 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Doug Stewart - Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:49:09 -0400) Subject: Re: Of possible interest to Axiom - <200809180621.m8I6Lu101615@localhost.localdomain> - <48D23225.7080709@sympatico.ca> - recognized. -Cc: list >>>> The latest documentation work is creating a full graph of the Axiom >>>> algebra as part of the bookvol10* buildout. This could be useful in @@ -9380,9 +9366,6 @@ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:35:00 -0400 From: Doug Stewart To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Of possible interest to Axiom - <48D23225.7080709@sympatico.ca> - <200809181155.m8IBt1O02002@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list root wrote: >>>>> The latest documentation work is creating a full graph of the Axiom @@ -23569,8 +23552,8 @@ Besides, it is clearly a useful "citation" if your code is already running on the tenure committee's laptops :-) \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:36:56 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20080925.01.tpd.patch (bookvol10.2 new categories added) @@ -23603,8 +23586,8 @@ The categories from naalgc.spad are now part of bookvol10.2 See \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:51:23 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20090928.01.tpd.patch (bookvol10.2 add categories, absorb trigcat) diff --git a/book/2008-11.txt b/book/2008-11.txt index 09431b2..88ddee7 100644 --- a/book/2008-11.txt +++ b/book/2008-11.txt @@ -10873,8 +10873,8 @@ of the system. Comparing these results with other subsystems of Sage would provide a valuable cross-check. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:53:04 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20081129.01.tpd.patch (index.html - fix broken link) diff --git a/book/2008-12.txt b/book/2008-12.txt index fd54573..62a5ec6 100644 --- a/book/2008-12.txt +++ b/book/2008-12.txt @@ -133,8 +133,8 @@ Subject: Re: [patch] Suggested grammatical improvement for bookvol7.1.pamphlet Thanks. I'll apply it at the next update. -- Tim \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:57:20 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20081201.03.tpd.patch (bookvol10.3 add domains) @@ -626,8 +626,8 @@ On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:33:04 -0500 \start Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:54:10 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) To: list +Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) This email is not Axiom related, but Doyen OS related. Maybe it is because I do not know how Doyen functions, but @@ -853,8 +853,8 @@ This patch is too large to post. See \start Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:45:08 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) Thanks for the quick suggestion. I'll try that this weekend when I have more time. @@ -1254,8 +1254,8 @@ index 4073795..f395d21 100644 \start Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:04:15 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) To: Alfredo Portes,Tim Daly +Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) Dear Tim and Alfredo: @@ -8762,8 +8762,8 @@ index 6c5e67c..fdc11a2 100644 \start Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:28:28 -0500 -To: Alfredo Portes, Tim Daly From: William Sit +To: Alfredo Portes, Tim Daly Subject: Re: 20081202.02.tpd.patch (website download.html add Doyen Thumbdrive) Dear Tim and Alfredo: diff --git a/book/2009-03.txt b/book/2009-03.txt index 255e3a1..8571874 100644 --- a/book/2009-03.txt +++ b/book/2009-03.txt @@ -22512,6 +22512,7 @@ Axiom has OpenMath code. Can I expect that to work? \start Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:59:20 -0600 From: Tim Daly +To: list Subject: 20090316.01.tpd.patch (bookvol5 add )expose, )set break resume) The )expose code roots were moved to bookvol5. @@ -22525,6 +22526,7 @@ http://axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/patches.html#latest \start Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:44:39 -0600 From: Tim Daly +To: list Subject: 20090316.02.tpd.patch (sockio.lisp restore sock-send-int) sock-send-int is used in a macro in the algebra diff --git a/book/2009-04.txt b/book/2009-04.txt index 171185a..8c7d3aa 100644 --- a/book/2009-04.txt +++ b/book/2009-04.txt @@ -5120,8 +5120,8 @@ index 577d012..cb5d56f 100644 (setq |$Newline| #\Newline) \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:09:48 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: check algebra in lisp @@ -5287,8 +5287,8 @@ It does not require perl, awk, sed, and other tools. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:34:52 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: 20090407.01.tpd.patch (src/doc remove unused files) @@ -5661,8 +5661,8 @@ All of these changes are end-user visible, and only on Axiom. I think the end user can see these differences directly. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:17:51 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Stephen Wilson, Igor Pashev Subject: 20090409.01.tpd.patch (src/algebra/Makefile egrep -> grep -E) @@ -5874,9 +5874,9 @@ resolved? \start Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:22:29 -0500 -Subject: re: OpenAxiom-1.2.1 released From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: OpenAxiom-1.2.1 released On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Tim Daly wrote: >> As I understand it, you could easily prevent forking by pushing Axiom to @@ -7473,9 +7473,9 @@ Did either of you test it? How? On what system does it work? \start Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:18:37 -0500 -Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Building Axiom on Slackware] From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Building Axiom on Slackware] Cc: Stephen Wilson On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Tim Daly wrote: @@ -10347,9 +10347,9 @@ index b6869fc..0e3f6ef 100644 \start +Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:50:54 +0200 From: Michael Becker To: list -Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:50:54 +0200 Subject: axiom-mar2009 release : draw problem diff --git a/book/2009-06.txt b/book/2009-06.txt index b86df3b..6a0be12 100644 --- a/book/2009-06.txt +++ b/book/2009-06.txt @@ -40,8 +40,8 @@ http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:13:37 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: InputForm +Cc: Martin Rubey Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Tim Daly writes: @@ -749,8 +749,8 @@ reserve InputForm for only this use. Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:48:15 -0500 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page -Cc: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: InputForm +Cc: Martin Rubey Bill Page writes: @@ -863,8 +863,8 @@ just being specialized for algebraic computations only. Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:15:22 -0400 From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: InputForm +Cc: Martin Rubey On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -1897,7 +1897,6 @@ Tim Daly Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Daly To: Titus Piezas -Cc: list Subject: Re: A Collection of Algebraic Identities On Jun 4, 12:35=A0pm, tpie...@gmail.com wrote: @@ -2210,8 +2209,8 @@ Arnold Doray wrote: \start Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:08:24 -0400 From: Bill Page -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Problem with real/imag/conjugate To: list +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Problem with real/imag/conjugate Cc: Arnold Doray Tim, diff --git a/book/2009-07.txt b/book/2009-07.txt index 1864d40..c3f51d7 100644 --- a/book/2009-07.txt +++ b/book/2009-07.txt @@ -1902,8 +1902,8 @@ On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:43:22 +0200 \start Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:23:22 -0400 -To: Michael Becker, From: William Sit +To: Michael Becker Subject: Re: composition of functions not supported in axiom ??? Dear Michael: diff --git a/book/2009-08.txt b/book/2009-08.txt index f7262b9..ca14a3e 100644 --- a/book/2009-08.txt +++ b/book/2009-08.txt @@ -2237,8 +2237,8 @@ NEM+XQo+PgpzdGFydHhyZWYKNjczNTQKJSVFT0YK Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:04:28 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com -Cc: Nicolas Thiery Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: Categories restart: call for reviewers +Cc: Nicolas Thiery Nicolas diff --git a/book/2009-11.txt b/book/2009-11.txt index 2f6d9af..2e0eddc 100644 --- a/book/2009-11.txt +++ b/book/2009-11.txt @@ -2693,8 +2693,8 @@ William Sit wrote: \start Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:09:38 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis From: William Sit +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: pointers Thanks again for all the help. I'll download the OpenAxiom @@ -3773,9 +3773,9 @@ I'm trying to install your code in Axiom. Do I have your permission to use text from your webpage as documentation? \start +Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:35:17 +0000 From: Martin Baker To: Tim Daly -Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:35:17 +0000 Subject: Re: grassman.spad On Wednesday 18 November 2009 18:13:04 Tim Daly wrote: @@ -4604,7 +4604,6 @@ wherever possible and explicit coding of algorithms be discouraged? Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:58:54 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Martin Baker -Cc: list Subject: Embedding Axiom (Hickey and fold/unfold) and rule based programming Martin Baker wrote: @@ -4820,9 +4819,9 @@ directions. Multiple instances give a way to generalize by comparing the instances to their fit in the generalized pattern. \start +Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:44 +0000 From: Martin Baker To: Tim Daly -Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Embedding Axiom (Hickey and fold/unfold) Folding and generalization Tim, diff --git a/book/2009-12.txt b/book/2009-12.txt index 59ea588..04168d9 100644 --- a/book/2009-12.txt +++ b/book/2009-12.txt @@ -2,8 +2,8 @@ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:45:47 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: Mike Dewar, Stephen Watt Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] License for FriCAS-Aldor interface files +Cc: Mike Dewar, Stephen Watt Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Dear Mike, dear Stephen, diff --git a/book/2010-01.txt b/book/2010-01.txt index 6131af6..64f3351 100644 --- a/book/2010-01.txt +++ b/book/2010-01.txt @@ -3324,7 +3324,7 @@ Camm Maguire wrote: \start Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:37:16 -0500 From: Tim Daly -CC: list +To: list Subject: Axiom January 2010 binaries are available The binaries are available at: diff --git a/book/2010-07.txt b/book/2010-07.txt index a810a0f..8fe8532 100644 --- a/book/2010-07.txt +++ b/book/2010-07.txt @@ -672,7 +672,6 @@ nce=A0 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:01:21 +0200 From: Guillaume Yziquel To: list - 4) Subject: Embedding Axiom as an OCaml library. Hello. @@ -1311,8 +1310,8 @@ BTW, 20100701 being uploaded into Debian this evening. \start Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:58:58 +0200 -To: list From: Peter Thomas-Stutte +To: list Subject: axiom graph Dear Sirs, diff --git a/book/2010-08.txt b/book/2010-08.txt index 6717ba5..fd93ad2 100644 --- a/book/2010-08.txt +++ b/book/2010-08.txt @@ -865,8 +865,8 @@ For more information, see http://www.international-lisp-conference.org \start Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:17:00 -0400 -To: list From: Eugene Surowitz +To: list Subject: Re: LiSP in Small Pieces I just got a copy of "LiSP in Small Pieces". diff --git a/book/2010-10.txt b/book/2010-10.txt index e80e299..5971124 100644 --- a/book/2010-10.txt +++ b/book/2010-10.txt @@ -238,8 +238,8 @@ list if you think others want to join in, or individually. Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:24:08 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: J Moore, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: ACL2 and Axiom +Cc: J Moore, Matt Kaufmann On 10/2/2010 9:47 AM, Matt Kaufmann wrote: > Hi, Tim -- @@ -469,8 +469,8 @@ For additional information, please send email to dk-info@dbai.tuwien.ac.at. \start -From: Rob Nendorf Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:21:00 -0500 +From: Rob Nendorf To: list Subject: WEIER @@ -482,8 +482,8 @@ the package. I would appreciate any help you can offer. Please respond at a beginner level. \start -From: Robert Smith Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:45:51 -0500 +From: Robert Smith To: list Subject: Infinite loop in regression test diff --git a/book/2011-05.txt b/book/2011-05.txt index 0b55b16..6daeeb1 100644 --- a/book/2011-05.txt +++ b/book/2011-05.txt @@ -44,8 +44,8 @@ On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 10:53 -0600, Dan Mahoney wrote: Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:39:55 -0400 From: Tim Daly To: Dan Mahoney -Cc: Marian Anghel Subject: Re: Attempting to make axiom on MacOsx 10.6 with Case-Insensitve FIleSystem +Cc: Marian Anghel When Axiom starts it lists a version number which is a (month year) form. What version are you using? diff --git a/book/2011-08.txt b/book/2011-08.txt index e25a1dc..258c4da 100644 --- a/book/2011-08.txt +++ b/book/2011-08.txt @@ -32,7 +32,6 @@ Hello! How was axiom's bookvol10.2.pamphlet file generated? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:25:39 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Grigory Sarnitskiy -Cc: list Subject: How was axiom's bookvol10.2.pamphlet file generated? The pamphlet file was hand generated. Pamphlet files are the source diff --git a/book/2011-12.txt b/book/2011-12.txt index 8814425..0ae27a5 100644 --- a/book/2011-12.txt +++ b/book/2011-12.txt @@ -431,7 +431,6 @@ which is where you lost me. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:37:07 -0600 From: Tim Daly To: Adam Getchell -Cc: list, clojure@googlegroups.com Subject: Literate Programming Good Sir and Fellow Traveler, @@ -503,11 +502,11 @@ Sir Tim Daly, Elder of the Internet 1974 ISBN 0-553-27747-2 \start +Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 02:36:09 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Jay Edwards -Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 02:36:09 -0500 -Cc: Nick Church Subject: Re: Literate Programming +Cc: Nick Church On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 12:56 -0600, Jay Edwards wrote: > Like this? http://brighterplanet.github.com/flight/impact_model.html diff --git a/book/2012-01.txt b/book/2012-01.txt index ff4509b..9fb4bc7 100644 --- a/book/2012-01.txt +++ b/book/2012-01.txt @@ -1022,8 +1022,7 @@ Systems & Projects track Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:30:30 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list -Subject: CICM 2012 - Conference on Intelligent Computer - Mathematics +Subject: CICM 2012 - Conference on Intelligent Computer Mathematics CICM 2012 - Conference on Intelligent Computer Mathematics July 9-13, 2012 at Jacobs University, Bremen, Germany diff --git a/book/2012-06.txt b/book/2012-06.txt index c8e8791..60ec50d 100644 --- a/book/2012-06.txt +++ b/book/2012-06.txt @@ -278,8 +278,8 @@ Tim Daly writes: \start Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:44:29 +0200 (CEST) -To: Grigory Sarnitskiy From: Waldek Hebisch +To: Grigory Sarnitskiy Subject: Re: axiom-wiki: PanAxiom or separate project > I just wanted to know if there is really no parametric polymorphism in Spad. diff --git a/book/2012-07.txt b/book/2012-07.txt index 7837a31..3a3b0f2 100644 --- a/book/2012-07.txt +++ b/book/2012-07.txt @@ -373,9 +373,9 @@ unused-but-set-variable" > make: *** [all] Error 2 \start +Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:41:48 +0200 From: Renaud Rioboo To: list -Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:41:48 +0200 Subject: installing Axiom on Fedora 16 Dear Axiom Gurus, diff --git a/book/2013-08.txt b/book/2013-08.txt index 8f161c9..3a52295 100644 --- a/book/2013-08.txt +++ b/book/2013-08.txt @@ -280,8 +280,8 @@ would-be gcl contributors. Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 05:37:22 -0700 From: Henry Baker To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Donald Winiecki, Gabriel Dos Reis, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: [Maxima] GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: Donald Winiecki, Gabriel Dos Reis, Matt Kaufmann Thanks very much to you & the GCL team! diff --git a/book/2013-09.txt b/book/2013-09.txt index 35bebd2..96c3403 100644 --- a/book/2013-09.txt +++ b/book/2013-09.txt @@ -75,8 +75,8 @@ Just downloaded axiom and installed succesfully. But how do I start it? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:22:14 -0500 From: Matt Kaufmann To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Donald Winiecki Subject: Re: GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: Donald Winiecki Hi, Camm -- @@ -619,8 +619,8 @@ Matt Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:47:19 -0600 From: Donald Winiecki To: Matt Kaufmann -Cc: John Lapeyre Subject: Re: [Maxima] GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: John Lapeyre We'll wait on Camm for a definitive response to your question. @@ -647,8 +647,8 @@ On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Matt Kaufmann wrote: Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:44:30 +0200 From: John Lapeyre To: Matt Kaufmann -Cc: Donald Winieck Subject: Re: [Maxima] GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: Donald Winieck On 09/04/2013 11:37 PM, Matt Kaufmann wrote: > Thank you, Don. If there's a complete list of platforms for which @@ -808,8 +808,8 @@ was wrong with make. Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 10:42:28 -0400 From: Camm Maguire To: Henry Baker -Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann Greetings! And thanks for your feedback! @@ -826,8 +826,8 @@ Not yet. Is this important? Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 10:54:45 -0400 From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly -Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Call for Windows Vista/7 MINGW remote vnc access +Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann Hi Tim! Please excuse the large cc list, but this has come up elsewhere. @@ -901,8 +901,8 @@ sporadic access by request to a few of the linux debian-ports targets Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 08:50:29 -0700 From: Henry Baker To: Camm Maguire -Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] GCL 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 are released +Cc: Donald Winiecki, Matt Kaufmann UTF8 isn't 'critical', but not having it means that interfacing with file systems & documents that utilize UTF8 is quite difficult. diff --git a/book/2013-10.txt b/book/2013-10.txt index 8e314a4..8c9e30a 100644 --- a/book/2013-10.txt +++ b/book/2013-10.txt @@ -262,8 +262,8 @@ int/input/unittest1.regress:regression result FAILED 1 of 96 stanzas file unittest1 \start -From: Boris Tschirschwitz Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 00:32:36 +0100 +From: Boris Tschirschwitz To: list Subject: Regression tests @@ -534,6 +534,7 @@ of course must do). \start Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:39:24 +0100 (CET) From: Fabio Stumbo +To: list Subject: Editing command lines in terminal If I recall a previous command line via the up arrow and then I edit it, diff --git a/book/2013-11.txt b/book/2013-11.txt index 9dce49b..3a4892d 100644 --- a/book/2013-11.txt +++ b/book/2013-11.txt @@ -623,8 +623,6 @@ Ralf Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:55:59 +0100 (CET) From: Fabio Stumbo To: list -cc: list - (bad octet value). Subject: Re: Vim syntax file > fgrep abbrev bookvol10.2.pamphlet @@ -817,9 +815,9 @@ I just submitted: producing it in a literate way I don't think I could add more. \start +Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:29:46 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Fabio Stumbo -Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:29:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Vim syntax file Fabio, @@ -1051,8 +1049,8 @@ generated identifiers (https://github.com/hemmecke/vim-panaxiom/blob/master/axiom/keywords.sh). \start -From: Johannes Grabmeier Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:35:06 +0100 +From: Johannes Grabmeier To: list Subject: Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Vim syntax file @@ -1444,9 +1442,9 @@ or wait a few more days. The code is mostly copied from ESS, lots of details need to implement. \start +Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:20:12 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Jia Zhao Cong -Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:20:12 -0500 Subject: Re: bug in books/tangle.lisp books/tangle.lisp has some support code for automating axiom-specific @@ -1621,8 +1619,8 @@ So is this your main motivation, to evaluate fragments of files interactively? If so, looks useful! \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:28:26 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: Latex and html5 diff --git a/book/2014-05.txt b/book/2014-05.txt index 8edb9c4..88327ae 100644 --- a/book/2014-05.txt +++ b/book/2014-05.txt @@ -386,8 +386,8 @@ important, notation and just about everything else does change. Perhaps about not freezing the program in time. \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:10:39 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Baker Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] Must hear.... @@ -766,7 +766,7 @@ Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 07:45:59 -0700 From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Helmut Jarausch Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] open-axiom-1.4.2 cannot be built with sbcl-1.1.18 -> + > I have built Fricas and Maxima successfully with SBCL. > > What is so special about Open-Axiom? @@ -2437,8 +2437,8 @@ high-order and strong typing. But I am not familiar with PVS either. [1] PVS http://pvs.csl.sri.com/ \start -From: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:30:12 -0500 +From: Tim Daly To: Jia Zhao Cong Subject: [Axiom-developer] PVS diff --git a/book/timeline b/book/timeline new file mode 100644 index 0000000..5b723c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/book/timeline @@ -0,0 +1,947 @@ + +October 2002 15 15 +14 Arthur Norman (2007-06) +15 Norman Ramsey (2007-07) +23 Camm Maguire , (2013-11) + , + , + , + , + +25 Robert Morelli (2002-11) +26 Philippe Toffin (2002-11) +31 Bill Page , (2014-04) + , + , + , + , + , + , + , + , + + +November 2002 153 168 +01 Nikolay Vassiliev (2002-11) + Nicolas M. Thiery , (2008-11) + + Dylan Thurston (2009-08) + Barry Trager (2005-11) + Carlo Traverso (2002-11) + Theodore Thomas Tsikas (2007-09) + Gioia M. Vago (2002-11) + Joris van der Hoeven (2006-10) + Leonid Vaserstein (2002-11) +07 Andrey G. 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